Conservatives and Liberals end 2014 neck and neck


Locutus
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Lorrie GoldsteinVerified account ‏@sunlorrie

Translation: Nobody knows nothin': Conservatives/Liberals end 2014 neck & neck, Harper’s numbers improve Abacus Data


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December 23, 2014 By Bruce Anderson & David Coletto

Download all the details The year 2014 ends with a tightly competitive race between the federal Liberals and the Conservative Party of Canada. The two parties are within a point of each other, (CPC 34%; LPC 33%).

The trend lines we see over the period since March should provide some seasonal cheer for Conservatives, who have gained six points over the last ten months. Liberal and NDP support is roughly the same in December as it was in March of this year.




rave on mad folks.

Conservatives and Liberals end 2014 neck and neck as Harper’s personal numbers improve | Abacus Data
 
Walter
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Why didn't Analfloss post this?
 
waldo
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Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Why didn't Analfloss post this?

Analfloss? Really???

but Walter, for some strange reason member 'Locutus' felt buoyed enough to create a whole thread on this single poll... the normal/traditional polling updates have been applied in the other thread... you know, the other thread that usually reflects upon 308 aggregate polling, albeit there are occasional single poll references there, as well. In any case, 308 aggregate polling does include that latest Abacus poll that has so pumped member 'Locutus'; as below:

 
Angstrom
No Party Affiliation
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If the tendency continues will have a conservative majority government next election.
 
Sal
No Party Affiliation
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and the winner is.............

and some will wet their pants with happiness and others will b*tch and whine

and

everything will stay almost the same as it has always been
 
Canbyte
No Party Affiliation
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Can' help thinking that 'toe to toe' is better than 'neck to neck. Let's play footsy y'all.
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
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Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Why didn't Analfloss post this?

Clearly he was more concerned with Ms. Wynn's deficit in Ontario and didn't have time.
 
Colpy
Conservative
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Quote: Originally Posted by waldo View Post

Analfloss? Really???

but Walter, for some strange reason member 'Locutus' felt buoyed enough to create a whole thread on this single poll... the normal/traditional polling updates have been applied in the other thread... you know, the other thread that usually reflects upon 308 aggregate polling, albeit there are occasional single poll references there, as well. In any case, 308 aggregate polling does include that latest Abacus poll that has so pumped member 'Locutus'; as below:


You have a point.

The greater point being that polls mean nothing, especially ten months ahead of an election.

But, if you wanna pretend they are relevant, then they clearly indicate a slip in Liberal support, and a strengthening of Conservative support.

And you know that in the election cycle there will be debates......between Harper and Mulcair.......and Justin, who lacks the brains and the debating skills to perform well against either.

And he has written off any possibility of a coalition.

So, Conservative victory seems likely in 2015.

Only real question: Conservative minority or Conservative majority?
 
Colpy
Conservative
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Andrew Perez: In 2015, a coalition government is totally plausible. But is it desirable? | National Post
 
Locutus
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Harper approval rating on the rise, poll suggests - The Globe and Mail
 
Machjo
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I like my 2015 Liberal candidate so far. I'll wait and see what the competition has to offer. Right now I have an NDP MP.

Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

You have a point.

The greater point being that polls mean nothing, especially ten months ahead of an election.

But, if you wanna pretend they are relevant, then they clearly indicate a slip in Liberal support, and a strengthening of Conservative support.

And you know that in the election cycle there will be debates......between Harper and Mulcair.......and Justin, who lacks the brains and the debating skills to perform well against either.

And he has written off any possibility of a coalition.

So, Conservative victory seems likely in 2015.

Only real question: Conservative minority or Conservative majority?

Trudeau has closed the door on a coalition? I must have missed that, but not a smart move on his part. The Liberals sitting in the middle would be in an ideal position to form a coalition with either CPC or NDP. Now I could see some Liberals leaving their caucus over this under the right conditions.
 
Colpy
Conservative
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Hmmmm....seems the NDP are not turning their backs on a coalition........

Coalition in 2015? Maybe, says NDP Leader Tom Mulcair - National | Globalnews.ca

And we know Justin is a liar, so we must assume a coalition will be the probable result of a Conservative minority.

