Quit Picking on the Republicans


SLM
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#121
Quote: Originally Posted by Sal View Post

what "kind" of Canadians ...

What "kind" are you implying that they are?
 
Sal
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#122
Quote: Originally Posted by SLM View Post

What "kind" are you implying that they are?

don't know, I've never seen people in Canada sport one, why would we
 
SLM
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#123
Quote: Originally Posted by Sal View Post

don't know, I've never seen people in Canada sport one, why would we

I took you for implying something specific since you put quotation marks around the word 'kind'.
 
Sal
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#124
Quote: Originally Posted by SLM View Post

I took you for implying something specific since you put quotation marks around the word 'kind'.

Even Canadians have Confederate flags on their trucks and dorm rooms.

what "kind" of Canadians... it's not a standard flag used by many...so his point was?
 
SLM
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#125
Quote: Originally Posted by Sal View Post

Even Canadians have Confederate flags on their trucks and dorm rooms.

what "kind" of Canadians... it's not a standard flag used by many...so his point was?

It seemed odd to me to put quotation marks. I inferred you were trying to make a point with your question. That's all.
 
gopher
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#126
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

Sounds like you trying to convince yourself more than anyone else


Lol! Sounds like you haven't been reading the newspapers lately. Do yourself a favor by getting your mind off of Fo卐 television and learn to get in touch with the real world.
 
pgs
Free Thinker
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#127
Quote: Originally Posted by gopher View Post

Lol! Sounds like you haven't been reading the newspapers lately. Do yourself a favor by getting your mind off of Fo卐 television and learn to get in touch with the real world.

Propaganda like Pravda is that news >
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
#128
Quote: Originally Posted by gopher View Post

Lol! Sounds like you haven't been reading the newspapers lately. Do yourself a favor by getting your mind off of Fo卐 television and learn to get in touch with the real world.

It didn't take anytime at all for you to make the ginormous leap to Nazi references.

Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

Propaganda like Pravda is that news >


No doubt, just check-out the 'statistics ' that our friend offers.... All of them are biased, simple opinions and so skewed that even a 3rd grade kid would roll their eyes
 
Walter
#129
Quote: Originally Posted by gopher View Post

Lol! Sounds like you haven't been reading the newspapers lately. Do yourself a favor by getting your mind off of Fo卐 television and learn to get in touch with the real world.

Hurray for Godwin.
 
gopher
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#130
Quote:

ginormous leap


HAHAHA!! Good one!

Quote: Originally Posted by Sal View Post

Even Canadians have Confederate flags on their trucks and dorm rooms.

what "kind" of Canadians... it's not a standard flag used by many...so his point was?



Mebbe the point is that he made the story up (?).
 
DaSleeper
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#131
One single confederate flag..........

Anyone smell a plant????
 
gopher
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#132
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post

One single confederate flag..........

Anyone smell a plant????



It must be a conspiracy! But then you have to wonder, if he was planted why was he named by WaPo?


Confederate flag in front of White House? Our politics as war by other means
 
gopher
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#133
Republican self destruction:





















It's been a bad few weeks for the GOP. Hopefully, it'll get even worse in the next election in two weeks.
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
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#134






 
gopher
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#135





CBS News Poll. Oct. 18-21, 2013

"Do you approve or disapprove of the way the Republicans in Congress are handling their job?"

Approve:18% .......... Disapprove: 78%




CNN/ORC Poll Oct. 18-20, 2013.

"Who do you think was more responsible for the recent government shutdown: Barack Obama or the Republicans in Congress?

Obama: 34% .......... Republicans in Congress: 52%

Who do you think got more of what they wanted in the bill that ended the government shutdown: Barack Obama or the Republicans in Congress?"

Obama: 64% .......... Republicans in Congress: 19%

CNN/ORC Poll. Oct. 18-20, 2013.

"We'd like to get your overall opinion of some people in the news. As I read each name, please say if you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of these people -- or if you have never heard of them. The Tea Party movement."

