Heaven of heavens

Torch light
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Many words are mysterious to all people belonging to all religions: like
"heaven of heavens" in one of David psalms, the 'afterlife', the next life, the 'soul', the 'spirit', the Judgment, Heaven or Paradise, Hell, the angel, Genies .. etc.

All such words have been explained so clearly in the book Man after Death written in Arabic by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly: the apostle of the Christ .. this book has been translated to English by E A Nassir; it is displayed on the internet web in the link:
http://www.quran-ayat.com/man/index.htm
quran-ayat.com/man/index.htm

Any one reads this book and is convinced, will change his views about such vital subjects and will have a great knowledge surpassing much of the knowledge acquired by rabbis, clergies, imams and other religious persons.

E.g. "heaven of heavens' it means the "Throne" of the Lord: the Lord is God Almighty alone, and no lord or god other than God Almighty.
http://www.quran-ayat.com/universe/index.htm#Throne
quran-ayat.com/universe/index.htm#Throne
 
Johnnny
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Heaven is hell because it is full of ignorant people who can't think for themselves who live by a book that was written by someone else more ignorant.

Ignit
 
darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by Torch light View Post

Many words are mysterious to all people belonging to all religions: like
"heaven of heavens" in one of David psalms, the 'afterlife', the next life, the 'soul', the 'spirit', the Judgment, Heaven or Paradise, Hell, the angel, Genies .. etc.

All such words have been explained so clearly in the book Man after Death written in Arabic by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly: the apostle of the Christ .. this book has been translated to English by E A Nassir; it is displayed on the internet web in the link:
http://www.quran-ayat.com/man/index.htm
quran-ayat.com/man/index.htm

Any one reads this book and is convinced, will change his views about such vital subjects and will have a great knowledge surpassing much of the knowledge acquired by rabbis, clergies, imams and other religious persons.

E.g. "heaven of heavens' it means the "Throne" of the Lord: the Lord is God Almighty alone, and no lord or god other than God Almighty.
http://www.quran-ayat.com/universe/index.htm#Throne
quran-ayat.com/universe/index.htm#Throne


I know I,ve been here many times before, and I just can,t get it right so far, but the oportunitys are endless, as are reincarnations, we all must pass or repeat. I have endured many incarnations and fukked up every time.
 
Curious Cdn
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The Nirvana of that guy.
 
Cliffy
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Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver View Post

I know I,ve been here many times before, and I just can,t get it right so far, but the oportunitys are endless, as are reincarnations, we all must pass or repeat. I have endured many incarnations and fukked up every time.

 
Curious Cdn
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#6
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

Hey!

We're getting somewhere!

Last time around it was "Earthworm" until that kid stuck a hook in my middle.
 
Torch light
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver View Post

I know I,ve been here many times before, and I just can,t get it right so far, but the oportunitys are endless, as are reincarnations, we all must pass or repeat. I have endured many incarnations and fukked up every time.

The 'reincarnation' is only an illusion; some Jews and others believe in the reincarnation .. which is not told to them by God.
Man lives in this life of the World, then will die and will live with his spiritual soul not with his material body.
This life of the World is the examination and checking of man, so as to live in the next life according to his belief or disbelief in God in addition to his work: whether it is righteous or evil and sinful .. so that he will get what he deserves.
God - be glorified - has given enough time for man to live in his material life of the World to choose and to strive in order to attain for his next life: the everlasting spiritual life.

http://www.quran-ayat.com/man/1.htm#...igration_of_so
quran-ayat.com/man/1.htm#No_reincarnation_or_transmigration_of_so
 
Torch light
#8
Moreover, see this aya of the Quran 23: 112, which means:
(112. He [The angel] will say [,in the Next Life, to those who deny the sending to the Next Life]:
"For how long have you tarried in the earth, by number of years
a ?")
.................................................. ............................

112 a Why didn’t you think, receive admonition and work in advance of your Next Life.

http://quran-ayat.com/pret/23.htm#a23_112
quran-ayat.com/pret/23.htm#a23_112
 
Torch light
#9
The following ayat 23: 113-115, mean:
(113. They will say: "We have tarried merely a day or part of a day, but inquire of those who count [the days.]"

114. [The angel] will say: "You have not tarried [in the life of the World] but a little [in relation to the Next Life], if only you had known [the truth, the love of the life of the World would not have distracted you from the Next Life.]"

115. "Did you think that We created you aimlessly, and that you would not return to Us [following your death!?]")

