Che was a good guy, really.


Locutus
#1

Rallying the kids


The Toronto District School Board's website extols the virtues of communist thug Che Guevara, on a dedicated webpage replete with a adoring painted portrait of the murderer of innocent civilians.
"With Che’s vision and the hard work of many people, today Cuba enjoys a literacy rate of over 99.8%…."
Hey, what is the public school system for, if not communist agitprop?
Humberto Fontova of Babalú Blog discusses the use of "Che" for leftist indoctrination in an interview with Sun News's Ezra Levant.

from: small dead animals: Rallying the kids
 
MapleDog
Free Thinker
#2
Wouldn't someone who can read be a threat for communism?
 
WLDB
No Party Affiliation
+2
#3
He was an interesting character. I doubt he'd like what has happened to his image over the years.
 
SLM
No Party Affiliation
#4
I wouldn't worry too much about it, kids don't know who he is anyway.

They all think his name is "Who's this guy?"
 
Colpy
Conservative
+3 / -2
#5
Quote: Originally Posted by WLDB View Post

He was an interesting character. I doubt he'd like what has happened to his image over the years.

Exactly.

The school board should be absolutely ashamed for holding him up as a hero........he was the absolute enemy of western civilization, western freedom, and capitalism. He was a devout follower of the Marxist cult, and he fought to spread it, and he was a cold-blooded killer.

At the same time, the accusations of mass murder are completely off-base. They are simply unfounded. And yes, he was a medical doctor, and a fascinating character............a true believer, that honestly thought he was on the right side, and that lived his belief.

And was all the more dangerous for all that.

His death in Bolivia was inevitable, and necessary.

No need to smear him.
 
WLDB
No Party Affiliation
+3
#6
Though I must confess that I bought a Che Guevara wallet just for irony's sake.
 
Colpy
Conservative
+4
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by SLM View Post

I wouldn't worry too much about it, kids don't know who he is anyway.

They all think his name is "Who's this guy?"


I've said this before, but I actually heard (from my son) of a kid wearing the t-shirt that thought he was the lead singer of Rage Against the Machine.

Quote: Originally Posted by WLDB View Post

Though I must confess that I bought a Che Guevara wallet just for irony's sake.

My father tore his poster off my wall when I was 16 or 17................and he was right.

Oh, and I knew who Che was.
 
CDNBear
#8
Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

I've said this before, but I actually heard (from my son) of a kid wearing the t-shirt that thought he was the lead singer of Rage Against the Machine.

 
SLM
No Party Affiliation
#9
Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

I've said this before, but I actually heard (from my son) of a kid wearing the t-shirt that thought he was the lead singer of Rage Against the Machine.

Just goes to show what clever marketing can do, right?
 
Redmonton_Rebel
+3 / -1
#10
Quote: Originally Posted by Locutus View Post

Rallying the kids

The Toronto District School Board's website extols the virtues of communist thug Che Guevara, on a dedicated webpage replete with a adoring painted portrait of the murderer of innocent civilians.

"With Che’s vision and the hard work of many people, today Cuba enjoys a literacy rate of over 99.8%…."
Hey, what is the public school system for, if not communist agitprop?
Humberto Fontova of Babalú Blog discusses the use of "Che" for leftist indoctrination in an interview with Sun News's Ezra Levant.

from: small dead animals: Rallying the kids

Yah what a thug, when he killed civilians he was a terrorist, when American backed assassins did it they were freedom fighters.

School of Americas

Contras - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1973 Chilean coup d'état - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Forced disappearance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Che was on the "wrong" side in a truly brutal conflict that still goes on in one way or another today.
 
Colpy
Conservative
+3
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by Redmonton_Rebel View Post

Yah what a thug, when he killed civilians he was a terrorist, when American backed assassins did it they were freedom fighters.

School of Americas

Contras - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1973 Chilean coup d'état - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Forced disappearance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Che was on the "wrong" side in a truly brutal conflict that still goes on in one way or another today.

Ahh...I don't expect a leftist to realize this.....but Marxism lost. It is pretty well non-existent in the world, even Castro publically stated it was wrong for Cuba.

Che was on the wrong side.

But the fight against Marxism is over.

