Capitalism will save this world


OmegaOm
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#1141
Quote: Originally Posted by Angstrom View Post

Life is not entitled to survive. It must earn its right to live by competition. Nature has been like that for. Billions of years and achieved perfect balance.

May the best win. And the losers die. That way we woudnt have over population destroying earth. Competition of capitalism is the same as nature

True, thats the natural animal way.
But I thought we humans consider ourselves above the animals, because of our superior brains that can send a ship into space. Do we not have the ability to find a more harmonious way to live on this planet.

The way we are behaving, I think not.

The way we are going will destroy most life on this Earth very soon.

There is another solution somewhere. Just that capitalism is not one of them.
Last edited by OmegaOm; Dec 2nd, 2017 at 01:46 AM..
 
Angstrom
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#1142
Quote: Originally Posted by OmegaOm View Post

True, thats the natural animal way.
But I thought we humans consider ourselves above the animals, because of our superior brains that can send a ship into space. Do we not have the ability to find a more harmonious way to live on this planet.

The way we are behaving, I think not.

The way we are going will destroy most life on this Earth very soon.

There is another solution somewhere. Just that capitalism is not one of them.

NO i believe nature is more perfect then anything we could ever imagine. Im not pretending that i could outsmart nature. Competition is a necessary evil. Equality and communism will only doom us all into over population and the destruction of the ecosystem, from over consumption

Like in nature survival is something that neesa to be achieved individualy. Compromising that simple fundamental dooms us all into self destruction from over population

Reguardleas of how more intelligent you believe you are. Its the law of nature.

We are not above nature. This is the fundamental flaw in you’re opinion

The solution has existed for billions of years. We are the ones who have decided to act like a cancer by protecting & bubble wrapping everyone from their own stupidity

And like a cancer we will destroy the balance that has been achieved by nature for billions of years
 
OmegaOm
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#1143
Quote: Originally Posted by Angstrom View Post

Life is not entitled to survive. It must earn its right to live by competition.

Its communism that aims to protect all from natural competition that is causing overpopulation and the destruction of earth

Capitalism has ruled our world for hundreds of years and 100 years ago we had 2 billion people on the planet, now we have 7 billion. I can't see how thats evidence capitalism controls population.



Quote: Originally Posted by Angstrom View Post

NO i believe nature is more perfect then anything we could ever imagine. Im not pretending that i could outsmart nature. Competition is a necessary evil. Equality and communism will only doom us all into over population and the destruction of the ecosystem, from over consumption

Like in nature survival is something that neesa to be achieved individualy. Compromising that simple fundamental dooms us all into self destruction from over population

Reguardleas of how more intelligent you believe you are. Its the law of nature.

We are not above nature. This is the fundamental flaw in you’re opinion

The solution has existed for billions of years. We are the ones who have decided to act like a cancer by protecting & bubble wrapping everyone from their own stupidity

You may be right. That we can not fight nature. It will continue on its coarse no matter what we do.
Our world looks like it will continue to self annihilation. There is no turning back. Doesn't mean you have to support capitalism. Maybe there is a way to convince the masses and starve it off just in time.

...Or maybe natures intentions our for us to develop indestructible AI machines that will make us obsolete.
 
Angstrom
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#1144
We haven’t been under true capitalism since the Great Depression. Where it was judged to many died and suffered from the crash. Nature needs that or we will over populate and destroy the earth

We have been under a communist government ever since the Great Depression. We have a illusion of capitalism but its not capitalism at all.

Capitalism is deemed to cruel to humans. Like nature

Unfortunately competition is a necessity of the universe. Unless we want to doom the whole planet
 
Hoof Hearted
#1145
Stupid, lazy people like Communism. Smart, energetic people like Capitalism.

But I really don't know where we're going with the Millennial generation...because they're all smart but lazy. They inhabit characteristics of both sides of the equation.
 
Angstrom
#1146
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoof Hearted View Post

Stupid, lazy people like Communism. Smart, energetic people like Capitalism.

But I really don't know where we're going with the Millennial generation...because they're all smart but lazy. They inhabit characteristics of both sides of the equation.

They will gravitate towards the path of lease resistance.

