War in Ukraine


darkbeaver
#1
When Nazi Hands Rock American Cradles

Posted on February 15, 2015 by George Eliason
Are Ukrainian-American children brought up to be Bandera followers? If the children of all the Eastern European and Baltic emigre populations bring their children up in American this way, will it have an effect on non-emigre children in the US? With a combined population of 20 million career age emigre ultra nationalists according to their own estimates in the United States alone, you had better find out.
Was the Euromaidan which was funded heavily by the combined emigre populations about democracy? Answering this in a surprise statement at a cabinet meeting on February 10th 2015, Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko opened up about the basis of the post-coup Ukrainian state and the ideology it is built on.
I think to the contrary that the Galicians are the foundation of the Ukrainian state ,”
This definitely throws a damper on anyone in the EU or USA calling the Euro-maidan a pro-democratic protest or revolution. The Galicians that Poroshenko is referring to formulated the ideology of Stepan Bandera that is now the foundation of post Maidan Ukraine.
According to Ukrainian-American George Masni, a former UCCA Arizona state president “The “simple nationalism” Poroshenko is talking about is love of ones nation that drives to defend it from invaders. This type of nationalism is better known as patriotism.”
If ultra-nationalist ideology wasn’t part of the Ukrainian political landscape pre-Maidan, where did it come from? Before 1991 this ideology was foreign in Ukraine except for a tiny minority in the Lviv region.
The Nazi/ nationalist ideology of Stepan Bandera made its home in the hearts of Eastern European emigres worldwide, particularly in the United States and Canada. Each succeeding generation has been taught to be more dedicated to it than their parents were.





DB( The war ,on the surface, is not going well for the Kiev Junta but deeper thinking sems to indicate that the drive to have the Ukraine National Armed Forces destroyed utterly is the most logical conclusion. This will provide for the full NATO take over being staged all arround Ukraines border. The excuse of course will be saving the people. The Ukraine National Army is the only obsticle for this full western takeover hence they will be fed to the rebel machine guns till they're harmless corpes.)


...CYM Geelong(Australia) under the patronage of Stepan Bandera celebrated Stepan Bandera Day in remembrance of the OUN leader…CYM Geelong opened up the event not only to its members but also the wider Ukrainian community not only to remember Stepan Bandera but for all our Ukrainian heroes who lost their lives in the fight for Ukraine’s independence. Druh. Marko Tkaczuk showed video clips of the work of OUN and the life of Stepan Bandera..

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They were the SS units that did atrocities so great that
Michael Wittmann, Gaupshturmfyurer SS, one of Nazi Germany’s most famous tank commanders shows the perspective the 3 rd Reich had toward the OUNb Ukrainian nationalists this young woman writes about adoringly.

What are Ukrainians- a feral Russian that for the idea of gaining the Ukrainian state is ready to kill even his Frau (wife, woman). They are the perfect fighters against the Red Army. But after that they are subject to a total cleansing(destruction) because they are the worst type of barbarians.”
 
MHz
#2
The same amount the US wants to see to them in newer weapons. Cut-back actual delivery to the people and charge them billion for some nonesistand reservers as the buy-back program is get a lot of taps turned off. There has to be more about this 'coincidence'.

Ukraine plans to borrow $1 billion to buy gas, fuel oil for reserves
KIEV (Reuters) - Ukraine plans to borrow $1 billion to establish a strategic reserve of natural gas and fuel oil to cover local needs in emergency situations, Prime Minister Arseny Yatseniuk said on Saturday.
"The government has adopted a decision to establish reserves of gas and fuel oil worth $1 billion via borrowing under state guarantees," Yatseniuk told a government meeting.
"This $1 billion will be spent to buy this strategic reserve," he added, giving no details about gas origin.
Ukraine, a traditional buyer of Russian gas, has said it hopes to cut its dependence on energy supplies from Russia and to switch to imports from European states.
Ukrainian state-run energy firm Naftogaz said last month Kiev planned to cover up to 60 percent of its gas import needs this year from Europe, leaving its once-dominant supplier Russia delivering the rest.
The government has expected that European summer spot gas prices for Ukraine could fall to between $250 and $300 per 1,000 cubic meters and this allows Kiev to bolster its underground storage reserves.
Ukraine says it is buying Russian gas above market prices and is seeking alternative supplies from Europe. It bought Russian gas at $329 per 1,000 cubic meters in the first quarter of this year.
 
darkbeaver
#3
Elements of the Ukraine National Military Forces are already in revolt, front line troops are being shot in the back by Right Sector Nazis. This armed force is the only possible thing that could prevent Ukraine occupation or resistance to NATOs mercenaries. In tyhe Delbaltseve cauldren the eastern rebels have arround ten thousand of the Ukraine Nationals surrounded among them are estimated to be two to three thousand western mercenary "advisors".
 
petros
#4
Right sector Nazis?
 
darkbeaver
+1
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petros
#6
Wow. 19 volunteers. The whole army must be Nazi because of a photo of 19 biker types.
 
darkbeaver
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Wow. 19 volunteers. The whole army must be Nazi because of a photo of 19 biker types.

