Who to vote for in Canadian federal election in 2019?


Cliffy
Free Thinker
#61
When you have two parties exchanging power back and forth for 150 years, let's be honest. They're both dinosaur parties.
Last edited by Cliffy; Sep 16th, 2019 at 02:24 PM..
 
Walter
+1
#62
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

“When you have two parties exchanging power back and forth for 150 years, let's be honest. They're both dinosaur parties."

Conservative Party was founded in 2003.
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
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#63
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Conservative Party was founded in 2003.

Just because they changed their name a few times doesn't change their stripes. They are still the right wing in Canada and virtually identical to the Liberals in representing Big Business above the electorate.
 
Walter
+1
#64
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

Just because they changed their name a few times doesn't change their stripes. They are still the right wing in Canada and virtually identical to the Liberals in representing Big Business above the electorate.

Wrong. Business owns the Libs.
 
Hoid
#65
they only lease the conservatives
 
Cannuck
No Party Affiliation
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#66
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Wrong. Business owns the Libs.

Trumpites hate business.
 
Serryah
Free Thinker
+1
#67
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Wrong. Business owns the Libs.


And they don't own the Cons?




LOLOL - that's funny.
 
spilledthebeer
#68
Quote: Originally Posted by Nick Danger View Post

I'm concerned that the biggest single plank in the PC platform is the SNC Lavalin affair. That and thowing a few dollar bills at the voters, but not for a year or so. Same old, same old.




Poor FOOLISH NICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!


HE AINT SMART ENOUGH ......................................


to BE a Danger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!


People like Danger are too IGNORANT to understand..................................


that the Conservative Plan............................................


is elegantly SIMPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!


The Conservative Plan consists of CLEANING UP LIE-beral MESSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!


Consider:::::::::::::::::











Here are some fun examples of Fake News that LIE-berals don’t want us to look closely at!!!!

LIE-berals insist that Andrew Scheer is some sort of closet white supremacist and they insist that Scheer is hiding views more right wing than those of the infamous Faith Goldy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yet Goldy - who was fired from The Rebel Media by boss Ezra Levant - has just tweeted that Justin Trudeau ONCE BOUGHT SOME DRINKS for Goldy in a bar!

Is it not absurd- Our idiot Boy condemning white supremacists -and then BUYING DRINKS for one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LIE-berals are denouncing a web site run by a former Conservative candidate!!!!!!

And the guy is claiming that the VERY LIE-beral friendly Toronto Star newspaper is getting $115,000.00 PER WEEK from the giant media slush fund worth six hundred million dollars- that LIE-berals are offering ONLY to Cdn news media “that they trust”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And LIE-berals say THIS IS Fake News -Star is not getting $115 grand!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But LIE-berals will not say how much Toronto Red Star is REALLY getting!!!!!!!

Is Toronto star getting MORE than $115 grand per week?????????????????

LIE-beral friendly Cdn news media- meaning the people getting a share of the LIE-beral six hundred million dollar slush fund that LIE-berals are handing out to “news media that they trust” .........................................

meaning people who give LIE-berals good press.....................................

are claiming that Our idiot Boy Justin is no different in ducking televised election debate that Stephen Harper!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THIS IS LIE-beral FAKE NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stephen Harper avoided televised debates because they were political ambushes set up by LIE-beral friendly media - that LIE-berals trusted- to slander and smear Harper about his ALLEGED SECRET AGENDA - that has NEVER APPEARED!!!!!!!!

BUT Our idiot Boy Justin is avoiding televised political debate because there is NO WAY that LIE-beral friendly media -that LIE-berals trust - can protect him from REAL QUESTIONS on his record as PM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LIE-beral trusted media cannot deny questions about the over $100 BILLION dollars of new debt -of which over $12 billion is for recently made campaign promises- that Trudope has already run up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nor can that trusted media protect Trudope from hard questions about how much new debt he will dump on us if he is re-elected!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nor can trusted news media protect Trudope from hard questions about how high he will drive the carbon tax SCAM after LIE-berals drive us full tilt into the debt wall and we are forced by international bankers to START paying back what we owe!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have said before that the Trudope LIE-beral plan to make us rich with borrowed money is nothing more than a COSTLY replay of the Ontari-owe premier Bob Rae/NDP plan to make Ontari-owe rich with borrowed money!!!!!

