Suicide Bomber Kills 9 at Tel Aviv Eatery


Johnny Utah
#1

Suicide Bomber Kills 9 at Tel Aviv Eatery
April 17, 2006
EL AVIV, Israel - A Palestinian suicide bomber blew himself up outside a fast-food restaurant in a bustling area of Tel Aviv during the Passover holiday Monday, killing nine other people and wounding dozens in the deadliest Palestinian attack in more than a year.

The new Palestinian government, led by Hamas, called the attack a legitimate response to Israeli "aggression."

Israel said it held Hamas ultimately responsible — even though a different militant group, Islamic Jihad, claimed responsibility — and would respond "as necessary."

"We shall, of course, continue to use all means at our disposal to prevent every other attempt," Israeli Prime Minister-designate Ehud Olmert said.

Israeli defense chiefs were to consult later Monday, but security officials said a possible reoccupation of Gaza, the base of the new Hamas government, was not being considered.

The White House strongly condemned the attack, calling it "a despicable act of terror for which there is no excuse or justification."

A security guard posted outside the restaurant, the target of a suicide bombing in January, prevented Monday's bomber from entering the building, police said.

It was the first suicide attack in Israel since the Hamas militant group took over the Palestinian government 2 1/2 weeks ago. Hamas, which has killed hundreds of Israelis in attacks, has largely observed a cease-fire since February 2005.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060417/...NlYwMlJVRPUCUl


Hamas calls the suicide attack legitimate.

It doesn't matter if it was Islamic Jihad, Hamas, Hezbollah or any other Terrorist group who attack Israel because when Israel repsonds in a legitimate Strike of self defense they are the ones called Terrorists while the real Terrorists get a slap on the wrist.
Hypocrisy at it's finest.
 
Jersay
#2
This is f*ing stupid.

Israel gets a blank slate by you and its backers when it does something illegal, which it has in the past and when someone does something against it, and I codemn this attack, you turn your blind eye to Israeli actions that have caused this intifada to occur.

Hamas and other organizations have done things but Israel has done things as well, they are not perfect and it should be noted what they have done as well.
 
fuzzylogix
#3
Yup, Jersay, my momma always said, "Two wrongs dont make a right."
 
Jersay
#4
Not only in the repercusions that will occur. But in its history. Johnny and others will pretend to believe that Israel has its hands clean but in fact they are just as bloody and as illegal as the palestinians.
 
I think not
#5
I think that's the first time I ever heard you say that Jersay. You're right though, they are both at fault. That doesn't however make this bombing any less than vicious cowardly act.
 
Jersay
#6
AGreed.
 
EagleSmack
#7
But now when Israel retaliates the uproar will be much louder.

And believe me, they will retaliate.
 
diaeagle
Free Thinker
#8
Occupied Jerusalem - Israeli tanks on Monday bombarded residential areas in northern Gaza, killing and injuring a number of people, according to eyewitnesses and medical sources.

The indiscriminate bombardment comes only hours after a Palestinian human-bomber blew up himself among Jewish settlers in downtown Tel Aviv, killing nine people and wounding two dozen others.

Medical sources in Gaza said an Israeli tank shell hit a home in Beit Lahya in northern Gaza, killing Mamdouh Obeid, 16 and injuring five others.

The Israeli army killed as many as 21 Palestinians, including a number of children, in the past two weeks.

The Islamic Jihad organization, which took responsibility for the bombing in Tel Aviv, said it carried out the attack to avenge “the unending and unrelenting massacres of our people by the Israeli army.”

“They (Israel) have been committing a massacre every day, they murder our children while on their way to school, murder our farmers on their way to their farms and shoot our women on their way to give birth in hospital,” said one Islamic Jihad spokesman in the Gaza Strip.

“Their civilians are not more human than ours.”

Earlier, the Israeli army opened fire on Palestinian children and minors in Nablus, injuring sixteen people.

Foreign human rights activists in the northern West Bank town described the shooting as “totally unprovoked.”

“They just open fire on innocent children,” said Maria, an Italian peace volunteer.

The Israeli occupation army said soldiers acted in “self defense.” However, the Palestinian mayor of Nablus described the Israeli claim as “silly”

“They should know that foreign invaders can’t have a defender status. They are invaders and occupiers.”


this is happening every day.... but when palestinianes thinking or resist ISRAEL .. amearica crying.....
 
EagleSmack
#9
Occupied Jerusalem.

Who did Israel take Jerusalem from?
 
diaeagle
Free Thinker
#10
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack

Occupied Jerusalem.

Who did Israel take Jerusalem from?

from indigenous people........palestinian
 
EagleSmack
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by diaeagle

Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack

Occupied Jerusalem.