Favorable: 28% .......... Unfavorable: 56%







Forum delusionals say "Blame Obama" - the patriotic MAJORITY say "BLAME REPUBLICANS".

 
pgs
Free Thinker
#136
Quote: Originally Posted by gopher View Post






CBS News Poll. Oct. 18-21, 2013

"Do you approve or disapprove of the way the Republicans in Congress are handling their job?"

Approve:18% .......... Disapprove: 78%




CNN/ORC Poll Oct. 18-20, 2013.

"Who do you think was more responsible for the recent government shutdown: Barack Obama or the Republicans in Congress?


Obama: 34% .......... Republicans in Congress: 52%


Who do you think got more of what they wanted in the bill that ended the government shutdown: Barack Obama or the Republicans in Congress?"


Obama: 64% .......... Republicans in Congress: 19%


CNN/ORC Poll. Oct. 18-20, 2013.

"We'd like to get your overall opinion of some people in the news. As I read each name, please say if you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of these people -- or if you have never heard of them. The Tea Party movement."


Favorable: 28% .......... Unfavorable: 56%







Forum delusionals say "Blame Obama" - the patriotic MAJORITY say "BLAME REPUBLICANS".


If you take a poll of twenty people and ask them if 10 plus 10 equals 36 and 75 % agree does that mean that the 15 idiots are right ?

bbbbbbs
 
gopher
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#137
Quote:

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gopher
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#138
A War on the Poor



http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/01/op...R_AP_LO_MST_FB




John Kasich, the Republican governor of Ohio, has done some surprising things lately. First, he did an end run around his state’s Legislature — controlled by his own party — to proceed with the federally funded expansion of Medicaid that is an important piece of Obamacare. Then, defending his action, he let loose on his political allies, declaring, “I’m concerned about the fact there seems to be a war on the poor. That, if you’re poor, somehow you’re shiftless and lazy.”
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Obviously Mr. Kasich isn’t the first to make this observation. But the fact that it’s coming from a Republican in good standing (although maybe not anymore), indeed someone who used to be known as a conservative firebrand, is telling. Republican hostility toward the poor and unfortunate has now reached such a fever pitch that the party doesn’t really stand for anything else — and only willfully blind observers can fail to see that reality.



The big question is why.




... more ...



Well, at least the Republican party no longer claims to be the party of moral, family, and biblical or Christian values.
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
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#139
Obamacare in conjunction with the current anti-employment policies of that gvt are the biggest war on the poor going.
 
gopher
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#140
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

Obamacare in conjunction with the current anti-employment policies of that gvt are the biggest war on the poor going.



LOL! I suppose that's why 700,000 new people have enrolled for health care coverage under Obamacare.
 
BaalsTears
#141
Quote: Originally Posted by gopher View Post

LOL! I suppose that's why 700,000 new people have enrolled for health care coverage under Obamacare.

Do you have a govt. link that proves that 700k unique individuals registered at healthcare.gov and are fully registered including establishing an actual account, and that such information has been transferred to insurance companies? Pleas post the link.
 
Walter
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#142
Quote: Originally Posted by gopher View Post

LOL! I suppose that's why 700,000 new people have enrolled for health care coverage under Obamacare.

You'll find most of those will be Medicare or Medicaid qualifiers, hardly what is needed to fund the system.
 
pgs
Free Thinker
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#143
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

You'll find most of those will be Medicare or Medicaid qualifiers, hardly what is needed to fund the system.