How are Chile and Nicaruagua now??
 
damngrumpy
No Party Affiliation
+6
#12  Top Rated Post
Che was a reformer, a Dentist and a leader who led Cuba out of the grip of
the Mob who owned the casino's and used young girls as prostitutes. The
people could not read and write, they lived in poverty, while rich land owners
a class unto themselves who lorded it over everyone beneath them.
The revolution did not start out to be a Communist one in the beginning.
Castro came to America and Kennedy refused to meet with his representatives.
The Russians were only too happy to lend a hand.
Cuba has a good health system, a good school system and people although not
well off at all, are still better off than before the Revolution.
Lets see, western governments backed the leaders who were affiliated with the
Mob and the wealthy land barons at the expense of everyone else, so who were
the thugs again?
Che was not a very nice man I agree but the real criminal was Batista who they
overthrew. Let us not forget about the unmarked graves Batista and his government
left behind either. I am not a fan of Communism but I also know there is a lot more
to the conflict than they were bad and we were good, things don't work that way.
 
Redmonton_Rebel
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

Ahh...I don't expect a leftist to realize this.....but Marxism lost. It is pretty well non-existent in the world, even Castro publically stated it was wrong for Cuba.

Che was on the wrong side.

But the fight against Marxism is over.

How are Chile and Nicaruagua now??

isms are a waste of time...except maybe for pragmatism.
 
petros
#14
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
+5 / -1
#15
Che lives. Marxism never lost. It was co-opted by capitalist thugs and called communism. Che is still held in high regard in some circles in spite of Western BS propaganda.

Che-Lives.com - Che Guevara Lives

Eat that Capitalist thugs!
 
Walter
-2
#16
One of the best things ever to come out of Bolivia is the body of che. I won't put a capital on his name.
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

Che lives. Marxism never lost. It was co-opted by capitalist thugs and called communism. Che is still held in high regard in some circles in spite of Western BS propaganda.

Che-Lives.com - Che Guevara Lives

Eat that Capitalist thugs!

Oh Wally, you capitalist thug you! May Che's ghost haunt you for all time.
 
Locutus
+1
#18
Quote: Originally Posted by MapleDog View Post

Wouldn't someone who can read be a threat for communism?

Well, at least for the Toronto District School Board.
 
Colpy
Conservative
+2
#19
Quote: Originally Posted by damngrumpy View Post

Che was a reformer, a Dentist and a leader who led Cuba out of the grip of
the Mob who owned the casino's and used young girls as prostitutes. The
people could not read and write, they lived in poverty, while rich land owners
a class unto themselves who lorded it over everyone beneath them.
The revolution did not start out to be a Communist one in the beginning.
Castro came to America and Kennedy refused to meet with his representatives.
The Russians were only too happy to lend a hand.
Cuba has a good health system, a good school system and people although not
well off at all, are still better off than before the Revolution.
Lets see, western governments backed the leaders who were affiliated with the
Mob and the wealthy land barons at the expense of everyone else, so who were
the thugs again?
Che was not a very nice man I agree but the real criminal was Batista who they
overthrew. Let us not forget about the unmarked graves Batista and his government
left behind either. I am not a fan of Communism but I also know there is a lot more
to the conflict than they were bad and we were good, things don't work that way.

Che was a commited communist well before the Cuban Revolution.
So was Raul Castro, who committed some of the mass murders Che has been held responsible for......
Only Fidel played his cards close to his chest.......

Che was not a dentist, he was an MD.

Batista was slime.

There is lots of blame to go around......but there is absolutely NO excuse for a Canadian school board to be presenting Che as a hero.
 
EagleSmack
+2
#20
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

Che lives. Marxism never lost. It was co-opted by capitalist thugs and called communism. Che is still held in high regard in some circles in spite of Western BS propaganda.

Che-Lives.com - Che Guevara Lives

Eat that Capitalist thugs!

