Ford government admits they can't do what they promised


Hoid
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#211
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...cuts-1.5085851

and now the re rigueur rightie attack on teachers.

Ford plans to cut about 3500 full time teaching positions. Because they are unable to figure out ways to grow an economy they are left with cutting services.

What better place to cut than education when your base is uneducated?
 
spilledthebeer
#212
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...cuts-1.5085851

and now the re rigueur rightie attack on teachers.

Ford plans to cut about 3500 full time teaching positions. Because they are unable to figure out ways to grow an economy they are left with cutting services.

What better place to cut than education when your base is uneducated?




POOR STUPID Hoid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He is so arrogant he actually thinks he can persuade people that running massively into debt simply to buy more votes for LIE-beral party and HOG allies will benefit the general public!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!



One in every 3 EMPLOYED Cdns works for one of our 4 levels of govt!


Thus there are an enormous number of kids in our school system who are available to protest Doug Ford on behalf of their HOG parents!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not because Ford is wrong to lower the insane LIE-beral $16 billion dollar debt!!!

In the eyes of the protesting kids - Ford is EVIL simply because he is making cuts to the LIE-beral gravy train their parents are riding on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kids protesting Ford are EXACTLY what Ford called them- PAWNS OF TEACHER UNIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Union Hogs all across Canada are watching with dismay as LIE-beral values and polices come into increasing public DISGRACE - as they deserve!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And the Hogs are hugely concerned that a public swing to support for Conservatives will naturally result in FROZEN WAGES for Hogs!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thus those who attack Ford ARE NOT ACTING in the public interest!! Rather they are acting in the usual destructive and selfish way of Gravy Train Riders!!!!!

City tv news did some interviews with some of The kid protestors and the comments are DAMNING!!!!!!!!!!!!

The first kid to be interviewed looked straight into the camera and stated: “I am going to teachers college next year and Doug Ford has jeopardized my chances of finding a job with his alteration of class sizes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah- never mind about the $16 billion dollar deficit that Wynne-bag LIE-berals ran up when Wynne-bag told teachers in 2014 that: “I will do whatever it takes to regain your trust”!!!!!

Wynne-bag publicly told teachers and Ontarians that SHE WOULD BRIBE TEACHERS as much and as often as required to retain her hold on power -and to HELL with debt and deficits!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And never mind how many other kids are not able to find work in our LIE-beral debt crippled economy!! That aspiring teacher thinks the world should revolve around HER NEEDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And the second kid to be interviewed stated: “my favorite teacher is going to be fired because of Doug Ford”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh well then- I guess we can IGNORE the $16 billion deficit and just keep on spending so the kid will not be unhappy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is just too bad how unhappy the kid will be later in life as he struggles to PAY FOR that LIE-beral BRIBERY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So why really are so many kids unhappy? Because their parents are over paid and under worked civil service union Hogs and if Ford cuts the gravy train these kids will be directly impacted with the loss of GRAVY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Parents with lots of gravy translate into KIDS WITH GRAVY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Too bad the Hogs and their PIGLETS don’t give a damn what their GREED is doing to anybody else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are nurses who treat autistic kids angry at Ford because he is hurting kids or because he has cancelled the nurses cash cow?

Toronto (Red) Star newspaper told us about 10 years ago that about 5000 new teachers are hired in Ontari-owe each year to replace older teachers who are retiring or getting out of the biz etc.

So HOW can the sky be falling if recent Ford govt actions result in the loss of 1000 teacher jobs? Surely standard attrition rates will easily absorb this change???

Or should we assume teachers simply want to make life as difficult as possible for Ford govt and for any parent who supports Ford???????????

Toronto Star asks: who can build transit faster- Tory or Ford? Answer- whoever chooses to derail the gravy train first!

Lawyer Howard Goldblatt is representing the Elementary Teachers Federation of Ontari-owe in their lawsuit against alterations made to the sex education curriculum made by Doug Ford.

