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spilledthebeer
#211
Quote: Originally Posted by White_Unifier View Post

Sometimes projections can backfire. For example, if a person doesn't want a majority government, is planning on voting for Party A, and then learns that party A might form a majority, that knowledge alone could cause him to change his vote to Party B instead.


Yes- and sometimes it is just easier for LIE-beral supporters to get behind NDP instead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As ETFO- our ONTARI-OWE elementary school teachers- did back in June when Wynne-bag LIE-berals FAILED to supply the new gobs of gravy the HOGS were demanding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



LIE-BERAL supporters are only in it for the gravy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So they have NO LOYALTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And they support whomever gives them the biggest gobs of gravy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Which is why NDPer Horwath is opposition leader instead of also ran nobody!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our idiot Boy should take heed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
Colpy
Conservative
#212
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

What on earth does any of that have to do with liberty?

How are the conservatives any more about liberty than the NDP or the Liberals.

That conservatives problem is that they are not a big tent and have never been a big tent.

Look at the french/english divide.

Lots of conservatives in both camps but they hate each other too much to ever unite.

Ford in Ontario is a perfect example.

Really?


First of all, LIBERTARIAN..............the faction we were discussing, takes the very name from liberty.


Secondly..........here is some reality, as I am wont to bless you with:


2011 election. Conservatives - 39.62% Liberals - 18.91%
2015 election. Conservatives - 31.89% Liberals - 39.47%


Last election when any party has taken more than 50%; 1984 Progressive Conservative win: 50.03%


The only other election since the end of World War Two in which a party took more than 50%; 1958 Progressive Conservative win: 53.67%


Not even Trudeau the Elder managed 50%.


But somehow, despite recent elections with the Conservative Party, and older elections with the PCs getting more of the votes than the Liberals ever did, you think the Conservative Party is not a "big tent" party, but the Liberal Party does meet that standard.


You really do have a strange notion of reality.
 
Hoid
#213
There is no popular vote in Canada all that counts are seats in parliament.

Trudeau the elder led 2 majority governments (meaning the liberals held more than 50% of the seats) in 68 and 80.

The only time conservative governments manage majorities are when people are pissed with the Liberals.
 
DaSleeper
+1
#214
And he realy screwed the country in many ways..................



Direct from Mentafloss.....his sponsor......


 
Colpy
Conservative
+1
#215
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

There is no popular vote in Canada all that counts are seats in parliament.

Trudeau the elder led 2 majority governments (meaning the liberals held more than 50% of the seats) in 68 and 80.

The only time conservative governments manage majorities are when people are pissed with the Liberals.


OMG


Face palm.


A "big tent" party, by definition, is one that attracts a very significant portion of the population, which means it attracts people with a significant variance in their political philosophy.


It has nothing to do with election results, except that those results inevitably reflect the success and scope of the "big tent".


That's why only two parties rule in Canada......the two really "big tent" parties.....the Conservatives and the Liberals.
 
Hoid
#216
As I have tried to point out to you the way that the liberals in ontraio and quebec unite under one banner is impossible for the conservatives to replicate because they hate each other.
 
Colpy
Conservative
+1
#217
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

As I have tried to point out to you the way that the liberals in ontraio and quebec unite under one banner is impossible for the conservatives to replicate because they hate each other.


Tell that to Mulroney.


BTW, is the fact the Liberals hold a mere handful of seats in the west make the Liberal Party NOT a "big tent" party?
 
Hoid
#218
Mulroney already knows, and yes, the Liberals are a big tent party because they have support in every province.

That's why they are basically always in power
 
Colpy
Conservative
+4
#219
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Mulroney already knows, and yes, the Liberals are a big tent party because they have support in every province.

That's why they are basically always in power


OMG.


In 2011, the Conservatives took a higher percentage than the Liberals......double their vote, in fact.


In 2015, the Liberals took less than the Conservatives did in 2011.......but, according to you, that makes the Liberals a "big tent" party, and the Conservatives not.


Now, I do understand that you are a troll, that you only put statements out there to arouse a reaction, no matter if they are nonsense or not.


I suppose after the Conservative Party wins in 2019, they still won't be a "big tent" party, according to the (ever changing) gospel of Hoid.


Seriously, please, just quit spouting nonsense.
 
spilledthebeer
+1
#220
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Mulroney already knows, and yes, the Liberals are a big tent party because they have support in every province.

That's why they are basically always in power




POOR STUPID HOID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals hold power because of BRIBERY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals have REPEATEDLY PROVED that you CAN BUY a Cdn govt if you throw out enough money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The BIG PROBLEM LIE-berals currently face is what to do after the Bribe money runs out and they are forced to run on policies based on common sense and LOGIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!






Here is a fine example of the grotesque conflict of interest that civil service union Hogs and their LIE-beral allies are engaged in! UNIONS AND LIE-berals and their Hog allies are actually engaged in subverting democracy! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Unions pool resources to fight Ford

By Michelle McQuigge.

Published December 21, 2018

TORONTO - The Ontario government is about to start facing co-ordinated opposition from two of the country's largest unions bent on stopping what they describe as Premier Doug Ford's "destructive agenda."

The heads of both Unifor and the Ontario Public Service Employees Union announced their alliance in the wake of Ford's reaction to General Motors' planned plant closure in Oshawa, Ont., saying the premier's comments indicate his priorities do not lie with everyday workers.

Ford said last week that there's nothing his government can do to convince the automaker to change course, adding the company's president had told him, "the ship has already left the dock."