Funding , who cares about funding , Its for the children don't you know .
 
gopher
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#144
How the Super-Rich Are Abandoning America | Common Dreams


How the Super-Rich Are Abandoning America


by Paul Buchheit
As they accumulate more and more wealth, the very rich have less need for society. At the same time, they've convinced themselves that they made it on their own, and that contributing to societal needs is unfair to them . There is ample evidence that this small group of takers is giving up on the country that made it possible for them to build huge fortunes.
Photo: luna715/cc/flickr1. They've Taken $25 Trillion of New Wealth While Paying Less Taxes
The 2013 Global Wealth Databook shows that U.S. wealth has increased from $47 trillion in 2008 to $72 trillion in mid-2013. But according to U.S. Government Revenue figures, federal income taxes have gone DOWN from 2008 to 2012. Even worse, corporations cut their tax rate in half.
American society has gained nothing from its massive wealth expansion. There's no wealth tax, no financial transaction tax, no way to ensure that infrastructure and public education are supported.
Just how much have the super-rich taken over the past five years? Each of the elite 5% -- the richest 12 million Americans -- gained, on average, nearly a million dollars in financial wealth between 2008 and 2013.
2. For the First Time in History, They Believe They Don't Need the Rest of Us
The rich have always needed the middle class to work in their factories and buy their products. With globalization this is no longer true. Their factories can be in China, producing goods for people in India or Europe or anywhere else in the world.
They don't need our infrastructure for their yachts and helicopters and submarines. They pay for private schools for their kids, private security for their homes. They have private emergency rooms to avoid the health care hassle. All they need is an assortment of servants, who might be guest workers coming to America on H2B visas, willing to work for less than a middle-class American can afford.
The sentiment is spreading from the super-rich to the merely rich. In 2005 Sandy Springs, a wealthy suburb of Atlanta, stopped paying for most public services, deciding instead to avoid subsidizing poorer residents of Fulton County by hiring a "city outsourcer" called CH2M to manage everything except the police and fire departments. That includes paving the roads, running the courts, issuing tickets, handling waste, and various other public services. Several other towns followed suit.
Results have been mixed, with some of CH2M's clients backing out or renegotiating. But privatization keeps coming at us. Selective decisions about public services threaten to worsen already destitute conditions for many communities. Detroit, of course, is at the forefront. According to an Urban Land Institute report, "more municipalities may follow Detroit's example and abandon services in certain districts."
3. They Soaked the Middle Class, and Now Demand Cuts in the Middle-Class Retirement Fund
The richest Americans take the greatest share of over $2 trillion in Tax Expenditures, Tax Underpayments, Tax Haven holdings, and unpaid Corporate Taxes.
The Social Security budget is less than half of that. Yet much of Congress and many other wealthy Americans think it should be cut. These are the same people who deprive the American public of $300 billion a year by not paying their full share of the payroll tax.
4. They Continue to Insist that They "Made It on Their Own"
They didn't. Their fortunes derived in varying degrees - usually big degrees - from public funding, which provided almost half of basic research funds into the 1980s, and even today supports about 60 percent of the research performed at universities.
Businesses rely on roads and seaports and airports to ship their products, the FAA and TSA and Coast Guard and Department of Transportation to safeguard them, a nationwide energy grid to power their factories, communications towers and satellites to conduct online business, the Department of Commerce to promote and safeguard global markets, the U.S. Navy to monitor shipping lanes, and FEMA to clean up after them.
Apple, the tax haven specialist, still does most of its product and research development in the United States, with US-educated engineers and computer scientists. Google's business is based on the Internet, which started as ARPANET, the Defense Department's Advanced Research Projects Agency computer network from the 1960s. The National Science Foundation funded the Digital Library Initiative research at Stanford University that was adopted as the Google model. Microsoft was started by our richest American, Bill Gates, whose success derived at least in part by taking the work of competitors and adapting it as his own. Same with Steve Jobs, who admitted: "We have always been shameless about stealing great ideas."
Companies like Pfizer and Merck have relied on basic research performed at the National Institute of Health. A Congressional Budget Office study reminds us that The primary rationale for the government to play a role in basic research is that private companies perform too little such research themselves (relative to what is best for society).
5. As a Final Insult, Many of Them Desert the Country that Made Them Rich
Many of the beneficiaries of American research and technology have abandoned their country because of taxes. Like multinational companies that rationalize the move by claiming to be citizens of the world, almost 2,000 Americans, and perhaps up to 8,000, have left their responsibilities behind for more favorable tax climates.
The most egregious example is Eduardo Saverin, who found safe refuge in the U.S. after his family was threatened in Brazil, landed Mark Zuckerberg as a roommate at Harvard, benefited from American technology to make billions from his 4% share in Facebook, and then skipped out on his tax bill.
An Apt Summary?
Bernard Marcus, co-founder of Home Depot and member of the Forbes 400, had this to say about any American who might object to all the greed: "Who gives a crap about some imbecile?"






