If Americans knew more about the rest of the world.....


BruSan
#31
Historicly we have had a love hate relationship through our political leaders. I'm of the camp that would like more "recognition" by the U.S. but I'm also mature enough to know that's simply a senior citizens attitude towards those politicians that have ignored or projected us as that socialist bunch of commie nanny statists to the north.

Being a realist; the citizens of the U.S. are cognizant of other parts of the world having a possible negative impact on their daily lives via everything from financial communities to international trade while Canada being the single largest reliable supplier of imported oil and having a stable economy is simply not in their headlights as having any negative impacts on them at all. Ergo, ignore and carry on.
 
Someone
#32
or outside imports that eventually become American. I like variety.
You contradicted yourself.

Not really, in fact:

He seemed to have an issue with American pop culture being American or incorporated cultures from other nations.

p.s. Someone, you do realize that half of American pop culture is Canadian right? We've been taking their airwaves over for years and they haven't noticed...

That is what I'm talking about......

I'm currently in Australia, where Australian pop culture is Australian pop culture, but American pop culture is also mainstream, even though it remains American pop culture. No one would mistaken these American pop culture elements as Australian. I saw the same thing in the Philippines: there is Philippine pop culture, and then there is American/Western pop culture, which is just as mainstream, but no one will mistaken American pop elements as being Filipino.

But when Canadians, British, or Australians become part of American pop culture, I think its great..... except that people often tend to forget that these elements are not American. Or there is awareness, but not really. Not in the same league that Filipinos and Australians who watch programming from the United States know that it is from the United States.
Not true, either....
 
CDNBear
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#33
Quote: Originally Posted by Someone View Post

Or there is awareness, but not really.



You're right, but not really.
 
SLM
#34
Quote: Originally Posted by wulfie68 View Post

p.s. Someone, you do realize that half of American pop culture is Canadian right? We've been taking their airwaves over for years and they haven't noticed...

Yes and one day we will take over. One unknown Hollywood screenwriter at at time.
 
EagleSmack
#35
Quote: Originally Posted by Someone View Post

or outside imports that eventually become American. I like variety.
You contradicted yourself.

Not really, in fact:

He seemed to have an issue with American pop culture being American or incorporated cultures from other nations.

p.s. Someone, you do realize that half of American pop culture is Canadian right? We've been taking their airwaves over for years and they haven't noticed...

That is what I'm talking about......

I'm currently in Australia, where Australian pop culture is Australian pop culture, but American pop culture is also mainstream, even though it remains American pop culture. No one would mistaken these American pop culture elements as Australian. I saw the same thing in the Philippines: there is Philippine pop culture, and then there is American/Western pop culture, which is just as mainstream, but no one will mistaken American pop elements as being Filipino.

But when Canadians, British, or Australians become part of American pop culture, I think its great..... except that people often tend to forget that these elements are not American. Or there is awareness, but not really. Not in the same league that Filipinos and Australians who watch programming from the United States know that it is from the United States.
Not true, either....

What on earth are you talking about?
 
SLM
#36
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

What on earth are you talking about?

I have no idea.

Maybe quoting other posters without actually quoting other posters is the problem?
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
+3
#37
Does anyone have a large strip of property where I could bury something?
 
SLM
+1
#38
Nope.

Ask your new Facebook friend.

You know what they say, a good friend will help you move but a great friend will help you move a body.
 
china
#39
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i'm not convinced that having americans know more about us is a good thing.

hahahahahahahahahaha.............................. ..........
 
taxslave
#40
Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_Soldier View Post

Exactly. Here's an example.

I think that people in America would benefit from learning about Canada. I have a body decomposing in my basement. Mutual understanding will only strengthen our relationship. His name was Bob and he was my neighbor. Understanding will lead to trust. The bugger was always hassling me, wanting to borrow stuff. It should be pointed out that Canadians along with Americans have much to learn about each other. I dismembered him with a hatchet.

What do you think?

I'm thinking you need to visit a shrink. Maybe get your meds changed. Obviously the ones you are taking are too powerful or incompatible.

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Does anyone have a large strip of property where I could bury something?

1200ft all right? Are you bringing something to dig with or do I need to bring a toy home from work?
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
#41
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

I'm thinking you need to visit a shrink. Maybe get your meds changed. Obviously the ones you are taking are too powerful or incompatible.

Pills are for crazy people.

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1200ft all right? Are you bringing something to dig with or do I need to bring a toy home from work?