Rae and NDP succeeded ONLY in doubling the Ontari-owe debt -and making such a MESS that Ontari-owe civil service union HOGS were FORCED HOME for UNPAID DAYS OFF WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The NOTORIOUS RAE DAYS - those once a week days off killed 20 percent of the average HOG income - and prompted the election of Mike Harris to clean up the mess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And now we have Our idiot Boy and loser LIE-berals running up over $100 billion dollars in new debt IN FOUR YEARS - while at the same time- trying desperately to KILL OFF the highly profitable Cdn oil patch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LIE-berals tell us “our economy is BOOMING”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So if we are doing so well- then WHY CANT WE PAY OUR BILLS????????????

If we are doing so well then why are so many kids unable to live independently of their parents?????????????????????

ARE we witnessing an epic taxing and looting of the general public so LIE-berals cna BUY VOTE from HOGS and other special interest groups -so LIE-berals can cling to power at ANY PRICE???????????????????

Nor can trusted LIE-beral media protect Trudope from hard questions about his dangerous tampering with the jury selection process that is being exploited by dangerous criminals to argue they need a new and MORE FAIR trial- that will let them off the hook for crimes committed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WE have only to listen to the argument put up by the two convicted terrorists who wanted to derail a Via Passenger train full of people - sending it crashing off the 40 metre high Highland Creek Bridge to realize LIE-beral tampering with jury selection is giving thugs a get out of jail free card”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LIE-berals DO NOT CARE that the reason the two terrorists DID NOT SPEAK or participate in their first trial is because the terrorists DENY the authority of Cdn govt to judge them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The two terrorists DENY they got a fair trial because the jury was NOT COMPOSED of their peers - it had only ordinary Cdns on the jury!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now- SHOULD WE NOT ASK JUST WHO the two terrorists WOULD CONSIDER AS being worthy of being their “PEERS” and of judging them????????????????????

Shall we GUESS that the only people that convicted terrorists consider to “be their peers” ARE OTHER TERRORISTS??????????????

In summer 2017, LIE-berals RELEASED SEVEN accused KILLERS - claiming they could not provide trials in reasonable time frame and thus the rights of the killers would be violated - so the killers were set free and the DEAD VICTIMS were FORGOTTEN- because LIE-berals need THEIR GRAVY for other things than legal wrangling!!!!!!!!!!

In Ontari-owe - Wynne-bag LIE-berals ALSO RELEASED WITHOUT TRIAL- 4 men accused in various frauds who allegedly STOLE $45 million dollars from us!!

But LIE-beral courts were to BUSY to bother trying the fraud artists who had set up various COMPLEX scams so THEY ALSO were set free......................and the people who were CHEATED............WERE FORGOTTEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This patern of LIE-beral indiffernce to white collar crime dates back to prime ministers Pierre Trudeau and Chretien!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

In the late 1980`s - as Canada was enduring a wave of bank and mortgage frauds - the Calgary chief of Police appeared on the news and told us: “ it is now the policy of the Calgary Police NOT TO BOTHER investigating cases of mortgage fraud”!!!

The Chief was ENRAGED that bank officials had been so UNCOOPERATIVE with cops during previous fraud investigations that he decided his cops had better things to do than argue with banks who considered fraud to be the cost of doing biz in Canada -and TOO BAD about the victms who had their identity STOLEN by fraud artists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And now Canada has become the money laundering capitol of the world!!!!!!!!!!!

Thieves from all over the world are DELIGHTED that LIE-berals giver them such opportunities to PROFIT from Cdn LIE-beral catch and release legal CRAP!!!!!!!!

