Brexit 2019: the Good, Bad and could-turn-Ugly options


spilledthebeer
#421
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

Listen to me, WU. Listen very carefully.

The. . . UK. . . does. . . not. . . use. . . the. . . Euro.

It. . . uses. . . sterling. . . also. . . known. . . as. . . pounds.




AND AS NOTED on various web sites...............................


major businesses in U.K. ACCEPT euros!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


After the BREXIT...................................there will be regular examination of exchange rates!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Simply because EU LIE-berals will NOT want to see Britain GET AHEAD by cutting out LIE-beral policy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And THERE is a MAJOR REASON why there will be NO Brexit deal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Eu LIE-berals cannot afford to throw Britain out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Neither can EU LIE-berals tolerate the existence of a SUCCESSFUL Britain whose success is due to DUMPING LIE-beral policy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


EU LIE-berals are simply doing as Our idiot Boy and his loser LIE-berals are doing.................................


they are STALLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And HOPING DESPERATELY for some political CHANGE that will get them off the hook!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!!
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#422
Brexit: Boris Johnson says he is 'not aiming for no deal'

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics...p+news+stories
 
Blackleaf
#423
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post

Brexit: Boris Johnson says he is 'not aiming for no deal'
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics...p+news+stories

But says it must remain on the table and will go for it if there's no good deal - so just like normal negotiations.
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#424
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

But says it must remain on the table and will go for it if there's no good deal - so just like normal negotiations.

What do you think is going to happen??
 
Blackleaf
#425
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post

What do you think is going to happen??

I think Johnson - let's face it, he will soon be PM - will take us out of the EU on 31st October - with No Deal. The EU has said many times that May's dead deal is the only one on offer, so unless it capitulates under pressure from Johnson there will be no other deal.
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#426
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

I think Johnson - let's face it, he will soon be PM - will take us out of the EU on 31st October - with No Deal. The EU has said many times that May's dead deal is the only one on offer, so unless it capitulates under pressure from Johnson there will be no other deal.

How will that be better than being part f the EU?? Considering that there is strength in numbers.--particularly in todays aggressive world.
 
pgs
Free Thinker
#427
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post

How will that be better than being part f the EU?? Considering that there is strength in numbers.--particularly in todays aggressive world.

How would you like Canadian law being crafted in Washington ? After all there is strength in numbers .
 
White_Unifier
#428
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

How would you like Canadian law being crafted in Washington ? After all there is strength in numbers .

As long as we had fair representation there and maybe depending on other details, I could be open to the idea. First, I'd expect Washington to become a monarchy first of course.
 
spilledthebeer
#429
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post

Brexit: Boris Johnson says he is 'not aiming for no deal'

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics...p+news+stories




OH DEAR ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!


The Ocean Breeze HAS BLOWN YOUR BRAIN AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!


What does Boris beansforbrains THINK he is going to negotiate with Europeans????????????????????????


They ALREADY MADE what they said was their last and NON- negotiable offer to Teresa May!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


NO DEAL........................................


IS THE REAL DEAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!


Pie in the sky is for LIE-berals who dont like REALITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
pgs
Free Thinker
#430
Quote: Originally Posted by White_Unifier View Post

As long as we had fair representation there and maybe depending on other details, I could be open to the idea. First, I'd expect Washington to become a monarchy first of course.

They already fought a war against a monarchy .
 
spilledthebeer
#431
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

They already fought a war against a monarchy .




And now the Yankees have CHAOS.........................................


and a PARALYZED Congress!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !


Because the not so clever Founding Fathers wanted to make sure.....................................


that an oppressor could never grab power in Washington!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So all the powers got SPLIT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Yankee LIE-berals have spent FOUR YEARS arguing about Trump....................................


and the ONLY agreement they have reached is Yankee LIE-berals would all PAY BIG MONEY to see him impeached...............................


IF ONLY they could figure out how to do it???????????????????????????????????



As for Canada.....................................


we have had four years of Our idiot Boy and his loser LIE-berals.........................................


and the public consensus is that HE HAS TO GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


For Cdns the big question is WHO to replace him with!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!


Clearly the British system is BETTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!
 
Blackleaf
#432
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post

How will that be better than being part f the EU??

How is being a sovereign, independent nation state better than being run by an economically sclerotic, anti-democratic, inward-looking, bureaucratic, protectionist superstate run by unelected, foreign, self-serving bureaucrats?
Quote:

Considering that there is strength in numbers.--particularly in todays aggressive world

So why's Canada not part of it?
 
Hoid
#433
Canada is not in the European Union because it isn't in Europe.

 
Blackleaf
#434
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Canada is not in the European Union because it isn't in Europe.

Neither is Turkey, but it may join soon.

Thankfully, Britain will be out before Turkey joins the Union. I don't fancy 80-odd million Muslims suddenly being eligible to live in Great Britain.

So there isn't anything really stopping Canada joining.

Why don't you ask Trudeau to take you in? Remember you'll have to adopt the euro, free movement and have the EU flag flying from your parliament building.
 
Hoid
#435
Why don't you grab a brain?
 
Blackleaf
#436
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Why don't you grab a brain?