(The federal govt has just written of a couple of billion dollars in “loans” that Our idiot BOY and his LIE-berals have decided can never be collected -which had been offered to GM back in 2008!)

(And of course the wretched greedy unions quite IGNORE the reality that every penny offered over the years to GM had to be ripped out of the pockets of other Cdns- who were making products that people actually WANTED to buy!!!!!!!!!!!)

And to put the CAPPER ON THIS CRAPPER DEAL - LIE-berals are SHAMELESSLY BUYING the votes of the Hogs! It is bribery plain and simple and would not be permitted if the Conservatives were so engaged! But as long as LIE-berals benefit then its no harm and no foul!)

(And if you dont think the LIE-beral deal is fair then you can go whine to a HOG from elections Canada! And the same pro LIE-beral rule bending allows Hogs to IGNORE the election spending rules that Conservatives are bound by!))

The union leaders contend that Ford and his Progressive Conservative government are more focused on corporate interests than the concerns of frontline workers and vow the two unions, with a combined membership of about 470,000 people, will be fighting back.

(Fighting back!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And what were they doing in the June provincial election? VOTING FORD?????)

(WE KNOW the truth- that the Hog unions have now switched their support to NDP in hopes of getting them to supply the gravy that LIE-berals cannot!)

OPSEU President Warren "Smokey" Thomas said a weakened private sector will limit any government's ability to collect taxes and fund public services, adding pushing back against Ford would benefit all Ontario residents.

(Too bad the union HYPOCRITES do not recognize that it is LIE-beral taxes- needed to support the Hog gravy train that are weakening our economy! Hogs have been so entitled for so long they THINK THEY ARE the economy!)

"We understand that public services are the great equalizer in society," Thomas said in a telephone interview. "It's in both our best interests, for our members and for society, to work together and co-ordinate our efforts and see if we can't back Mr. Ford up in some of his policies and encourage him to reinvest in public services."

(I recognize the value of private sector unions as I have been a member - big corporations require corresponding unions for balance- but private sector unions have self correcting mechanisms built in- meaning that companies can fire workers or even close up shop and go set up elsewhere if union demands get to high!)

(The idea that civil service unions - with their monopoly strangle hold on various essential services- that they use relentlessly with LIE-berals to extort HUGE wage and pension payments from us like some sort of legalized public Mafia - is doing some good to “equalize” society is utterly delusional!)

(Hogs merely ensure the private sector is LOOTED AND PILLAGED for the benefit of a GREEDY AND GROSSLY PRIVILEGED FEW! No Hog can honestly explain why the Hog stamping your $100 water bill as “paid” should be earning way more than the cashier at your grocery store totaling up your $150 grocery bill!!!!!!!!!))

Thomas said the alliance, announced at Unifor's Ontario Regional Council meeting held over the weekend, was prompted largely by Ford's reaction to news that GM planned to shutter its Oshawa plant next year, taking at least 2,500 jobs with it.

Ford has said union leaders and politicians who talk about saving the Oshawa plant are selling "false hope," adding that his government would help the affected workers find new jobs.

(The greedy Hogs do not want ot talk about how much money would have to be ripped from the pockets of other Cdns to “save” GM! Even senior GM officers know that any new Hog deal to save GM will NOT pass public scrutiny as it would be TOO COSTLY!)

(There is an over supply of cars around the world and the least popular models MUST CEASE production in Canada- unless Cdns want to end up being FORCED - by LIE-beral meddling in auto markets - to start driving the LIE-beral Cdn equivalent of a costly, ugly and unreliable East German Trabant!!!!!!!!)

Both Thomas and Unifor National President Jerry Dias said Ford's reaction wasn't good enough. Thomas also criticized the premier for giving $34.5 million to Maple Leaf Foods for the construction of a consolidated plant in London, Ont., despite the fact the company will be shedding 300 net jobs by closing three other facilities in the province.

(As mentioned- GM just had TWO BILLION DOLLARS IN “LOANS” wiped out- and it still isnt enough to persuade them to STAY! By comparison- giving $34.5 million to a company that is COMMITTED to Ontari-owe is small beans! With the added political bonus that the deal was ORGANIZED under Wynne-bag LIE-berals and was far enough along when Ford was elected that Ford did not feel right about canceling at the last second- and putting Cdns out of work!!!!!!!!!!!!!! )

In a statement announcing their collaboration, Dias said Ford has given the two unions even more reasons to push back against his agenda.

(And HOW MUCH would it take to get GM to stay in Oshawa? Two billion was NOT enough! So- Five billion? Ten billion? Fifteen billion? GM is leaving in spite of Oshawa GM workers being consistent winners of quality control studies! If GM can walk away from its BEST WORKERS- then the situation is Un-salvageable and Ford is wise not to give away the store!)

"Between cowering to corporate interests, a dangerous public sector hiring freeze, and punishing the provinces' most vulnerable workers, Doug Ford has clearly shown his playbook," Dias said in the statement. "It's one attack after another against working people and our families."

(Ontari-owe has a $16 billion dollar deficit- and it will BE HIGHER NEXT YEAR thanks to the 4 year contracts LIE-berals signed with Hogs just before the election defeat! Our provincial budget MUST GROW by 2 percent every year for 4 years to cover the LIE-beral pay raises offered to Hogs!)

