Cash prize offered for 9/11 theory


moghrabi
#1
Cash prize offered for 9/11 theory
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Thursday 16 December 2004 9:58 AM GMT

Jimmy Walter has spent more than $3 million promoting a conspiracy theory that the September 11 attacks on the United States were an inside job.

And he is offering more cash to anyone who proves him wrong.

The millionaire activist is so convinced of a government cover-up that he is offering a $100,000 reward to any engineering student who can prove the World Trade Center buildings crumbled the way the government says they did.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exer...FA1934F075.htm
 
no1important
#2
Well if there is a conspiracy and I say if. Anyone who gets too close to the truth probabley would not be around long to talk about it.
 
Paranoid Dot Calm
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moghrabi
#4
Quote: Originally Posted by no1important

Well if there is a conspiracy and I say if. Anyone who gets too close to the truth probabley would not be around long to talk about it.

I agree. So lets keep a record of people dying (killed)in a mysterious way.
 
missile
Conservative
#5
The only conspiracy I know of is that most of the people who took over those planes were Saudi nationals..
 
moghrabi
#6
Quote: Originally Posted by missile

The only conspiracy I know of is that most of the people who took over those planes were Saudi nationals..

Missile, are you saying that the Saudi hijackers are a conspiracy? I just did not get what you are saying.
 
missile
Conservative
#7
I'm saying this: if nearly all the terrorists on those planes were Saudis,and I was the American president-I would have immediately attacked Saudi Arabia. This didn't happen & that is the conspiracy. Also,not one Israeli citizen died in the towers! Make of that whatever you will. My guess is they had warnings not to go to work that day.
 
no1important
#8
The saudi's have always been involved with terrorism. For some reason america always does nothing about them. I guess they are "friends" or something but Saudi Arabia plays both sides of the fence.
 
missile
Conservative
#9
That's it,Israel and Arabia are American friends.So,the country is attacked and somebody has to pay for it-and they attack Iraq on trumped up allegations.Sadly,most Americans believe they are doing the right thing.
 
moghrabi
#10
Quote: Originally Posted by missile

I'm saying this: if nearly all the terrorists on those planes were Saudis,and I was the American president-I would have immediately attacked Saudi Arabia. This didn't happen & that is the conspiracy. Also,not one Israeli citizen died in the towers! Make of that whatever you will. My guess is they had warnings not to go to work that day.

You are absolutely right. No doubt in my mind that the US shouold have gone after Saudi Arabia.
 
Just the Facts
Free Thinker
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by missile

My guess is they had warnings not to go to work that day.

Why would Al Qaeda warn Israeli's?
 
moghrabi
#12
He means the US warned the Israelis not to go to work. There are reports that 5000 Jewish people did not report to work on 9/11.
 
Just the Facts
Free Thinker
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by moghrabi

He means the US warned the Israelis not to go to work. There are reports that 5000 Jewish people did not report to work on 9/11.

I know I was being purposefully obtuse.

Those "reports" are of course nothing but the rantings of lunatics. This guy sums it pretty well, I think:

...it would mean that the Israeli government had the phone numbers of 4,000 Jews, and called each one up telling them to stay home. "Hello Sol? Yeah, this is Mossad. We just wanted to let you know that we're about to destroy the twin towers and blame it on Ishmael, so don't go to work tommorrow." How is it that 4,000 people could be warned, and yet none of these "Zionists" told anyone?...

...Finally, to clear up this whole "4,000 Jews" mess, let it be known that on the day of the attack certain concerned Israeli media outlets noted that it was believed that close to four thousand Israelis worked in New York city. This was a rough estimate, and nothing more. Unfortunately, within days certain Media outlets took that number and ran with it, putting the Israelis all in the World Trade Center, and claiming none of them showed up for work. No evidence has ever been cited...


http://www.geocities.com/freethought...blamegame.html
 
moghrabi
#14
This point is open for debate. There are a lot of sources that contradict what you are saying. Now this 9/11 business is too complicated to even consider who did what. Only history and some brave guys who are willing to prove otherwise will tell.
 
no1important
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My suspicion is only a few thousand died.(which is horrible itself) but I thought those buildings held 10,000 people or more each and it was about 9 am when it went down so the buildings should of been full.