If you had a wood chipper and a back hoe you'd really be helping a brother out.
 
china
#42
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I did see clips of Rick Mercer talking to Americans, and yes, he did reveal quite a bit of American ignorance about Canada (haha, President Jean Poutine..... that's funny!). I do agree, in fact, that Americans tend to be ignorant about the rest of the world. I have heard many jokes about American ignorance about Canada.

But here's my main point: if Americans did pay more attention to the rest of the world, do you really think Canada would be among the highest priority among the world's countries?

Here's my story relevant to the topic, as well as my many observations:

I was born and raised in Northern California to parents from the Philippines. I always knew that Canada was more than a northern "wilderness," French speakers, and Mounties (in fact, as a kid, I thought of Canada as like the US, but having guarded more aspects of its British heritage that Americans tossed).

But Canada didn't really enter my radar until my dad's brother migrated with his family to Vancouver when I was 11. Because his sons were my age, I had a good reason to go there nearly every summer. My frequent visits made me fall in love with Vancouver, and I kept coming back, even when I didn't feel as close to my cousins as I used to. I also became curious about the rest of Canada, and got to see much more of it as an adult. I like the majority of what I have seen. I even intend to live there after a few years of going to other countries.

What if, however, my uncle didn't migrate to Canada? Or what if he migrated to a part of Canada that my teenage self would not have appreciated so much. I don't think Canada would be so high on my radar. Would I be ignorant of the world outside the USA, though? Here are some main points:


1) As my parents are from the Philippines, that country would, one way or another, be on my radar. With or without Canada in my life, the Philippines would always be on my radar. And I think many people of recent immigrant background (self, parents, or grandparents) can say the same. For many people of recent immigrant background in the US (like anywhere else), their world will often revolve largely around both the "old country" and the "new country" (in my case, Philippines and USA). Additionally, many of us will have friends whose recent origins are from countries other than these, and those countries will be on our radar as well (for example, I have many Chinese friends, so China and its neighbours are on my radar as well).

So since most immigrants to the US from previous generations are from Europe, while most immigrants since 1965 are from Latin America and Asia, I think it's not hard to find people in the US who place countries from those regions high on their radar.

2) I have white American friends who have been in the States for generations, and have few friends of recent immigrant background (besides me, of course), but they do take huge interest in the pop cultures from countries such as the UK, Germany, and Japan. As long as the US has been a major world power, its closest rivals have generally been in Europe and Asia, so aside from the influence of immigrants from those regions, continued exposure to the pop cultures of those regions could put their countries further in the minds of many Americans. Good example: Japanese Anime

On that note, I actually enjoy and appreciate CBC programming and many bands from Canada - but I noticed that even many Canadians don't seem to, because they prefer that which comes from the States. So if many Canadians don't seem to have Canada on their radar, how can anyone else?

3) When you talk about border issues, Canada's only concern is the US. The US, on the other hand, is concerned not only with Canada, but with Mexico and other countries to the south. And whatever issues concerning smuggling of drugs, weapons, and people may happen at the Canada/USA border, I guarantee you it's easily 100 times bigger at the USA/Mexico border. I mean, to my knowledge, the USA/Mexico border receives 10,000 illegal crossings into the USA DAILY!!!! I don't think the Canada/USA border can even come close! And particularly being from California, we get a plurality of it. Mexico is thousands of times visible in the daily live of a Californian than Canada would ever be!

On that note, that's why there are more Mexicans in the US than there are total people in Canada. Whereas whatever Canadians migrate to the US tend to blend in too well.... even better than out-of-state Americans from some places would. In California, someone from Texas or Tennessee would stick out more likely than someone from Toronto would. (Likewise, when I go to Canada aside from Quebec and parts of Atlantic Canada, I don't get noticed as an outsider, whereas I would in many US states).

And if the Canadian who moved to the US is of an "ethnic" background, they will be more likely to identify with locals if their ethnic background than with being Canadian. For example, a Chinese-Canadian from Vancouver who moves to California will likely identify much more easily with Chinese locals in California than they would with a white Quebecois or Newfoundlander who also moves to California. So my point with this point is that if we have millions of Mexicans everywhere who make their presence largely visible, whereas Canadians often blend in better than out-of-state Americans do, that takes away some pressure to pay more attention to Canada.

Additionally, while 90% of Canadians live within 150 km of the US border, a smaller percentage of Americans live within the same distance of the Canadian border. In fact, even more live the same distance from the Mexican border, and like I said, that includes many Mexicans themselves.

Very wise ,refreshing , informative and humble article ; aimed at the Europeans , Asian (Chinese) intelligentsia communities.

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Durry

I hate long posts, a good communicator can usually make his point in a couple of sentences.

