Trudeau Begs the U.S to Tighten it's Immigration Laws


EagleSmack
#91
New Migrant Surge Tests Canada’s Welcoming Stance

http://www.wsj.com/articles/new-migr...nce-1526376601


From the Wall St. Journal....

Selected high points of the article...

People breaching the border is a new challenge for Canada. The country’s geographic isolation has traditionally allowed it to maintain a highly selective immigration and refugee system,


“It forces Canadians, who have always patted themselves on the back for being very open to immigration, very welcoming, to deal with the kinds of challenges Italy, Greece and others have been facing and to realize it’s not so easy,” said Irene Bloemraad, a migration expert and the chair of Canadian studies at University of California, Berkeley.


Mr. Hussen and other officials are concerned shutting down unofficial crossings would push migrants to use more dangerous routes and sneak into the country undetected. Instead, they are trying head off a big wave of claimants ahead of summer. The minister met with Nigeria’s high commissioner to Canada last month to discuss the rise in the number of Nigerians using U.S. visas to enter Canada and then claim asylum. His department has also sent officers to Nigeria to communicate with U.S. embassy officials about abuse of travel visas; Mr. Hussen is in Nigeria this week. The Canadian government also aims to send officials to Nigerian churches in the U.S. to dispel myths of easy entry to Canada.


One woman said she and her family had taken a plane from Nigeria to New York City, then a bus to Plattsburgh, N.Y., and a shuttle to the Canadian border.
“We came here for protection, for a better life,” she said, adding that her family faced persecution and worries over female genital mutilation in Nigeria. She declined to give her name as she hurried across.



Quote: Originally Posted by White_Unifier View Post

There's nothing wrong with a voter ID law. Just make passports free for the poor and let people register their finger prints if they want to. Then there would be no excuse for a person to scan his passport or fingerprint at the entrance to the voting booth. The scanning technology already exists and it's quite advanced.

Wow... you'd be considered a racist with that suggestion down here.
 
Most helpful post: The members here have rated this post as best reply.
White_Unifier
#92
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

New Migrant Surge Tests Canada’s Welcoming Stance

http://www.wsj.com/articles/new-migr...nce-1526376601


From the Wall St. Journal....

Selected high points of the article...

People breaching the border is a new challenge for Canada. The country’s geographic isolation has traditionally allowed it to maintain a highly selective immigration and refugee system,


“It forces Canadians, who have always patted themselves on the back for being very open to immigration, very welcoming, to deal with the kinds of challenges Italy, Greece and others have been facing and to realize it’s not so easy,” said Irene Bloemraad, a migration expert and the chair of Canadian studies at University of California, Berkeley.


Mr. Hussen and other officials are concerned shutting down unofficial crossings would push migrants to use more dangerous routes and sneak into the country undetected. Instead, they are trying head off a big wave of claimants ahead of summer. The minister met with Nigeria’s high commissioner to Canada last month to discuss the rise in the number of Nigerians using U.S. visas to enter Canada and then claim asylum. His department has also sent officers to Nigeria to communicate with U.S. embassy officials about abuse of travel visas; Mr. Hussen is in Nigeria this week. The Canadian government also aims to send officials to Nigerian churches in the U.S. to dispel myths of easy entry to Canada.


One woman said she and her family had taken a plane from Nigeria to New York City, then a bus to Plattsburgh, N.Y., and a shuttle to the Canadian border.
“We came here for protection, for a better life,” she said, adding that her family faced persecution and worries over female genital mutilation in Nigeria. She declined to give her name as she hurried across.





Wow... you'd be considered a racist with that suggestion down here.

Heck, social services could even help a person to apply for a passport at their office in collaboration with the feds. No excuse. Many states around the world have national ID cards.
 
EagleSmack
#93
Quote: Originally Posted by White_Unifier View Post

Heck, social services could even help a person to apply for a passport at their office in collaboration with the feds. No excuse. Many states around the world have national ID cards.

Because you're Canadian I will accept the fact that you are not well informed when it comes to Voter ID Laws in the U.S.

Liberals here in the U.S are dead set against Voter ID Laws because they do not believe minorities are responsible enough to have an I.D. or educated enough to know where to get one. Therefor the Liberals believe that minorities will not vote because they do not have an I.D. This thinking stems from their liberal education and systematic racism among the white liberal elite. Also, Liberals know that it is very difficult to commit voter fraud with a Voter ID Law. They depend on that in closely contested areas.

Also, it is foolish to think that the U.S needs to give free passports to poor people or finger print them. This is yet another example of "White Savoir Complex".
 
petros
+1
#94
Same shit up here bub.
 
White_Unifier
#95
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

Because you're Canadian I will accept the fact that you are not well informed when it comes to Voter ID Laws in the U.S.

Liberals here in the U.S are dead set against Voter ID Laws because they do not believe minorities are responsible enough to have an I.D. or educated enough to know where to get one. Therefor the Liberals believe that minorities will not vote because they do not have an I.D. This thinking stems from their liberal education and systematic racism among the white liberal elite. Also, Liberals know that it is very difficult to commit voter fraud with a Voter ID Law. They depend on that in closely contested areas.

