Gerald Stanley Not Guilty


Jinentonix
+1
#91
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

nazi.

And yet it's the nazis who confiscated everyone's guns in Germany. Even the Liberal and NDP gun ban orgies make no sense.
The first such orgy took place after the L'Ecole Polytechnique massacre. Yet ironically, the rifle model used in that massacre is still available to legally purchase and own, sort of. Here's what I mean.

This Ruger mini-14 is perfectly legal to own in Canada.

This Ruger Mini-14 is a restricted weapon, despite the fact the only thing that's altered is the appearance. It still has the same muzzle velocity and rate of fire as the above model.

Add a folding stock to either of them and it becomes a prohibited weapon. A lot of firearms that made it to the restricted and prohibited categories weren't banned because they were high performance weapons, they were banned simply because they looked scary. The Ruger min-14 and its cosmetic variants are proof of that, and just one example of overreaching govt regulations when it comes to firearms.
 
petros
#92
There were Arab Nazis, Black Nazis, Japanese Nazis.

Racists!
 
Hoof Hearted
+4
#93
I have a question. Did Stanley even realize Boushie was native at the time of the incident? Or did he just feel threatened by a young group in a car with a weapon?

If the answer is 'no', then why is this case about race in the first place?
 
JLM
-1
#94
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoof Hearted View Post

I have a question. Did Stanley even realize Boushie was native at the time of the incident? Or did he just feel threatened by a young group in a car with a weapon?

If the answer is 'no', then why is this case about race in the first place?

Because the victim was indigenous?
 
Jinentonix
+4
#95
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoof Hearted View Post

I have a question. Did Stanley even realize Boushie was native at the time of the incident? Or did he just feel threatened by a young group in a car with a weapon?

Do you think it really matters to the ALT-leftoids? The narrative is what's important and in this case a White guy shot and killed a Native guy. It doesn't matter the circumstances surrounding it. He's guilty and a racist because he's White and the jury were obviously a bunch of racists as well.
 
Hoid
#96
I thought it was odd to have the Prime Minister express sympathy for the family of the victim. I thought he should have also expressed sympathy for the other family involved. Or maybe he did and it was not reported.
 
Hoof Hearted
+3
#97
JLM,

I get that, but if Stanley didn't realize the occupants of the car were native, doesn't that kind of not make this incident about race? It's about a confused farmer who felt threatened and panicked is it not?
 
petros
+3
#98
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoof Hearted View Post

I have a question. Did Stanley even realize Boushie was native at the time of the incident? Or did he just feel threatened by a young group in a car with a weapon?

If the answer is 'no', then why is this case about race in the first place?

Has anyone considered how many times he has been robbed in the past?
 
Colpy
+1
#99
Quote: Originally Posted by Jinentonix View Post

And yet it's the nazis who confiscated everyone's guns in Germany. Even the Liberal and NDP gun ban orgies make no sense.
The first such orgy took place after the L'Ecole Polytechnique massacre. Yet ironically, the rifle model used in that massacre is still available to legally purchase and own, sort of. Here's what I mean.

This Ruger mini-14 is perfectly legal to own in Canada.

This Ruger Mini-14 is a restricted weapon, despite the fact the only thing that's altered is the appearance. It still has the same muzzle velocity and rate of fire as the above model.

Add a folding stock to either of them and it becomes a prohibited weapon. A lot of firearms that made it to the restricted and prohibited categories weren't banned because they were high performance weapons, they were banned simply because they looked scary. The Ruger min-14 and its cosmetic variants are proof of that, and just one example of overreaching govt regulations when it comes to firearms.


I'm sorry, but your post is completely incorrect as it concerns the Mini 14.

The 18 1/2 inch barreled version of the Ruger Mini 14 is completely unrestricted in Canada unless it is put in a bullpup stock.

Handiest rifle known to man. I've owned on since 1978.
 
justlooking
+1
#100
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

I thought it was odd to have the Prime Minister express sympathy for the family of the victim. I thought he should have also expressed sympathy for the other family involved. Or maybe he did and it was not reported.


You know full well he didn't express anything for the Stanleys.
 
Hoid
#101
Really?

This is the thread to post pictures of your favorite guns?
 
Murphy
+1
#102
Shift change.

Flossy is posting contrary stuff again. I think he needs a playmate. He must be an only child.
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
+4
#103
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

When you have no case play the race card. Or gender card if possible.

Or the Nazi/Hitler card.

Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

nazi.

Exhibit A.
 