It's not hard to post thousands of such pictures Petros and you know it. It's also very easy to post articles of what these pigs do in the little villages the cleanse. Wittmann was right, these are barabrians. They'll form the internal military security organs when NATO marches in.
 
petros
#8
Thousands of pictures of 19 guys?
 
darkbeaver
#9
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Thousands of pictures of 19 guys?

I don't care very much if you don't want to discuss the gutting and carving of Ukraine. It's just another NWO operation to me.
 
petros
+1
#10
Right right. Nazis are Pro Anglo-Zionists. It makes perfect sense.
 
MHz
#11
Ukraine Agrees To Monsanto Land Grab For $17 Billion IMF Loan | Global Research

The World Bank and International Monetary Fund (IMF) is helping biotech run the latest war in Ukraine. Make no mistake that what is happening in the Ukraine now is deeply tied to the interests of Monsanto, Dow, Bayer, and other big players in the poison food game.
Monsanto has an office in Ukraine. While this does not shout ‘culpability’ from every corner, it is no different than the US military’s habit to place bases in places that they want to gain political control. The opening of this office coincided with land grabs with loans from the IMF and World Bank to one of the world’s most hated corporations – all in support of their biotech takeover.
Previously, there was a ban on private sector land ownership in the country – but it was lifted ‘just in time’ for Monsanto to have its way with the Ukraine.
In fact, a bit of political maneuvering by the IMF gave the Ukraine a $17 billion loan – but only if they would open up to biotech farming and the selling of Monsanto’s poison crops and chemicals – destroying a farmland that is one of the most pristine in all of Europe. Farm equipment dealer, Deere, along with seed producers Dupont and Monsanto, will have a heyday.
In the guise of ‘aid,’ a claim has been made on Ukraine’s vast agricultural riches. It is the world’s third largest exporter of corn and fifth largest exporter of wheat. Ukraine has deep, rich, black soil that can grow almost anything, and its ability to produce high volumes of GM grain is what made biotech come rushing to take it over.
As reported by The Ecologist, according to the Oakland Institute:
“Whereas Ukraine does not allow the use of genetically modified organisms (GMOs) in agriculture, Article 404 of the EU agreement, which relates to agriculture, includes a clause that has generally gone unnoticed: it indicates, among other things, that both parties will cooperate to extend the use of biotechnologies.
There is no doubt that this provision meets the expectations of the agribusiness industry. As observed by Michael Cox, research director at the investment bank Piper Jaffray, ‘Ukraine and, to a wider extent, Eastern Europe, are among the most promising growth markets for farm-equipment giant Deere, as well as seed producers Monsanto and DuPont’.”


I'm going to guess this radar will cover Syria as well.
http://rt.com/news/232515-iran-sepehr-radar-installed/

 
petros
#12
Monsanto? Oh good Lord. Take your f-cking meds already.
 
B00Mer
#13
Should Ukraine join the EU?

That might put a quick end to the Russian invasion, unless Putin wants to fight the EU nations..
 
darkbeaver
#14
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Right right. Nazis are Pro Anglo-Zionists. It makes perfect sense.

The evidence is conclusive, the logic matchless, the practice older than the bible. Wild natural enemies are hard to steer, if you build your own and set them to work all you have to do is sit back and count the cash. Get with the times man yer so old fashioned.

Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Monsanto? Oh good Lord. Take your f-cking meds already.

Yes, this is why the Ukrainians have to be cleared from the land. Poison food kills gentiles far more efficiently than bullets.

I was looking at a map the other day which displayed the carving up of Ukraine, which disappears in the carving of course.
 
petros
#15
Poisoned food? Like? Is Viterra evil too?
 
MHz
#16
$17B from the IMF, how do they repay that? (plus whatever)

Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

Should Ukraine join the EU?

That might put a quick end to the Russian invasion, unless Putin wants to fight the EU nations..

Putin would just eliminate the discount the Ukraine gets in NG prices. The flow isn't going to change.
 
B00Mer
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

Putin would just eliminate the discount the Ukraine gets in NG prices. The flow isn't going to change.

 
MHz
#18
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Poisoned food? Like? Is Viterra evil too?