Who did Israel take Jerusalem from?

from indigenous people........palestinian

WRONG

The Israeli Army seized Jerusalem from Jordanian Forces in 1967 during the Six Day War.

The Jodanians didn't want to give Jerusalem to the Palestinians either.

You walked into that one. That was too easy.
 
diaeagle
Free Thinker
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack

Quote: Originally Posted by diaeagle

Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack

Occupied Jerusalem.

Who did Israel take Jerusalem from?

from indigenous people........palestinian

WRONG

The Israeli Army seized Jerusalem from Jordanian Forces in 1967 during the Six Day War.

The Jodanians didn't want to give Jerusalem to the Palestinians either.

You walked into that one. That was too easy.

yes it is easy.... but i think forgot SOMETHINF... Jordan had regent on Palestinian after israelian country had born on palestinian home at 1948... and Pals. and Jord. make union over lefted home....
wow ... you say that The Israeli Army seized Jerusalem from........
SO SO YOU CAN KNOW WHAT ISRAEL IS
 
Mad_Hatter
#13
Quote:

from indigenous people........palestinian

Some of the Israeli's are actually indigenous to the region as well-- Muslims and Jews co-existed quite wonderfully for some time.

It was after WWII, when Europe was obsessed with guilt over the holocaust, that they invited all European Jews to "Go home" and have their own state. This was when Palestians were a bit put out, they had been living their for generations, and were now being displayed by foreigners.
 
Johnny Utah
#14
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack

But now when Israel retaliates the uproar will be much louder.

And believe me, they will retaliate.

Sure the up roar will be louder when Israel responds because they are the bad guys and have no right to self defense against Acts of Terrorism.

Didn't you see the uproar when Israel killed the founder of Hamas? Blowing him up in his wheel chair with a missile real good, he was spread like mustard everywhere.

When Israel is attacked by Terrorists they are the bad guys deserving it, when Israel repsonds in self defense they are the bad guys. Hypocrisy at it's finest.
 
jimmoyer
#15
Actually the British tried to stop and limit
the tidal wave of Jews, even going as far as sinking
tankers and ships approaching shore and having
much less stringent limits on Arabs from other lands migrating to Transjordan, who found this land
to be much more sustainable than the
unproductive sand pit it used to be.
 
EagleSmack
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by diaeagle

Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack

Quote: Originally Posted by diaeagle

Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack

Occupied Jerusalem.

Who did Israel take Jerusalem from?

from indigenous people........palestinian

WRONG

The Israeli Army seized Jerusalem from Jordanian Forces in 1967 during the Six Day War.

The Jodanians didn't want to give Jerusalem to the Palestinians either.

You walked into that one. That was too easy.

yes it is easy.... but i think forgot SOMETHINF... Jordan had regent on Palestinian after israelian country had born on palestinian home at 1948... and Pals. and Jord. make union over lefted home....
wow ... you say that The Israeli Army seized Jerusalem from........
SO SO YOU CAN KNOW WHAT ISRAEL IS

Easy, Easy... settle down now. I know it is tougher to write your own opinions than it is to cut and paste biased dribble.

Jordan had full control of the West Bank prior to 1967. At the start of the Six Day War Jordanian Forces attacked Israeli Forces. At the outset the Israeli leadership called the Jodanian Govt. and asked them to cease fire knowing that Jordan mat stay out of the fight and may have attacked just to save face in the Arab world. The call for a cease fire was ignored and Jordanian Forces continued their attack into Israel. Israel responded by quickly regaining lost ground and pushed the Jordanians all the way to the Jordan River.

The bottom line is... Jordan controlled the West Bank and would not give the land to the Palestinians.

Who was the leader of Palestine before 1948? Careful now.
 
EagleSmack
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by Johnny Utah

Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack

But now when Israel retaliates the uproar will be much louder.

And believe me, they will retaliate.

Sure the up roar will be louder when Israel responds because they are the bad guys and have no right to self defense against Acts of Terrorism.

Didn't you see the uproar when Israel killed the founder of Hamas? Blowing him up in his wheel chair with a missile real good, he was spread like mustard everywhere.

When Israel is attacked by Terrorists they are the bad guys deserving it, when Israel repsonds in self defense they are the bad guys. Hypocrisy at it's finest.

That was a nice shot wasn't it.

When Israel started targeting Hamas leaders they were asked to stop. They were told they were antagonizing the issue. Can you believe that! They were told not to kill the leaders who planned attacks night and day against Israel.