JLM
+2 / -1
#104
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoof Hearted View Post

JLM,

I get that, but if Stanley didn't realize the occupants of the car were native, doesn't that kind of not make this incident about race? It's about a confused farmer who felt threatened and panicked is it not?

I agree completely but the ones making it racist don't understand or even care to understand about this. They probably even know they are on shaky ground and are grasping at anything that might work as an excuse. When you are trespassing, armed to the teeth and pissed to the eyeballs, would anyone expect to see a red carpet rolled out?
 
taxslave
+5
#105
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoof Hearted View Post

I have a question. Did Stanley even realize Boushie was native at the time of the incident? Or did he just feel threatened by a young group in a car with a weapon?

If the answer is 'no', then why is this case about race in the first place?

It never was about race until some racists tried to make it so. Basically a false flag.
 
JLM
-1
#106
Quote: Originally Posted by Murphy View Post

Shift change.

Flossy is posting contrary stuff again. I think he needs a playmate. He must be an only child.

Maybe a bigger sand box!
 
gerryh
+4
#107
He fired 2 warning shots into the air, the 3rd shot did not fire (some news reported this as a jam, but it was not, it was a delayed fire), as he brought the weapon down it discharged and hit the kid in the head. The only thing the Farmer is "guilty" of is reckless use of a firearm. The weapon should not have been pointed "at" anyone as he brought it down. He should not have been discharging (warning shots) into the air. Where the hell did he think those rounds were going to end up when the fell? If he had handled the weapon properly, no one would have been shot when it finally did discharge.

Now, that being said, those "kids" should not have been on his property, period.
 
Hoid
#108
The racism part is what has happened since the shooting.

If you think First Nations people get the same treatment from the law and the same justice from the courts you are blind.
 
gerryh
+5
#109
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

The racism part is what has happened since the shooting.


Agreed, the amount of racism shown by "First "Nations" against "white" has been horrendous. Plus, those of First Nations heritage that have supported the White farmer have been accused by "First Nations" of lying about their heritage and called "whitey" and "apples".
 
DaSleeper
+2
#110
Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh View Post

He fired 2 warning shots into the air, the 3rd shot did not fire (some news reported this as a jam, but it was not, it was a delayed fire), as he brought the weapon down it discharged and hit the kid in the head. The only thing the Farmer is "guilty" of is reckless use of a firearm. The weapon should not have been pointed "at" anyone as he brought it down. He should not have been discharging (warning shots) into the air. Where the hell did he think those rounds were going to end up when the fell? If he had handled the weapon properly, no one would have been shot when it finally did discharge.

Now, that being said, those "kids" should not have been on his property, period.

I had one of those at the range only once to me in many years of shooting.....and the rule of keeping your firearm pointed downrange for a full minute before even attempting to manually eject the cartridge is there for a reason.....
 
Colpy
+5
#111
Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh View Post

He fired 2 warning shots into the air, the 3rd shot did not fire (some news reported this as a jam, but it was not, it was a delayed fire), as he brought the weapon down it discharged and hit the kid in the head. The only thing the Farmer is "guilty" of is reckless use of a firearm. The weapon should not have been pointed "at" anyone as he brought it down. He should not have been discharging (warning shots) into the air. Where the hell did he think those rounds were going to end up when the fell? If he had handled the weapon properly, no one would have been shot when it finally did discharge.

Now, that being said, those "kids" should not have been on his property, period.

My understanding was that Stanley had fired the two rounds and then reached in through the driver's side window and was trying to yank the keys out of the ignition when the gun went off.

Two rules:

One, in any such situation, when the police show up, STFU.

Two, when the perps are trying to flee, let them.
 
Mowich
+8
#112
I am sorry that a young man lost his life and that the Stanley family lives have been turned upside down by this tragedy.

Imagine how different the outcome had the youths in the car not been thoroughly intoxicated - so much so that at least two of them were passed out, were in possession of a loaded rifle, and had already caused trouble at another farm. Had they simply been sober and in need of help with a flat tire, respectful of other's property - not trying to start an ATV and then crashing into a Stanley vehicle, who knows what might have happened. There are consequences to one's actions, sadly in this case the consequences resulted in a death.

In all the resulting hue and cry, I have yet to hear from the family of the dead man concerning where they were when the this group set out for a day of drinking, shooting off a rifle and trying to steal a vehicle? Where did the rifle the group had come from? Why were they in possession of a loaded weapon? Lost among the vitriol being spouted by the family and supporters is any sense of responsibility by them for allowing their children to act in such a reckless manner. Where is their culpability in this matter?
 