Goldblatt said in court that “there might not have been a legal challenge if Ford had not also issued a warning to teachers who said they would continue to use the now scrapped curriculum”!!

So basically what Goldblatt appears to be telling us is this fight is all about teachers being openly resentful of being told what to do by ELECTED leaders they don’t like!!!!!!!!!!

If Jackass John Tory wants to lead a sanctuary city then FINE - LET HIM FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY FOR IT! We are indebted to Ezra Levant and his Rebel media for exposing the LIE-beral LIE about how many illegals are really coming here- and what the TRUE COST of feeding, housing and clothing them will be!

LIE-berals admit that about 200 illegals per day are crossing at the most popular Quenec crossing point- but the LIARS DO NOT ADMIT that it is ONLY ONE CROSSING POINT! Nor do the LIARS admit that 200 per day is actually a LOW average- on some days as many as 500 cross per day!

At 200 illegals per day multiplied by 365 days at ONLY ONE CROSSING POINT- that gives us 73,000 illegals per year- and LIE-berals REFUSE to give us the true number! LIE-berals DO ADMIT that on some days as many as 500 people cross at that one Quebec crossing point! So how much money can Ford save by refusing to play along with idiot LE-berals collecting illegals as if they were stray cats?

LIE-beral hypocrites working as college professors justify their claimed right to censor any speaker they do not approve of as a “value judgement” intended to improve education- by which they mean stuffing THEIR VIEWS down the throats of others and making rthem swallow like good little Nazis!

LIE-berals scorn the Doug Ford transit plan to simply re-start the two decade old Shepard subway plan! But what has changed? Population density is higher than ever along the planned route so how is the plan suddenly invalid? Unless you are simply a Ford HATER slapping at anything he says?

LIE-berals aks us “who wants to live in a Doug Ford Ontari-owe”? WE ALL DO - and the election results prove it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The only no votes are from LIE-berals and their Hog allies!

Ontari-owe LIE-berals- the most hated govt in Cdn history think they can scare us by suggesting “we don’t know the real Doug Ford”! HAHAHAHAHA!!!

A chief LIE-beral strategist called Doug Ford a “dick” - while ignoring the widespread public view that LIE-berals are ALL thieves!

LIE-berals insist that Ford is a racist and opposed to a multi cultural Ontari-owe. But LIE-berals ignore the majority of Cdns who want to see illegals deported, and want to see immigration standards raised and want to see LIE-beral politicians forbidden from giving more grants to Black Lives Matter Bigots!

LIE-berals think it is more useful to teach 9 year old kids about anal sex than multiplication tables and spelling.

LIE-berals would rather damage our education system and reduce academic standards across the board and blight the future of our kids than admit how many ethnic kids are failing in our school system thanks to our messed up LIE-beral immigration policies!

LIE-berals would rather blame “racists” for blighted black lives than admit it is crap attitudes that are mostly to blame!

LIE-berals think it is police harassment for cops to arrest large numbers of black criminals- real proof and evidence is irrelevant to LIE-berals!

Wynne-bag LIE-berals suggested that Ford would lay off 40,000 civil service union Hogs if he becomes premier. Are there really 40,000 public relations spin doctors and parasites in LIE-beral govt?

LIE-berals are angry that Ford thinks that parents should be informed if their 15 year old daughter needs an abortion! A 15 year old girl is NOT an adult!

LIE-berals say a Ford govt will have to make service cuts. Oh? Worse cuts than those LIE-berals have made by shutting rural hospitals and rationing health care?

LIE-berals say poor people cannot afford Conservative policies. Too bad NONE of us can afford LIE-beral policies- as soaring Cdn debt levels prove!

LIE-berals warn that Ford will give corporations huge tax cuts- will this interfere with the flow of gravy to LIE-berals listed in the Paradise Papers tax scandal?

LIE-berals whine about Ford not wanting to expand rent controls- LIE-berals would rather just destroy the rental market using the Soviet style “command economy” model where bribery and political connections make or break your housing options!