In addition LIE-berals quietly and ROUTINELY CONTINUE RELEASING - without trial - because they don’t have the time to bother- various lesser criminals -meaning those charged with things like ASSAULT with a weapon and DRUNK DRIVING and others facing drug charges!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LIE-berals cover court activities with a veil of Privacy issues - claiming it is to protect the innocent - yet it is LIE-beral reputations that are getting best protection from LIE-beral interpretations of “privacy”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And yet in spite of all this - LIE-berals get ANGRY when people SNEER at the LIE-beral legal “catch and release’ SCAM that pretends to protect the public - when the REAL GOAL is to protect special interest groups that VOTE LIE-beral!!
LIE-berals want us to believe that the Lavalin Scandal is nothing more than an “ethical lapse in judgement”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LIE-berals are DELIBERATELY HIDING the BRIBERY AND CORRUPTION that was part of CDN GOVT contracts - and they are SLOUGHING OFF THE ELECTION BRIBERY that LIE-beral party BENEFITED FROM AS WELL!!!!

LIE-berals are engaged in PLEA BARGAINING - making MAJOR CRIMINAL ACTIVITY INTO MINOR ISSUES by claiming “Caucus Privilege and Privacy rules” and using their parliamentary veto powers to CANCEL needed police investigation and trial!!!!!!!

LIE-berals boast that their immigration system is selecting candidates who “do well here” and of course the DEVIL is in the LIE-beral details!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Only one third of those who come to Canada are considered “immigrants” in the conventional sense!!!!!

Most of the OTHER TWO THIRDS of people are those who come here as part of the “Family Re-unification Process” that lets in people WHO HAVE NO HOPE OF SUCCEEDING IN CANADA without getting Both govt and family aid and thus ARE NOT CONSIDERED AS IMMIGRANTS when LIE-berals count up the “successful immigrants” LIE-berals brought to Canada”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The swarms of illegals crossing our borders on a daily basis - and clogging up our homeless shelters and straining our welfare and food bank system are not counted as immigrants either - by always flexible with the truth LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LIE-berals have - for the time being - abandoned their efforts to silence ALL their critics by using blanket accusations of alleged “Hate Speech” that LIE-berals think should be punished in one of their Human Rights Kangaroo Courts!!

LIE-berals have utterly FAILED to supply any logical definition of “Islamophobia” or any other type of “hate speech” - other than to indicate that they believe it is “HATRED” to say anything HARSH about LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Gilgamesh
+1
#69
Quote: Originally Posted by Liberalman View Post

Who to vote for in Canadian federal election in 2019? It's that time again to start thinking about who to vote for so you can make an informed decision at the voting booth. There are three main political parties Liberal, Conservative and NDP and a whole bunch of fringe parties. What are the changes you want to see and which political party can accomplish that? What do you think?

We have such a corrupt and incompetent amateurish system that the voters only sane & logical recourse is to vote the local incumbent OUT
 
spilledthebeer
#70
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

Just because they changed their name a few times doesn't change their stripes. They are still the right wing in Canada and virtually identical to the Liberals in representing Big Business above the electorate.






Congratulations Cliffy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You have PROVED you are a STAR GRADUATE........................................


of the LIE-beral School of Propaganda and Fake News!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


ALL OF US Cdns.....................................


LIVE OFF the earnings of Biz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Small or large or in the middle...................................


when LIE-berals screw biz with idiot taxes ........................................


such as the carbon tax SCAM.............................................. .........


LIE-berals ARE REALLY SCREWING EACH OF US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The LIE-beral carbon scam is merely a HUGE GRAVY GRAB....................................


by LIE-berals who are prepared to destroy Canada with debt.........................................


just so long as LIE-berals can retain power!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It is a tribute to the MUDDLED THINKING of people like Cliffy............................


that he THINKS LIE-berals can force us to do a FACE PLANT...............................


into the DEBT WALL.............................................. .....


that will cause CHAOS when our economy is CUT OFF the easy credit....................................



while maintaining the supply of gravy flowing...............................


to drunken, unemployable, suicidal natives!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!