Also, it is foolish to think that the U.S needs to give free passports to poor people or finger print them. This is yet another example of "White Savoir Complex".

My proposal for free passports was just an attempt to overcome the objection that poor people can't afford ID.
 
EagleSmack
#96
Quote: Originally Posted by White_Unifier View Post

My proposal for free passports was just an attempt to overcome the objection that poor people can't afford ID.

Which is ridiculous as they already have and need I.D.'s.

That is just another example of the White Savoir Complex.
 
White_Unifier
#97
Canada has no national ID card either. Personally, I'd be in favour of either a national ID card or compulsory passports for all to fulfill the same role. A national ID card or its equivalent exists in many countries and it just makes sense and presents many advantages on a number of fronts.

Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

Which is ridiculous as they already have and need I.D.'s.

That is just another example of the White Savoir Complex.

So if they all have ID already, then where's the problem?

By the way, I'm curious. What ID do they have? Canada has no standardized national ID card. We can use either a driving license, a passport, and a few other acceptable forms of ID. The lack of a common standard ID probably imposes many costs on law enforcement, regulations, etc. when trying to regulate access to places, ID, people, etc. with the police having to run around between different unrelated databases. The closest things to a national ID card in Canada would be either the Canadian passport or different provincial ID cards. Most just use a driving license, but not everyone could acquire that, so that wouldn't really count as a national ID card of any kind.
 
DaSleeper
#98
Doesn't every province have a medical card with photo on it?

Or one of these
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadi...al_photo_cards
 
White_Unifier
#99
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post

Doesn't every province have a medical card with photo on it?

Or one of these
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadi...al_photo_cards

I think the health card is acceptable only for health care purposes. Yes, each province and territory has its own card for those who want it, but there is no pan-national equivalent other than the Canadian passport as far as I can tell.
 
EagleSmack
#100
Quote: Originally Posted by White_Unifier View Post

Canada has no national ID card either. Personally, I'd be in favour of either a national ID card or compulsory passports for all to fulfill the same role. A national ID card or its equivalent exists in many countries and it just makes sense and presents many advantages on a number of fronts.



So if they all have ID already, then where's the problem?

By the way, I'm curious. What ID do they have? Canada has no standardized national ID card. We can use either a driving license, a passport, and a few other acceptable forms of ID. The lack of a common standard ID probably imposes many costs on law enforcement, regulations, etc. when trying to regulate access to places, ID, people, etc. with the police having to run around between different unrelated databases. The closest things to a national ID card in Canada would be either the Canadian passport or different provincial ID cards. Most just use a driving license, but not everyone could acquire that, so that wouldn't really count as a national ID card of any kind.

There are all types of IDs. Most everyone has a drivers license and if you don't have or want a license the DMV provides an approved ID. If you are getting any public services, an ID is provided. All military personnel have IDs. If you want a credit or debit card you need an ID.

Democrats and Liberals just don't want an Voter ID Law. I guess they want the option to commit voter fraud.
 
White_Unifier
#101
And even the passport is available only to citizens, not permanent residents, but it's what comes closest to a national ID card in Canada. Permanent residents do have their PR cards though, the government does issue a refugee travel document to refugees, and foreign nationals all need passports (except some select countries for which Canada allows enhanced driving licenses.

If we wanted to standardize somewhat, we could just require everyone in Canada to possess a national passport (whether Canadian or foreign) or a refugee travel document. It still wouldn't provide a common standardized ID card but it would be a major improvement over the chaos we now have.

Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

There are all types of IDs. Most everyone has a drivers license and if you don't have or want a license the DMV provides an approved ID. If you are getting any public services, an ID is provided. All military personnel have IDs. If you want a credit or debit card you need an ID.

Democrats and Liberals just don't want an Voter ID Law. I guess they want the option to commit voter fraud.

Aren't licenses provided by each state though just like in Canada, they're provided by each province? This means more complications in terms of downloading data into a more common database for practical purposes between states to ID people when traveling inter-state. I'm sure they've integrated to a degree, but how efficiently I'm not sure. Since each state and province handles them, any integrated system is probably highly expensive and inefficient compared to just a common centralized database.
 
EagleSmack
#102
Quote: Originally Posted by White_Unifier View Post


Aren't licenses provided by each state though just like in Canada, they're provided by each province? This means more complications in terms of downloading data into a more common database for practical purposes between states to ID people when traveling inter-state. I'm sure they've integrated to a degree, but how efficiently I'm not sure. Since each state and province handles them, any integrated system is probably highly expensive and inefficient compared to just a common centralized database.

Yes they are and the states are already integrated.

For example, if I go through a toll in another state and don't have my EZ Pass... I'll get a bill in the mail. If I get a moving violation in another state it is shared with all the states databases. The centralized database is already in place and has been for years.
 
White_Unifier
#103
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

Yes they are and the states are already integrated.