LIE-berals whine that Ford will not give minimum wage increases and how will LIE-berals justify their disgraceful salary increases for Hogs if there is no minimum wage ponzi scheme in effect to PRETEND people are getting more money? With LIE-berals its all in one pocket and back out the other- with ONLY civil service Hogs actually KEEPING the raises!

LIE-berals pretend that the minimum wage increase benefits poor people even as LIE-berals dismantle the raise with higher income tax, increased Cdn pension plan deductions, higher Unemployment deductions, increased hydro costs, soaring food prices as carbon crap and trade scam kicks in, soaring property taxes and all manner of increased fees just so LIE-berals will have the gravy they need to buy Hog votes and cling to power at any price!

LIE-berals say Ford will give corporations big tax cuts- will these ALLEGED cuts cost more than the proven LIE-beral MaRs deal, E-health, the endless waste and entitlements at Metrolinx, the rot at MTHC, the LIE-beral pedestrian bridge built upside down, the snow plowing scandal, the road paving scandal, the Nippising bridge failure, the failure of prefab steel girders LIE-berals bought for 401 bridges, the accounting lies that auditor general Bonnie Lysyk has documented, the fifty percent raises demanded by senior college and university staffers, the green energy mess that only cleans wallets of cash and leaves the dirt in the air?

LIE-berals suggest that Ford will not make business take responsibility for pollution but we already have solid proof that the LIE-beral carbon crap and trade plan is nothing but a costly scam- designed in imitation of the scandal riddled European model- to enrich civil service union Hogs so how can Ford possibly make that costly LIE-beral mess any worse?

LIE-berals whine that Ford will not support their failed carbon crap and trade mess simply because it is INEFFECTIVE! LIE-berals do not want to admit that cutting back on gravy to Sunshine List Hogs so the people in Ontari-owe who already have the largest carbon foot print will be forced to cut back IS a more effective climate control method!

LIE-berals whine about lost jobs under Ford- but crippling debt is the real job killer! One has only to look at the disaster of the PIGS- Portugal, Ireland, Greece and Spain to se the ugly job killing reality of debt!

LIE-berals whine that tax breaks to corporations do not create jobs- if that is true then why does LIE-beral policy offer all manner of tax breaks and grants to any business to come here and set up shop?
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
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#213
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...cuts-1.5085851

and now the re rigueur rightie attack on teachers.

Ford plans to cut about 3500 full time teaching positions. Because they are unable to figure out ways to grow an economy they are left with cutting services.

What better place to cut than education when your base is uneducated?


Maybe the Education system is inefficient and dysfunctional to start with. Probably a good idea to layoff the dead wood and rebuilt the system from the ground up. I know in B.C. it's been a joke ever since they took the strap out of the schools. Now the kids just tell the teacher to fcuk off when they are told to do something.
 
taxslave
Free Thinker
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#214
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...cuts-1.5085851
and now the re rigueur rightie attack on teachers.
Ford plans to cut about 3500 full time teaching positions. Because they are unable to figure out ways to grow an economy they are left with cutting services.
What better place to cut than education when your base is uneducated?

Maybe if teachers worked a full day and all year they would get a little sympathy.
 
taxslave
Free Thinker
+3
#215
If hoid had read the article he would have noticed there are no layoffs. It is all being done by attrition.
 
Cannuck
No Party Affiliation
#216
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Maybe the Education system is inefficient and dysfunctional to start with. Probably a good idea to layoff the dead wood and rebuilt the system from the ground up. I know in B.C. it's been a joke ever since they took the strap out of the schools. Now the kids just tell the teacher to fcuk off when they are told to do something.


Kids today are far smarter than your generation. The education system is doing fine
 
pgs
Free Thinker
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#217
Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck View Post

Kids today are far smarter than your generation. The education system is doing fine

Are they ?
 
Cannuck
No Party Affiliation
#218
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

Are they ?