Cliffy is SO IGNORANT.........................................


he ACTUALLY TRUSTS LIE-beral promises!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Nick Danger
#71
Quote: Originally Posted by Gilgamesh View Post

We have such a corrupt and incompetent amateurish system that the voters only sane & logical recourse is to vote the local incumbent OUT


That has become the way of Canadian politics from the municipal level on up, we don't elect new representatives as much as we fire the old ones. Who is going to govern takes second place to who was in power and how much we want to get rid of them. This makes for easy campaigning, all you have to do is make the other guy look bad. No need for bothersome old policy statements and platform planks and all that other rubbish, it just lands in the circular file the day after the election anyways.
 
Nick Danger
#72
For me this is an election of political philosophy, of right vs left. Socialism focuses on the collective good of all, capitalism is concerned with the bottom line of the individual. I guess it just depends on where your head is at, is it "me" or "us" ?
 
spilledthebeer
#73
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

Just because they changed their name a few times doesn't change their stripes. They are still the right wing in Canada and virtually identical to the Liberals in representing Big Business above the electorate.




Poor foolish Cliffy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You demonstrate your lack of understanding with each new post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!

 
spilledthebeer
#74
Quote: Originally Posted by Nick Danger View Post

For me this is an election of political philosophy, of right vs left. Socialism focuses on the collective good of all, capitalism is concerned with the bottom line of the individual. I guess it just depends on where your head is at, is it "me" or "us" ?


For NicK- who is a DANGER mainly to himself......................................


this election is yet another opportunity to be TERMINALLY CONFUSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The POOR DANGEROUSLY foolish twit has NO



understanding of either Socialism or LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
Walter
+2
#75
Quote: Originally Posted by Nick Danger View Post

For me this is an election of political philosophy, of right vs left. Socialism focuses on the collective good of all, capitalism is concerned with the bottom line of the individual. I guess it just depends on where your head is at, is it "me" or "us" ?

No matter what socialists say it's always about me.
 
captain morgan
No Party Affiliation
+1
#76
Quote: Originally Posted by Nick Danger View Post

For me this is an election of political philosophy, of right vs left. Socialism focuses on the collective good of all, capitalism is concerned with the bottom line of the individual. I guess it just depends on where your head is at, is it "me" or "us" ?


As long as your collective good requires cash to fund it, you might want to think long and hard about shooting the goose that lays the golden egg... And that is EXACTLY what the left political parties are promoting in the policies that seek to fleece the companies/individuals that are the actual engines of the economy and deliver the funds needed to apply to the collective good
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
#77
The goose that lays the golden egg is a greedy SOB and is hording all the gold. It is not good for the greater good of society, it is a detriment.


 
Nick Danger
#78
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

As long as your collective good requires cash to fund it, you might want to think long and hard about shooting the goose that lays the golden egg... And that is EXACTLY what the left political parties are promoting in the policies that seek to fleece the companies/individuals that are the actual engines of the economy and deliver the funds needed to apply to the collective good


I'm okay with considering one's ability to pay when deciding how much of the burden they should shoulder. You look at the two extreme ends of the scale, those who have nothing and those who have more than they need, there is room to improve the balance without causing undue hardship.
 
Vbeacher
+1
#79
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

After 150 why are they still Conservatives?


They're not, except in name.
 
Vbeacher
+2
#80
Quote: Originally Posted by Nick Danger View Post

For me this is an election of political philosophy, of right vs left. Socialism focuses on the collective good of all, capitalism is concerned with the bottom line of the individual. I guess it just depends on where your head is at, is it "me" or "us" ?


The problem is that Socialism's zeal for the 'collective good' always leads to the collective bad. So determined are they to force equality they rob society's most productive people of any inspiration or reason to be productive, or simply drive them away. To protect the 'greater good' Socialists bail out industries and subsidize them with ever greater money, money that has to come from something which could increase production and productivity.



Capitalism isn't concerned with the bottom line of the individual. It is concerned with society, and realizes that the well-being of society, given human nature, requires rewards to those who strive and succeed, and denies them to those who do not. It is an imperfect system, but it has lifted hundreds of millions out of poverty while Socialism had put them back into it.
 
harrylee
Free Thinker
+1
#81
Quote: Originally Posted by Nick Danger View Post

I'm okay with considering one's ability to pay when deciding how much of the burden they should shoulder. You look at the two extreme ends of the scale, those who have nothing and those who have more than they need, there is room to improve the balance without causing undue hardship.