Republican creed: you pay, we profit.
 
BaalsTears
+1
#145
^Who reappointed Ben Bernanke as head of the Fed? Bernanke has lined the pockets of Wall Street through Quantitative Easing. Tough question huh goph?
 
pgs
Free Thinker
#146
Quote: Originally Posted by gopher View Post

How the Super-Rich Are Abandoning America | Common Dreams


How the Super-Rich Are Abandoning America


by Paul Buchheit
As they accumulate more and more wealth, the very rich have less need for society. At the same time, they've convinced themselves that they made it on their own, and that contributing to societal needs is unfair to them . There is ample evidence that this small group of takers is giving up on the country that made it possible for them to build huge fortunes.
Photo: luna715/cc/flickr1. They've Taken $25 Trillion of New Wealth While Paying Less Taxes
The 2013 Global Wealth Databook shows that U.S. wealth has increased from $47 trillion in 2008 to $72 trillion in mid-2013. But according to U.S. Government Revenue figures, federal income taxes have gone DOWN from 2008 to 2012. Even worse, corporations cut their tax rate in half.
American society has gained nothing from its massive wealth expansion. There's no wealth tax, no financial transaction tax, no way to ensure that infrastructure and public education are supported.
Just how much have the super-rich taken over the past five years? Each of the elite 5% -- the richest 12 million Americans -- gained, on average, nearly a million dollars in financial wealth between 2008 and 2013.
2. For the First Time in History, They Believe They Don't Need the Rest of Us
The rich have always needed the middle class to work in their factories and buy their products. With globalization this is no longer true. Their factories can be in China, producing goods for people in India or Europe or anywhere else in the world.
They don't need our infrastructure for their yachts and helicopters and submarines. They pay for private schools for their kids, private security for their homes. They have private emergency rooms to avoid the health care hassle. All they need is an assortment of servants, who might be guest workers coming to America on H2B visas, willing to work for less than a middle-class American can afford.
The sentiment is spreading from the super-rich to the merely rich. In 2005 Sandy Springs, a wealthy suburb of Atlanta, stopped paying for most public services, deciding instead to avoid subsidizing poorer residents of Fulton County by hiring a "city outsourcer" called CH2M to manage everything except the police and fire departments. That includes paving the roads, running the courts, issuing tickets, handling waste, and various other public services. Several other towns followed suit.
Results have been mixed, with some of CH2M's clients backing out or renegotiating. But privatization keeps coming at us. Selective decisions about public services threaten to worsen already destitute conditions for many communities. Detroit, of course, is at the forefront. According to an Urban Land Institute report, "more municipalities may follow Detroit's example and abandon services in certain districts."
3. They Soaked the Middle Class, and Now Demand Cuts in the Middle-Class Retirement Fund
The richest Americans take the greatest share of over $2 trillion in Tax Expenditures, Tax Underpayments, Tax Haven holdings, and unpaid Corporate Taxes.
The Social Security budget is less than half of that. Yet much of Congress and many other wealthy Americans think it should be cut. These are the same people who deprive the American public of $300 billion a year by not paying their full share of the payroll tax.
4. They Continue to Insist that They "Made It on Their Own"
They didn't. Their fortunes derived in varying degrees - usually big degrees - from public funding, which provided almost half of basic research funds into the 1980s, and even today supports about 60 percent of the research performed at universities.
Businesses rely on roads and seaports and airports to ship their products, the FAA and TSA and Coast Guard and Department of Transportation to safeguard them, a nationwide energy grid to power their factories, communications towers and satellites to conduct online business, the Department of Commerce to promote and safeguard global markets, the U.S. Navy to monitor shipping lanes, and FEMA to clean up after them.
Apple, the tax haven specialist, still does most of its product and research development in the United States, with US-educated engineers and computer scientists. Google's business is based on the Internet, which started as ARPANET, the Defense Department's Advanced Research Projects Agency computer network from the 1960s. The National Science Foundation funded the Digital Library Initiative research at Stanford University that was adopted as the Google model. Microsoft was started by our richest American, Bill Gates, whose success derived at least in part by taking the work of competitors and adapting it as his own. Same with Steve Jobs, who admitted: "We have always been shameless about stealing great ideas."
Companies like Pfizer and Merck have relied on basic research performed at the National Institute of Health. A Congressional Budget Office study reminds us that The primary rationale for the government to play a role in basic research is that private companies perform too little such research themselves (relative to what is best for society).
5. As a Final Insult, Many of Them Desert the Country that Made Them Rich
Many of the beneficiaries of American research and technology have abandoned their country because of taxes. Like multinational companies that rationalize the move by claiming to be citizens of the world, almost 2,000 Americans, and perhaps up to 8,000, have left their responsibilities behind for more favorable tax climates.
The most egregious example is Eduardo Saverin, who found safe refuge in the U.S. after his family was threatened in Brazil, landed Mark Zuckerberg as a roommate at Harvard, benefited from American technology to make billions from his 4% share in Facebook, and then skipped out on his tax bill.
An Apt Summary?
Bernard Marcus, co-founder of Home Depot and member of the Forbes 400, had this to say about any American who might object to all the greed: "Who gives a crap about some imbecile?"