Absolutely
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
+1
#219
Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck View Post

Kids today are far smarter than your generation. The education system is doing fine

Yes and no. I have an office of young engineers under me who are tech savvy adherents to automating every process (probably putting themselves and others out of life-long employment but I haven't pointed that out to them). They are very smart in certain ways but all .... and I mean all, have little common sense and don't see or get it when they get the wrong answer, which tells me that they don't fully understand the processes that they are working on. The old story that I can confirm about a store teller looking gob-smacked, like you'd just performed a magic trick when you tell them how much change is do by Fong the arithmatic in your head, applies to every one of my young engineers on a slightly higher level. They are on done ways smarter but on too many ways far less smarter.

We are ripe for invasion.

They will be assimilated.
 
Cannuck
No Party Affiliation
#220
Engineers have always been that way. Comparing apples to apples, a 30 year old engineer is infinitely smarter than one from 40 years ago
 
Hoid
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#221
Nothing will energize the deplorable base like firing some teachers.

That's the sort of action they need.
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
+1 / -1
#222
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

Are they ?


Yeah riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight! The Putz is talking through his hat as usual because he doesn't have the brains to know the right answers. When we went to school we didn't have calculators and computers, we did shit the hard way like long division and calculating square roots. We had to read books to find answers, but the Putz he doesn't read too good as is obvious from his obviously hare-brained observations. By pass the Putz for any knowledge about anything!
 
pgs
Free Thinker
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#223
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Yeah riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight! The Putz is talking through his hat as usual because he doesn't have the brains to know the right answers. When we went to school we didn't have calculators and computers, we did shit the hard way like long division and calculating square roots. We had to read books to find answers, but the Putz he doesn't read too good as is obvious from his obviously hare-brained observations. By pass the Putz for any knowledge about anything!

Well watching young people walking around downtown traffic with their smart gadget stuck in the face shows me how smart they are . Being driven to school everyday didn’t supply them with the self preservation bug most of us codgers developed . They apparently were never taught to look both ways before crossing the road .
 
Hoid
#224
I am guessing the two of you like to keep the young people off your lawns.
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
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#225
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

Well watching young people walking around downtown traffic with their smart gadget stuck in the face shows me how smart they are . Being driven to school everyday didn’t supply them with the self preservation bug most of us codgers developed . They apparently were never taught to look both ways before crossing the road .


Oh! You notice that stuff too! Maybe the Putz is in need of some eye wear.
 
Cannuck
No Party Affiliation
#226
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Yeah riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight! The Putz is talking through his hat as usual because he doesn't have the brains to know the right answers. When we went to school we didn't have calculators and computers, we did shit the hard way like long division and calculating square roots. We had to read books to find answers, but the Putz he doesn't read too good as is obvious from his obviously hare-brained observations. By pass the Putz for any knowledge about anything!

My great grandfather knew how to shoe a horse. So what?
 
pgs
Free Thinker
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#227
Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck View Post

My great grandfather knew how to shoe a horse. So what?

It seems he was considerably smarter than you .
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
#228
Ontario High Schoolers Plan Mass Walkout To Protest Ford Government’s Education Cuts

The Ontario government is increasing class sizes and making students take some courses online.

TORONTO — Thousands of high school students are expected to walk out of class Thursday to protest the Ontario government's changes to the public education system.
"The students say no," organizer Frank Hong said at a press conference at Queen's Park on Wednesday.
Hong said he expects between 100,000 and 200,000 students to participate at the more than 600 schools registered for the event. Students will head to short rallies held on school grounds and then return to class later in the day.
"Adults tend to stereotype students as lazy or ignorant of current events, but I can assure you that over the past two weeks, I've never seen a demographic of a population so engaged and motivated to fight for their right to well-funded, fair and equitable education."


More: https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2019/0...uts_a_23705850
 
Hoid
#229
The playbook is pretty slim.

Righties cut government services to produce a false balance and the lefties inherit the mess and try to fix it and the righties get back in because of all the leftie spending,

This is BC politics as well.

Ontario's education system used to be a jewel.

In fact the now gone Progressive Conservative party was one of it's biggest champions and they elected people like Bill Davis because he had such a commitment to education.

