Is Canada ready for Trudeau-Mania?


JLM
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#31
Quote: Originally Posted by DurkaDurka View Post

I don't think he will go for it. Any Savvy politician aspiring to be PM will want a strong supporting cast, which the Liberals do not have at the moment.

A week or so ago I'd have agreed with you, but now I'm not so sure. Harper is starting to act like an A$$hole!

Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

I read in the newspaper this morning that Trudeau commented on 'feeling intense pressure' to accept this post. In my eyes, a person that describes the opportunity in that fashion is not truly interested in moving in that direction

Perhaps just as well, if he feels pressure now he could explode in a top leadership role. Remember Trudeau isn't blessed with extremely stable genes, apart from his father being a raving lunatic, his mother has suffered from mental illness for much of her life! (Mind you I think she may have come by that honestly)
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
#32
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Perhaps just as well, if he feels pressure now he could explode in a top leadership role. Remember Trudeau isn't blessed with extremely stable genes, apart from his father being a raving lunatic,

hehehehe


Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

his mother has suffered from mental illness for much of her life! (Mind you I think she may have come by that honestly)

Can ya blame her? The poor wee thing had to live and deal with PET all those years, it'd make anyone barmy
 
lone wolf
Free Thinker
#33
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

I read in the newspaper this morning that Trudeau commented on 'feeling intense pressure' to accept this post. In my eyes, a person that describes the opportunity in that fashion is not truly interested in moving in that direction

I think I heard the same comment from Trudeau Sr just before his third term....
 
JLM
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#34
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

hehehehe




Can ya blame her? The poor wee thing had to live and deal with PET all those years, it'd make anyone barmy

That's EXACTLY what I was alluding to.
 
WLDB
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#35
I wonder how many times he has to say he's not running before people listen.
 
JLM
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#36
Quote: Originally Posted by WLDB View Post

I wonder how many times he has to say he's not running before people listen.

Probably right up until the day he changes his mind!
 
skookumchuck
Free Thinker
#37
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

hehehehe




Can ya blame her? The poor wee thing had to live and deal with PET all those years, it'd make anyone barmy

She decided not to gather any moss.
 
WLDB
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#38
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Probably right up until the day he changes his mind!

His reasons make sense. Says its about his family. He knows first hand what that job can do to a family. I imagine he'd want to avoid that mess.
 
CDNBear
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#39
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

I read in the newspaper this morning that Trudeau commented on 'feeling intense pressure' to accept this post. In my eyes, a person that describes the opportunity in that fashion is not truly interested in moving in that direction

Or he's setting the stage for his acceptance.
 
skookumchuck
Free Thinker
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#40
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear View Post

Or he's setting the stage for his acceptance.

The handlers and his own considerable ego assure that.
 
CDNBear
#41
Quote: Originally Posted by skookumchuck View Post

The handlers and his own considerable ego assure that.

Oh he is his fathers child for sure.

But I thank Gawd every day that it isn't Sasha in his place though.
 
JLM
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#42
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear View Post

Oh he is his fathers child for sure.

But I thank Gawd every day that it isn't Sasha in his place though.

What's the scoop on Sasha?
 
CDNBear
#43
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

What's the scoop on Sasha?

Sacha's love letter

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The last days of the patriarch

Pierre Trudeau had a friendship with Fidel Castro that went beyond politics. It was a mutual admiration between two men who put their unmatched intellects at the service of their country. On Castro's 80th birthday, an essay by Alexandre Trudeau

Aug. 13, 2006. 07:38 AM
ALEXANDRE TRUDEAU
SPECIAL TO THE STAR

I grew up knowing that Fidel Castro had a special place among my family's friends. We had a picture of him at home: a great big man with a beard who wore military fatigues and held my baby brother Michel in his arms. When he met my little brother in 1976, he even gave him a nickname that would stick with him his whole life: "Micha-Miche."

A few years later, when Michel was around 8 years old, I remember him complaining to my mother that my older brother and I both had more friends than he did. My mother told him that, unlike us, he had the greatest friend of all: he had Fidel.

For many years, Cuba remained Michel's exclusive realm; whenever someone would accompany my father there, it would naturally be Michel. It wasn't until after both my father's and brother's deaths that I got a chance to visit Fidel and his country, Cuba.

Fidel may have been at first a political contact of my father's but their relationship was much more than that. It was extra-political.

Indeed, like my father, in private, Fidel is not a politician. He is more in the vein of a great adventurer or a great scientific mind. Fidel doesn't really do politics. He is a revolutionary.

He lives to learn and to put his knowledge in the service of the revolution.

For Fidel, revolution is really a work of reason. In his view, revolution, when rigorously adopted, cannot fail to lead humanity towards ever greater justice, towards an ever more perfect social order.

Fidel is also the most curious man that I have ever met. He wants to know all there is to be known. He is famous for not sleeping, instead spending the night studying and learning.

