Did the USSR collapse because it was a bad thing?


loveeachother
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Some people say that it was only bad during Stalin's regime and that the USSR had all sorts of good things as well and that that I was fed Western propaganda and the USSR wasn't really all that bad....... is that true?
 
bill barilko
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#2
Learn some Russian then visit the country and speak to the older generation you'll find views are very mixed.
 
B00Mer
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#3
You know Sonny, you should learn better how to start a thread..

Your title gives you away.
 
loveeachother
#4
Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

You know Sonny, you should learn better how to start a thread..

Your title gives you away.

Here, a lot of people are angry and want the very people you are trying to defend dead:

American troops crushed Philippine rebellion | Philippine American War
 
Jinentonix
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#5
It's back again. Yeah dewd, guys like Khrushchev and Brezhnev were just lots of laughs. And the NKVD were just a bunch of misunderstood choir boys.
 
Jinentonix
+1
#6
Quote: Originally Posted by loveeachother View Post

Here, a lot of people are angry and want the very people you are trying to defend dead:

American troops crushed Philippine rebellion | Philippine American War

Yeah, those atrocities can really come back to haunt you.


A detachment, marching through Leyte, found an American who had disappeared a short time before, crucified head down. His abdominal wall had been carefully opened so that his intestines hung down in his face. Another American prisoner, found on the same trip, had been buried in the ground with only his head projecting. His mouth had been propped open with a stick, a trail of sugar laid to it through the forest, and a handful thrown into his mouth. Millions of ants had done the rest.


Go f*ck yourself.
 
loveeachother
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Quote: Originally Posted by Jinentonix View Post

A detachment, marching through Leyte, found an American who had disappeared a short time before, crucified head down. His abdominal wall had been carefully opened so that his intestines hung down in his face. Another American prisoner, found on the same trip, had been buried in the ground with only his head projecting. His mouth had been propped open with a stick, a trail of sugar laid to it through the forest, and a handful thrown into his mouth. Millions of ants had done the rest.

Good! They deserve that! They shouldn't have been there in the first place anyway!

Quote: Originally Posted by Jinentonix View Post

Go f*ck yourself.

Your pitiful insults don't hurt me! And no! You should go fudge yourself for defending a bunch of terrorists!
 
loveeachother
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#8
The few of you canucks here defend them because you haven't experienced their cruelty!

Try putting yourselves in the shoes of the people they have harmed!
 
Blackleaf
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#9
The collapse of Communism in the USSR's neighbouring countries was one reason for the break-up of the USSR.

The collapse encouraged Ukraine to be the first to secede, on 24th August 1991. This led to a domino effect: Belarus seceded the next day, followed by Moldova two days later and Kyrgyzstan four days after that. Several more left in the succeeding weeks. Russia left on 12th December followed by Kazakhstan on 16th.

There's a cautionary tale in this for the EU, with Brexit being like Ukraine's secession from the USSR. Ukraine was also the second largest member state of the USSR, just as Britain was the second largest of the EU.
Last edited by Blackleaf; Feb 15th, 2020 at 08:22 AM..
 
taxslave
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#10  Top Rated Post
USSR collapsed because communism is a bad idea.
 
Walter
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Phuk-off, Avro.
 
Dixie Cup
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Quote: Originally Posted by loveeachother View Post

Some people say that it was only bad during Stalin's regime and that the USSR had all sorts of good things as well and that that I was fed Western propaganda and the USSR wasn't really all that bad....... is that true?



My grand parents came from the Ukraine who was under the thumb of the USSR and things were not great! Starvation was the norm, labour camps were also the norm - you could be arrested based on someone else's complaint - even if it wasn't true. There was no "court" to determine your guilt or innocence - you were automatically guilty. Maybe a "bribe" will get you out of trouble but most people couldn't afford to pay anything.


I simply don't understand why people are too lazy to take the time to look up the Marxist ideology - which simply doesn't work because there is no incentive for people to work because they've been told that the "government" will look after you - NOT!! The only thing the government does is look after themselves at the expense of their citizens.


What needs to happen is the prosecuting "crony capitalism" because capitalism in and of itself isn't bad - it's the corrupt people who use it to advantage themselves and disadvantage regular folk.


Most people under capitalism do extremely well and have actually been "lifted up" under capitalism. I know because my family was extremely poor when I grew up but capitalism offered us a way out and all of us kids have done well under it.


People will NOT be better off under socialism; it's too bad they can't see what the future under socialism will yield. Not something they expected, that's for sure!!
 
Blackleaf
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#13
One difference between the EU and the USSR, despite some similarities, is that the EU is anti-Socialist and large-scale governmental Socialist policies are illegal. That's why back in the Seventies and Eighties the British Left wanted Brexit. That's why Corbyn has long been a Brexiteer. Much of the modern British Left - Labour, Lib Dems, SNP - seem to have forgotten that inconvenient fact and didn't want us to leave, even though the EU would have prevented them from carrying out many of their Socialist policies. Now outside the EU, British governments are free to carry out whatever policies they are democratically elected to implement.
 
Jinentonix
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Quote: Originally Posted by loveeachother View Post

Good! They deserve that! They shouldn't have been there in the first place anyway!


Too bad your Spanish ancestors were such f*cking pussies. The US tried invading Canada and got their asses kicked, all 3 times.
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Tell a friend
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-- Apologies to Eminem
 
AnnaE
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#16
Get a life.
 
spilledthebeer
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Quote: Originally Posted by loveeachother View Post

Here, a lot of people are angry and want the very people you are trying to defend dead:

American troops crushed Philippine rebellion | Philippine American War


Here is a funny story about Yankee so called Imperialism!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In 1900 as many know -The Philippines was occupied by Spain.....................


until Yankees drove the Spanish out..........................


to the delight of Filipinos.....................


but Yankees then took over......................


to the DISGUST of Filipinos...........................


but Yankees LATER repented of their actions and MADE ARRANGEMENTS FOR PHILIPPINE INDEPENDENCE...............



which delighted Filipinos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Too bad Imperial Japan invaded and spoiled the plans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Those who know history will know that Yankee general MacArthur went on the radio just before being evacuated to Australia............


in 1942 - to ASSURE THE FILIPINO PEOPLE THAT "HE WOULD RETURN"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


ONE MIGHT ASK WHY IN HELL FILIPINOS WOULD CARE IF A YANKEE GENERAL CAME BACK????????????????


And the simple answer is that Yankees were MORE TRUSTED THAN JAPANESE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yankees made The Philippines into a colony..............................


Imperial Japan turned Filipinos into starving slave labourers and into sex slaves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The truth is that capitalism and democracy - imperfect as they are.........................


have done MORE FOR THE PEOPLE OF THIS PLANET.....................


THAN ANY OTHER SYSTEM - by far!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And it is worth noting that Japan attacked United States..............................


simply because Yankees refused to sell Japan any more oil or steel..................................


because of the ATROCITIES JAPANESE MILITARY WAS COMMITTING IN CHINA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If you have to be occupied by somebody...................................


then PICK ENGLISH SPEAKERS EVERY TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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