Then came the computer and Mike Harris and suddenly the righties are what we know them as today.
 
spilledthebeer
#230
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Maybe the Education system is inefficient and dysfunctional to start with. Probably a good idea to layoff the dead wood and rebuilt the system from the ground up. I know in B.C. it's been a joke ever since they took the strap out of the schools. Now the kids just tell the teacher to fcuk off when they are told to do something.




Oh now..........................


Ford IS on the right track!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Trying to deal in a sensible way with the insane LIE-beral $16 billion dollar deficit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But if you think Ford has enough power and influence to cut dead wood and dysfunctional crap over the protests of Soviet Socialist school trustees and civil service union Hogs then you are DREAMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The latest buzz is that Ford changes to education will result in 3000 teachers being laid off........................................


and of course that is a FILTHY HOG LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Toronto Star has told us that in an average year- 5000 teachers are replaced - due to them retiring or quitting or falling ill etc..............


so FORD SPEAKS TRULY when he states the system can handle his changes EASILY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Ford has stated that NO TEACHERS will be fired or laid off and that the 3000 that leave will be the result of VOLUNTARY RETIREMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


OF course school trustees want to create public hysteria in order to curry favour with the Hogs!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Trustees gave up managing school budgets long ago and now trustees ONLY RUBBER STAMP whatever crap unions ORDER them to accept!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



AS for the kids protesting education cuts......................................


and Ford`s assertions that the kids are merely PAWNS of Hog union leaders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


One way to PROVE that Forc is right would be to find out how many of the protestors ARE related TO Hogs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



The HOG unions ar gearing up for a GRAND BATTLE against Ford in teacher contract negotiations next fall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And they are gearing up for the election BATTLE in October that will decide the fate of Our idiot Boy and his loser LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!
 
petros
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#231
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

It seems he was considerably smarter than you .

I never knew physics was completely different 40 years ago. Did you?
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
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#232
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

I never knew physics was completely different 40 years ago. Did you?


Science and math don't change, it's just the artzy fartzy things that change!
 
Hoid
#233
OMG
No advances in physics in the last 40 years

 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#234
The 10 biggest breakthroughs in physics over the past 25 years, according to us.

Not much of it will be covered in any depth in public Schools right now
 
Cannuck
No Party Affiliation
#235
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

OMG
No advances in physics in the last 40 years

Apparently 4-20 mAmp loops and digital systems were quite common in 1980. Who knew?
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
#236
4-30, you say?
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
#237
Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck View Post

Engineers have always been that way. Comparing apples to apples, a 30 year old engineer is infinitely smarter than one from 40 years ago

Probably. They used to overbuild things 40 years ago ,(myself included) but time, experience and competition has taught (some of us) how to be more efficient. CAD has improved Engineering immensely.
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
+1 / -1
#238
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

I never knew physics was completely different 40 years ago. Did you?


I rather doubt if physics ever changes. The depth of our knowledge of it almost certainly does.
 
taxslave
Free Thinker
#239
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Nothing will energize the deplorable base like firing some teachers.
That's the sort of action they need.

Where are teachers getting fired?
 
Gilgamesh
#240
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

Ontario minister admits Ford government broke election promise by scrapping basic income project

An Ontario minister admits the new government has backtracked on a campaign promise to keep the province's basic income pilot project in place.

Social Services Minister Lisa MacLeod blamed the "realities" the Progressive Conservatives faced, upon coming into power last month, for the decision she announced on Tuesday.

"[There's] the decision in the campaign and then you find the realities of when you're in government," MacLeod told reporters on Wednesday, restating her intent to "come up with a better plan in 100 days."

It marks the first broken promise of Premier Doug Ford's government.

"My commitment to the people of Ontario, particularly the people who are most vulnerable, is that we will get it right," MacLeod said.

"I, in good conscience, could not proceed on the patchwork of systems that the Liberals had in place."

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4770772

Ford did the right thing. The program wasn't working.

Naturally he is being damned for it.