(By ignoring the size of the deficits and the GROSS conflict of interest Hogs are engaged in with LIE-berals and by demanding that GM- with its unpopular products- be saved for a privileged few- at the expense of many; the Hogs are spitting in the faces of ordinary Cdns who will have to pay for this Hog feather bedding and patronage and shameless LIE-beral vote buying!!!!!!!!!!!!)

The premier's office did not immediately respond to request for comment.

(No- I am sure the premiers office was to busy considering the abysmal arrogance of the Hogs in demanding even more gravy, to come up with a polite comment!)

Thomas said the two union leaders had joined forces before, swelling picket lines and mobilizing protests during health-care sector strikes in the Ontario communities of Owen Sound and Thunder Bay.

(Hog really should pull back and consider just how poisoned their version of democracy really is! Frankly there is a growing ground swell of public opinion that maybe Hogs ought NOT to be allowed to vote directly for their political bosses- due to that previously mentioned gross conflict of interest!

This time around, he said it made sense for the two groups to "co-ordinate efforts" by lobbying legislators and speaking up against government moves that the unions feel could jeopardize workers.

Thomas said the unions will also push to reinstate some labour-related measures introduced by the former Liberal regime that have been reversed by the Ford government, including a $15 minimum wage that was planned for next year and more lenient sick day policies.

(In other words Hogs are throwing out CRUMBS to the general public in hope of making union PILLAGING of our tax revenue more palatable! The minimum wage pay raise offered in 2018 by Wynne-bag LIE-berals did NOTHING for ordinary people since ALL of it- and more- was TAXED BACK by greedy LIE-berals who excel at the art of bait and switch- with Hog aid!!!!!!!!)

Thomas said the unions will try to see those measures put back in place through individual bargaining efforts.

(Hogs will be having a VERY HARD TIME navigating our political mine field in 2019- since Our idiot Boy and his loser LIE-berals had promised in 2015 to “save the middle class” and of course that middle class is now paying several thousand dollars in new fees and taxes! LIE-berals excel at grandly making a show of putting pennies into one pocket while RIPPING DOLLARS out of the other pocket!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Robbing Peter to pay Paul is only enjoyable if you are a LIE-beral loving Hog!)
 
Hoid
#221
Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

OMG.


In 2011, the Conservatives took a higher percentage than the Liberals......double their vote, in fact.


In 2015, the Liberals took less than the Conservatives did in 2011.......but, according to you, that makes the Liberals a "big tent" party, and the Conservatives not.


Now, I do understand that you are a troll, that you only put statements out there to arouse a reaction, no matter if they are nonsense or not.


I suppose after the Conservative Party wins in 2019, they still won't be a "big tent" party, according to the (ever changing) gospel of Hoid.


Seriously, please, just quit spouting nonsense.

The big tent is the support from french and english, man and woman.

in 2011 the conservatives won because the liberals fell. Part of that fall was the tories taking the government. Another part was the NDP rising to second place.

The conservatives only win when Canadians are fed up with the liberals.

As I have already noted
 
Dixie Cup
Conservative
+1
#222
Where are the government watchdogs that are supposed to ensure that there is no interference by corporations or unions in elections? Are the ethic's commissions only for Federal Elections? Do those two unions have the support of all 470,000 members? I some how doubt it.


Those unions should be decertified for not having their members vote on what, if any, actions should be taken on their behalf. As far as I can see, it's the VERY well paid upper echelon of the unions making decisions arbitrarily with the members having no say in the decision making at all. But I guess that's been an on-going issue that the members should be raising hell about!
 
spilledthebeer
#223
Quote: Originally Posted by Dixie Cup View Post

Where are the government watchdogs that are supposed to ensure that there is no interference by corporations or unions in elections? Are the ethic's commissions only for Federal Elections? Do those two unions have the support of all 470,000 members? I some how doubt it.


Those unions should be decertified for not having their members vote on what, if any, actions should be taken on their behalf. As far as I can see, it's the VERY well paid upper echelon of the unions making decisions arbitrarily with the members having no say in the decision making at all. But I guess that's been an on-going issue that the members should be raising hell about!






OH Dixie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You are NOT PAYING ATTENTION HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The watch dogs ARE ALL CIVIL SERVICE UNION HOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The watch dogs benefit just as much as other Hogs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As I have repeatedly said" LIE-berals and their union Hog allies are engaged in a HUGE CONFLICT OF INTEREST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And Our idiot Boy Justin and his loser LIE-berals are set to make the conflict even bigger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Consider:






Here is an article illustrating how radicals are taking over our school system and poisoning our kids minds! With some comments of my own in brackets):

B.C. dad says high school assignment suggests racism, misogyny are right-wing beliefs

F|rom Canadian Press, Published: October 5, 2018, Updated:
October 5, 2018 7:13 AM EDT

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ News/ Canada

VICTORIA — An assignment that asked students at a high school in British Columbia to identify the political leanings of racists and immigration opponents showed a bias against people with right-wing views, says a father whose son was given the worksheet.

Matt deFouw said he took his concerns about the worksheet to the Kamloops-Thompson School District, which launched an investigation.

B.C.’s Education Ministry said in a statement Thursday the worksheet is not part of the school curriculum and it will not be used again in the district.

“Essentially, all the questions on only one piece of paper paint people, even right-of-centre people, as xenophobic, misogynist racists who want to enact a brutal police state that wiretaps and executes its citizens,” deFouw said in an interview.

(And of course LIE-berals are fostering a climate where Xenophobia against western civilization and the rule of law can flourish! LIE-berals think drunken native thieves should have more rights than white property owners! LIE-berals want us all to believe that white males are problem in any situation! LIE-berals want us to close our eyes to crime of any sort and they even want us to evolve mentally to the point where we shrug off Muslim terror in the sme way we deal with blizzards and tornados!)

