European Trust of America is "Gone"


Girth
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Europeans’ trust in Trump’s America ‘is gone’ after coronavirus pandemic, poll finds

A poll of thousands of Europeans has found that the majority have an increasingly negative view of the U.S. as a result of the coronavirus crisis, with just 2% of Europeans surveyed expressing the view that the U.S. was a “helpful” ally in the fight against Covid-19.

The poll of 11,000 respondents across nine European countries, commissioned by the European Council on Foreign Relations (ECFR), showed that in almost every country surveyed, there was an increasingly negative perception of the U.S.

In Denmark, Portugal, France, Germany and Spain, around two-thirds of people surveyed said that their view of the U.S. had worsened during the health crisis, the ECFR think-tank, which provides research on European foreign and security policy, said Monday.

This view was particularly marked in France and Germany, where 46% and 42% respectively said their view of the U.S. had worsened “a lot” as a result of the coronavirus pandemic. Poland and Bulgaria were the only countries where the most people said there had been “no change” in their view of the U.S.

Trump’s America


“The proportion of respondents who felt that the U.S. had been a key ally through the crisis was vanishingly small, with the largest proportion in Italy, at just 6%,” the report compiled from the findings, authored by the ECFR’s foreign policy experts, Susi Dennison and Pawel Zerka, noted.

“In a frightening world, one looks around for friends. But Europeans are uncertain who they can rely on. As a pan-European poll ECFR carried out in 2019 showed, Europeans preferred the idea of an EU that was strong enough not to be forced to choose sides in a conflict but, ultimately, would usually side with the United States over any other ally. Now, Europeans’ trust in Trump’s America is gone.”

The report authors said that many respondents said they were “appalled” by the U.S.′ response to tackling the coronavirus crisis at a global level, although the White House has repeatedly denied that it has mishandled the pandemic.

The poll also found that Covid-19 had increased Europeans’ negativity towards both Russia (which is perceived to have not taken active international role in resolving the crisis) and China, where the pandemic was first reported in December. This was particularly so in France and Denmark, where 62% of respondents reported a more negative view of China.

Interestingly, 25% of people polled in Italy saw China as the most useful ally in the crisis, a result which could be due to China sending ventilators, medical experts and personal protective equipment to Italy, where Europe’s outbreak emerged in February.

‘Alone in the world’


The authors of the report said the coronavirus crisis had appeared to galvanize public support for the European Union to take more coordinated action to tackle global threats, and that Europeans had realized “that they are alone in the world.”

Few respondents to the survey had a positive view of the EU’s coronavirus response, however, and when asked “who has been your country’s greatest ally during the coronavirus crisis” a majority of respondents from seven countries answered “no one.”

“The Covid-19 crisis has caught the European public up with the reality that European foreign policymakers have suspected to be the case for a while. Europeans are, ultimately, alone and vulnerable,” report author Susi Dennison said.

“Europeans have digested the fact that the U.S. is no longer necessarily a friend for Europe in times of need. As Germany takes over the Presidency of the EU, next month, this important shift in public opinion towards the U.S. may push European governments to pursue a more independent line in the rebuilding of the international order after Covid-19.”

The pan-European survey was carried out in the field by Datapraxis and YouGov in nine EU member states in the last week of April 2020, and into early May. In France and Germany, 2,000 people in each country were surveyed, and in Bulgaria, Denmark, Italy, Poland, Portugal, Spain and Sweden, 1,000 people were polled in each country.

source: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/29/euro...emic-poll.html
 
Girth
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Europe's view of the United States has nosedived thanks to Trump's mishandling of the coronavirus pandemic



Donald Trump's handling of the coronavirus crisis has inflicted significant damage on European perceptions of the United States.
A major new survey of citizens in EU countries shows that almost 60% of respondents said their view of the US had worsened during the pandemic.
A series of Trump interventions during the crisis have triggered shock and condemnation among many Europeans.
European perceptions of the US have worsened far more than their opinion of China, where the government has been heavily criticised for hiding the extent of the outbreak when it began.
The EU is set to impose a travel ban on Americans coming to the continent due to the rapid spread of cases in the US.

European perceptions of the United States have slumped in European countries that were previously regarded as being Washington's closest allies, thanks to Donald Trump's handling of the coronavirus pandemic.That's the inevitable conclusion that can be drawn from a major new survey of citizens in EU countries, which found that almost 60% of those surveyed said their view of the US had worsened since the start of the pandemic.

By contrast, just 6% of respondents said their view of the US had improved.




The polling of over 11,000 people across nine European countries — Bulgaria, Denmark, France, Germany, Italy, Poland, Portugal, Spain, and Sweden, was commissioned by the European Council of Foreign Relations. It found that in some countries, the proportion of people whose perceptions had worsened was markedly higher than the average. In Germany, which has long been one of the United States' closest allies for decades, 65% of people said their perceptions of the country had worsened. In Portugal, the figure was 70%, while in Denmark it was 71%.