Your fake caring was evident some time ago. Wonder if the 'special chocolate' has Afghan heroin in it?


KIEV (Sputnik) – The Ukrainian government predicts 26 percent inflation in 2015, the country's prime minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk said Saturday. "The inflation is objectively related to exchange rate and the administrative price growth. We assess the inflation for the current year to be at 26 percent," Yatsenyuk said during a government meeting.
The government also predicts the exchange rate to be at 21 hryvnias per dollar. Currently the rates stand at 25 hryvnias per dollar, according to Yatsenyuk.
In January, Ukraine's annual inflation rate reached 24.9 percent.

Read more: Ukraine Government Predicts 26% Inflation for 2015 – Prime Minister / Sputnik International

MinisterThe Kiev Confectionary Factory "Roshen," a subsidiary of the Roshen Confectionary Corporation, owned by Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko, has seen its net profit increase almost nine-fold, according to the media. According to a report by the country’s National Commission on Securities and Stock Market, cited by a Ukrainian daily Vesti, the company’s net profit for 2014 was about $1.35 million, which is roughly 8.9 times greater than in 2013.

Read more: While Ukraine's Economy Crashes, It's Sweet Business for Poroshenko / Sputnik International

 
petros
#19
Sputnick? Really?
 
darkbeaver
#20





February 2, 2015
Dmitry Dzygovbrodsky, Russian-Ukrainian blogger
Translated by Kristina Rus

United Ukraine: Here comes your end, the yellow-blue Nazi country

"Russia has expressed a desire to receive back the loan of $3 billion given to Ukraine in 2013 under President Yanukovych. It is reported by Deutsche Wirtschafts Nachrichten with reference to the head of the presidential administration of Russia, Sergey Ivanov.

http://russian.rt.com/.../.../DWN-Ro...ala-ot-Ukraini

The official stressed that Ukraine owes Russian banks a much larger sum - $25 billion.

The loan contract states that the state debt should not exceed 60 percent of GDP. Otherwise, Moscow has the right to demand immediate repayment.

According to Deutsche Wirtschafts Nachrichten, by the end of 2014, the state debt of Ukraine amounted to 102.2 percent of GDP. Experts predict that in 2015 he will grow up to 106.4%."

Why use so many words?

When there is one word.

Default.

(The article seems to imply that Ukaine is no longer owned by Ukrainians. I' m not sure who the new owners are we'll probably have to wait till they move in and start drilling and gardening.)DB
 
darkbeaver
#21
Voice of Sevastopol: voice of Sevastopol Tuesday, February 17, 2015

Yet another monumental failure for the junta


All my sources confirm that Debaltsevo is mostly in Novorussian hands and that the junta forces are in full retreat to the south of the pocket. All the top Novorussian brass was on hand today, including Kononov, Motorola, Givi, Mozgovoi and Zakharchenko as were many tens of Ukrainian prisoners. It appears that the junta forces were unable to provide the kind of resistance they showed in Peski, and that make sense because in Peski they were not surrounded and they had the fire support of Ukrainian forces just north and west of them. This time the cauldron is too deep and the "lid" too strong. See for yourself.

Debaltsevo AO as of Tue Feb 17 2010 GMT You can see that the cauldron "lid" has now closed on Debaltsevo from the north and that the junta forces are either surrendering of fleeing south where there is quite literally nothing for them to do then to wait until they run out of food and ammo. Bottom line: it's over for the Ukie forces in the Debaltsevo cauldron.

Amazingly, the freaks in Kiev as still insisting that there is no cauldron but only a "bridgehead". The good news is that apparently nobody buys that nonsense any more and the mothers and wifes of the men caught in the cauldron are trying everything they can to force the Ukie high command to accept the Novorussian offer of an evacuation corridor. The try to protest in front of the General Staff building in Kiev, then the blocked traffic. In a particularly poignant moment one of these women put a megaphone next to a cellphone to amplify the voice of her son/husband calling from the cauldron and announcing that they had for about 3 hours of supplies left.

All this is truly catastrophic news for the junta in Kiev. First, their policy of denying the issue made it impossible for their forces to get out while it was still possible. According to Russian military experts, about half of all the (comparatively) combat capable units of the Ukrainian military have been surrounded in this cauldron and that means that 50% of the Ukrainian army is now gone. Second, while Poroshenko and the junta freaks tried as hard as they could to completely deny the very existence of the cauldron, thanks to the Internet and the Russian TV channels most folks in junta-controlled Ukraine know that they are being lied to. That, in turns, means that the regime is loosing the very little credibility it might have had with the general public. Last and not least, now there will be a lot of very ugly recriminations from all sides of the political spectrum about who is guilty for that latest disaster. I would not be surprised one bit if the Ukrainian death-squads (aka Azov battalion & Co.) decided to storm Kiev for two reasons: a) to take out their rage on the regime and b) because it is safer to storm Kiev than Donetsk. Poroshenko better watch his back now. By the way, rumor (unconfirmed!) has it that he already evacuated his family to Germany.