(What LIE-berals are trying to do is gain total control of our minds- so they can persuade us to accept whatever crap they hand us without being critical! LIE-berals are engaged in a creeping political coup! Their values are a CANCER eating at our society!)

He posted the worksheet from his son’s Grade 10 social studies class on his Facebook page. The school district confirmed that it was part of an assignment at Valleyview Secondary School.

“One question is, ‘Who is a racist?’ ” said deFouw. “And the answer is right-wing people. That’s about as clear as you need to be. Another example of a question was, ‘Who believes that women should stay home and be mothers?’ The answer is right wing.”

(Too bad Statscan says MOST WOMEN would like to be “stay at home Moms”! But few women can afford this so they are seeking day care solutions- and again most women would prefer to leave the kids with a grandparent or other relative! Reality is that few parents want their kids stored all day in large govt warehouses!)

The assignment included 10 questions. DeFouw’s Facebook post included the answers provided to the students by their teacher.

Those on the left wing were identified as “A person who believes that Canada should send aid to Third World countries” and “A person who believes that the school strap should be abolished.”

(Former Peace Corp volunteer and Nobel Peace Prize winner and celebrated author Paul Theroux- who lived and taught school in Africa for many years- says we are WASTING our money by sending foreign aid -and that we are undermining third world countries with our misguided charity!)

(Other “fill in the blank” style questions included such LIE-beral gems as these:
Question: Who believes convicted murderers should be hanged?
Teachers answer is “right wing”.

(Yes- LIE-berals would much prefer to find excuses to suck up to criminals in exchange for VOTES! This is why Chretien era LIE-berals gave convicted criminals the RIGHT TO VOTE!)

Question: Who is racist?
Teachers answer is “right wing”.

(LIE-berals refuse to recognize their own racist crap!)

Question: Who believes that Canada should restrict immigration?
Teacher answers: “right wing”.

(Uh huh- it is easy to sell kids on kindness and compassion- UNTIL it is their pay cheques being ravaged to pay for LIE-beral generosity and shameless vote buying! At that point ALL Cdns get just a little RIGHT!)

Question: Who believes Canada should acquire more sophisticated weapons?
Teacher answers “right wing”.

(Clearly this teacher is persuading kids that ONLY the most radical of LIE-beral policies are socially acceptable! LIE-beral values are so twisted they think it is ILLEGAL for anybody THY DON’T LIKE -to defend themselves! Such bigotry goes way beyond the teachers mandate to educate our kids! And again this LIE-beral value will be trashed just as soon as bullied kids get the connection between the LIE-beral version of peace- and the SURRENDER of the west to Islam!)

The district released a statement from the school principal dated Oct. 2 that was sent to deFouw. It says there was a meeting with the teacher and “although there was no intent to cause confusion for students, the teacher acknowledged that the Social Studies worksheet did not present a balanced view of the political spectrum and it was an over simplification of a very complex issue.”

(As always we should assume this LIE-beral biassed crap is the tip of a very racist iceberg- considering how often teachers are being caught out poisoning our kids minds! In order to get a teaching job, one must meet union standards and those standards are clearly at odds with the values of main stream Canada!)

Bill Hamblett, the school district’s assistant superintendent, said its investigation is ongoing and will include interviews with the teacher and the student.

“Racism doesn’t belong to one political stripe,” said Hamblett. “We’re well aware of that.”

(Oh yes- our educators are only to happy to be fair minded - AFTER getting caught out! Anti white racism is growing in our school system and it is being well fed by LIE-beral Fake News - ALLIED with that TWISTED LIE-beral curriculum that is yet another attempt to BUY votes for LIE-berals!)

He said he hadn’t heard from the Education Ministry that the worksheet should not be used again, but “if they are saying that, that makes sense.”

(NO EXPLICIT ORDER NOT to use the racist work sheet in future? Does that mean IT WILL REAPPEAR on kids desks? With B.C. in the hands of NDP- those IDIOT COUSINS of LIE-berals who hold even more extreme views- there is virtually NO CHANCE the education minister will take issue with this official anti white program!!!! LIE-berals and their idiot socialist allies of NDP and Green Party LOVE IT that we are too often unable to find the time needed to fully track and fight their poison!)

DeFouw said officials from the school district spoke with his son Thursday and he’s pleased his concerns were taken seriously.

(Yes- no doubt he is pleased- but if he expects those teachers to change their ways he is DELUDING himself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In a class of several dozen kids- he is apparently the only parent who NOTICED AND COMPLAINED that the teacher was poisoning kids minds! LIE-berals count on this parental ignorance and lack of attention to push their poisoned agenda!!!!!!!!!!)

(Always arrogant LIE-berals insist they are “The way and the LIGHT “ in all things - in spite of all the polls showing how many Cdns are growing DISGUSTED with the endless LIE-beral FAILINGS!!!!!!!!!!)
 
Colpy
Conservative
#224
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

The big tent is the support from french and english, man and woman.

in 2011 the conservatives won because the liberals fell. Part of that fall was the tories taking the government. Another part was the NDP rising to second place.

The conservatives only win when Canadians are fed up with the liberals.

As I have already noted


The big tent is the support from french and english, man and woman.

As does the Conservative Party of Canada.

in 2011 the conservatives won because the liberals fell.