During the campaign, Harper should push the possibility hard.............make Justin disavow the possibility in the most definitive manner, make it politically unfeasible for him.
 
relic
Free Thinker
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Yeah, and steve is the epitome of honesty and transparency
 
darkbeaver
Republican
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Someone mentioned the neck to neck characterization. it's perfect, these beasts are saddled with packs promised of delivery and ridden hard on the canvas track until they are wet and foaming, all for the entertainment of the gambling public. Glue bags the lot of them, dog food. The horse is insulted for in reality these are rats who are trained to press levers for tiny chunks of yum yums.
 
Colpy
Conservative
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Quote: Originally Posted by relic View Post

Yeah, and steve is the epitome of honesty and transparency

Everything is relative, and compared to Justin, Mr. Harper is not only "the epitome of honesty and transparency", but a bloody genius as well.

Conservatives lead rival parties in fundraising ahead of 2015 election - The Globe and Mail

Gotta say, I think the people that donate are more apt to vote than those that do not......and the Conservatives are doing well with donations.
 
Angstrom
No Party Affiliation
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A liberal minority or a conservative minority would serve Canada well.
 
Colpy
Conservative
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Quote: Originally Posted by Angstrom View Post

A liberal minority or a conservative minority would serve Canada well.

A Liberal minority would see Justin Trudeau as PM, with Mulcair as puppet master.

If that doesn't scare you, nothing will.
 
captain morgan
No Party Affiliation
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Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

A Liberal minority would see Justin Trudeau as PM, with Mulcair as puppet master.

If that doesn't scare you, nothing will.

I don't believe that Mulcair will agree to play second fiddle to Justine and Trudeau is too much of an egomaniac to let Mulcair take the lead
 
Angstrom
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Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

A Liberal minority would see Justin Trudeau as PM, with Mulcair as puppet master.

If that doesn't scare you, nothing will.

It would give Justin, the chance to learn. Or the chance for us to learn to not trust him.
Anything unreasonable would get the government overthrown.

I do not fear that.
 
Canbyte
No Party Affiliation
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Wow! This thread reads like an opportunity for folk to spout meaninglessly. Looks like I'm at home.
 
Angstrom
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Quote: Originally Posted by Canbyte View Post

Wow! This thread reads like an opportunity for folk to spout meaninglessly. Looks like I'm at home.

Welcome home brother.
 
waldo
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Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

And we know Justin is a liar, so we must assume a coalition will be the probable result of a Conservative minority.

why do you keep repeating this? Again, NO Coaltion, pre-election... what might happen after election results is a completely different scenario/undertaking. What could be sweeter than to see Harper Conservatives, once again, in a complete meltdown screaming "coup d'etat"... traveling coast-to-coast waiing on about "the election has been stolen from you"... "no respect for democracy"... "your votes have been high-jacked"...
 
Colpy
Conservative
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Quote: Originally Posted by waldo View Post

why do you keep repeating this? Again, NO Coaltion, pre-election... what might happen after election results is a completely different scenario/undertaking. What could be sweeter than to see Harper Conservatives, once again, in a complete meltdown screaming "coup d'etat"... traveling coast-to-coast waiing on about "the election has been stolen from you"... "no respect for democracy"... "your votes have been high-jacked"...

So, you like not knowing who you are voting for in the PM's office?

You enjoy being lied to by Justin?

At least Mulcair is honest, and does not rule it out. If Justin did the same, I would have nothing to complain about, would I?

I know, "progressives" have a basic lack of ability to understand democracy.....something like their inherent inability to understand the written word.

Personally, I like a party's policies to be laid out in their platform before the election, so I know what I'm voting for............
 
waldo
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Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

So, you like not knowing who you are voting for in the PM's office?

You enjoy being lied to by Justin?

At least Mulcair is honest, and does not rule it out. If Justin did the same, I would have nothing to complain about, would I?

I know, "progressives" have a basic lack of ability to understand democracy.....something like their inherent inability to understand the written word.