For example, if I go through a toll in another state and don't have my EZ Pass... I'll get a bill in the mail. If I get a moving violation in another state it is shared with all the states databases. The centralized database is already in place and has been for years.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but with an enhanced driving license, you can enter Canada without a passport. That means that if you enter with a driving license and your friend sitting beside you enters with only a passport, and CBSA want to verify things on you, they would need to check through two separate databases. I have little doubt that even they are quite integrated, but I'm sure the integration is probably more complex and so more prone to glitches, slow processing time, and freezing, etc. I'd imagine a more standardized ID and database would require simpler integration and so less risk of glitches, etc.
 
EagleSmack
+1
#104
Quote: Originally Posted by White_Unifier View Post

Correct me if I'm wrong, but with an enhanced driving license, you can enter Canada without a passport. That means that if you enter with a driving license and your friend sitting beside you enters with only a passport, and CBSA want to verify things on you, they would need to check through two separate databases. I have little doubt that even they are quite integrated, but I'm sure the integration is probably more complex and so more prone to glitches, slow processing time, and freezing, etc. I'd imagine a more standardized ID and database would require simpler integration and so less risk of glitches, etc.

I don't think so. I will be going into Canada this summer and I just checked the entry laws again and I would need either a passport or a passport card. A passport card allows passage for Americans into Canada, Mexico, Bermuda, and the Caribbean. The same rules apply to Canadians, Mexicans, etc.

Unless things have changed within the last year. I entered Canada last year and everyone in the car had to show passports or passport cards.
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#105
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

Canada wants US to better enforce immigration laws to help combat the Canadian refugee problem

That has to be the biggest joke posted on this forum, this year. Trump was doing that and everyone whined about it, whereas our idiot in Ottawa opened the "flood gates" and welcomed tens of thousands of refugees with open arms and gave them all access to food, shelter, medical attention and education. He made the mess, he should sort it out.
 
EagleSmack
#106
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

That has to be the biggest joke posted on this forum, this year. Trump was doing that and everyone whined about it, whereas our idiot in Ottawa opened the "flood gates" and welcomed tens of thousands of refugees with open arms and gave them all access to food, shelter, medical attention and education. He made the mess, he should sort it out.

That is so true.

Is it any wonder why the Alt-Left Liberal White Supremacists on this forum want these very important and popular threads to be stopped?
 
captain morgan
No Party Affiliation
+1
#107
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

That is so true.

Is it any wonder why the Alt-Left Liberal White Supremacists on this forum want these very important and popular threads to be stopped?


They sure do work awfully hard at that.... It's even sadder that they have absolutely no rebuttal to these facts
 
EagleSmack
#108
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

They sure do work awfully hard at that.... It's even sadder that they have absolutely no rebuttal to these facts

No rebuttal except to spam the forum with nonsensical threads.

*snicker*
 
captain morgan
No Party Affiliation
+1
#109
Not only nonsensical, but repetitive and overlapping every time
 
EagleSmack
+1
#110
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

Not only nonsensical, but repetitive and overlapping every time

That just shows the level of rage among the Alt-Left. Nothing but blind hate in liberals these days.
 
captain morgan
No Party Affiliation
+1
#111
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

That just shows the level of rage among the Alt-Left. Nothing but blind hate in liberals these days.


All those folks in the Alt-left camp must spend a fortune on ulcer medication
 
EagleSmack
#112
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

All those folks in the Alt-left camp must spend a fortune on ulcer medication

Not to mention trips to the Psychiatrists.
 
captain morgan
No Party Affiliation
#113
They are a sad and sorry bunch, those alt-lefties, destined to die cold, hungry and alone
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#114
Isn't J.T. being a little hypocritical wanting another country to tighten immigration when he opened the "flood gates" wider than any other country in the world. It seems he's right Johnny on the spot when it comes to moves to enhance his own popularity but a bit of a coward when it comes to unpopular decisions.
 
EagleSmack
#115
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Isn't J.T. being a little hypocritical wanting another country to tighten immigration when he opened the "flood gates" wider than any other country in the world. It seems he's right Johnny on the spot when it comes to moves to enhance his own popularity but a bit of a coward when it comes to unpopular decisions.

JT is being real hypocritical. He gives the go ahead for all migrants to come and now he's sweating it that they took him up on the offer.
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#116
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

JT is being real hypocritical. He gives the go ahead for all migrants to come and now he's sweating it that they took him up on the offer.

IOW he's an asshole!
 
captain morgan
No Party Affiliation
#117
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

JT is being real hypocritical. He gives the go ahead for all migrants to come and now he's sweating it that they took him up on the offer.


JT was sure all pious and feeling superior when he made the offer.
 
EagleSmack
+1
#118
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

JT was sure all pious and feeling superior when he made the offer.

He certainly was... now he's doing his best to get other countries to do the work he wants done.
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#119
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

JT was sure all pious and feeling superior when he made the offer.

Yeah, it's always very nice to be generous with someone else's money!
 
10larry
#120
Supporting a throng of pm invited border crashers is no prob for an auto balancing budget slug, if he's to take cap in hand in washington best to beg trump to install a moderate or two in his war room. With bolton, pompeo and now haspel as his 'peace' advisors no nation or gov honcho can feel secure. I doubt this trio of rabid hawks respect any border even justyns'.