Those with nothing, obviously didn't try very hard.....Those with more than they need, did....Who's fault is that?
 
captain morgan
No Party Affiliation
+2
#82
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

The goose that lays the golden egg is a greedy SOB and is hording all the gold. It is not good for the greater good of society, it is a detriment.


And yet, you seem to live off their avails


Quote: Originally Posted by Nick Danger View Post

I'm okay with considering one's ability to pay when deciding how much of the burden they should shoulder. You look at the two extreme ends of the scale, those who have nothing and those who have more than they need, there is room to improve the balance without causing undue hardship.


Communism and extreme socialism operate in setting the bar to the lowest common denominator and dragging everyone to that level. There are only a handful of examples of individuals that were able to lift themselves out of poverty in those systems.


And ask yourself this question; Excepting religious organizations, who or what are the charitable organizations that operate freely in these societies?... Any names come to mind that aren't constructs or exist due to capitalism?


Quote: Originally Posted by harrylee View Post

Those with nothing, obviously didn't try very hard.....Those with more than they need, did....Who's fault is that?


Apparently, success should be punished with extreme penalties
 
petros
+3
#83
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

The goose that lays the golden egg is a greedy SOB and is hording all the gold. It is not good for the greater good of society, it is a detriment.

So go dig your own gold instead of coveting the gold of others.
 
captain morgan
No Party Affiliation
+1
#84
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

So go dig your own gold instead of coveting the gold of others.


He would refuse to share even if he had the motivation to try
 
pgs
Free Thinker
+3
#85
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

And yet, you seem to live off their avails





Communism and extreme socialism operate in setting the bar to the lowest common denominator and dragging everyone to that level. There are only a handful of examples of individuals that were able to lift themselves out of poverty in those systems.


And ask yourself this question; Excepting religious organizations, who or what are the charitable organizations that operate freely in these societies?... Any names come to mind that aren't constructs or exist due to capitalism?





Apparently, success should be punished with extreme penalties

Yup when I was a young man , making good money living with two friends in a rental house . Party time , all our dough went to sex drugs and rock and roll . While we were having the time of our lives , another friend , had a second job . What a loser , soon he owned his condo , which he promptly rented out and bought another . Well he was working two jobs we partied , by the time we settled down and got married , this guy had six houses and an apartment building . The boys and I eventually got in the housing market and are well off . The loser that worked is a multimillionaire. I think I deserve some of his property .
 
petros
+1
#86
 
Cannuck
No Party Affiliation
#87
That's one more reason to vote for Justin
 
Vbeacher
-1
#88
Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck View Post

That's one more reason to vote for Justin


Because Muslims are so much more tolerant than Christians...
 
spilledthebeer
#89
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

The goose that lays the golden egg is a greedy SOB and is hording all the gold. It is not good for the greater good of society, it is a detriment.







CLUELESS Cliffy CRAPS out again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!


Just like the Commissars at our CBC - Communist Broadcasting Corp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Here is an article illustrating the remarkable ABUSE of the democratic process that our civil service union HOGS are engaged in ........



at OUR expense - and it is a disturbing illustration of the creeping political COUP that LIE-berals and their HOG allies are orchestrating against us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

With some comments of my own in brackets):

CBC sues the Conservative party over copyright, 'moral rights' of journalists

By: Michael Higgins National Post

Published October 12, 2019

Justin Trudeau, Andrew Scheer are posing for a picture: Video excerpts from the English-language leaders' debate were among the materials the Conservatives used that the CBC found objectionable.© Sean Kilpatrick/The Canadian Press

The CBC is suing the Conservative party, claiming its use of excerpts from the broadcaster violated the “moral rights” of news anchor Rosemary Barton and reporter John Paul Tasker.

