Tesla to cut thousands of jobs as Elon Musk warns the ‘road ahead is very difficult’


Hoid
#601
40 years of conservative governments and 10 years of Harper could not get a pipeline through
 
captain morgan
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#602
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Always somebody else's fault ... never responsibility for your own outcomes.

Alberta is Third World.

VICTIMS!!! .... a!ways VICTIMS!!!


Take a pill there princess... Albertans choose not to be victims, hence the interest in western separation.


... We'd find out pretty fast how long it would take the ROC to transform into a desolate 3rd world country without the cooperation of the resource sector in the west


Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

Time to eliminate transfer payments to the east until this is rectified.


Kenney has already proposed a referendum on AB participating in that program.


I'm very confident that given the chance, it will be a landslide vote to exit equalization


Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

40 years of Conservatives are what made Alberta into a have proivince. One term of Notely and trudOWE ****ked all that up.


The flip-side on your comment is that the last 40 years of liberal leadership on the Fed scene has resulted in Canukistan being unnecessarily deep in debt and a laughing stock on the international stage
 
taxslave
+4
#603
Even 16 years of good government in BC couldn't completely undo the damage done by the previous 10 years of dipper mismanagement. Like all the protected areas that bestroyed our forest industry. I fear that trudOWE's tanker baan on the west coast will be impossible to undo although perhaps it could be ignored. Or it will be circumvented by Eagle Spirt line using Hyder for a port costing us hundreds of good paying jobs and the tankers will travel through the same waters. Same with TM. If the oil can't go out through BC ports it will flow to Washington State and tankers will goe through the same water and again we loose both jobs and control over the product.
 
pgs
+4
#604
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

Even 16 years of good government in BC couldn't completely undo the damage done by the previous 10 years of dipper mismanagement. Like all the protected areas that bestroyed our forest industry. I fear that trudOWE's tanker baan on the west coast will be impossible to undo although perhaps it could be ignored. Or it will be circumvented by Eagle Spirt line using Hyder for a port costing us hundreds of good paying jobs and the tankers will travel through the same waters. Same with TM. If the oil can't go out through BC ports it will flow to Washington State and tankers will goe through the same water and again we loose both jobs and control over the product.

But oil is dead . Hoid tells us everyday .
 
captain morgan
+3
#605
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

Even 16 years of good government in BC couldn't completely undo the damage done by the previous 10 years of dipper mismanagement. Like all the protected areas that bestroyed our forest industry. I fear that trudOWE's tanker baan on the west coast will be impossible to undo although perhaps it could be ignored. Or it will be circumvented by Eagle Spirt line using Hyder for a port costing us hundreds of good paying jobs and the tankers will travel through the same waters. Same with TM. If the oil can't go out through BC ports it will flow to Washington State and tankers will goe through the same water and again we loose both jobs and control over the product.


This is the real problem with having piss-poor leadership, the cost of undoing the damage done.


It's too bad for BC. A province so rich in natural resources, ports to transport goods and yet the only resource that the gvt gets behind is coal and leaves mining, forestry, oil/gas, etc twisting in the wind.


There is absolutely no reason why BC's economy couldn't be the biggest powerhouse in NorAm
 
pgs
+3
#606
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

This is the real problem with having piss-poor leadership, the cost of undoing the damage done.


It's too bad for BC. A province so rich in natural resources, ports to transport goods and yet the only resource that the gvt gets behind is coal and leaves mining, forestry, oil/gas, etc twisting in the wind.


There is absolutely no reason why BC's economy couldn't be the biggest powerhouse in NorAm

B.C. is in the same boat as all western democracies a bloated civil service , and taking a line from spillthebeer , eating all the gravy .
 
Hoid
#607
tesla now claiming to be 100% leather free
 
Curious Cdn
+1
#608
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

tesla now claiming to be 100% leather free

How many Naugas do they butcher every day for their hides, instead?
 
captain morgan
+4
#609
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

B.C. is in the same boat as all western democracies a bloated civil service , and taking a line from spillthebeer , eating all the gravy .


it seems that the political brain-trust is far more motivated by virtue signaling rather than building a strong economy.


Too bad, but it is what it is
 
petros
+4
#610
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

tesla now claiming to be 100% leather free

You prefer oil based vinyl?
 
petros
+3
#611
It appears the 28000 projected Tesla sales in China wouldnt matter to anyone but Hoid.

https://www.climatechangenews.com/20...-2-7c-warming/

May as well start developing coal fired cars since the source of electricity will be coal.
 
captain morgan
+4
#612
I wonder how much a loss that tesla will suffer on this latest debacle
 
taxslave
+4
#613
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

But oil is dead . Hoid tells us everyday .

Troll posts rarely have any basis in fact.
 
taxslave
+3
#614
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

tesla now claiming to be 100% leather free

Want to guess at what the alternatives are made from?
 
taxslave
+4
#615
Maybe Trump will prohibit the export of lectrikery cars to China.
 
petros
+3
#616
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

I wonder how much a loss that tesla will suffer on this latest debacle

When average Zho eggroll buys an EV It'll be one of these or one like it for under $6K USD.

https://m.alibaba.com/product/622200...ng_140x140.png








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The solar electric car

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Everbright

Body Structure

5 doors 5 seats all closed style

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3480*1550*1550mm

Curb Weight

674kg

Battery type

lithium

Battery capacity

100AH

Driving Type

rear drive

Motor

60V

Motor power

3.5KW

Solar power system

Solar chip,flexible solar panel

acceleration control

Electronic accelerator pedal

Brake System

Front/rear disc brake

Gear shift control

Automatic gearbox

Service brake

Foot brake/Vacuum hydraulic brake

Wheelbase

2260mm

Max.speed(km/h)

50KM/H

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500km with mileage enlarger

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Liquid crystal
combination dashboard

Central locking

The one-piece remote
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Electric lifting doors and Windows.

