ALERT! Monkeys have been cloned; Are people far behind?


spaminator
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ALERT! Monkeys have been cloned; Are people far behind?
Associated Press
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Published:
January 24, 2018
Updated:
January 24, 2018 6:02 PM EST
By Malcolm Ritter, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
NEW YORK — For the first time, researchers have used the cloning technique that produced Dolly the sheep to create healthy monkeys, bringing science an important step closer to being able to do the same with humans.
Since Dolly’s birth in 1996, scientists have cloned nearly two dozen kinds of mammals, including dogs, cats, pigs, cows and polo ponies, and have also created human embryos with this method. But until now, they have been unable to make babies this way in primates, the category that includes monkeys, apes and people.
“The barrier of cloning primate species is now overcome,” declared Muming Poo of the Chinese Academy of Sciences in Shanghai.
In a paper released Wednesday by the journal Cell, he and his colleagues announced that they successfully created two macaques. The female baby monkeys, about 7 and 8 weeks old, are named Zhong Zhong and Hua Hua.
This image from video provided by the Chinese Academy of Sciences in January 2018 shows cloned monkeys Zhong Zhong and Hua Hua in Shanghai, China. (Qiang Sun and Mu-ming Poo/Chinese Academy of Sciences via AP)
“It’s been a long road,” said one scientist who tried and failed to make monkeys and was not involved in the new research, Shoukhrat Mitalipov of Oregon Health & Science University. “Finally, they did it.”
Poo said the feat shows that the cloning of humans is theoretically possible. But he said his team has no intention of doing that. Mainstream scientists generally oppose making human babies by cloning, and Poo said society would ban it for ethical reasons.
Instead, he said, the goal is to create lots of genetically identical monkeys for use in medical research, where they would be particularly valuable because they are more like humans than other lab animals such as mice or rats.
The process is still very inefficient — it took 127 eggs to get the two babies — and so far it has succeeded only by starting with a monkey fetus. The scientists failed to produce healthy babies from an adult monkey, though they are still trying and are awaiting the outcome of some pregnancies. Dolly caused a sensation because she was the first mammal cloned from an adult.
This image from video provided by the Chinese Academy of Sciences in January 2018 shows cloned monkeys Zhong Zhong and Hua Hua in Shanghai, China. (Qiang Sun and Mu-ming Poo/Chinese Academy of Sciences via AP)
The procedure was technically challenging. Essentially, the Chinese scientists removed the DNA-containing nucleus from monkey eggs and replaced it with DNA from the monkey fetus. These reconstituted eggs grew and divided, finally becoming an early embryo, which was then placed into female monkeys to grow to birth.
The scientists implanted 79 embryos to produce the two babies. Still, the approach succeeded where others had failed. Poo said that was because of improvements in lab techniques and because researchers added two substances that helped reprogram the DNA from the fetus. That let the DNA abandon its job in the fetus, which involves things like helping to make collagen, and take on the new task of creating an entire monkey.
The Chinese researchers said cloning of fetal cells could be combined with gene editing techniques to produce large numbers of monkeys with certain genetic defects that cause disease in people. The animals could then be used to study such diseases and test treatments. The researchers said their initial targets will be Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s.
Mitalipov, noting the Chinese failed to produce healthy babies from adult cells, said he suspects attempts to clone babies from a human adult would also fail. “I don’t think it would be advisable to anyone to even think about it,” he said.
In this undated photo provided by the Chinese Academy of Sciences, cloned monkey Zhong Zhong sits with a fabric toy. (Qiang Sun and Mu-ming Poo/Chinese Academy of Sciences via AP)
Jose Cibelli, a scientist at Michigan State University, said it might be technically possible someday, but “criminal” to try now because of the suffering caused by the many lost pregnancies the process entails.
If the procedure became efficient enough in monkeys, he said, society could face “a big ethical dilemma” over whether to adapt it for humans. The key step of transferring DNA might be combined with gene editing to correct genetic disorders in embryos, allowing healthy babies to be born, he said.
Of course, the familiar image of human cloning involves making a copy of someone already born. That might be possible someday, but “I don’t think it should be pursued,” said researcher Dieter Egli of Columbia University. “I can’t think of a strong benefit.”
In this undated photo provided by the Chinese Academy of Sciences, cloned monkey Hua Hua sits with a fabric toy. (Qiang Sun and Mu-ming Poo/Chinese Academy of Sciences via AP)
Henry Greely, a Stanford University law professor who specializes in the implications of biomedical technologies, said the strongest argument he can think of would be the desire of grieving parents to produce a genetic duplicate of a dead child. But he doubts that’s a compelling enough reason to undertake the extensive and costly effort needed to get such a procedure approved, at least for “decades and decades.”
Marcy Darnovsky, executive director of the Center for Genetics and Society in Berkeley, California, called it unethical to subject that new child to “the psychological and emotional risks of living under the shadow of its genetic predecessor.” Human cloning could also require many women to donate eggs and to serve as surrogates, she said.
At the moment, because of safety concerns, federal regulators in the U.S. would not allow making a human baby by cloning, and international scientific groups also oppose it, said biomedical ethics expert Insoo Hyun of Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland.
People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals condemned the monkey-cloning experiments.
“Cloning is a horror show: a waste of lives, time and money — and the suffering that such experiments cause is unimaginable,” PETA Senior Vice-President Kathy Guillermo said in a statement.
Associated Press reporter Dake Kang in Beijing contributed to this story.
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Curious Cdn
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China, a nation of 1.3 billion, almost identical human beings is working toward closing humans.