So did all those other people get out? I am confused as I read reports the stairwells were blocked and it was almost impossible to get out, so why was the death toll so low? No one above where the planes hit could get out and a lot of people dying from the aircraft impact so it makes me wonder if their is a hidden conspiracy....it just seems the buildings were not as full as they should of been.
 
Just the Facts
Free Thinker
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by no1important

My suspicion is only a few thousand died.(which is horrible itself) but I thought those buildings held 10,000 people or more each and it was about 9 am when it went down so the buildings should of been full.

So did all those other people get out? I am confused as I read reports the stairwells were blocked and it was almost impossible to get out, so why was the death toll so low? No one above where the planes hit could get out and a lot of people dying from the aircraft impact so it makes me wonder if their is a hidden conspiracy....it just seems the buildings were not as full as they should of been.

Yes those buildings held much more than 10,000 people. 10,000 was the number the news channels were throwing around as casualty estimates as it was happening. Fortunately, many people got out of the first building, and many people wisely got out of the second one before it got hit. It's been a while now but I read many first hand accounts of narrow escapes. I'm sure you'll find many if you google. If I recall there was one stairwell that was passable from above, but I forget which building.
 
moghrabi
#17
Now can anyone tell me how tower #7 collapsed?
 
passpatoo
#18
A friend of mine had a theory regarding how so few died. Having spent some time working in NY, he told me that New Yorkers are notoriously late for work. This is due in part to a blase' (sp?) attitude combined with horrific commuting conditions.

Many of the people who worked in the towers were still picking up thier starbuck's on their way to work when the planes hit.
 
moghrabi
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Quote: Originally Posted by passpatoo

A friend of mine had a theory regarding how so few died. Having spent some time working in NY, he told me that New Yorkers are notoriously late for work. This is due in part to a blase' (sp?) attitude combined with horrific commuting conditions.

Many of the people who worked in the towers were still picking up thier starbuck's on their way to work when the planes hit.

That is another theory. But have you ever wondered how tower # 7 collapsed?
 
Matty
#20
#7 collapsed from all the debris and rubble of the South and North tower slamming into it when they fell. Despite my dislike of the current US Administration, I find it hard to imagine such people willing to go to such lengths. To what end would the US government perpotrate such a plan?
 
no1important
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Quote: Originally Posted by passpatoo

A friend of mine had a theory regarding how so few died. Having spent some time working in NY, he told me that New Yorkers are notoriously late for work. This is due in part to a blase' (sp?) attitude combined with horrific commuting conditions.

That makes sense.

I read some "conspiracy theories" and most sound out to lunch. Some even suggesting bombs going off in the basement of each tower.......but me like millions if not billions of people saw a Plane hit each building, so that really kills any conspiracy in my opinion.

I can not for the life of me also believe the US government was behind it. That is so absurd it is not even funny.
 
notsoproud2
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Quote: Originally Posted by no1important

Quote: Originally Posted by passpatoo

A friend of mine had a theory regarding how so few died. Having spent some time working in NY, he told me that New Yorkers are notoriously late for work. This is due in part to a blase' (sp?) attitude combined with horrific commuting conditions.

That makes sense.

I read some "conspiracy theories" and most sound out to lunch. Some even suggesting bombs going off in the basement of each tower.......but me like millions if not billions of people saw a Plane hit each building, so that really kills any conspiracy in my opinion.

I can not for the life of me also believe the US government was behind it. That is so absurd it is not even funny.

Have you heard the one about the website discussing the "9/11 game" which was supposedly created back in the 1980s. Let me see if I can find the link.
 
moghrabi
#23
Is there an actual game created in 1980 called 9/11. Please find the link if you don't mind Notsoproudso.

PS. From what I am reading, your name should be chnaged to iamproud2.
 
notsoproud2
#24
It's not called 9/11 but something else - I can't remember right now. Will look for this in my emails.

It is a game with cards showing airplanes flying into the twin towers, the pentagon on fire, there's an anthrax card... claims it was made in the 1980s, I believe and the author, a former member of the Bilderbergers, underwent computer search by the gov. (if memory serves me correctly). I can't see how one could determine if the game was really created before the fact or someone is hoaxing.
 
Vanni Fucci
Free Thinker
#25
Oh man...I'm going to have loads of fun with this one...