He also knows what he doesn't know, and when he meets you he immediately seeks to identify what he might learn from you. Once he has ascertained an area of expertise that might be of interest, he begins with his questions. One after the other. He synthesizes information quickly and gets back to you with ever deeper and more complex questions, getting more and more excited as he illuminates, through his Socratic interrogation, new parcels of knowledge and understanding he might add to his own mental library.

His intellect is one of the most broad and complete that can be found. He is an expert on genetics, on automobile combustion engines, on stock markets. On everything.

Combined with a Herculean physique and extraordinary personal courage, this monumental intellect makes Fidel the giant that he is.

He is something of a superman. My father once told us how he had expressed to Fidel his desire to do some diving in Cuba. Fidel took him to the most enchanting spot on the island and set him up with equipment and a tank. He stood back as my father geared up and began to dive alone.

When my father had reached a depth of around 60 feet, he realized that Fidel was down there with him, that he had descended without a tank and that there he was with a knife in hand prying sea urchins off the ocean floor, grinning.

Back on the surface, they feasted on the raw sea urchins, seasoned with lime juice.

Fidel turns 80 years old today. A couple of weeks ago, he shocked the world by turning power over to his brother Raul after holding it without interruption since the 1959 revolution. In newspapers across the world, pundits solemnly declared that even giants are mortal and that no revolution is eternal. Historians even began to prepare the space that will be granted Fidel in history books.

Fidel may seem an anachronism: a visionary statesman in a world where his kind have long since been replaced by mere managers, a 20th-century icon still present in the 21st century.

There is also wild speculation about what fate awaits Cuba after Castro. It is important to note, however, that while the whole world works itself up about the matter, Cubans themselves play it cool. Some of my shrewder Cuban friends even say that this temporary withdrawal from power is another one of Castro's clever strategies; that it is something of a test and that he will soon be back at the helm.

They say that, on one hand, Castro is allowing the Cuban people, and more specifically the Cuban state apparatus, to become accustomed to the leadership of his brother Raul. On the other hand, Castro is carefully watching for hints as to how the world — and, more importantly, the United States — will react to his final departure.

Cubans remain very proud of Castro, even those who don't share his vision. They know that, among the world's many peoples, they have the most audacious and brilliant of leaders. They respect his intellectual machismo and rigour.

But Castro's leadership can be something of a burden, too. They do occasionally complain, often as an adolescent might complain about a too strict and demanding father.

The Jefe (chief) sees all and knows all, they might say. In particular, young Cubans have told me that an outsider cannot ever really imagine what it is like to live in such a hermetic society, where everyone has an assigned spot and is watched and judged carefully. You can never really learn on your own, they might say.

The Jefe always knows what is best for you. It can be suffocating, they say.

I met a young man in the small provincial town of Remedios who worked there as a cigar roller. We shared a great love for the works of Dostoyevsky.

When I expressed to him my excitement at meeting a fellow aficionado of Russian literature, he flatly told me: "Yes, Fidel has taught me to read and to think, but look what work he sets me out to do with this education: I roll cigars!"

Cuba under Castro is a remarkably literate and healthy country, but it is undeniably poor. Historians will note, however, that never in modern times has a small, peaceful country been more subjected to unfair and malicious treatment by a superpower than Cuba has by the United States.

From the very start, the United States never gave Castro's Cuba a choice. Either Castro had to submit himself and his people to America's will or he had to hold his ground against them.

Which is what he did, in the process drawing the Cuban people into this taxing dialectic that continues to this day. Cubans pay the price and may occasionally complain of their fate, but they rarely blame Castro. The United States never fails to make the Cuban people well aware of its spite for this small neighbouring country that dares to be independent.

With the possible exception of Nelson Mandela, already well into retirement, Fidel is the last of the global patriarchs. Reason, revolution and virtue are becoming more and more distant and abstract concepts. We will perhaps never see another patriarch.

We thus have to conceive of the departure of the last patriarch in psychoanalytical terms. The death of the father doesn't signal our liberation from him — quite the contrary. The death of a father so grand and present as Castro will, rather, immortalize him in the minds of his children.

It is true that Cubans may eventually cast away the communist orthodoxy of the revolution. They will become tempted by American capital and values as soon as the embargo against them is lifted, something that will surely follow in the not so distant future. They will have new opportunities for individual fulfilment and downfall. Without a doubt, Cuba without Castro will not remain unchanged.

But Cubans will continue to be subjected to Castro's influence. Whether they like it or not, they will continue to be called out by his voice, by his questions, by his inescapable rationality, which, whether they heed its call or not, demands they defend the integrity of Cuba and urges them to seek justice and excellence in all things.

For a generation to come, they will be haunted by the vision of a society that never existed and probably never will exist, but which their once-leader, the most brilliant and obsessed of all, never stopped believing could exist and should exist.

Cubans will always feel privileged that they, and they alone, had Fidel.

Last edited by CDNBear; Jun 15th, 2012 at 06:02 PM..
 

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