5 dead in California shooting

5 dead in California shooting

Hoid

#1 Top Rated Post Nov 14th, 2017

Another crazy white man with a gun.

This guy had a beef with his neighbor so ended up a a local grammar school firing his AR15 through the windows. God was kind and somehow he was unable to get into the school.

He was already on parole for a stabbing and had spent much of the week firing hundreds of rounds on his property and threatening people. Had a violent past.

You would be hard pressed to invent a worse candidate for gun ownership

Also props to the police for handling him.

https://heavy.com/news/2017/11/kevin...chool-shooter/

Last edited by Hoid; Nov 14th, 2017 at 10:03 PM..

Hoof Hearted

Re: 5 dead in California shooting

Nov 14th, 2017

I think on some level, because of technology, the pace of life we lead these days is causing more stress and mental illness in society at large.

Add guns to the mix and I really don't see these types of events going away anytime soon.

Hoid

Re: 5 dead in California shooting

Nov 14th, 2017

I believe it spreads like a disease. It is infecting more and more people.

Similar to the suicide epidemics up north.

Cannuck

Re: 5 dead in California shooting

Nov 14th, 2017

Read "Future Shock" and "The Third Wave" by Alvin Toffler.

Curious Cdn

-1

Re: 5 dead in California shooting

Nov 14th, 2017

Tuesday is officially the "shoot the helpless children day" on the weekly "new normal" calendar.

Hoid

Re: 5 dead in California shooting

Nov 14th, 2017

Future Shock is a blast from the past. THat was a big book when it came out.

Cannuck

Re: 5 dead in California shooting

Nov 14th, 2017

Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid

Future Shock is a blast from the past. THat was a big book when it came out.

It's amazing how much of it came true. "The Third Wave" suggests that we are moving out of the industrial era (second wave) and many of our social structures, that were created to serve industrial era society are being dismantled or abandoned because they no longer suit or serve us.

What most people see as right/left or libertarian/authoritarian arguments are actually industrial wave views (second wave) against third wave views.

Toffler suggested the US Civil War was actually a fight between a dying first wave (agricultural society) and an emerging industrial wave/society.

Retired_Can_Soldier

Re: 5 dead in California shooting

Nov 14th, 2017

Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid

Also props to the police for handling him.

Yeah, but if there were an NRA member around he could have saved the day.

Curious Cdn

Re: 5 dead in California shooting

Nov 14th, 2017

Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_Soldier

Yeah, but if there were an NRA member around he could have saved the day.

It's those snowflake socialist teachers. Why aren't they packing? When I was a kid, all that teachers had as a weapon was the chalk in their hands. We didn't know about FREEDOM ... real constitutional freedom.

Hoid

#10

Re: 5 dead in California shooting

Nov 14th, 2017

Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_Soldier

Yeah, but if there were an NRA member around he could have saved the day.

you can bet your as there was one NRA member there.

B00Mer

#11

Re: 5 dead in California shooting

Nov 15th, 2017

Jesus another shooting.. "The shooter was shot and killed by police." Good! Hope it was a slow and painful death.

As for his victims, may they rest in peace and my condolences to their family and friends.

Hoid

#12

Re: 5 dead in California shooting

Nov 15th, 2017

This is the 257th school shooting since 2013.

It is a contagious decease that we are watching become an epidemic.

Curious Cdn

#13

Re: 5 dead in California shooting

Nov 15th, 2017

There was another one today except that the gunman didn't quite make it into the school and not for want of trying.

MAGA

Tecumsehsbones

#14

Re: 5 dead in California shooting

Nov 15th, 2017

Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_Soldier

Yeah, but if there were an NRA member around he could have saved the day.

Not in CA. There's lots of ins and outs, but bottom line is carrying a loaded gun is effectively illegal.

DaSleeper

#15

Re: 5 dead in California shooting

Nov 15th, 2017

Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones

Not in CA. There's lots of ins and outs, but bottom line is carrying a loaded gun is effectively illegal.

Don't try to fill the void ,<sp>with common sense

Tecumsehsbones

#16

Re: 5 dead in California shooting

Nov 15th, 2017

Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid

This is the 257th school shooting since 2013.

It is a contagious decease that we are watching become an epidemic.

275 cases in four years in a population of 325,000,000 ain't an epidemic.

Jinentonix

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#17

Re: 5 dead in California shooting

Nov 15th, 2017

Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn

It's those snowflake socialist teachers. Why aren't they packing? When I was a kid, all that teachers had as a weapon was the chalk in their hands. We didn't know about FREEDOM ... real constitutional freedom.

Really? When I was in high school our history teacher brought a Lee Enfield to school. Something that NO teacher would get away with today.

Quote: Originally Posted by Jinentonix

Really? When I was in high school our history teacher brought a Lee Enfield to school. Something that NO teacher would get away with today.

Holy f*ck Walter, who pissed in your Rice Krispies this morning? Care to elucidate as to why you have a such a problem with what I posted?

DaSleeper

#18

Re: 5 dead in California shooting

Nov 15th, 2017

When I was in High school we had an indoor range for .22 cal. rifles right besides the gymnasium for the army cadets!

Hoid

#19

Re: 5 dead in California shooting

Nov 15th, 2017

Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones

275 cases in four years in a population of 325,000,000 ain't an epidemic.

Its perfectly normal.

Canada has probably had 28 school shootings in the same time frame - or at least we can choose to believe that if it makes us feel better.

Tecumsehsbones

#20

Re: 5 dead in California shooting

Nov 15th, 2017

Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid

Its perfectly normal.

It's an uptick, but by what definition of "epidemic" does 275 cases in four years in a population of 325,000,000 qualify?

Quote:

Canada has probably had 28 school shootings in the same time frame - or at least we can choose to believe that if it makes us feel better.

So, proportional to population, Canada also has an epidemic. Better call Health Canada and get 'em on that.

Hoid

#21

Re: 5 dead in California shooting

Nov 15th, 2017

When you were born did the doctor slap your mother?

Tecumsehsbones

#22

Re: 5 dead in California shooting

Nov 15th, 2017

Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid

When you were born did the doctor slap your mother?

Probably. And she probably deserved it. Mom wasn't the nicest person in Oklahoma.

Hoid

#23

Re: 5 dead in California shooting

Nov 15th, 2017

Has there been a school shooting in Canada in that time frame?

Tecumsehsbones

#24

Re: 5 dead in California shooting

Nov 15th, 2017

Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid

Has there been a school shooting in Canada in that time frame?

Yep. More'n one.

mentalfloss

#25

Re: 5 dead in California shooting

Nov 15th, 2017

Funny how conbots will remain silent and won't question a utilitarian argument (on the face of it) about violence when the perpetrator is a white guy with a gun but when it's an Islamic extremist, then borders must be shut and all of their ilk must be ejected from the country, regardless of proportionality.

DaSleeper

#26

Re: 5 dead in California shooting

Nov 15th, 2017

Apologist.....

Hoid

#27

Re: 5 dead in California shooting

Nov 15th, 2017

Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones

Yep. More'n one.

So thats 28 then?

Tecumsehsbones

#28

Re: 5 dead in California shooting

Nov 15th, 2017

Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid

So thats 28 then?

You're the one said 28. Sorry for agreeing with you. Won't happen again I promise.

You want the actual number? Google it. That's what I did.

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