Why?
 
Danbones
#3
Just the sheeple will get cloned - the ones with a MF like "high party social score"
 
Curious Cdn
#4
Quote: Originally Posted by Danbones View Post

Just the sheeple will get cloned - the ones with a MF like "high party social score"

Crap ...a dozen Kim Jong Uns and a half dozen Kim Kardashians...
 
Danbones
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#5  Top Rated Post


I'd be more worried about genetic manipulation and trans humanism.
 
Curious Cdn
#6
Quote: Originally Posted by Danbones View Post



I'd be more worried about genetic manipulation and trans humanism.

Why? You got something against Centaurs?
 
Danbones
+1
#7
Chiron (a centaur) taught the "sons of the gods" ( Hercules, etc)

so maybe he already cloned humans...
 
darkbeaver
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The ancient dark arts come to the light of life again. Every manner of difilement will be sought to overcome the primacy of nature. Hate makes us believe we can build a better apple but time has already over and over again corrected mankind and saved it from monsters of its own design. So far so good, the heavens are filled with dead worlds, one more makes little difference to the one place.

Quote: Originally Posted by Danbones View Post

Chiron (a centaur) taught the "sons of the gods" ( Hercules, etc)

so maybe he already cloned humans...

There is nothing new under the Son. eh
 
Danbones
#9
Chiron was known for his knowledge and skill with : medicine, music, archery, hunting, gymnastics and the art of prophecy, and thus, was credited with the discovery of botany and pharmacy, the science of herbs and medicine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiron

chi and rho ( X and 100)

nope
 
taxslave
+1
#10
We have been cloning people for decades. Just look at an office full of bureaucraps.
 
Danbones
+1
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Yeah, there has been brain cloning for sure.

But, you would think they would clone up a couple extra shovels for the crew...
 
darkbeaver
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by Danbones View Post

Chiron was known for his knowledge and skill with : medicine, music, archery, hunting, gymnastics and the art of prophecy, and thus, was credited with the discovery of botany and pharmacy, the science of herbs and medicine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiron

chi and rho ( X and 100)

nope

Also> Chiron is involved with the Exodus of Earth from its older orbit during the Crossover to the next orbit during the reformation of the heavens

I am not a monkey, I am that monkeys uncle and my sister is that monkeys aunt. Did we come forth from monkeys or did the monkeys come forth frum us? Are monkeys a cloning invention to relieve the farmers from the back breaking drudgery of picking bananas?
 
Hoid
#13
it will be a tremendous step forward in healthcare.
 
darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

it will be a tremendous step forward in healthcare.

Who markets health care? WHO--- world health organization----and the health of the world is what-------isn,t it healthier when it,s sick? How is health measured at the pharmacy?
 
Hoid
+1
#15
Someday all blind people might be able to receive new eyes to see with.