The majority of humans will work just hard enough to achieve their personal goals
 
OmegaOm
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#1147
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoof Hearted View Post

Stupid, lazy people like Communism. Smart, energetic people like Capitalism.

But I really don't know where we're going with the Millennial generation...because they're all smart but lazy. They inhabit characteristics of both sides of the equation.

I take it your a 24hr a day entrepreneur. Why do you have to have a desire to make, market and sell things to become successful, anyway.
Would you say the Amish are lazy by not doing it the capitalistic way. They live and work hard like the old days.
 
Angstrom
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#1148
Quote: Originally Posted by OmegaOm View Post

I take it your a 24hr a day entrepreneur. Why do you have to have a desire to make, market and sell things to become successful, anyway.
Would you say the Amish are lazy by not doing it the capitalistic way. They live and work hard like the old days.

They sell Amish made goods and do very well for themselves im not sure how thats not capitalizing. I don’t think you really know what capitalism is.
 
OmegaOm
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#1149
Quote: Originally Posted by Angstrom View Post

They sell Amish made goods and do very well for themselves im not sure how thats not capitalizing. I don’t think you really know what capitalism is.

Trade is not capitalism. Capitalism is the private act of business rather than government act of business, one versus whole, Basically the selfish. The Amish trade as a whole.
 
Walter
#1150
Quote: Originally Posted by OmegaOm View Post

I take it your a 24hr a day entrepreneur. Why do you have to have a desire to make, market and sell things to become successful, anyway.
Would you say the Amish are lazy by not doing it the capitalistic way. They live and work hard like the old days.

The Amish are a capitalistic as they come, ever been to a stockyard or farmers market or driven by their farms and read the signs at the end of their lanes.

Quote: Originally Posted by OmegaOm View Post

Trade is not capitalism. Capitalism is the private act of business rather than government act of business, one versus whole, Basically the selfish. The Amish trade as a whole.

There is nothing more capitalistic than trade.
n.
An economic system in which the means of production and distribution are privately or corporately owned and development is proportionate to the accumulation and reinvestment of profits gained in a free market.
 
Curious Cdn
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#1151
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

The Amish are a capitalistic as they come, ever been to a stockyard or farmers market or driven by their farms and read the signs at the end of their lanes.

The Mennonite businesses that I have dealt with are slick, efficient and cutting edge. Some of them may still clip-clop down the laneway in a gig but they don't screw around when it comes to doing business.
Last edited by Curious Cdn; Dec 2nd, 2017 at 08:10 AM..
 
pgs
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#1152
Quote: Originally Posted by OmegaOm View Post

I wouldn't call it a natural law. Maybe one way of survival.

The Indians survived just fine before whiteman came here without it.
They would go hunt and fish all day, then come home to dinner and love from the wife.
Now we have to grind a 40 hr week doing the same boring stupid task until we retire old then die.

Ever hear of the Grease Trail ? Coastal natives travelled this trail trading with inland tribes . Trading is capitalism .
 
Tecumsehsbones
#1153
OK, now that we've established that pgs doesn't understand the terms he uses. . .
 
DaSleeper
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captain morgan
#1155
Quote: Originally Posted by OmegaOm View Post

I wouldn't call it a natural law. Maybe one way of survival.

The Indians survived just fine before whiteman came here without it.
They would go hunt and fish all day, then come home to dinner and love from the wife.
Now we have to grind a 40 hr week doing the same boring stupid task until we retire old then die.

That's a pretty brash statement to suggest that indians did just fine.... Neither you or I can make that judgement based on the limited info we have at hand
 
pgs
#1156
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

OK, now that we've established that pgs doesn't understand the terms he uses. . .

Which term do I not understand o mighty one ? Indians trading equals capitalism or Grease Trail ?
 
avro20
#1157
What nation has pure capitalism?
 
captain morgan
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#1158
Certain Middle East nations come pretty close
 
avro20
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#1159
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

Certain Middle East nations come pretty close

Yup.

Want to live there?
 
captain morgan
#1160
Was that supposed to be part of the original question?

Ever been to Dubai?
 