Personally, I like a party's policies to be laid out in their platform before the election, so I know what I'm voting for............

well, of course, unless you're in a respective leader's riding, none of us are, as you say, "voting for in the PMs office". Not sure why you struggle so much with a simple statement that declares a coalition is not being considered pre-election. You're also fully aware that coalitions, post-election, are a facet of Westminster Parliamentary process... they're not undemocratic no matter how loud and forceful Harper Conservatives say they are!
 
Colpy
Conservative
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Quote: Originally Posted by waldo View Post

well, of course, unless you're in a respective leader's riding, none of us are, as you say, "voting for in the PMs office". Not sure why you struggle so much with a simple statement that declares a coalition is not being considered pre-election. You're also fully aware that coalitions, post-election, are a facet of Westminster Parliamentary process... they're not undemocratic no matter how loud and forceful Harper Conservatives say they are!

Sigh

If the Conservatives are elected, then the leader of that Party, (Mr. Harper) will be PM.....so when I vote for a CPC candidate, I am putting Harper in the PM's chair.

"Not sure why you struggle so much with a simple statement that declares a coalition is not being considered pre-election."

Man you really need to tackle that reading comprehension problem.

Quote:

Coalition with the NDP
There is constant political speculation about what Mr. Trudeau will do if Mr. Harper is re-elected with a minority government . Will Mr. Trudeau topple the Tories in Parliament and form a coalition government with the NDP’s Tom Mulcair?
“There are some very, very big impediments to forming a coalition with the NDP. Which is why I am against it.” He said the two parties are miles apart on issues such as international trade and the Constitution.
“With regard to constitutional issues and Quebec, I don’t think we should be making it easier for the country to separate.”

Justin Trudeau rules out coalition with NDP, says ‘immediate action’ needed on climate change | National Post
 
Canbyte
No Party Affiliation
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Now we know where some want to stand (sorry, that should have been sit) but we don't know (I read) where they will sit (sorry. that should have been stand), or do we. Can't rely on anyone to act in the future where they say they will today. Best close eyes and stick something in. Yes that's it, stick something in.
 
waldo
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Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

Man you really need to tackle that reading comprehension problem.

nothing new within that year-end interview... again, a coalition is not being considered pre-election. The so-called impediments get worked out in a possible post-election coalition scenario... exactly what happens repeatedly in Europe where respective parties retain their separation and identity and strict structured contractual agreements are crafted to support working relations/positions.
 
Machjo
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Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

Sigh

If the Conservatives are elected, then the leader of that Party, (Mr. Harper) will be PM.....so when I vote for a CPC candidate, I am putting Harper in the PM's chair.

"Not sure why you struggle so much with a simple statement that declares a coalition is not being considered pre-election."

Man you really need to tackle that reading comprehension problem.



Justin Trudeau rules out coalition with NDP, says ‘immediate action’ needed on climate change | National Post

Are you saying you are happy to vote for a well paid bobblehead?
 
Colpy
Conservative
#29
Quote: Originally Posted by waldo View Post

nothing new within that year-end interview... again, a coalition is not being considered pre-election. The so-called impediments get worked out in a possible post-election coalition scenario... exactly what happens repeatedly in Europe where respective parties retain their separation and identity and strict structured contractual agreements are crafted to support working relations/positions.

Excuse me?

The question was, as I pointed out and then highlighted for you, what if Harper wins a minority??

Justin discounted the possibility of a coalition.

So, do you support a liar?

READING COMPREHENSION

Get a grip on it.

This is not Europe.

Quote: Originally Posted by Machjo View Post

Are you saying you are happy to vote for a well paid bobblehead?

I am saying I support by far the best party for the future of Canada.

More to the point, I do not support socialists or idiots.
 
Canbyte
No Party Affiliation
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Fact that Conservative John Tory won Mayoralty of Toronto rather than left winger Olivia Chow may be an indication of the way things are going. At the Federal level Harper's party could re-win government though what kind remains to see. Also whether Harper decides to follow his own edict of a 2015 election or he ekes it out to 2016 is his very interesting and as yet unspoken decision.
 

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