My favorite one was the bomb in the cell phone. They managed to get a cell phone in the hands of a Hamas leader. When it rang the terrorist leader answered and he heard

"Long live Israel"

That was the last thing he heard. The phone exploded.
 
diaeagle
Free Thinker
#18
Quote: Originally Posted by jimmoyer

Actually the British tried to stop and limit
the tidal wave of Jews, even going as far as sinking
tankers and ships approaching shore and having
much less stringent limits on Arabs from other lands migrating to Transjordan, who found this land
to be much more sustainable than the
unproductive sand pit it used to be.

yes i agreed with you in this..... but do you think the justice that the jews gather themself on some area that have indigenous people.... i think you cant answer me .... why? because you have anti-palestinain...anti-arabs....anti-islamic concepts...
so i sure you will say diaeagle is anti-israel....but i have to tell you if you have home and some one stolen something from you ...you will fight for that... and be sure everything taken by force cant be regain without force.....
 
Johnny Utah
#19
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack

Quote: Originally Posted by Johnny Utah

Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack

But now when Israel retaliates the uproar will be much louder.

And believe me, they will retaliate.

Sure the up roar will be louder when Israel responds because they are the bad guys and have no right to self defense against Acts of Terrorism.

Didn't you see the uproar when Israel killed the founder of Hamas? Blowing him up in his wheel chair with a missile real good, he was spread like mustard everywhere.

When Israel is attacked by Terrorists they are the bad guys deserving it, when Israel repsonds in self defense they are the bad guys. Hypocrisy at it's finest.

That was a nice shot wasn't it.

When Israel started targeting Hamas leaders they were asked to stop. They were told they were antagonizing the issue. Can you believe that! They were told not to kill the leaders who planned attacks night and day against Israel.

My favorite one was the bomb in the cell phone. They managed to get a cell phone in the hands of a Hamas leader. When it rang the terrorist leader answered and he heard

"Long live Israel"

That was the last thing he heard. The phone exploded.

Right after the founder of Hamas Yassin was Yassinated there were pictures of what was left of him on the internet, one picture showed his head and it looked like a deflated basketball. He was a Terrorist Leader he got off easy.

After that Israel was picking off every new leader of Hamas for a while it was so often there were online betting pools.

Yeah Israel was bashed at the UN for their actions and Israel told the UN and the World who didn't agree with their policy of killing Terrorist Leaders to shove it.. I didn't know of the phone exploding, Mossad does good work killing Terrorists and their leaders.
 
jimmoyer
#20
Actually Diaeagle, I have learned from the anti-zionists
like you that the West did impose a False Choice on
this land.

But I believe after all is said and done between
the battling righteous on this subject: I don't think
anyone would be the any better if Israel
disappeared.

I suspect making this work will be a much deeper
success than the false bravado of a victorious arab
shooting his gun in the air in glee.

And yes Diaeagle I'm as much pro-Jew as you are
anti-Jew.

I do think that you and your pro-Palestinians
did me a favor in making me understand the False
Choice, but we would all do well not to ignore
the evils of the side we support.

The irony is that if both can live together, we'll have
improved the psychology and spirit and wisdom of both sides.

That is much more long lasting with far greater
impact through history than the alternative below.

I'm not for a false peace where Israel disappears.
 
EagleSmack
#21
Johnny... they whacked that guy with a rocket from a Cobra helicopter. What a shot that was. Old Ironsides should have kept his trap shut and talked a little more peace than war.

I do remember the period after Yassin was killed. No sooner did one Hamas leader replace the old he was cut down. They didn't even get to check out their new office.

As soon as the new leader of Hamas was announced the IDF knocked him off. They eventually stopped announcing who was the next replacement for obvious reasons.

It was so easy to strap bombs on OTHER peoples backs but when the war started hiting them in the seat they said...

"No Mas!"
 
Doryman
#22
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack

Johnny... they whacked that guy with a rocket from a Cobra helicopter. What a shot that was. Old Ironsides should have kept his trap shut and talked a little more peace than war.

I do remember the period after Yassin was killed. No sooner did one Hamas leader replace the old he was cut down. They didn't even get to check out their new office.

As soon as the new leader of Hamas was announced the IDF knocked him off. They eventually stopped announcing who was the next replacement for obvious reasons.

It was so easy to strap bombs on OTHER peoples backs but when the war started hiting them in the seat they said...

"No Mas!"

I remember that attack, and I heard that for a little while after it the number of attempted attacks on Israel went Waaayyyy down. That's why I think Israel should direct their retaliation towards Hamas' higher ups. Whenever a teen age palestinian blows himself up in the market, launch some rockets into the house of a Hamas leader. Eventually Hamas is going to stop sending exploding messenger boys, and since it's the politicos and warlords who get killed, they will start to run out of recruits from the people.