Someday they may actually be able to clone whatever the **** it is that you are missing.
 
B00Mer
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Someday all blind people might be able to receive new eyes to see with.

Someday they may actually be able to clone whatever the **** it is that you are missing.

We will live forever..

New heart, kidney, liver..

[youtube]oRHxX9OW9ow[/youtube]
 
White_Unifier
#17
Her's my position on cloning:

If I clone myself, then I'm creating my twin brother and so a son for my parents. As far as I'm concerned, I should have no legal right to create a child for my parents without their explicit free and willing consent; and not just the consent of one of them, but of both of them.

The same applies if someone decided to clone my child. He'd be cloning not just a sibling for him but also a child for me and my wife. Certainly my wife and I ought to have the right to decide whether we agree to someone creating a child for us without both her and my explicit free and willing consent.
 
petros
#18
When you hit the age of majority you became your own person.

Parents shmarents, say they are dead and go visit them with your sister.
 
White_Unifier
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Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

When you hit the age of majority you became your own person.

Parents shmarents, say they are dead and go visit them with your sister.

This does raise an ethical question though. If I clone myself, logically I'm creating a twin brother for myself and so a child for my parents. Do I have a right to create a child for my parents without their consent?

Likewise, if my son clones himself, he's not just creating a brother for himself but a child for us too. Should we not have a say as to whether we want another child or not?

I know that the law would not hold us responsible for the child due to lack of control over our son's decision to clone himself, but still, it's the principle of the matter.
Last edited by White_Unifier; Jan 25th, 2018 at 03:50 PM..
 
darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Someday all blind people might be able to receive new eyes to see with.

Someday they may actually be able to clone whatever the **** it is that you are missing.

A new forskin? And thicker hair.
 
Torch light
+1 / -1
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Quote: Originally Posted by spaminator View Post

ALERT! Monkeys have been cloned; Are people far behind?

This is part of the work of Satan, to suggest to man that he should alter God's creation.

Quran 4: 118-119, which means:
(118. And the [Devil] said, "[God] assuredly, I will take [for deceiving] a large number of Your servants [whom I should deceive in order to fulfill my swearing.]"

119. "I will mislead them, arouse vain desires in them, order them to cleave the ears of cattle and I will order them to change the creation of God i; whoever takes Satan for a master instead of God, he certainly suffers a manifest loss."
.................................................. .................

119 i Which is the castration of the cattle and the cock. While the (changing of God’s creation) concerning people: what they do nowadays, when an operation is done for the female hermaphrodite to become a man, and for the male hermaphrodite to become a woman: and this is the changing of God's creation.

Also included in it is the shaving of beards and mustaches, and the epilation of the eyebrow of the woman to become delicate, and cutting off the braid, which is not allowed.

In addition, among the things that Satan ordered people to change are the rice and wheat, so that they changed their advantages by removing their covers: God created vitamin B in the cover of the rice which is the bran, so Satan ordered them to remove the bran from the rice to become more tasty; and God made many starchy substances with a precious food advantage, but Satan ordered them to remove it by purifying the rice by the sieve during its cooking, and by this way the rice advantages of the vitaminous and starchy substances have been removed.

Moreover, he ordered them to remove the cover of the wheat (the bran) so that the bread will be more tasty, while they don't know what nutritious advantages it includes for the body.

More explanation is in the link:
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/4.htm#a4_118
quran-ayat.com/pret/4.htm#a4_118
 
B00Mer
#22
Torch Light go drink bleach
 
Curious Cdn
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

it will be a tremendous step forward in healthcare.

Yup. We'll be cloning humans, then slaughtering them for their organs.


That'll work.
 
White_Unifier
#24
Man clones self and tells parents: Mom, dad, meet my new brother and your new child.
 
Curious Cdn
#25
I love My clone shoes,
My crazy clone shoes.
They take My stink-a-roos
to bring you good news.
Whatever they doos, these crazy twos
is make You laugh and carry away
those blues.
– my crazy clone shoes
 
justfred99
#26
Don't let Donald Trump hear about this. One of him in the world is enough!
 
sophiewilson019
#27
Here is an article about the China cloned monkeys.
First the sheep now the monkeys.
 

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