Yep. Just like the Liberals won in 2015 because the Conservatives fell........with slightly less of the proportion the Conservatives got in 2011. That is the way Canadian politics works.

The conservatives only win when Canadians are fed up with the liberals.

And the Liberals only get in when the Conservatives fall. That is the way Canadian politics works.
 
spilledthebeer
+1
#225
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

There is no popular vote in Canada all that counts are seats in parliament.

Trudeau the elder led 2 majority governments (meaning the liberals held more than 50% of the seats) in 68 and 80.

The only time conservative governments manage majorities are when people are pissed with the Liberals.




OH HOID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So you ADMIT that LIE-berals are BUYING their votes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And when the money runs out- then LIE-berals are GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Here is an article explaining WHY LIE-berals are running out of money and illustrating the usual lack of efficiency at Revenue Canada! With some comments of my own in brackets):

From: BUSINESS, Huffington Post
05/24/2018 14:30 EDT | Updated 05/24/2018 16:03 EDT

CRA Uncovers Nearly $600 Million In Unpaid Taxes On B.C., Ontario Real Estate

But this could just be the tip of the iceberg.

By Daniel Tencer

The Canada Revenue Agency headquarters in Ottawa, Nov. 4, 2011. CRA has identified nearly $600 million in unpaid taxes on real estate transactions since it began keeping a closer eye on the British Columbia and Ontario real estate markets in 2015.

(Isnt that AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In late 2014 or thereabouts- our vaunted CRA tax hunters were lambasted for IGNORING foreign tax evaders who owed large tax sums and of concentrating their efforts on Cdns who owed SMALL tax sums! The reason given for massacring the little fish and letting the big ones off the hook is because it TOOK TOO LONG and cost to much to chase foreigners who were hiding either themselves or many of their assets off shore!)

(Yes- CRA decided it was better to chase PENNIES than dollars! But that was then- and Stephen Harper was PM and our civil service union Hogs liked to VEX Harper! But now Our idiot Boy and his loser LIE-berals are in charge and suddenly CRA is all over those foreign tax cheats!)

(And of course that skin flint Harper would have simply put any taxes - owing and collected - into general revenue! But Our idiot Boy has sworn to “save the middle class” so Hogs are beating the bushes looking for new gravy for LIE-berals to hand out to the Hogs! The Hog arrogance is amazing!!!!!!!!!!!)

Canada Revenue Agency has identified nearly $600 million in unpaid taxes on real estate transactions since it began keeping a closer eye on the British Columbia and Ontario real estate markets in 2015, the agency said in a recent report.

(Yes- its all a matter of priorities- and Harper and Conservatives HAD NO pull with CRA Hogs! But LIE-berals are more generous with gravy and LIE-berals work better with Hogs in that grand conflict of shameless LIE-beral vote buying! So the Hogs have set foreign house speculators as a target to help LIE-berals control housing costs out west!)

(Our Hogs re not motivated by what is right- their only interestIS MORE GRAVY and they need LIE-berals in charge to feed the gravy train!)

However, much of that money has to do with CRA rejecting GST/HST rebates to home buyers.

Of the $592.6 million in additional taxes the agency identified, roughly half had to do with claims for GST/HST rebates that it said were unjustified. Buyers of new or significantly refurbished properties have to pay GST/HST, but there is a partial rebate available to those buying a principal residence.

(In other words- Cdn LIE-beral tax law has become so convoluted that even CRA cannot keep up with it! Many Cdns will recall the scandal in spring 2018 when it was revealed just how many callers to CRA Advice Lines were getting WRONG ANSWERS from CRA!)

But the CRA also found unpaid income taxes on real estate transactions — about $76.8 million in unpaid taxes in B.C., nearly twice as much as the agency found in Ontario ($39.5 million), despite Ontario's considerably larger population.

(Uh huh, and we ALL KNOW that foreign house speculators are quite often laundering dirty money in our real estate markets! And Cdn real estate is now listed for sale on web sites in Red China! It is Canada being treated as the sucker nation of the world while Our idiot Boy Justin tries to suck up to Beijing while sneering at Yankees!)

(No wonder it took LIE-berals a while to decide which way to jump on this tax deal! On the one hand- LIE-berals are DELIGHTED to collect sales tax and income tax from real estate agents and their customers!)

(On the other hand Canada was getting an UGLY REPUTATION for being a great place to launder dirty money- and that money laundering is driving up the price of Cdn real estate to the point that too many Cdns CANNOT afford to live in their own cities!)

(And our Yankee allies are worried about spill overs of Cdn organized crime across their borders so they want us to tighten up! So is it possible that during the NAFTA negotiations- that Trump made a few discreet “requests” regarding putting a halt to Cdn money laundering?)

"Since 2015, the economic factors in the Greater Toronto Area and the Lower Mainland of British Columbia, such as high-valued markets combined with rapid price increases, have further increased the risk of tax non-compliance," a CRA spokesperson told HuffPost Canada in an email.

The amount of unpaid taxes identified by the agency has been on the rise. The agency found some $102 million more in unpaid taxes during the 2016-2017 period than it did in the year before that, and penalties have been on the rise as well, totalling $43.1 million since 2015.

CRA did not provide numbers on how much of this money owed has been collected.

(No and it is likely CRA WILL NOT ever tell how much back tax has been collected! But if it is anything like the amount of rent arrears that Metro Toronto Housing Authority is owed- without being able to collect - then the tax that has actually been collected IS A PITTANCE- compared to what is owing!!!!!!!!!)