(“Moral Rights”?? Sounds like SELF AWARDED HOG ENTITLEMENTS to me!! And whining about violation of “moral rights” SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT WAY TO throw mud on Scheer - WITHOUT having to actually PROVE anything!
We all have LEGAL Rights but “moral rights” are not legally recognized and thus any complaint will require ENDLESS legal wrangling and appeals to higher courts for definitions that will not be resolved till long after the election!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(CBC seems to have chosen this quick and DIRTY WAY of smearing Scheer as “IMMORAL” simply because it is a nasty sounding label that cannot be quickly disputed or resolved!! It looks to this cynic as if LIE-beral SMEAR tactics are evolving- one has only to think of the ATTACK on Patrick Brown in which vile allegations were made - in a form where NO RETALIATION could be made!!!!!!)

(Two women who CLAIMED that Brown sexually asaulted them made their accusations AT A TV STATION - to a reporter that one of the accusers was previously friendly with - and the media ran the story because it is the job of media to tell us important facts- except THERE ARE NO FACTS in what appears to be a POLITICALLY MOTIVATED smear job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(There are those who have said Brown should sue - but that takes years and will cost upwards of $100 grand - ALL out of Browns pocket - with the added bonus that his accusers own NOTHING so they will NEVER pay damages after losing - thus the attack on Brown SUCCEEDED by carefully taking advantage of multiple loopholes in our laws - most likely on gthe advice of a lawyer - just as CBC is apparently doing now trying to do to allegedly “immoral” Scheer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

The excerpts — which included video taken at this week’s English-language leaders debate — were used on a Conservative party website and on Twitter.

(CBC CLAIMS to be our public broadcaster dedicated to bringing us important news so we may make informed choices - and yet CENSORSHIP of views the CBC HOGS do not like is THEIR PERSONAL and selfish CHOICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

In the copyright infringement lawsuit, the CBC is asking for an injunction restraining the Tories from using the material as well as a declaration that the party “violated the moral rights of the applicants, Rosemary Barton and John Paul Tasker, who are the authors and performers of the copyright-protected material.”

Barton, co-anchor of The National program, and Tasker, CBC’s Parliamentary bureau reporter, are named along with the CBC as applicants bringing the action.
The action is being brought despite the material having been taken down from websites and deleted from Twitter.

(Yes- its dirty pool - it WILL NOT MATTER in a couple of weeks whether CBC is right or wrong in the eyes of the law -they GOT what they wanted- they smeared Scheer and wrecked a Conservative web site and ads - for the remainder of the election campaign !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

In a statement, the Conservatives said: “The Conservative party has grave concern that this decision was made on the eve of an election that CBC is to be covering fairly and objectively. The Conservative party considers this a complete distraction in the final days of a tightly contested election, and we will dispute this lawsuit fully.

“The video in question was removed from our platforms well before CBC lawyers made the decision to file their lawsuit.

(There is a strong argument to be made that Conservatives SHOULD NOT be compelled to take down the video and that it is CBC THAT IS IN THE WRONG!!
I believe that CBC has taken this legal action simply as a quick and easy way to HARASS SCHEER and the Conservative party!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

“The 17 seconds of CBC clips in the video included (Postmedia columnist) Andrew Coyne highlighting how Justin Trudeau broke the law, Justin Trudeau telling a Canadian war veteran that he is ‘asking for more than we can give right now,’ and one CBC reporter questioning why the Liberals provided Loblaws with $12 million in tax dollars to install new refrigerators.”

(IN other words CBC is objecting to its LIE-beral PALS being cast in a BAD LIGHT using their own words against them!! We can bet that if there was video of SCHEER being shown in that bad light - that CBC BIGOTS would let it be shown all over the internet!! Such is the BIGOTRY AND LIE-beral GREED of our times!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

It adds, “When you are funded entirely by taxpayer dollars, taxpayers should be able to use the footage.”

(And THERE IS A MORE COMPELLING ARGUMENT - set forward by Cdn Law Professor Michael Geist- who has also commented on DELIBERATE CBC censorship in the 2015 election!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

In a blog post, Michael Geist, a law professor at the University of Ottawa, said the Conservative party has a strong case for arguing “fair dealing” in use of the material.