More explanation in the link:
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/23.htm#a23_113
quran-ayat.com/pret/23.htm#a23_113
 
Torch light
#10
Jews and many Christians (and Muslims) believe in many false doctrines like 'the reincarnation', the 'transmigration, the nirvana', the 'Karma' and even they may believe in the statues and idols of the ancient .. but may never believe in the truth of the Quran .. this is on account of their misguidance and their arrogance.
 
Johnnny
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Quote: Originally Posted by Torch light View Post

Jews and many Christians (and Muslims) believe in many false doctrines like 'the reincarnation', the 'transmigration, the nirvana', the 'Karma' and even they may believe in the statues and idols of the ancient .. but may never believe in the truth of the Quran .. this is on account of their misguidance and their arrogance.

What god given right makes you the architect of people's fate of life after death?
 
Torch light
#12
God's religion is the Islam, the latest religion revealed to the latest Prophet Mohammed sent by God Most Gracious to guide people to the 'exclusive devotion to God alone' without associate or son.

Therefore, anyone who does not believe in the Islam religion will lose in the Next Life because he denied the apostle of God Mohammed and the Quran revealed to him.

Quran 3: 85, which means:
(Anyone seeks any religion, other than the Islam, [his righteous work] will not be accepted from him [because the past religions were altered g ],

and he shall, in the Next Life, be of those who lose [the prosperity of Paradise.
h ])
.................................................. .............................

85 g By the hand of the ‘chiefs of sects’ and by the ‘scholars of error and misguidance’; so that they changed and altered with their desires, and then said: This is what God commanded and instructed in His Torah; but they were liars against God, for the purpose of their personal advantages and for the wealth and position.

While the Islam religion is the true religion which God commanded people to follow in the past and at the present time, because it is the standard religion till Doomsday; and its followers do not worship idols as did you, Jews, worship, and as did you, Christians, claim about the Trinity, while Muslims exclusively devote themselves to God alone.

85 h So that anyone who seeks any religion other than the Islam, will lose the prosperity of Paradise.

http://quran-ayat.com/pret/3.htm#a3_85
quran-ayat.com/pret/3.htm#a3_85
 
MHz
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by Johnnny View Post

Heaven is hell because it is full of ignorant people who can't think for themselves who live by a book that was written by someone else more ignorant.

Ignit

Matthew:25 says people who can feed the hungry but don't will end up there. Here is a longer version of what it takes for a person to end up in the grave and remain awake. That also makes them immortal like Jesus was when He went to the grave for a few days.

Isa:65:1-14:
I am sought of them that asked not for me;
I am found of them that sought me not:
I said,
Behold me,
behold me,
unto a nation that was not called by my name.
I have spread out my hands all the day unto a rebellious people,
which walketh in a way that was not good,
after their own thoughts;
A people that provoketh me to anger continually to my face;
that sacrificeth in gardens,
and burneth incense upon altars of brick;
Which remain among the graves,
and lodge in the monuments,
which eat swine's flesh,
and broth of abominable things is in their vessels;
Which say,
Stand by thyself,
come not near to me;
for I am holier than thou.
These are a smoke in my nose,
a fire that burneth all the day.
Behold,
it is written before me:
I will not keep silence,
but will recompense,
even recompense into their bosom,
Your iniquities,
and the iniquities of your fathers together,
saith the LORD,
which have burned incense upon the mountains,
and blasphemed me upon the hills:
therefore will I measure their former work into their bosom.
Thus saith the LORD,
As the new wine is found in the cluster,
and one saith,
Destroy it not;
for a blessing is in it:
so will I do for my servants' sakes,
that I may not destroy them all.
And I will bring forth a seed out of Jacob,
and out of Judah an inheritor of my mountains:
and mine elect shall inherit it,
and my servants shall dwell there.
And Sharon shall be a fold of flocks,
and the valley of Achor a place for the herds to lie down in,
for my people that have sought me.
But ye are they that forsake the LORD,
that forget my holy mountain,
that prepare a table for that troop,
and that furnish the drink offering unto that number.
Therefore will I number you to the sword,
and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter:
because when I called,
ye did not answer;
when I spake,
ye did not hear;
but did evil before mine eyes,
and did choose that wherein I delighted not.
Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD,
Behold,
my servants shall eat,
but ye shall be hungry:
behold,
my servants shall drink,
but ye shall be thirsty:
behold,
my servants shall rejoice,
but ye shall be ashamed:
Behold,
my servants shall sing for joy of heart,
but ye shall cry for sorrow of heart,
and shall howl for vexation of spirit.
 
MHz
#14
Quote: Originally Posted by Johnnny View Post

What god given right makes you the architect of people's fate of life after death?

You have the right to show how you are exempted from his version of the future. If Jesus turns out to have not been raised from the grave then this is what I should do about it. Do you have a 'plan b' for the return being a literal event?