Why don't you want Canada to join the EU but expect Britain to stay in it?

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
+1
#437
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

How is being a sovereign, independent nation state better than being run by an economically sclerotic, anti-democratic, inward-looking, bureaucratic, protectionist superstate run by unelected, foreign, self-serving bureaucrats?

So why's Canada not part of it?

CDA is not in EUROPE.

CDA has enough challenges as part of N.America.
 
Blackleaf
#438
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post

CDA is not in EUROPE.
.

Neither is Turkey.

And is it really the case that your only opposition to EU membership is that you're not in Europe?
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#439
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

Neither is Turkey.

And is it really the case that your only opposition to EU membership is that you're not in Europe?

why did you join the EU in the first place?? If it is so offensive being part of that community./partnership??
 
Blackleaf
#440
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post

why did you join the EU in the first place?? If it is so offensive being part of that community./partnership??

Well the British people were lied to and were told it was merely about trade.

Why don't you want Canada to be part of it?
 
White_Unifier
+1
#441
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

Neither is Turkey, but it may join soon.
Thankfully, Britain will be out before Turkey joins the Union. I don't fancy 80-odd million Muslims suddenly being eligible to live in Great Britain.
So there isn't anything really stopping Canada joining.
Why don't you ask Trudeau to take you in? Remember you'll have to adopt the euro, free movement and have the EU flag flying from your parliament building.

A part of Turkey is in Europe. Also, French Guiana is part of the EU because it's part of France which is in Europe.
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#442
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

Well the British people were lied to and were told it was merely about trade.

Why don't you want Canada to be part of it?

It makes no sense.
 
White_Unifier
+1
#443
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

Well the British people were lied to and were told it was merely about trade.
Why don't you want Canada to be part of it?

Why should Canada limit its trading options that way? Canada should leave NAFTA or whatever it's called right now, unilaterally drop all tariffs and quotas against the world except UN-sanctioned countries, and then negotiate trade agreements in packaging, labelling, phytosanitary rules, etc. on the condition that all negotiating parties understand that Canada's right to trade unilaterally with the world in tariffs and quotas is sacrosanct and no agreement could limit Canada's freedom in that regard. Trade with one country should not come at the expense of trade with another. Any state that wants to limit Canada's freedom in that regard is not worth negotiating with.
 
Blackleaf
#444
Quote: Originally Posted by White_Unifier View Post

A part of Turkey is in Europe.

3% of it. East Thrace.

What's your opposition to Canadian membership of the EU now that you know you don't have to be European to join it?
 
White_Unifier
+1
#445
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

3% of it.

So? The EU's rules state that only a country that possesses land on the European continent can join the EU. It doesn't specify how much land that must be.

So technically, if Canada traded a square metre of Canadian land for a square metre of UK land if the UK wanted to, Canada could then join the EU.

But just to make it more practical, how about we trade a port for a port?
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#446
Quote: Originally Posted by White_Unifier View Post

So? The EU's rules state that only a country that possesses land on the European continent can join the EU. It doesn't specify how much land that must be.

So technically, if Canada traded a square metre of Canadian land for a square metre of UK land if the UK wanted to, Canada could then join the EU.

But just to make it more practical, how about we trade a port for a port?

not the one in BC....not an option
 
White_Unifier
#447
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post

not the one in BC....not an option

Who says it has to be a major port? Find a small river port somewhere1
 
Blackleaf
#448
Quote: Originally Posted by White_Unifier View Post

So? The EU's rules state that only a country that possesses land on the European continent can join the EU. It doesn't specify how much land that must be.

Rubbish. Cyprus is part of the EU and it's in Asia.

As a former member of the British Empire, Canada is eligible to join the EU. In fact, as early as 2005 people were proposing that Canada join the EU.

What other reasons are there why you don't want Canada to join the EU?
 
White_Unifier
+1
#449
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

Rubbish. Cyprus is part of the EU and it's in Asia.
As a former member of the British Empire, Canada is eligible to join the EU. In fact, as early as 2005 people were proposing that Canada join the EU.
What other reasons are there why you don't want Canada to join the EU?

Both Greece and Turkey claim it and they are both at least partly European states.
As for Canada, Canada is now a sovereign state, so the UK would have to give us at least a grain of land to make Canada eligible to join the EU.
My main reason for hesitating to have Canada join the EU is the way it operates as a kind of Fortress Europe.
Sure it has free trade within its borders; and with its large population and wealth, that's attractive. Unfortunately, the EU has an attitute similar to the US' (and Canada's, to be honest) when it comes to trade protectionism beyond its borders. Canada should take more inspriation from Hong Kong on that front, not the EU.
Last edited by White_Unifier; Jun 14th, 2019 at 06:58 PM..
 
White_Unifier
#450
I'd be open to Canada negotiating common rules with the EU on a wide range of areas (packaging, labelling,phytosanitary rules, etc.). Obviously standardized rules make business run smoother. In fact, if that's all the EU were about, I'd be quite tempted to have Canada join the EU. But its those pesky external tariffs! They force you to be in or out and you can't have it both ways when it comes to tariffs and quotas.
 

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