Quote: Originally Posted by MikeyDB
.... Both the Liberals and the Conservatives are exactly what Obama talks about when he makes reference to "olde style politics"....
That's code by the way, for "governments are about money first and nonsensical notions like freedom democracy and justice may be on the list of government issues but they're so far down the list they're invisible".
Money and the power accruing to the control of money is what western governments have been about and will remain what western governments will be about until the last Homo Sapiens takes his/her last breath.
That's pretty grim and very wrong. I know from first hand experience in both parties, that the people in the party do in general actually want what's best for the country both the conservatives and the liberals, I'll even go as far as to say the NDP, even though it seems the whole party is suffering from some collective form of Asperger's Syndrome.
The fact is that the only way to get to run the country in what you precieve as the best way -- is to make money...
As for saying Obama is somehow different... you're nuts, he is the most blatant abuser of a magical "nonsensical notion" message for the point of gaining funds and winning the primary. Obama has never really given any real plan, what he has said has been no different than Hillary. Open your eyes, Obama is no saviour of america, just wait till all the skeletons come out of his closet, he is already starting to get in trouble for certain things, like some questionable campaign contributions, and the republicans havn't even hunkered down and put there political war machine in action.
Back to Canada, this might sound a little strange to a lot of you more activisic types like the NDP. But most Conservative/Liberal polititions, more so most conservative polititions, don't grow up wanting to be in politics at least not as their main goal. First the become successful in what ever career they have chosen, then they take a huge pay cut, because they believe they could help the country by governing with their experience. Generally this means a pay cut.
now about your Money... and power over money or from money, what ever it is you say.... are you trying to suggest that this country should be run with no thought to money and no control of money...... That will be the day Canada becomes a thrid world country with no government.