I think that I,m a good communicator and will describe your brain in two words . hahaq
 
JLM
#43
I think some Canadians are pretty ignorant the U.S. How many can name all 50 states without looking at a map? How many states can most Canadians name the capital city off. How many Canadians can list the river on which the 10 largest cities are located? How many Canadians can name the first 13 states to join confederation? Near what city was the Alamo and in what year did it happen? Name 4 participants at the Alamo. Get my drift?
 
china
#44
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

I think some Canadians are pretty ignorant the U.S. How many can name all 50 states without looking at a map? How many states can most Canadians name the capital city off. How many Canadians can list the river on which the 10 largest cities are located? How many Canadians can name the first 13 states to join confederation? Near what city was the Alamo and in what year did it happen? Name 4 participants at the Alamo. Get my drift?

..........hahaaha.
Ask a Canadian to name three states in the union which name ends in "e".
Give him a minute .
 
EagleSmack
#45
Quote: Originally Posted by china View Post

..........hahaaha.
Ask a Canadian to name three states in the union which name ends in "e".
Give him a minute .

Hawiee

 
china
#46
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

Hawiee

there are four states with names ending in "E".-stick with three.
 
JLM
#47
Quote: Originally Posted by china View Post

there are four states with names ending in "E".-stick with three.

Maine, Delaware, New Hampshire.
 
Kreskin
#48
It is what it is. I'm sure half of America couldn't find Delaware on a map. Personally I get the Canadian Maritimes all screwed up. PEI could be New Brunswick for all I know.
 
JLM
#49
Quote: Originally Posted by Kreskin View Post

It is what it is. I'm sure half of America couldn't find Delaware on a map. Personally I get the Canadian Maritimes all screwed up. PEI could be New Brunswick for all I know.

New Brunswick doesn't look much like an island.
 
china
#50
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Maine, Delaware, New Hampshire.

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Maine, Delaware, New Hampshire.

Correct JLM ,it took you 10 seconds.
Fourth state .....? a hint - You ain't nothin but a hound dog.
 
Angstrom
#51
AS long as they know we have a central bank and we don't control our own resource thats all they care about. I have recently noticed, don’t you find it odd that the countries “they don’t like”, Iran, Venezuela, etc do not have central banks and control their own resources… Just a thought.
 
JLM
#52
Quote: Originally Posted by china View Post

Correct JLM ,it took you 10 seconds.
Fourth state .....? a hint - You ain't nothin but a hound dog.

No it took me a good minute, but of course I missed Tennessee.
 
CDNBear
+1
#53
Quote: Originally Posted by Angstrom View Post

AS long as they know we have a central bank and we don't control our own resource thats all they care about. I have recently noticed, don’t you find it odd that the countries “they don’t like”, Iran, Venezuela, etc do not have central banks and control their own resources… Just a thought.

If only YOU knew more about the rest of the world....

Central Bank of the Islamic Republic of Iran, Home

Banco De Central Venezuela, BANCO CENTRAL DE VENEZUELA
 
EagleSmack
+1
#54
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear View Post

If only YOU knew more about the rest of the world....

Central Bank of the Islamic Republic of Iran, Home

Banco De Central Venezuela, BANCO CENTRAL DE VENEZUELA

Wow!

Quote: Originally Posted by Angstrom View Post

AS long as they know we have a central bank and we don't control our own resource thats all they care about. I have recently noticed, don’t you find it odd that the countries “they don’t like”, Iran, Venezuela, etc do not have central banks and control their own resources… Just a thought.

Talk about getting PWNED.
 
CDNBear
#55
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

Wow!



Talk about getting PWNED.

I'm sure Angst will be along shortly to tell me I don't know how to debate or carry on a discussion.
 
EagleSmack
+1
#56
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear View Post

I'm sure Angst will be along shortly to tell me I don't know how to debate or carry on a discussion.

That was a slam-dunk... the proverbial "end of discussion".
 
CDNBear
#57
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

That was a slam-dunk... the proverbial "end of discussion".

That only means something if you aren't an ideological moron.

Which is why he'll be along to tell me I'm inferior in someway, because I once again, pointed out the flaws in his commentary.
 
EagleSmack
+1
#58
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear View Post

That only means something if you aren't an ideological moron.

.

Yeah... you're right.
 
petros
#59
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear View Post

If only YOU knew more about the rest of the world....

Central Bank of the Islamic Republic of Iran, Home

Banco De Central Venezuela, BANCO CENTRAL DE VENEZUELA

Who owns them? Private or public?
 
CDNBear
#60
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Who owns them?

A consortium of magical GAU 8's HSM's and strip mine shafts.