The agency says its main focus in this area has been on property flipping; unreported GST/HST on the sale of new or refurbished properties; unjustified housing rebate claims; and "questionable sources of funds/worldwide income."

(So they mean money laundering and deliberate tax cheats!)

However, the CRA report did not provide data on whether any unpaid taxes were found due to "questionable sources of funds." And the agency's numbers, which look at taxes owed on real estate transactions, provide little insight into some of the more egregious allegations of wrongdoing in Canada's hottest housing markets.

Anti-corruption groups such as Transparency International (TI) have been warning that British Columbia's real estate market in particular is becoming a hotbed of money laundering. They say Canada has deficiencies in its real estate regulations that allow illicit money to flow into the housing market, potentially inflating prices.

(Oh- I would suggest we don’t have deficiencies in our regulations- rather it is a TOTAL LACK of REAL enforcement of our existing legislation by LIE-berals and Hogs! We have only to look at how successful LIE-berals have been in keeping illegal guns and hard drugs- including fentanyl- out of the hands of Cdns to recognize that LIE-berals consider real law enforcement to be a COSTLY BORE!)

As of 2016, the government did not know who actually owned half of Vancouver's 100 priciest homes, a TI report said.

(LIE-berals are merely going through the motions when it comes to law enforcement of any real sort! Catching and jailing criminals would cut into their supply of gravy too badly! And Cdns pay the price in multiple ways - including higher real estate prices- with LIE-berals GETTING THEIR CUT of the dirty money in the form of higher sales taxes!!!!!!)

But things are changing in this regard. British Columbia's provincial government announced plans earlier this year to require the "beneficial owner" of a property to be named. In other words, owners of residential real estate will find it much harder to hide behind numbered companies or intermediaries in order to obscure who really owns a property.

And starting this year, Canada will begin sharing tax information with at least 90 countries that have signed on to an initiative from the OECD called the "Common Reporting Standard." Among those countries is China, from which hail many of B.C. and Ontario's foreign buyers of real estate.

(Uh huh, and will China be willing to rat out its own citizens who are bringing hard currency into China from Cdn markets? Especially when those Chinese citizens are often high ranking members of the military and govt? I think China will NOT honestly aid Cdn tax collectors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
 
Curious Cdn
No Party Affiliation
#226
The Canada Revenue Agency headquarters in Ottawa, Nov. 4, 2011. CRA has identified nearly $600 million in unpaid taxes on real estate transactions since it began keeping a closer eye on the British Columbia and Ontario real estate markets in 2015.

I find it hard to believe that the figure is so low.
 
Hoid
#227
Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

The big tent is the support from french and english, man and woman.

As does the Conservative Party of Canada.

They have 11 seats, fewer than the NDP and not even in the ballpark of the 40 the Liberals hold.

They hold 0 seats east o Quebec.

They are not a big tent and they never will be because their racist nature makes them hate one another
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#228
didn't the Cons just win an election on the East Coast
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#229
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

They have 11 seats, fewer than the NDP and not even in the ballpark of the 40 the Liberals hold.

They hold 0 seats east o Quebec.

They are not a big tent and they never will be because their racist nature makes them hate one another


And of course YOU don't hate anybody!
 
pgs
Free Thinker
+1
#230
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

And of course YOU don't hate anybody!

Not even white natty climate change deniers ?
 
spilledthebeer
#231
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

Not even white natty climate change deniers ?


POOR HOID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He and his fellow LIE-berals are frantically trying to distract us from real national problems by inane discussions of how LIE-berals can


have a "clear majority" while getting a LOWER volume of votes than Harper- who LIE-beals claim "barely hung on" even though HIS



voter support was HIGHER than what Our idiot Boy got!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals have NEVER met a fact they could not twist into a pretzel for their own advantage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





Here is yet another article explaining why open and unregulated trade
with Red China - as Our idiot Boy and his loser LIE-berals are seeking, is a bad idea! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Asbestos in a Crayon, Benzene in a Marker: A School Supply Study’s Toxic Results

Crayola crayons tested negative for dangerous chemicals in a study by a consumer group, the United States Public Interest Research Group Education Fund. A green Playskool crayon tested positive for trace amounts of tremolite, a form of asbestos.

By Niraj Chokshi

Aug. 8, 2018

A public interest group said this week that it had found toxic substances in a number of school supplies, including asbestos in a Playskool crayon and another carcinogen, benzene, in a dry-erase marker.

The findings were detailed in a report published Tuesday by the group, the United States Public Interest Research Group Education Fund, which had an independent laboratory test 27 back-to-school products. Four tested positive for dangerous chemicals.

(Some will recall the huge scandal in China itself when it was discovered that Chinese milk producers were adding melamine to milk products to make them easier to handle and or to stretch out the supply quickly and cheaply- with the result that hundreds of babies sickened with some being crippled for life and others dying from consuming the toxic milk!)

“It’s insane for us to be finding asbestos in kids’ products, whether it’s technically legal or not, and parents shouldn’t have to worry about this in 2018,” said Dev Gowda, an author of the report who also directs the group’s campaign to persuade manufacturers to drop toxic substances from personal care products.

(China has a LONG history of shrugging off western concerns about all sorts of contaminants! One has only to think of Yankee frustration over Chinese indifference to western complaints about Chinese packing crates laced with Emerald Ash Boring beetles! The beetles and larvae could have been easily disposed of by kiln drying the wood prior to making the packing crates but Chinese officials refused- and they suggested that if Yankees had concerns then they should fumigate or kiln dry the packing crates in United States!)