Hoid
#113
What about Stanley's family? Are they not culpable in the shooting by letting their hothead father have a loaded weapon?
 
Curious Cdn
-2
#114
Quote: Originally Posted by Mowich View Post

I am sorry that a young man lost his life and that the Stanley family lives have been turned upside down by this tragedy.

Imagine how different the outcome had the youths in the car not been thoroughly intoxicated - so much so that at least two of them were passed out, were in possession of a loaded rifle, and had already caused trouble at another farm. Had they simply been sober and in need of help with a flat tire, respectful of other's property - not trying to start an ATV and then crashing into a Stanley vehicle, who knows what might have happened. There are consequences to one's actions, sadly in this case the consequences resulted in a death.

In all the resulting hue and cry, I have yet to hear from the family of the dead man concerning where they were when the this group set out for a day of drinking, shooting off a rifle and trying to steal a vehicle? Where did the rifle the group had come from? Why were they in possession of a loaded weapon? Lost among the vitriol being spouted by the family and supporters is any sense of responsibility by them for allowing their children to act in such a reckless manner. Where is their culpability in this matter?

Neither you nor I nor anyone else on here is the lawful judge, jury nor executioner of wayward youth or anyone else. You do not have the right to kill just because you think that you do.
 
gerryh
+3
#115
Quote: Originally Posted by hoid View Post

what about stanley's family? Are they not culpable in the shooting by letting their hothead father have a loaded weapon?


nope

Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Neither you nor I nor anyone else on here is the lawful judge, jury nor executioner of wayward youth or anyone else. You do not have the right to kill just because you think that you do.


and he didn't. It was an unfortunate accident, it was preventable, but an accident non the less.
 
Curious Cdn
-3
#116
If you look back a dozen posts, you'll see photos of some idiot's beloved rifle. A few of you guys arm yourselves for just such an opportunity to kill some intruder. You are sick monsters.
 
Murphy
+3
#117
If there is anyone on this board who is not playing with a full deck, it's you. Go watch TV,
 
JLM
+1 / -1
#118
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

If you look back a dozen posts, you'll see photos of some idiot's beloved rifle. A few of you guys arm yourselves for just such an opportunity to kill some intruder. You are sick monsters.

I realized you are an idiot 50 posts back. For Christ sakes quit digging!

Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Neither you nor I nor anyone else on here is the lawful judge, jury nor executioner of wayward youth or anyone else. You do not have the right to kill just because you think that you do.

No, but some of us here do have a handle on common sense and quite often with a little thought are able to arrive at a reasonable answer!

Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

What about Stanley's family? Are they not culpable in the shooting by letting their hothead father have a loaded weapon?

No one in the world is responsible for the behaviour of another adult, with a possible exceptions of someone incarcerated or in the looney bin.
 
petros
+4
#119
3 of Colten's so called friends sold their souls to the Crown and walked away just as free as Mr Stanley
 
Decapoda
+11
#120  Top Rated Post
Quote: Originally Posted by Mowich View Post

In all the resulting hue and cry, I have yet to hear from the family of the dead man concerning where they were when the this group set out for a day of drinking, shooting off a rifle and trying to steal a vehicle? Where did the rifle the group had come from? Why were they in possession of a loaded weapon? Lost among the vitriol being spouted by the family and supporters is any sense of responsibility by them for allowing their children to act in such a reckless manner. Where is their culpability in this matter?

You wonít hear those details from the family. The facts that were laid out by the group that were with Bouchie that day is a narrative that most indigenous groups, our PM, and others shouting racism do not want to talk about. It exposes many issues that go much deeper than a few innocent kids with car trouble.

No one seems to want to talk about the fact that the group started drinking that day at Bouchieís grandmothers house. No one wants to talk about the fact that the reason they were driving on a rim without a tire is because they were all drunk out of their mind, hit a culvert and peeled the tire off the rim, or that the day's other activities... after downing a 60 pounder of crown royal and a bottle of vodka was some target practice with a rifle, or that the reason the rifle stock was later found broken was because it was used to try and break into a vehicle on a neighbouring property.

I think the indigenous community, our PM, and others who are crying racism need to look a little deeper. Itís easy to blame it all on racism. if we really want to find a solution to a very real, very complex problem, we are going to have to be honest with ourselves rather than finding scapegoats to conveniently blame all our problems on. It's going to take honesty and effort, two things that appear to be in very short supply when it comes to addressing real problems in this country.
 

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