Warm air defrost system

Mp5 in-car touch screen

Trigger reverse image

Mp4 player

USB port

Bluetooth handsfree car kit

Mp3 music player

Luggage carrier

Aluminum alloy wheel
hub vacuum tyre

Intelligent battery charger

Adjustable,comfortable
seat with head pillow

Three-point safety belt

Reading light

Sun shield

Combined LED light group

Folder rear view mirrors

Front glass double wiper

CAN drive control system

Mileage enlarger

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Think tank shield

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captain morgan
+4
#617
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

Maybe Trump will prohibit the export of lectrikery cars to China.


The Chinese gvt likely demanded that the EVs are manufactured totally in China only using Chinese labor and materials... Good chance that the gvt also set the price point


Musk just wants some kind of positive news to help buoy his flailing company


Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

When average Zho eggroll buys an EV It'll be one of these or one like it for under $6K USD.


It'll be interesting considering that China already has an electricity generation problem.


Hopefully tesla engineers the vehicle such that an ICE engine can easily be dropped in
 
petros
+2
#618
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

The Chinese gvt likely demanded that the EVs are manufactured totally in China only using Chinese labor and materials... Good chance that the gvt also set the price point
Musk just wants some kind of positive news to help buoy his flailing company
It'll be interesting considering that China already has an electricity generation problem.
Hopefully tesla engineers the vehicle such that an ICE engine can easily be dropped in

You can only own a vehicle in China for 5 years then it's crushed and recycled.
 
captain morgan
+3
#619
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

You can only own a vehicle in China for 5 years then it's crushed and recycled.


How ecofriendly.... Tesla must be beaming with all of the planet-saving efforts going on here
 
Cannuck
#620
https://fortune.com/longform/electri...try-china/amp/
 
Hoid
#621
Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck View Post

https://fortune.com/longform/electri...try-china/amp/

electric and alternative vehicles represent growth, which is what stock markets are looking for.

Tesla sold more vehicles in the first quarter of 2018 than they did in all of 2017.

367% yoy growth.

legacy vehicles face only declining sales and the oil industry faces only declining profits.

the big term now in oil and gas is stranded assets.

stranded assets are what will be in the ground in Fort Mac long after oil is finished as fuel source.
 
captain morgan
+4
#622
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

electric and alternative vehicles represent growth, which is what stock markets are looking for.

Tesla sold more vehicles in the first quarter of 2018 than they did in all of 2017.


In my neck of the woods, little Suzy sold 8X more lemonade on the side of the street this summer than last summer.


Interestingly enough, she made more $$ than Tesla at $0.25 per dixie cup.


... The profit comparison kinda puts things into perspective, eh?




Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

the big term now in oil and gas is stranded assets.

stranded assets are what will be in the ground in Fort Mac long after oil is finished as fuel source.


You heard a term that you clearly don't understand.


Stranded for some are accessible for others.


I'm more than happy that foreign O&G companies are selling off at a steep discount.... Helluva good opportunity for guys like me
 
petros
+3
#623
If your hero was really out to save the environment he'd have built a truck first and luxury car last.
 
petros
+3
#624
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

electric and alternative vehicles represent growth, which is what stock markets are looking for.
Tesla sold more vehicles in the first quarter of 2018 than they did in all of 2017.
367% yoy growth.
legacy vehicles face only declining sales and the oil industry faces only declining profits.
the big term now in oil and gas is stranded assets.
stranded assets are what will be in the ground in Fort Mac long after oil is finished as fuel source.

Still need oil to make plastic cars.

The Ford/VW/Rivian partnership is gonna crush Tesla.
 
petros
+3
#625
https://electrek.co/2019/09/02/fordl...rket-2022/amp/Electric F150 for 2022.

Finally something useful.
 
taxslave
+2
#626
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

electric and alternative vehicles represent growth, which is what stock markets are looking for.
Tesla sold more vehicles in the first quarter of 2018 than they did in all of 2017.
367% yoy growth.
legacy vehicles face only declining sales and the oil industry faces only declining profits.
the big term now in oil and gas is stranded assets.
stranded assets are what will be in the ground in Fort Mac long after oil is finished as fuel source.

DiD Tesla deliver any of those vehicles yet?
THe stranded oil problem will be cured in October.
 
taxslave
+2
#627
I think that ultimately Hydrogen fuel cells will be the future of automotive. Especially when governments quit giving away money for electric toys.
 
Hoid
#628
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

DiD Tesla deliver any of those vehicles yet?
THe stranded oil problem will be cured in October.

they do about $20 billion a year
 
taxslave
+1
#629
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

they do about $20 billion a year

Last I heard production was about a year behind deposits taken. Not that much money considering I have worked for construction companies whose annual sales exceed some country's GDP.
 
Hoid
#630
but you were talking revenue

Tesla's revenue is $20 billion or so. Probably more.

and you have never worked for a construction company that big