(Chinese official have LIMITED concern for the environment at the best of times and they seem to delight in seeing what mischief they can make for Yankees! How Yankees were to be protected from the beetles AFTER contaminated crates loaded with product had ALREADY ARRIVED in the country did not concern the Chinese!)

(The result of Chinese non cooperation has been to see Emerald Ash Borers get FULLY ESTABLISHED in North America- with the result that govt is now cutting down tens of millions of Ash trees - killed by the beetles- with millions of Hickory trees also under threat as they are related to Ash trees and the beetles will probably get to the Hickory trees in time!)

(The extermination of an entire species of North American trees- just so we can keep buying cheap crap from China seems like a HUGE price to pay just to avoid annoying Chinese Soviet dictators!)

“We wish that we didn’t have to do a study like this, but the reality is that corporations — from manufacturers, distributors and retailers — aren’t doing this for us,” he said.

(Chinese producers have a LONG history of using lead, antimony and other toxic compounds in cheap jewelry and children`s toys as well! Chinese products MUST be constantly monitored by western agencies for alterations in chemical composition from one shipment to the next! Just because one shipment is clean does not mean the next one will be!)

The group tested crayons, markers, binders, water bottles, lunch boxes, notebooks, rulers and glue. The products were purchased nationwide at a variety of businesses, including box stores, dollar stores, pharmacies, arts and crafts stores, and online.

The group, which has been surveying toys for more than three decades, recommended that the companies that make or offer the products stop selling them and start notifying consumers about the chemicals they appear to contain.


It also called on policymakers to continue to support the Consumer Product Safety Commission, a federal agency, and urged the commission itself to test more school supplies for dangerous chemicals.

(Public opinion on this stuff is very much divided! Some people consider that access to cheap Chinese goods and maintaining happy relations with China should trump “minor issues” with a “few” products!)

Here’s a look at what the public interest group found:
Asbestos

Of the crayons tested, one, a green Playskool crayon, tested positive for trace amounts of tremolite, a form of asbestos. The crayon was part of a set of 36 manufactured by Leap Year Publishing and purchased at a Dollar Tree store.

Julie Duffy, a spokeswoman for Hasbro, which owns the Playskool brand, said that “product and children’s safety are top priorities” for the company.

“We are conducting a thorough investigation into these claims, including working with Leap Year, the licensee of the product,” she said in a statement.

(Uh huh- as I have said there is enough evidence available to suggest that ALL Chinese products should be viewed as suspect!)

In an email, John Sorenson, a spokesman for Leap Year Publishing, said that all of its products, including the green crayon mentioned in the report, “are thoroughly tested by independent labs” to meet or exceed federal standards.

“We are currently re-verifying that they are safe and free of any asbestos, as well as requesting a review of P.I.R.G.’s testing methods,” he said.

(Uh huh- and one must ask just how many shipments of Chinese goods are routinely tested? Chinese “quality control” is known rto be ERRATIC at best!!)

Tremolite is responsible for many cases of asbestos-related cancer and asbestos diseases, according to the Abramson Cancer Center at the University of Pennsylvania.

In a statement, Dollar Tree said it was aware of the report and had “since re-verified that each of the listed products successfully passed inspection and testing.”

(But can each shipment over a period of time pass? The answer seems to be NO!)

Crayons sold under five other brands — Crayola, Up & Up, Cra-Z-Art, Disney Junior Mickey and the Roadster Racers, and RoseArt — tested negative for asbestos, Benzene and related compounds

Four markers were sent to the laboratory, and two dry-erase ones tested positive for a group of compounds often found in petroleum products and known as B.T.E.X.: benzene, toluene, ethylbenzene and xylene.

One of those compounds, benzene, is a known carcinogen and was found in a package of six magnetic markers purchased on Amazon and produced by The Board Dudes, a brand owned by Mattel.

In a statement, Mattel said it took such reports seriously, “aggressively” tests its products and was reviewing the claims. The markers, the statement added, “contain substance levels that fall within the permissible limits.”

(And with nobody knowing- from one shipment to the next- what chemicals MAY be present- we should question just what dosage people are really getting! This is the great problem with China- each purchase is a crap shoot- fine several times and then suddenly bad next time!!!)

(I do recall watching a TVO documentary crew filming a rice farmer spraying insecticide onto his flooded paddy - with the substantial over spray splattering onto another flooded paddy where fish were being farmed! No Cdn who saw the film would ever eat those fish! And the amount of insect spray on the rice was a question mark as well!)

Benzene disrupts the normal functioning of cells, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Long-term exposure can have harmful effects on bone marrow and lead to a decrease in red blood cells.

An Expo dry-erase scented marker, also purchased on Amazon, tested positive for some of the B.T.E.X. compounds, though not benzene and none at levels considered worrying by toxicologists, according to the report.

(Still - some scientists suggest that CUMULATIVE EXPOSURE to various carcinogenic chemicals can add up to cancer -as the various chemicals sometimes react together as one! Legal levels of exposure to one chemical may be safe - but the dangerous truth often comes out if studying exposure to MULTIPLE chemicals at one time!)

In a statement, Expo said that it was aware of the report and that its products “meet all applicable regulatory and safety standards.”

Washable markers, from Crayola and Jot, tested negative.

In another set of tests, the public interest organization examined three sets of three-ring binders for phthalates, a group of chemicals added to plastics to make them flexible, some of which may affect human reproduction or development.

