Makayla Has Passed Away - girl who refused chemo for leukemia


EagleSmack
#31
Quote: Originally Posted by IdRatherBeSkiing View Post

Well, I will eagerly await the autopsy report before taking any blame off them. Of course, my blame doesn't really matter. Bottom line is their daughter is dead most likely because they refused treatment. But blaming modern medicine probably makes them feel better and I guess there is something in that. But I see this death as entirely preventable (barring any revelations to the contrary from the autopsy report).

Don't hold your breath Ski.

They will never admit they are wrong and because they are first nations little criticism will come their way. We can only look on and sadly shake our heads.

She had a 75% chance... now they will bury her.
 
Twila
#32
Here's some information on the cancers that are caused by chemotherapy and radiation(interestingly radiation treatment is one of the causes of Makayla's type of cancer):

http://www.cancer.org/acs/groups/cid...002043-pdf.pdf

Quote: Originally Posted by IdRatherBeSkiing View Post

Well, I will eagerly await the autopsy report before taking any blame off them. Of course, my blame doesn't really matter. Bottom line is their daughter is dead most likely because they refused treatment. But blaming modern medicine probably makes them feel better and I guess there is something in that. But I see this death as entirely preventable (barring any revelations to the contrary from the autopsy report).

This death by this cancer...what about her eventual death due to cancers that were caused by the treatment of her first cancer, had she continued with treatement?
Last edited by Twila; Jan 20th, 2015 at 02:56 PM..
 
EagleSmack
#33
Wait what?
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
+2
#34
Quote: Originally Posted by Twila View Post

This death by this cancer...what about her eventual death due to cancers that were caused by the treatment of her first cancer?

Unfortunatly cancer sucks. As it stands she is 100% dead from THIS cancer. If she had gotten a secondary cancer she would have had a N% shot of fighting it.

What your studies fails to account that the person may have been destined to get the secondary cancer anyways but is now actually alive to receive them. Previously, they would be dead and therefore unable to get a secondary cancer. Cancer sucks and from what I can tell, once you get it you are always fighting it.
 
MHz
#35
Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolf View Post

What IS the best cure for cancer?

Not getting it in the first place.
 
lone wolf
+1
#36
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

Not getting it in the first place.

As if anyone has a choice there....
 
MHz
#37
Quote: Originally Posted by Twila View Post


This death by this cancer...what about her eventual death due to cancers that were caused by the treatment of her first cancer, had she continued with treatement?

. . . and what if this page had been part of a natural treatment that was held back because it was called 'witch-craft' by the makers of the chemo machines, and nobody else?
Another 'weed' that is actually useful, what other plants got mislabeled by 'science'?

Dandelion Root - Alternative Cancer Treatments

Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolf View Post

As if anyone has a choice there....

Perhaps, if cancer cells like an acidic place and one that is low in 02 levels then boosting the ph of my drinking water a few times a year and getting lots of O2 into me is easy. (a night light that drips oxygen would be about the only effort needed). Not really needing society to change before I sake matter into my own hands, for pennies a year.
 
EagleSmack
#38
what?
 
MHz
#39
Bison piss, how many jugs you want, only cure for hearing loss that I've heard of. PS PRINT BIGGER
 
hermanntrude
+1
#40
I for one feel like it's necessary to bow my head and respect that these people made a more difficult decision that any i have ever had to make, that i am not the man to judge whether or not they decided right, and to leave it at that.

some things are beyond our scope and should be left un-bickered about
 
EagleSmack
#41
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

Bison piss, how many jugs you want, only cure for hearing loss that I've heard of. PS PRINT BIGGER

huh?
 
Twila
+1
#42
Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolf View Post

What IS the best cure for cancer?

Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

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Perhaps, if cancer cells like an acidic place and one that is low in 02 levels then boosting the ph of my drinking water a few times a year and getting lots of O2 into me is easy. (a night light that drips oxygen would be about the only effort needed). Not really needing society to change before I sake matter into my own hands, for pennies a year.

There is a problem with the word cure. You don't cure cancer.

Because cancer changes the cell DNA and does it by replicating/reproducing itself at a must faster rate then the cells had done before becoming cancerous, the effects of the changed dna are unpredictable.

This is why there is no single treatment for cancer and why there is no miracle cure. It's the unpredictable nature of the replicating DNA that has us lambasting the body with radiation and chemotherapy as treatments. It can be targeted to the area the cells are currently inhabitting and it kills ALL the cells. Good and bad. Add the cancer cells breaking away and travelling the body and you have an almost assured death.

Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

. . . and what if this page had been part of a natural treatment that was held back because it was called 'witch-craft' by the makers of the chemo machines, and nobody else?
Another 'weed' that is actually useful, what other plants got mislabeled by 'science'?

Dandelion Root - Alternative Cancer Treatments

what media often fails to mention is the alternative treatements are not stand alone treatments but in conjunction with radiation and chemotherapy.

There is no conspiracy by scientists to withhold working treatment. Scientists are not in it for the money. They're in it for the fame and the science.
 
MHz
#43
Quote: Originally Posted by hermanntrude View Post


some things are beyond our scope and should be left un-bickered about

Even that part of your quote I bolded? That hardly seems fair

No Conspiracy, really. There are no bacteria that don't have a cheap and easy solution to their demise. Tell me you are well versed in this concept before this vid because it is in widespread practice today in North America. We are just now advertising silver in band-aids as being a good thing yet colloidal silver is a drug from the devil, it has to be one or the other, it can't be both.

I wouldn't advocate anybody change anything until they do the research themselves, however if the medical system ever breaks where the pharmacy is out of materials and the hospital has armed guards keeping you out the what is your alternative?


www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqlrSO-bgrY
 
Twila
#44
More information from Makayla's mom on her death.

Mrs. Sault spoke at much greater length, outlining the treatment her daughter received after abandoning the chemotherapy. Makayla, she said, received regular care from her family physician and from an oncologist at McMaster as well as from a “traditional” healer.

Chemotherapy, she said, “took a horrific toll on Makayla.” She suffered blood infections and became so ill she couldn’t hold down food or liquids “for days or weeks at a time.” Eventually, she said, Makayla became convinced the chemotherapy itself was killing her.

“She said she wanted to try traditional medicine instead,” Mrs. Sault said. “Her words to us were ‘I don’t care if I’m going to die, I don’t want to die weak and sick in a hospital.'”

After initially improving, Makayla took a turn for the worse last fall. She died in January after suffering a stroke. Her family, though, blamed her death not on cancer, but on the side effects from the chemotherapy.

On Thursday, Mrs. Sault said her daughter’s condition deteriorated after she suffered “an adverse reaction to an antibiotic.

“Her blood pressure skyrocketed. Less than a week after she was taken off the drug, she had a stroke and the next day she passed.”



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