Saudi arms deal

Hoid
#1
Now confirmed that the Saudi LAV-6 deal that was originally for 742 has been cut to 189.

So the reason for letting an American company set up in London Ontario to compromise our national integrity is smaller and less defensible than ever.

To be clear: we should not be selling arms to Saudi Arabia ever for any reason.

The entire episode just illustrates how shallow our ethics really are and why all these cynical Canadians are probably right.
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+2
#2  Top Rated Post
Cut by the Saudis not Canada
 
Hoid
#3
Yes excellent point that everybody knew.
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#4
And your numbers are way out to lunch

Canada's arms deal with Saudi Arabia is shrinking

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/sau...nada-1.4815571

Quote:

The documents show General Dynamic Land Systems Canada, the London, Ont.-based manufacturer, was — as of spring last year — going to deliver only 742 of the modern LAV-6s, a reduction from the original 2014 deal.
The initial order from the desert kingdom was for 928 vehicles, including 119 of the heavy assault variety equipped with 105 millimetre cannons.
Details of the agreement have long been kept under a cloak of secrecy. General Dynamic Land Systems, the Canadian Commercial Corporation (the Crown corporation which brokered the deal) and the Saudi government have all refused to acknowledge the specifics, other than the roughly $15 billion price tag.

 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+1
#5
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Yes excellent point that everybody knew.

You kinda made it look like Canada was responsible for the scaled back deal
 
Hoid
#6
Unintentional, and my main point is that we should never have been selling them arms in the first place.

Then again, its just another American company using Canada as a tax haven.
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#7
Probably apart of a military contract the same as Bell Helicopters or Boeing fighters
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#8
Saudi Arabia expects Canada to proceed with $15B arms deal , but there’s ‘no final decision’
 
Hoid
#9
It's indefensible.

Like dealing with China.

What young Canaians learn is that you can be as violent and repressive as you want to be and Canada will still cozy up to you for money.

It's sad and unnecessary. We do not need that money that bad.
 
Jinentonix
No Party Affiliation
+1
#10
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

It's indefensible.
Like dealing with China.
What young Canaians learn is that you can be as violent and repressive as you want to be and Canada will still cozy up to you for money.

Yeah, that's working out well for Groper. The Saudi's are $1.5 billion in arrears on contract payments.
 
Hoid
#11
All the more reason to walk away
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#12
Not so fast Hoid it is OK to deal with SA again

Canadian Export Agency Lifts Suspension on Saudi Arabia Business

Quote:

(Bloomberg) -- Canada’s export financing agency has lifted its suspension on Saudi Arabia-related activity, citing an improving environment for the nation’s businesses since a diplomatic blowout with the kingdom last summer.
Export Development Canada its position on Saudi Arabia on Tuesday from “off cover” to “open on restricted basis,” ending a 10-month halt on business. The EDC move to suspend business in the country came after the Saudi government put its own freeze on any new deals for Canadian firms.
“EDC has now made the decision, based on our monitoring, that business conditions in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia have improved to a point where we can again start considering support for Canadian companies exporting to the market,” spokeswoman Amy Minsky said by email. “We believe there are opportunities for Canadian companies” in the country, she said, “and we don’t want to preemptively close the door to them.”
The move highlights an easing of tensions between the two countries since a diplomatic feud erupted last summer after a tweet by Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland criticized the arrest of a Saudi women’s rights activist. In response, Saudi Arabia lambasted Canada for interfering in its domestic affairs, expelled the Canadian ambassador to Riyadh and ordered a freeze on new investment.
Before the incident, EDC had rated Saudi Arabia as open for business with a low risk of political interference. It’s current “restricted” status means that “we recognize there are risks, but are open to assessing transactions on a case-by-case basis to verify whether each meets our requirements for sustainable and responsible business,” Minsky said.
At the time of Freeland’s tweet, EDC had exposure of about C$2 billion ($1.5 billion) to Saudi Arabia, and about 250 customers operating in the kingdom.

I wonder if Freeland had to apologize for the shot she fired over twitter
 
Hoid
#13
Since her tweet the Saudis have kidnapped and executed and dismembered an American journalist critical of the regime.

So I wonder why anyone anywhere ever has anything to do with them.

Oh wait.

Money.
 
pgs
Free Thinker
+2
#14
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Since her tweet the Saudis have kidnapped and executed and dismembered an American journalist critical of the regime.

So I wonder why anyone anywhere ever has anything to do with them.

Oh wait.

Money.

Yes Liberals are greedy .
 
Hoid
#15
Because only liberals do business with the Saudis
 
pgs
Free Thinker
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Because only liberals do business with the Saudis

In case you forgot the present ruling party in Canada are Liberal .
 
Hoid
#17
In case you forgot the deal was made by Harper.
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#18
In case you forgot the deal got final approval by the Liberals
 
pgs
Free Thinker
+1
#19
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

In case you forgot the deal got final approval by the Liberals

After halting same deal .
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
#20
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

After halting same deal .

They know where their bread is buttered.

No more weekends with the Aga Khan if you piss off the Saudis!
 
B00Mer
No Party Affiliation
#21
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

It's indefensible.
Like dealing with China.
What young Canaians learn is that you can be as violent and repressive as you want to be and Canada will still cozy up to you for money.
It's sad and unnecessary. We do not need that money that bad.

You were just bashing Trump for being hard on China..

MY God you're all over the map dude.

It's just what ever makes your Liberal talking points work for that moment
 
Jinentonix
No Party Affiliation
+1
#22
Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

You were just bashing Trump for being hard on China..
MY God you're all over the map dude.
It's just what ever makes your Liberal talking points work for that moment

Um dude? 3 years ago you were bashing Trump and cheer-leading Groper. I mean, I can appreciate the fact that you had a change of mind but what caused your complete and total reversal?
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#23
For Canada, the G20 summit in Saudi Arabia could be far more tense than most
 
Hoid
#24
Saudi Arabia and China are two peas in the same pod.

The world needs to stop kowtowing to these repressive regimes.