Dieagle, it's obvious you're a rabid anti-Israeli. Anyone who cannot admit that there are mistakes and criminal acts on both sides is a little blind in my books.
 
Jay
#23
http://www.boston.com/news/world/mid...urant_bombing/


Hamas defends restaurant bombing

Quote:

With its response, Hamas gave the first indication of how it would view attacks against Israel after winning legislative elections in January and taking control of the Palestinian Authority last month.

''We think that this operation . . . is a direct result of the policy of the occupation and the brutal aggression and siege committed against our people," Khaled Abu Helal, a spokesman for the Hamas-led Interior Ministry, told the Associated Press yesterday.

The Hamas response set the stage for confrontation with Israel and further isolation by Western countries.


I guess they are gluttons for punishment.
 
aeon
#24
Quote: Originally Posted by I think not

I think that's the first time I ever heard you say that Jersay. You're right though, they are both at fault. That doesn't however make this bombing any less than vicious cowardly act.


Exactly, a cowardly act that is what it is, just like everything israeli gov does to the palestinians.

So in other word, on onne side we have terrorist group who does illegal coward act, and the other side it is an elected governement who does the same and even worst.
 
Jersay
#25
Johnny and Eaglesmack don't seem to see it that way, they seem to support terrorism against Palestinian civilians. So they are terrorist supporters when Palestinian civilians are directly attacked.
 
Johnny Utah
#26
Quote: Originally Posted by Jersay

Johnny and Eaglesmack don't seem to see it that way, they seem to support terrorism against Palestinian civilians. So they are terrorist supporters when Palestinian civilians are directly attacked.

Israel defending itself is not Terrorist actions against the Palestinians nice try to spin it that way.

I support the complete destruction of Hamas, Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad as they are Terrorist Organizations.

You and your sidekick Aeon on the other hand support the complete destruction of Israel while supporting Terrorist Organizations Hamas, Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad.
 
aeon
#27
Quote: Originally Posted by Johnny Utah

Quote: Originally Posted by Jersay

Johnny and Eaglesmack don't seem to see it that way, they seem to support terrorism against Palestinian civilians. So they are terrorist supporters when Palestinian civilians are directly attacked.

Israel defending itself is not Terrorist actions against the Palestinians nice try to spin it that way.

I support the complete destruction of Hamas, Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad as they are Terrorist Organizations.

You and your sidekick Aeon on the other hand support the complete destruction of Israel while supporting Terrorist Organizations Hamas, Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad.


Following this logic, then palestinians group are only defending themselves from terrorist israel.

Quite fair isnt??

On one side you have unorganised group, with rifle, children with rocks, and on the other side you have a deadly military,second one after usa, helicopter, rocket launcher, tanks etccc, wow i am impress.......
 
EagleSmack
#28
Quote: Originally Posted by Johnny Utah

Quote: Originally Posted by Jersay

Johnny and Eaglesmack don't seem to see it that way, they seem to support terrorism against Palestinian civilians. So they are terrorist supporters when Palestinian civilians are directly attacked.

Israel defending itself is not Terrorist actions against the Palestinians nice try to spin it that way.

I support the complete destruction of Hamas, Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad as they are Terrorist Organizations.

You and your sidekick Aeon on the other hand support the complete destruction of Israel while supporting Terrorist Organizations Hamas, Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad.

Perfect Johnny Utah. This is tough to top.

But we have to add that the Palestinian Terrorist hide behind their children and women and operate out of civillian areas HOPING for civillians to get killed so they can jump up and down and smack their own heads at funerals with the cameras rolling.
 
Jersay
#29
So just plain terrorists when Israel kills civilians when they are not attacking terrorist targets because everything they do isn't against a terrorist organization.

And remember most of the people they killed when they invaded last time wasn't militants except for Jenin in 2002. They were palestinian policemen.
 
jimmoyer
#30
Hey Jersay, we ought to challenge anyone in this
debate over Israel and Palestine by asking everyone
to adopt the reverse point of view.

Just a thought.

It would be an interesting excercise.

I know I can make an equally convincing case for
either the Palestinians or Israel, and I know damn well
I can be rather good at it.

But my heart lies in the belief, a sincere belief that
the truth lives in the middle between the two.

I don't subscribe to moral parity between state
terrorism or individual terrorism, and I don't subscribe
to moral equality in asymetrical warfare either, for
psychological reasons.

But I do subscribe to a truth that does live in the
middle, because there is enough of the devil in the
details to cause any honest partisan to question the
absoluteness of his belief.
 

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