Republican creed: you pay, we profit.

How many of those super rich support democrats ? Warren Buffet is apparently an Obahma supporter is he not one of the richest men in the world ? The Kennedy's , Al Gore , George Soros who exactly is your anger pointed at little Gopher ? Look at any coin and you will see 2 sides .
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
+1
#147
Quote: Originally Posted by gopher View Post

How the Super-Rich Are Abandoning America | Common Dreams


How the Super-Rich Are Abandoning America


This article should have renamed to: How an Entitled Society is Chasing Away the Goose that Laid the Golden Egg.

Hey goph - did you get your Obamaphone last election?
 
gopher
No Party Affiliation
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#148
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

How many of those super rich support democrats ? Warren Buffet is apparently an Obahma supporter is he not one of the richest men in the world ? The Kennedy's , Al Gore , George Soros who exactly is your anger pointed at little Gopher ? Look at any coin and you will see 2 sides .



Over the years you and the rest of the forum's Tea Baggers have seen me comment upon the closing of ALL foreign tax shelters. In fact your fellows have commented on this as well. At no point have I ever said that tax shelters for wealthy Democrats should be exempt from taxation. Thus, contrary to your delusionalism, I have said that the government needs to close all such shelters.
 
DaSleeper
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#149
Quote: Originally Posted by Teabag View Post

Over the years you and the rest of the forum's Tea Baggers have seen me comment upon the closing of ALL foreign tax shelters. In fact your fellows have commented on this as well. At no point have I ever said that tax shelters for wealthy Democrats should be exempt from taxation. Thus, contrary to your delusionalism, I have said that the government needs to close all such shelters.

Fantasising again?
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
+3
#150
Quote: Originally Posted by gopher View Post

Over the years you and the rest of the forum's Tea Baggers have seen me comment upon the closing of ALL foreign tax shelters. In fact your fellows have commented on this as well. At no point have I ever said that tax shelters for wealthy Democrats should be exempt from taxation. Thus, contrary to your delusionalism, I have said that the government needs to close all such shelters.


Yes gopher, we are all aware that you support the notion that the gubmint 'nationalize' all of the wealth of those that have more money/assets than you.

Lemme guess, the cut-off rate at which the gubmint stops the practice is an amount that is exactly $1 more than what you make?
 

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