1Co:15:32:
If after the manner of men I have fought with beasts at Ephesus,
what advantageth it me,
if the dead rise not?
let us eat and drink;
for to morrow we die.
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Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by Torch light View Post

God's religion is the Islam, the latest religion revealed to the latest Prophet Mohammed sent by God Most Gracious to guide people to the 'exclusive devotion to God alone' without associate or son.
Therefore, anyone who does not believe in the Islam religion will lose in the Next Life because he denied the apostle of God Mohammed and the Quran revealed to him.
Quran 3: 85, which means:
(Anyone seeks any religion, other than the Islam, [his righteous work] will not be accepted from him [because the past religions were altered g ],
and he shall, in the Next Life, be of those who lose [the prosperity of Paradise.
h ])
.................................................. .............................
85 g By the hand of the ‘chiefs of sects’ and by the ‘scholars of error and misguidance’; so that they changed and altered with their desires, and then said: This is what God commanded and instructed in His Torah; but they were liars against God, for the purpose of their personal advantages and for the wealth and position.
While the Islam religion is the true religion which God commanded people to follow in the past and at the present time, because it is the standard religion till Doomsday; and its followers do not worship idols as did you, Jews, worship, and as did you, Christians, claim about the Trinity, while Muslims exclusively devote themselves to God alone.
85 h So that anyone who seeks any religion other than the Islam, will lose the prosperity of Paradise.
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/3.htm#a3_85
quran-ayat.com/pret/3.htm#a3_85

God's religion is God's religion ... not the primitive tribal practices of covetous, desert dwelling nomads.
 
Torch light
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

God's religion is God's religion ... not the primitive tribal practices of covetous, desert dwelling nomads.

desert.. covetous .. primitive tribal!! What's all this vain talk!?
Your ancestors were nomads in the desert in fact, if you don't know .. and the nomads of the desert may be better in morale and logical thinking than many urban people.

Therefore, it is not the desert or urban that is the important, but the correct belief and conduct, whether man is rich or poor, short or long, black or white or yellow, and whether he lives in the desert mounting on his camel or in New York City riding in his car.

By the way; I read, for amusement, some novels by some early American writers like Edgar Rice Burroughs to find it full with hatred and rancor towards the Arab and Muslims .. and certainly this and similar novels will lead to occupying the minds of people with hatred and rancor towards the Arab and Muslims by imaging them as wild, savages and immoral people .. which suits the desire of the Wicked Zionists in particular.
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by Torch light View Post

desert.. covetous .. primitive tribal!! What's all this vain talk!?
Your ancestors were nomads in the desert in fact, if you don't know .. and the nomads of the desert may be better in morale and logical thinking than many urban people.
Therefore, it is not the desert or urban that is the important, but the correct belief and conduct, whether man is rich or poor, short or long, black or white or yellow, and whether he lives in the desert mounting on his camel or in New York City riding in his car.
By the way; I read, for amusement, some novels by some early American writers like Edgar Rice Burroughs to find it full with hatred and rancor towards the Arab and Muslims .. and certainly this and similar novels will lead to occupying the minds of people with hatred and rancor towards the Arab and Muslims by imaging them as wild, savages and immoral people .. which suits the desire of the Wicked Zionists in particular.

As long as you persist in acting like savages, you will be perceived as savages and treated like savages.

Allah is talking to you and none of you are listening. Those wicked Zionists are doing rather better than your lot and must therefore, have Allah's favour.
 
MHz
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Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

As long as you persist in acting like savages, you will be perceived as savages and treated like savages.

Allah is talking to you and none of you are listening. Those wicked Zionists are doing rather better than your lot and must therefore, have Allah's favour.

They make up less that 1% of the population and the ratio is getting smaller rather than bigger, if you can't figure out what time will do i will let you see that through hind-sight.

May the best liar and the most immoral player win?? Killing people with diseases while running the flag (Do no harm) for their doctors does not make them 'gods' it makes them 'demons'. and that is who you want running things?? You are part of the problem obviously.

When a groups kills many millions just to advance their own small agenda is that a sign they should be removed from power or given more power? The Rothschild Bankers and Co are who I am referencing here. When the leaders only care about 3% of the people it is time for them to step aside, if they were as great as they say they are they would do it all on their own. They has 200 years to do that in South Africa, 1950 shows there was zero progress in an attempt to allow the black majority to have any control over what a small number of European Jews had. Perhaps the depth of their true wisdom is less that advertised.
 
DaSleeper
#19
Conspiracy FOOL!
 
DaSleeper
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Cliffy
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