Environmental Activism Stagnating Our Economy


Nick Danger
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http://http://business.financialpost...ed-development

A very interesting read on how indiscriminate blanket opposition for expansion in the Oil & Gas industry is hindering Canada's economic recovery. I think it's as plain as the noses on our faces that the days of burning fossil fuels are numbered, but for the time being the key word is "compromise" as the boisterous economy needed to finance the green renaissance can at this time only come from active exploitation of our natural resources.
 
mentalfloss
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Fukk the economy.

We'll be fine.
Last edited by mentalfloss; Dec 9th, 2016 at 11:09 AM..
 
Nick Danger
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

We'll be fine.

Wishful thinking. For the most part environmentalists, while well-meaning, haven't thought the issue through. The conundrum here is that we desperately need the money that the oil and gas industry can put on the table in order to successfully ween the country off the oil and gas industry. Alternatives to the burning of fossil fuels are no where near widely available enough to support the shutdown of the oilsands, which is what all the chanting and drumming is asking for. It's short sighted and irresponsible and is already causing more trouble than it's preventing.
 
mentalfloss
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Nah.

It's a small tax, nothing like the kind of tariffs Trump is proposing.


Just look at Ontario.


Our standard of living is quite good here and conbots have been complaining about our economy for over a decade.


Sorry economic alarmists, you're just shouting at the wind now.
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
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That is why 15% of the people in Ontario are happy with the job of our current premier.
 
mentalfloss
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Yes.

That is why.
 
Nick Danger
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So, all these wonderful sources of green energy, who is going to pay for those ?
 
EagleSmack
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Frossy is simpry redickerous.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

Fukk the economy.

We'll be fine.

Of course. It'll be even better when climate climbs back up to average.

Why don't you want it to be average without costing a penny but only raking in the bucks?

You don't want a better life?
 
Scooby
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The "economy" is driven by an abundance of credit, not resource commodities exclusively. Blame the bankers and the politicians for the lack of good jobs. Wanting to preserve the planet is a respectable effort, even if some of them get a bit weird about it.
 
mentalfloss
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We'll be fine.
 
EagleSmack
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I know we will be. Canada... I'm not so sure.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

We'll be fine.

Until your mommy takes you naloxone away.
 
Hoof Hearted
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Global cooling was all the buzz in the 70's...then acid rain...then the Arctic is melting...then Y2K...then does David Suzuki have a family of wild ferrets living in his beard?...

Now the buzz word of the disenfranchised, jobless and homely-looking Left is 'Climate Change'.

The truth is, good-looking people make more money...live longer, happier lives...and tend to be Right on the political spectrum. This fact of life disturbs the 'Plain Janes' of this earth, so they gather and hunt in packs on the Left of the political spectrum to try to counter-balance reality.

The ultimate goal is a redistribution of wealth to haggardly-looking layabouts who couldn't even pass a Walmart Greeter job interview.
 
Curious Cdn
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Let's go back to whaling! Sperm whale oil is an incredibly rare and valuable lubricant and, besides, it'll bring jobs back to Atlantic Canada.

There's money to be made, man and it's our natural right as top species to make as much of it as we can until every last one of those dirty big liberal-loving fish are gone!
 
pgs
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Quote: Originally Posted by Nick Danger View Post

Wishful thinking. For the most part environmentalists, while well-meaning, haven't thought the issue through. The conundrum here is that we desperately need the money that the oil and gas industry can put on the table in order to successfully ween the country off the oil and gas industry. Alternatives to the burning of fossil fuels are no where near widely available enough to support the shutdown of the oilsands, which is what all the chanting and drumming is asking for. It's short sighted and irresponsible and is already causing more trouble than it's preventing.

Why do you think Notley and Trudeau are all of a sudden in favor of pipelines ?
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

Why do you think Notley and Trudeau are all of a sudden in favor of pipelines ?

They need the tax revenue from petroleum exports, and fast!
 
Nick Danger
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Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

Why do you think Notley and Trudeau are all of a sudden in favor of pipelines ?

Obviously because they realize the importance of oil & gas revenues and taxes to getting the economy back on track. What other reason could there be? Neither of them were huge fans of the oil & gas industry in the past, it's the reality of our situation that is forcing this compromise.
 
Remington1
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It's unrealistic to stagnate an economy for whatever reason, people suffer, not politicians. When making changes which has a significant impact, a transitioning team makes sure that a replacement is ready to go to minimize any negative impact. I'm glad Manitoba and Sask didn't sign, of course JT pushed it threw anyway, but it's a betrayal, not a victory. Definitely not the right time for families to have to pay more to live.
 
Nick Danger
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http://business.financialpost.com/fe...ed-development

Sorry, I didn't realize that the link in the original was broken. The issue at hand in the article is not carbon taxation, but the blocking of infrastructure projects.
 
Nick Danger
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Most recently notable in this category are the federal approvals of the Kinder Morgan/Trans Mountain and Line 3 expansions. Environmental activists have taken this as a rallying cry to ramp up resistance, despite the obvious benefits these improvements could bring. I really don't think these people have thought their positions through in that environmental reform is going to cost money. Lots of money. And that money has to come from somewhere. I'd like to hear where those supporting the demise of the oil & gas industry think that money is going to come from ?
 
EagleSmack
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#22  Top Rated Post
I feel bad that Canada and the EU are going to have to carry this burden for China and India.
 
DaSleeper
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Our share (Canada) of (GHG) emissions in the world is 1.6%........yet Flossie's hero, Trou d'eau is all gung-ho to make a big difference..
We're just the proverbial drop in the bucket....
The guy just can't resist a photo-op
A wh0re for attention like Flossie and his current sock puppet.....
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post

Our share (Canada) of (GHG) emissions in the world is 1.6%........yet Flossie's hero, Trou d'eau is all gung-ho to make a big difference..
We're just the proverbial drop in the bucket....
The guy just can't resist a photo-op
A wh0re for attention like Flossie and his current sock puppet.....

Flossy is just a butthurt troll.

The serious part is that Trudeau is perfectly will to sacrifice Canada's economy for a myth.
 
captain morgan
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Ontario's provincial debt; $313,707,500.00

Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

Just look at Ontario.

No thanks.... Rubber-necking at train wrecks is a bad habit

Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post

The guy just can't resist a photo-op
A wh0re for attention like Flossie and his current sock puppet.....

Sadly, he is refusing to wear his hockey helmet these days.

... Brain injuries are a very serious issue
 
mentalfloss
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Debt is meaningless.

Just look at Trump's plan to increase the US debt by 5x.
 
captain morgan
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Hardly.

Mr. Wynne has been increasing and inventing new taxes to service your debt.
 
Nick Danger
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Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post

Our share (Canada) of (GHG) emissions in the world is 1.6%....

So that's a ticket to ignore the issue completely ?
 
captain morgan
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In light of the major emitters (if you buy into this bunk, that is), yeah, crushing the economy over 1.6% doesn't make sense.
 
pgs
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Quote: Originally Posted by Nick Danger View Post

So that's a ticket to ignore the issue completely ?

Well we are closing our coal plants which is good , however we are still selling our coal to China , how does that help ?
 

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