Novorussian intel is reporting that the junta is trying to assemble three battalion tactical groups and numerous MLRS north of the cauldron to try to rescue the surrounded forces, but this will be too little too late. The Novorussians are used to Ukie artillery and they don't fear their armor or, even less so, infantry. Besides, I bet you that now that they are inside Debaltsevo, the Novorussians will deeply dig in. When is the last time that the junta forces succeeded in an urban assault operation? Exactly.

Bottom line: yet another brilliant victory for the Novorussian forces and yet another humiliating defeat for the junta in Kiev.

The Saker
 
Blackleaf
#22


Shakhtar Donetsk, who won the Uefa Cup in 2009 - the last time the tournament was held before it was rebranded as the Europa League the following season - when they beat Werder Bremen 2-1 in the Final in Istanbul, drew 0-0 with Bayern Munich in the Champions League Last 16 First Leg last night.

But the match had to be played at Arena Lviv, a whopping 750 miles to the west of Donetsk, because Shakhtar’s Donbass Arena has twice been damaged by shelling during the conflict in the east of the country, where Donetsk is a separatist stronghold.


Smashed windows at Shakhtar Donetsk's Donbass Arena following an artillery attack by pro-Russian separatists last October. Shakhtar played Bayern Munich in the Champions League last night 750 miles away in Lviv


The Arena Lviv - capacity 34,915 - where Shakhtar's match with Bayern Munich took place


The magnificent Donbass Arena - the club's home - before it was abandoned because of the conflict


2009 Uefa Cup winners Shakhtar Donetsk (in the stripes) drew 0-0 with mighty five-time winners Bayern Munich in the Last 16 First Leg of the Champions League last night at the Arena Lviv, 750 miles west of their home stadium
 
gore0bsessed
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Thousands of pictures of 19 guys?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion

hmm a little more than that i'm afraid...

America will literally side with Nazis if it is in their own interests..
 
damngrumpy
#24
This situation is becoming a boil on the a** of the world and its time
to lance it period. As for the Ukrainian people they need their interests
protected and where this goes is the crossroad of modern history.
 
Colpy
#25
Quote: Originally Posted by gore0bsessed View Post

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion

hmm a little more than that i'm afraid...

America will literally side with Nazis if it is in their own interests..

Ukraine surrendered her nuclear weapons to Russia in return for a Russian/USA guarantee of her territorial integrity.

During "peace negotiations", Putin sent 50 more Russian tanks across the border.

How huge an idiot do you have to be to support Putin in this?

(Rhetorical question)
 
gore0bsessed
#26
Poroshenko is an anti-russian nazi terrorist and western puppet. America created this mess when they colluded to put him in charge.
 
Colpy
#27
Quote: Originally Posted by gore0bsessed View Post

Poroshenko is an anti-russian nazi terrorist and western puppet. America created this mess when they colluded to put him in charge.


The mess was there long before Poroshenko.....or hadn't you noticed?

Poroshenko is not a Nazi.
 
gore0bsessed
#28
Yeah he is a NAZI , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion

maybe you'll see the link now...

these neo nazis have headquarters in Mariupol and work for the ****ing government..


 
Colpy
#29
Quote: Originally Posted by gore0bsessed View Post

Yeah he is a NAZI , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion

maybe you'll see the link now...

these neo nazis have headquarters in Mariupol and work for the ****ing government..


Perhaps you could read the piece, and point out where you see Poroshenko listed as a member.

Are the Azov Battalian Nazis? Well, at least far right loonies....

Yep.

So, did you expect the LGBTQEWERTY groups to volunteer to fight the Russians?

At least these guys are fighting on their own soil. They are not a threat to Europe......Putin is.......
 
petros
#30
Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post


How huge an idiot do you have to be to support Putin in this?

(Rhetorical question)

We are obligated to support Ukraine.


Budapest Memorandum On Security Assurances.

The memorandum included security assurances against threats or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine as well as those of Belarus and Kazakhstan. As a result Ukraine gave up the world's third largest nuclear weapons stockpile between 1994 and 1996,[2][3] of which Ukraine had physical though not operational control. The use of the weapons was dependent on Russian controlled electronic Permissive Action Links and the Russian command and control system.[4][5]


If I remember correctly it was Canada who disassembled or at least supervised the decommissioning.
 

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