(With China having already displayed a savage disdain for human reproduction
with its ruthless implementation of the “one child per family” POLICY!)

Only one, a Jot-brand, 1-inch blue binder from Dollar Tree, tested positive. Binders sold under the Avery and Yoobi brands did not.

A version of this article appears in print on Aug. 9, 2018, on Page B4 of the New York edition with the headline: Back-to-School Surprise: Toxic Matter in Supplies.

(So we should assume that Chinese manufacturers are aware of the western legal requirements for chemical limits - but occasionally Chinese manufacturers slip over the line into illegal territory for fun and profit??? Since unscrupulous Chinese have demonstrated a willingness to poison their own people with the melamine milk mess- there is no reason to think they will take our health any more seriously!!!!)
 
Colpy
Conservative
+1
#232
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

They have 11 seats, fewer than the NDP and not even in the ballpark of the 40 the Liberals hold.

They hold 0 seats east o Quebec.

They are not a big tent and they never will be because their racist nature makes them hate one another


You do not even understand what you yourself write do you?


Just like a monkey with a typewriter.


The big tent is the support from french and english, man and woman. is what you wrote.

They have eleven seats in Quebec, not to mention all the other people of French extraction that voted for them.


Same in the east (where I live). No seats, but lots of (minority) support in the last election...........and, believe me, lots more in the coming election.


Right now, in the polls, the Liberals and the Conservatives are running neck and neck.


Lots of support from women.


This conversation is over, I'm tired of feed the troll.
 
Hoid
#233
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

And of course YOU don't hate anybody!

not even remotely the point.

the point is that there was a Macdonald/Cartier alliance.

nothing similar on the rightie side of the house because there's nothing an english rightie hates more than a frenchie, and vice versa.
 
Hoid
#234
RE: Right now, in the polls, the Liberals and the Conservatives are running neck and neck.

but the liberals and the ndp are able to embrace one another.

not so the conservatives. they are alone
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#235
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post


not so the conservatives. they are alone


Not really, they know the Liberals would embrace their support any time they offer it.
 
pgs
Free Thinker
#236
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

not even remotely the point.

the point is that there was a Macdonald/Cartier alliance.

nothing similar on the rightie side of the house because there's nothing an english rightie hates more than a frenchie, and vice versa.

Explain the support for Max Bernier ?
 
Curious Cdn
No Party Affiliation
#237
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

Explain the support for Max Bernier ?

Unfortunately, it is typical of the conservative movement in Canada.

I'm not going to take this crap, anymore! ... and they split off on form the People's Party/Reform Party/Alliance Party/Social Credit/Angry Tuffguy Whatever Party. The political right in Canada has a lot of angry, pissed off, judgemental "I'm not going to take anymore crap!!" types and it is constantly, perennially working against them. The Liberals may all be trained seals but they are better team players and therefore, form most of the government's in this country (unfortunately).

Here we are, again. The Republican Wannabes are splitting the Conservative Party for the umpteenth time. Angry, pissed off tough guys that don't take no crap are very poor learners.
 
Hoid
+1
#238
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

Explain the support for Max Bernier ?

Explain why one of the few french canadian conservatives left the party to start his own?

Because he understands that being in an english conservative party in quebec is a dead end.
 
spilledthebeer
#239
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

Explain the support for Max Bernier ?


It is odd how hard HOID works to divert arguments away from truth and reality of the sort that will HARM LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The truth is that Maxime Bernier actually represents the thinking of a LOT of people in Canada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


This is the HARD REALITY that LIE-berals do not want to discuss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


A while back during the Brett Kavanaugh dog and pony show a couple of my neighbours surprised me.........


A 55 year old woman openly MOCKED Blaisey Ford for telling obvious LIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And the woman went on to suggest that there should be a statute of limitations on such ALLEGED crimes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


This idea of a statute of limitations on crimes does not sit well with me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


WE know of cases where the developing science of DNA and genetic evidence was able to provide enough proof to overcome old convictions- thus the idea of a statute of limitations seems wrong to me in a case were GENUINE NEW EVIDENCE has become available!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The problem with Blaisey Ford of course is that THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF ANY SORT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


My neighbour woman pointed out what I took to be female logic by stating the alleged attack either did not happen- or did not happen as Blaisey Ford claimed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Female neighbour stated that women being of the mind set they are- Blaisey Ford WOULD HAVE CONFIDED in a friend shortly after such an attack............though this statement of course proves nothing much EITHER WAY about Blasiey Ford!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


But the fact that an average CDN woman would dismiss Blasiey Ford as a liar was interesting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


My male neighbour focused on the same stuff I did- that she was drunk during the alleged attack and that in her own words- she was passing in and out of consciousness ........................and thus her assertion that about who allegedly attacked her is QUESTIONABLE!!!



And that she was face down in a bed and did not ever see the faces of those she alleges attacked her is significant as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



IF some real, honest, logical evidence ever surfaces regarding the Blaisey Ford crap then I think an honest trial would be fair!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But a LIE-beral Lynch Mob howling for Kavanaugh blood because they are angry at watching ALL their LIE-beral policies get trashed and flushed like nasty turds swirling down a toilet IS NOT A TRIAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals are losing out in all areas of society because their policies are based on GREED and arrogance and no amount of propaganda from Hoid or other Fake News purveyors can halt that slide into political oblivion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#240
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

It is odd how hard HOID works to divert arguments away from truth and reality.


There's a few on here who do that!
 

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