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Pope Francis: Abortion is never OK, equates it to 'hiring a hitman'
You can bet your boots that the Holy See has had a mountain of people hit over the last 1200 years.

A whole pile of dirt worshipping heathens.

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A whole pile of dirt worshipping heathens.

Protestants, Italian politicians, pregnant Nuns, whistle-blowing clergy, Jewish money-lenders, Knights Templar, competition for the Papacy Bishops, ....
Vatican: gender theory a bid to 'annihilate nature'
June 10, 2019
June 10, 2019 12:33 PM EDT
Pope Francis celebrates the Pentecost mass-vigil on June 8, 2019 in Saint Peter's square at the Vatican.Getty Images
VATICAN CITY — The Vatican condemned gender theory on Monday as part of a “confused concept of freedom,” saying in a new document that the idea of gender being determined by personal feeling rather than biology was an attempt to “annihilate nature.”
LGBT rights advocates denounced the 30-page document, called “Male and Female He Created Them,” as harmful and confusing, saying it would encourage hatred and bigotry.
The document, the Vatican’s first on gender theory, was written by the Congregation for Catholic Education as an “instruction” to Catholic educators on how to address the topic of gender theory in line with Church teaching.
Rainbow flags are seen at the Stonewall National Monument, the first LGBTQ national monument, dedicated to the birthplace of modern lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and queer civil rights movement on June 4, 2019 in New York City. Pride Month 2019 marks The Stonewall 50th Anniversary. Getty Images
It was released as lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people around the world have been celebrating “Pride Month” amid a surge in demands for acceptance of the idea that gender is more complex and fluid than the binary categories of male and female, and depends on more than visible sex characteristics.
“The concept of gender is seen as dependent upon the subjective mindset of each person, who can choose a gender not corresponding to his or her biological sex, and therefore with the way others see that person,” the Vatican booklet says.
It says gender theories are “often founded on nothing more than a confused concept of freedom in the realm of feelings and wants, or momentary desires provoked by emotional impulses and the will of the individual, as opposed to anything based on the truths of existence.”
Francis DeBernardo, executive director of New Ways Ministry, which seeks to reconcile LGBT Catholics and the institutional Church, called the booklet “a gross misrepresentation” of the lives of LGBT people that could encourage violence against them.
“The misinformation the document contains will cause families to reject their children, and it will increase alienation of LGBT people from the Church,” he said in a statement.
While the document is not signed by Pope Francis, it several times quotes from his speeches and teachings and those of previous popes. It was issued with little advance notice to reporters and without the customary news conference.
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It denounced theories that attempted to “annihilate the concept of nature” and “educational programs and legislative trends that … make a radical break with the actual biological difference between male and female.”
A prominent American Jesuit writer, Father James Martin, tweeted: “The document is mainly a dialog with philosophers and theologians, and with other church documents; but not with scientists and biologists, not with psychologists, and certainly not with LGBT people, whose experiences are given little if any weight.”
DeBernardo added: People do not choose their gender, as the Vatican claims: they discover it through their lived experiences. The Church should respect and encourage this process of discovery, because it is a process by which individuals discover the wonderful way that God has created them.”
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Pope Francis: Abortion is never OK, equates it to 'hiring a hitman'

Anybody in the audience ask him wtfuk he knows about 'hitmen'? and why, . . . and how many molested kids were also 'whacked', as the Pope would probably say.
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If the Clergy are the 'Patients' who is driving the bus?
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If the Clergy are the 'Patients' who is driving the bus?

You in the market for a job?

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