Donald Trump has received criticism from around the world for his response to the coronavirus pandemic in the US, where more than 120,000 Americans have died — more than any other country in the world — according to John Hopkins University.

The president has backed those states pushing to reopen the US economy, despite warnings that doing so too quickly will cause a second wave of coronavirus deaths.

Some of the states and cities in the US which have lifted lockdown measures quickly have seen a surge in new coronavirus cases and hospitalisations, prompting them to scale back reopening plans, according to the Washington Post.

Trump this week claimed that he had requested that his administration slow down testing so as to reduce the number of new cases being recorded. After his press secretary suggested he had been joking, Trump told a reporter on Tuesday: "I don't kid."

Strikingly, European perceptions of the US have worsened even more than those of China, where the outbreak originated, and where the government has been heavily criticised for concealing the extent of the outbreak when it began.

A total of 48% of those polled said their perception of China had worsened, compared to 40% who said it had stayed the same and 12% who said it had improved.

The findings come as the EU prepares to impose a new travel ban on Americans hoping to come to the continent due to the rapid spread of cases in the US.

The shift comes amid international shock about some of the interventions by President Donald Trump during the coronavirus pandemic.

The president's comments speculating that disinfectant might be used to treat coronavirus patients caused widespread disbelief and horror in many European countries.

"Over more than two centuries, the United States has stirred a very wide range of feelings in the rest of the world: love and hatred, fear and hope, envy and contempt, awe and anger," the Irish Times columnist Fintan O'Toole wrote in response to Trump's comments.

"But there is one emotion that has never been directed towards the US until now: pity."


Reports that Trump had attempted to buy exclusive rights to a coronavirus vaccine being developed in Germany also triggered anger on the continent.

Trump's behavior has highlighted already widespread negative feelings in Europe toward the president, with one survey last month finding that just 2% of French people trusted Trump to lead the world.
 
Twin_Moose
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I can see European countries pouting because the USA isn't giving out freebies anymore.
 
B00Mer
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Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

I can see European countries pouting because the USA isn't giving out freebies anymore.

It sucks that they have to pay their fair share towards NATO.. of course they don't like Trump

Not to mention the America 1st concept.. to bad Canada's leadership doesn't feel the same.. it's more like China, East Indian and Saudi 1st over Canadians..



 
Girth
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Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

It sucks that they have to pay their fair share towards NATO.. of course they don't like Trump

I think it may have something to do with Europeans living in close proximity to Totalitarian regimes, throughout history, and recognizing the Trump Administration for what it really is.
 
Twin_Moose
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Quote: Originally Posted by Girth View Post

I think it may have something to do with Europeans living in close proximity to Totalitarian regimes, throughout history, and recognizing the Trump Administration for what it really is.

It's because Trump isn't forgiving loans, demanding fair trade, demanding them to pay their fair share take NATO as 1 example, and not handing money over to their pet projects, use the Paris agreement as 1 example, the WHO as example 2, not financing the WTO as example 3, as they did in the past. No more free rides, the American people should be championing this action. We in Canada dropped to #2 in trade with the US for the same reason, Mexico rose to #1 because they took the opposite approach and chose to work with the current administration.
 
Girth
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Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

It's because Trump isn't forgiving loans, demanding fair trade, demanding them to pay their fair share take NATO as 1 example, and not handing money over to their pet projects, use the Paris agreement as 1 example, the WHO as example 2, not financing the WTO as example 3, as they did in the past. No more free rides, the American people should be championing this action. We in Canada dropped to #2 in trade with the US for the same reason, Mexico rose to #1 because they took the opposite approach and chose to work with the current administration.

-the USA has one of the highest Debt to GDP ratio in the World. It would be hypocritical for him to not forgive any type of loan to any country. US owes China 1.1 trillion
-Fair trade? So when Trump imposes unfair tariffs on Canadian lumber, steel, or dairy products, it's ok?
-NATO countries had already been increasing their NATO spending when Trump came to power
-China is the USA leading trading partner, not Mexico. Canada is #2
-per-capita, Germany, UK, and France contribute at the same rate as the USA for financing the WHO and the WTO
Last edited by Girth; Sep 6th, 2020 at 12:01 PM..
 
Girth
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Leading trade partners of USA:

https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade...top1812yr.html

Contributions to the WTO:

https://www.wto.org/english/thewto_e...ribution_e.pdf

The irony of Trump scolding leaders in regards to their contributions to NATO, is that spending compared to GDP, has actually been increasing steadily in Canada and Europe every year since 2014. Only the USA has spending decreased.

https://www.nato.int/nato_static_fl2...019-069-EN.pdf
Last edited by Girth; Sep 6th, 2020 at 12:07 PM..
 
pgs
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Quote: Originally Posted by Girth View Post

I think it may have something to do with Europeans living in close proximity to Totalitarian regimes, throughout history, and recognizing the Trump Administration for what it really is.