The CBC’s “claim is based on an odd collection of unconvincing arguments, including the notion that clips from the debate might lead someone to think that the CBC is biased, contrary to its obligations under the Broadcasting Act,” he wrote.

(IN 2015, Geist commented that CBC was in violation of “fair use policy” - which means that political commentary IS NOT SUBJECT to the same copyright laws as other types of media!! Our democracy has evolved such rules to permit use of political comment for the purpose of EDUCATING the public regarding policies and ideas of our leaders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(After the 2015 election Professor Geist stated that CBC was using a deliberately distorted interpretation of “fair use” to CENSOR ANY VIEW that was hostile to LIE-berals!! I think that CBC HOGS have learned much from Nazi propaganda minister Joseph Goebels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

“Moreover, the claim over short clips over debate footage is enormously troubling, considering both the importance of broad dissemination of the debate and the fact that the debate involves little specific contribution for any individual broadcaster. CBC has an unfortunate history of overzealous use of copyright to stifle freedom of expression and that approach appears to have reared its head yet again as the 2019 campaign hits the home stretch.”

(Yes- LAW PROFESSOR Geist offers us an elegant condemnation of deliberate CBC CENSORSHIP and bigotry against Conservatives!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

The lawsuit alleges the offending material was used on a website run by the Conservatives called “Not as Advertised” as well as on Facebook and YouTube.

The CBC excerpts included material taken from The National when Barton interviewed Coyne in December 2017; a town hall event featuring Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau in January 2018; an excerpt from the Power & Politics program in April 2019; and a clip featuring commentary from Rex Murphy on The National taken in September 2016.

“The CBC material captures the skill and judgment of CBC journalists and producers,” says the lawsuit filed on Thursday.

(Oh!! “Skill and judgement” is apparently now LIE-beral speak meaning bigotry and deceit!!! CBC HOGS have NEVER made any secret of which party THEY support!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

The lawsuit says the use of the material in a partisan way “diminishes the reputation” of the CBC and leaves it open to allegations that it is biased.

(This is Hog ENTITLEMENT at its most GROTESQUE!! WE should ask why CBC presented the leaders debates in the first place - if for any other reason than to supply public information - EXACTLY according to the fair use policy that has governed such political discourse for centuries!! CBC DAMNS its own position by trying to HIDE FACTS AND STATEMENTS that it does not like - using BAD legal interpretations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

“Further, selectively editing various news items together to present a sensational and one-sided perspective against one particular political party may leave a viewer with the impression that the journalists are themselves biased, contrary to their obligations to be ‘fair and balanced’,” it reads.

(I say CBC INSULTS OUR INTELLIGENCE HERE!! CBC presented the ENTIRE DEBATE!! Later- Conservatives selected certain moments from the debate to HIGHLIGHT LIE-beral faults!! LIE-berals WILL DO THE SAME - IF they can ever catch Scheer saying DUMB stuff like Our idiot Boy Justin!!!!!!!!!!!)

(I say CBC HOGS are essentially claiming the MORAL RIGHT to PROTECT Our idiot Boy and his loser LIE-berals from the fallout of their own big mouths and stupid political choices!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Equality is a fine thing - but TYING THE HANDS and restricting the public comments of certain groups SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY ARE SMARTER than LIE-berals and LIE-beral supporters IS NOT DEMOCRATIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(The fact that CBC HOGS live or die according to which govt is in power and thus have a HUGE CONFLICT OF INTEREST HERE - is a FINE REASON to savagely CUT BACK the CBC budget so their bigotry and greed will not further erode our democracy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
 
captain morgan
No Party Affiliation
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#90
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

Yup when I was a young man , making good money living with two friends in a rental house . Party time , all our dough went to sex drugs and rock and roll . While we were having the time of our lives , another friend , had a second job . What a loser , soon he owned his condo , which he promptly rented out and bought another . Well he was working two jobs we partied , by the time we settled down and got married , this guy had six houses and an apartment building . The boys and I eventually got in the housing market and are well off . The loser that worked is a multimillionaire. I think I deserve some of his property .

Your friend that worked the part time jobs and bought R/E should be ashamed.... At very least, he owes Cliffy the apartment building