Anyone remember the X-Files spin-off series called The Lone Gunmen?

The pilot episode for that series, called aptly enough "The Pilot", involved a secret government conspiracy that the lead characters stumbled upon, whereby a commercial jetliner was hijacked by a shadowy faction of the government, with the intent of remote piloting it into the World Trade Center, the result of which would drive the American people into a frame of mind more conducive to the prospect of war...the plot was foiled by the resident conspiracy theorists, and all was well...

That pilot episode aired 6 months before 9/11...
 
Vanni Fucci
Free Thinker
#26
For those of you who disbelieve that the American government could not have had anything to do with orchestrating 9/11...

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/fre..._krongard.html

Quote: Originally Posted by Michael Ruppert

Between September 6 and 7, the Chicago Board Options Exchange saw purchases of 4,744 put options on United Airlines, but only 396 call options. Assuming that 4,000 of the options were bought by people with advance knowledge of the imminent attacks, these "insiders" would have profited by almost $5 million.

- On September 10, 4,516 put options on American Airlines were bought on the Chicago exchange, compared to only 748 calls. Again, there was no news at that point to justify this imbalance; Again, assuming that 4,000 of these options trades represent "insiders," they would represent a gain of about $4 million.

- [The levels of put options purchased above were more than six times higher than normal.]

- No similar trading in other airlines occurred on the Chicago exchange in the days immediately preceding Black Tuesday.

These transactions were traced back to one A.B. "Buzzy" Krongard, the Executive Director of the CIA...and former Chairman of A.B. Brown, and former Vice Chairman of the Bankers Trust...
 
notsoproud2
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Quote: Originally Posted by notsoproud2

It's not called 9/11 but something else - I can't remember right now. Will look for this in my emails.

It is a game with cards showing airplanes flying into the twin towers, the pentagon on fire, there's an anthrax card... claims it was made in the 1980s, I believe and the author, a former member of the Bilderbergers, underwent computer search by the gov. (if memory serves me correctly). I can't see how one could determine if the game was really created before the fact or someone is hoaxing.

I really had it wrong. It's 1995 instead of 1980, and The Illuminati instead of the Bilderbergers.

http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1753.cfm
"Illuminati New World Order" Game

Probably a hoax, but I would be interested in hearing your views.
 
Vanni Fucci
Free Thinker
#28
The Tragic End of John P. O' Neill...

http://www.hereinreality.com/johnoneill.html

John O'Neill was a Deputy Director of the FBI who was in charge of anti-terrorism, and specifically, was investigating the alleged Al-Quaeda attack on the USS Cole...after returning from Yemen, he resigned his post in protest of the lax attitude of government officials over Al-Qaeda...two weeks later he began his new job as Chief of Security at...you guessed it...the World Trade Center complex...
 
Vanni Fucci
Free Thinker
#29
The Strange But True Story of the Five Dancing Israelis...

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html

Two Israelis working in WTC were warned of impending attack two hours prior...

http://www.rense.com/general19/bef.htm
 
Vanni Fucci
Free Thinker
#30
In addition to there being relatively few deaths in New York, the Pentagon was hit in an area that was in the process of being renovated...thus there were no people working there...another interesting point about the Pentagon was that where the plane impacted was the only area that had had the walls reinforced...which probably prevented the plane from flying right through the Pentagon into Rumsfeld's office, which was on the exact opposite side from the crash...

Now as to the planes...

http://www.caryn.com/holiday/holiday-xmas-911.html

Quote:

American Airlines Flight 77

This Boeing 757 that was flown into the outside of the Pentagon could have carried up to 289 people, yet only 64 were aboard. Luckily 78% of the seats were empty.

American Airlines Flight 11

This Boeing 767 could have had up to 351 people aboard, but only carried 92. Thankfully 74% of the seats were unfilled.

United Airlines Flight 175

Another Boeing 767 that could have seated 351 people only had 65 people on board. Fortunately it was 81% empty.


United Airlines Flight 93

This Boeing 757 was one of the most uplifting stories yet. The smallest flight to be hijacked with only 45 people aboard out of a possible 289 had 84% of its capacity unused. Yet these people stood up to the attackers and thwarted a fourth attempted destruction of a national landmark, saving untold numbers of lives in the process.