Germany Napoleon’s France , Spain . Are these who you are speaking of ?
 
pgs
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Quote: Originally Posted by Girth View Post

-the USA has one of the highest Debt to GDP ratio in the World. It would be hypocritical for him to not forgive any type of loan to any country. US owes China 1.1 trillion
-Fair trade? So when Trump imposes unfair tariffs on Canadian lumber, steel, or dairy products, it's ok?
-NATO countries had already been increasing their NATO spending when Trump came to power
-China is the USA leading trading partner, not Mexico. Canada is #2
-per-capita, Germany, UK, and France contribute at the same rate as the USA for financing the WHO and the WTO

So they should have no problem living up to their NATO commitments.
 
pgs
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Quote: Originally Posted by Girth View Post




Leading trade partners of USA:

https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade...top1812yr.html

Contributions to the WTO:

https://www.wto.org/english/thewto_e...ribution_e.pdf

The irony of Trump scolding leaders in regards to their contributions to NATO, is that spending compared to GDP, has actually been increasing steadily in Canada and Europe every year since 2014. Only the USA has spending decreased.

https://www.nato.int/nato_static_fl2...019-069-EN.pdf

Good they should decrease it further .
 
Twin_Moose
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Quote: Originally Posted by Girth View Post

-the USA has one of the highest Debt to GDP ratio in the World. It would be hypocritical for him to not forgive any type of loan to any country. US owes China 1.1 trillion
-Fair trade? So when Trump imposes unfair tariffs on Canadian lumber, steel, or dairy products, it's ok?
-NATO countries had already been increasing their NATO spending when Trump came to power
-China is the USA leading trading partner, not Mexico. Canada is #2
-per-capita, Germany, UK, and France contribute at the same rate as the USA for financing the WHO and the WTO

This isn't the 2017 economy anymore Girth

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It’s Official: Mexico Is No. 1 U.S. Trade Partner For First Time, Despite Overall U.S. Trade Decline

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Mexico is the top U.S. trade partner for the first time, according to U.S. Census data released this morning.

At the same time, overall U.S. trade fell for the fourth time in the last six years.

Mexico’s trade with the United States totaled $614.5 billion in 2019, a 0.48% increase over its 2018 total in a year when U.S. trade declined 1.5% to end up at $4.14 trillion.

Canada was the nation’s No. 2-ranked trade partner for the fifth consecutive year while China slipped from No. 1 to No. 3, its U.S. trade decreasing $100.95 billion from its 2018 record.

The gap between the first two trade partners is the smallest in at least a quarter century.....More

 
B00Mer
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Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

This isn't the 2017 economy anymore Girth
17 views|Feb 5, 2020,11:17am EST
It’s Official: Mexico Is No. 1 U.S. Trade Partner For First Time, Despite Overall U.S. Trade Decline

Is drugs, marijuana included in the trade.. No wonder they surpassed Canada
 
Jinentonix
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Just curious, is it much the same Eurotrash that kept screaming that Brexit was racist?
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

It sucks that they have to pay their fair share towards NATO.. of course they don't like Trump

Canada's the same.

America, Britain, Greece and Estonia are the only members who meet the spending target.
 
Girth
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Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

Canada's the same.
America, Britain, Greece and Estonia are the only members who meet the spending target.

I always advocated spending more money on our Armed Forces, since the biggest thread to Canadians has always been our southern neighbors.
 
Serryah
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Canada has always had to put more into our military both while in the forces, and once they come out.


I don't doubt the training our guys have but the lack of proper support from the Government has been disgraceful.


Back to the topic, I do wonder, if Trump wins/gets in again, if the EU, Britain and other countries will flee the sinking US ship like rats or will they stick things out and hope for the best.

For Canada, I hope we limit our dealings with the US to the absolute necessity and look elsewhere (except China and Saudi) for trade and other things.
 
pgs
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Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

Canada has always had to put more into our military both while in the forces, and once they come out.


I don't doubt the training our guys have but the lack of proper support from the Government has been disgraceful.


Back to the topic, I do wonder, if Trump wins/gets in again, if the EU, Britain and other countries will flee the sinking US ship like rats or will they stick things out and hope for the best.

For Canada, I hope we limit our dealings with the US to the absolute necessity and look elsewhere (except China and Saudi) for trade and other things.

Why would any successful business trading with entities across our closest border expect better results through overseas trade ?
 
Twin_Moose
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Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

Canada's the same.
America, Britain, Greece and Estonia are the only members who meet the spending target.

Poland exceeded their spending as well, Canada is well below the threshold
 
B00Mer
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... I'm sorry who gives a shit about Europe anyhow.

... and bunch of wimpy people that the USA, Canada and the UK had to set free during WWII..

Otherwise they would all be speaking German today.

Fukk the EU.
 
pgs
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Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

... I'm sorry who gives a shit about Europe anyhow.

... and bunch of wimpy people that the USA, Canada and the UK had to set free during WWII..

Otherwise they would all be speaking German today.

Fukk the EU.

And ww1