It is because of Western BS propaganda that he actually is held in high regard in hippy lefty cafes and sit ins.
 
damngrumpy
No Party Affiliation
+4
#21
Colpy I do stand corrected, I was actually making a dentist appointment when I
made that statement, a slip he was an MD.
He actually warned the military and others not to be in Havana when he arrived
or he would execute all those above the rank of Sgt. Not that that was a wise
decision but he did warn them. He was a Commie but at first Fidel was not
necessarily so. His brother was though.
Cuba will be Communist for a long time to come. Those thugs in Florida are in a
good place, They were among the ruling class that kept the peasants in poverty
and no wonder they fled they would have to earn their keep.
Like I said I don't like the communist system but Che and Castro did improve the
lives of ordinary people from what they were. The reason Che was sent to South
America by Castro was to make sure he did not turn on Fidel.
Che will live in the shadow of histories myth forever. Some is truth and some is
fiction to be sure. When referring to mass murder Batista was far worse than
Castro and Che ever were.
Oh and in addition to not liking communism, I think the capitalist system is a failure
as well. There are a lot of thugs on both sides of the fence.
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
+4
#22
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

It is because of Western BS propaganda that he actually is held in high regard in hippy lefty cafes and sit ins.

Turns out that most heroes of both left and right were a bunch of douche bags.

Custer had it coming!
 
Colpy
Conservative
+1
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

Turns out that most heroes of both left and right were a bunch of douche bags.

Custer had it coming!

You are completely correct there!

An egotistical, murderous moron.........
 
EagleSmack
+2
#24
Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

You are completely correct there!

An egotistical, murderous moron.........

Custer was egotistical and he did make a HUGE mistake at the Little Big Horn. But he was hardly a moron. I know it is PC today to say he was a murderous moron because he was fighting and ultimately defeated by Native Americans.

However in the US Civil War he was a very capable Cavalry commander and kept an even greater Confederate Cavalry Commander (Jeb Stuart) from getting behind the Union troops at Gettysburg. He took a smaller and less capable force of Union horsemen right up against the Rebel Cavalry and stopped them behind Union Lines.

But he was a reckless and paid dearly when he under estimated the strength of the allied Indian forces and attacked them near the Little Big Horn River.
 
Colpy
Conservative
#25
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

Custer was egotistical and he did make a HUGE mistake at the Little Big Horn. But he was hardly a moron. I know it is PC today to say he was a murderous moron because he was fighting and ultimately defeated by Native Americans.

However in the US Civil War he was a very capable Cavalry commander and kept an even greater Confederate Cavalry Commander (Jeb Stuart) from getting behind the Union troops at Gettysburg. He took a smaller and less capable force of Union horsemen right up against the Rebel Cavalry and stopped them behind Union Lines.

But he was a reckless and paid dearly when he under estimated the strength of the allied Indian forces and attacked them near the Little Big Horn River.


You could argue this all day, without conclusion, but here is my three-line opinion of the man:

He was consistently over-the-edge aggressive, with complete confidence in his own infallibility.

He got away with it a couple of times.

He didn't at Little Big Horn.
 
mentalfloss
#26
Guys stop talking about che. He's a nobody. A nobody I tells ya!
 
MapleDog
Free Thinker
#27
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

Guys stop talking about che. He's a nobody. A nobody I tells ya!

Tell that to leftists commies,and be prepare to run fast,they'll go apesh*t.
 
mentalfloss
#28
Quote: Originally Posted by MapleDog View Post

Tell that to leftists commies,and be prepare to run fast,they'll go apesh*t.

Someone should ask Tommy the Commie.
 
EagleSmack
#29
Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

You could argue this all day, without conclusion, but here is my three-line opinion of the man:

He was consistently over-the-edge aggressive, with complete confidence in his own infallibility.

He got away with it a couple of times.

He didn't at Little Big Horn.

Not too much to argue about there. Especially with lines 1 and 3. Line 2, well he got away with it quite a bit. His aggressiveness during the Civil War was exactly what was needed. Up till then it was Confederate cavalry aggressiveness that was making the Union cavalry truly look like morons. Custer and then Sheridan pretty much got fed up with the Reb Cavalry and made them a specific target and ended that nonsense.

At Little Big Horn he blundered monumentally. Not only did he divide his force in the face of overwhelming numbers he divided it yet again and went on the attack.
 
MapleDog
Free Thinker
#30
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

Someone should ask Tommy the Commie.

Or the Bloc and the PQ and Kadhir
 

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