Walter
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#1161
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

Certain Middle East nations come pretty close

Nope. Closest to pure capitalism would be Hong Kong pre 1997 and today maybe Singapore.
 
Angstrom
#1162
Nature has always had some kind of difficulty to achieve survival, we must not look to legislate everything in a way that eliminates as much difficulty as possible. Nature must be allowed to have some form of natural weeding out of the weak process. Competition must be allowed to continue as it has for billions of years. This can be achieved through Capitalism.

May the best win
 
Curious Cdn
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#1163
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Nope. Closest to pure capitalism would be Hong Kong pre 1997 and today maybe Singapore.

Somalia.
 
Angstrom
#1164
Communist looks to take from the winner of the natural survival competition and give some of the rewards to the lame ducks

Feeding all the lame ducks that wouldn’t have survived the test of natural survival competition leeds to overpopulation

And eventually. The self destruction of the ecosystem that keeps us all alive
 
HarperCons
#1165
Quote: Originally Posted by Angstrom View Post

Life is not entitled to survive. It must earn its right to live by competition. Nature has been like that for. Billions of years and achieved perfect balance.

May the best win. And the losers die. That way we woudnt have over population destroying earth. Competition of capitalism is the same as nature

Its communism that aims to protect all from natural competition that is causing overpopulation and the destruction of earth

hahahaha what babbling idiocy. not only do you have completely reprehensible ideas on life, your idea of what capitalism is has been totally invented in your mind. your invented idea of capitalism, which is i guess some sort of deranged social Darwinism, is probably something we've never seen, the closest we'd see to you 'every man for himself' mentality we'd have to go back to early humanity, and even then cooperation was predominant.

also your misconstrued idea of what communism is doesn't make any sense either. it's capitalism that stomps out "natural competition" with monopolies. it's under capitalism that we've grown to 7 billion people (whether in fact the earth is even overpopulated is another argument altogether). communism solely seeks to give back to the working class what they rightfully laboured for.
 
Angstrom
#1166
The only thing capitalism has done to help growth of population is innovation of food production process. Making it much cheaper to produce massive amounts of food to feed more population.

It hasn’t worked to keep billions of humans alive that have absolutely no intentions of producing anything like communism has.

If there is only one negative side to capitalism it is that it has made communism possible by financing it through mass production efficiency

Point & match.

Who’s Next!?

Last edited by Angstrom; Dec 2nd, 2017 at 01:30 PM..
 
HarperCons
#1167
again you have no idea what you're talking about. you're not knowledgeable on either capitalism or communism. you have a rudimentary economics education at best, and that's being generous. your ideas are generally based on myths and not so much grounded in reality.
 
Angstrom
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#1168
What happened to Venezuela when all the capitalist capital gains dryed up when oil prices dropped like a rock? How’s their communism coping with the lost of revenue?



I can school you all day long if you like HarperCons. Communist ideologues like you are a dim a dozen on earth right now
Last edited by Angstrom; Dec 2nd, 2017 at 03:14 PM..
 
OmegaOm
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#1169
Say it again here is definition of capitalism

cap·i·tal·ism
ˈkapədlˌizəm/Submit
noun
an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.
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trade is not capitalism, its trade by private instead of government makes it capitalism
 
HarperCons
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#1170
Quote: Originally Posted by Angstrom View Post

What happened to Venezuela when all the capitalist capital gains dryed up when oil prices dropped like a rock? How’s their communism coping with the lost of revenue?



I can school you all day long if you like HarperCons. Communist ideologues like you are a dim a dozen on earth right now

venezuela has more private enterprises than they do public.
however venezuela doesn't want to sell their national resources out to capitalist plunderers, this makes them the enemy of america and target of economic terrorism.

Quote: Originally Posted by OmegaOm View Post

Say it again here is definition of capitalism

cap·i·tal·ism
ˈkapədlˌizəm/Submit
noun
an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.
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trade is not capitalism, its trade by private instead of government makes it capitalism

i see far too often these idiots, often trust fund teenagers that call themselves libertarians, define capitalism as simply trade. it's such a pathetic, lazy and simple idea of capitalism which sums up their ideology quite well.
 

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