Should Quebec separate from Canada? (Should Quebec Separate From Canada)


Dalreg
#91
Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah!
This horse has been beaten to death over and over. Leave or shut up!
 
s_lone
#92
Quote: Originally Posted by Dalreg View Post

Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah!
This horse has been beaten to death over and over. Leave or shut up!

Va prendre une marche pour te calmer...
 
Logic 7
#93
Yes they should only for those reasons:


Cultural
Language
Economy
Mentality.
 
DurkaDurka
No Party Affiliation
#94
Quote: Originally Posted by Logic 7 View Post

Yes they should only for those reasons:


Cultural
Language
Economy
Mentality.

Economy? Care to elaborate on that?
 
Sassylassie
#95
Durka, the economy ergo all those lovely Federal Jobs. Oh and Maple syrup, I bet that is a trillion dollar industry.
 
ottawabill
#96
I find it highly unlikely that quebec will ever officially seperate from Canada..their ongoing unoffical seperation works so well for them. They hardly have 1/4 of the population (maybe less?) but get the ear of government like they were the majority. Tons of money and jobs that would not have gone to Quebec if not for the Federal incentives. A a bilingual program making French official everywhere funded by the total population of the country.

The funny part is ..Quebec looks towards the U.S. for seperation support...a country that staunchly remains uniligual no matter who many Latinos live there. Do you really think the U.S. would support French in North America. With the small French population..and even smaller French only speaking population (maybe 4 million) how long do they think their language would last then?

My fear of seperation is a downward spiril for the rest of the country..how do you get to the east coast? what about western seperation?

But again as far as I am concerned they will not leave..they have a good thing going...
 
Sassylassie
#97
Yes Bill Quebec has it made in the shade, and when they want more than their share they scream "Seperate" and the Feds trip all over themselves giving Quebec what it wants. The East is tired of Quebec and it's never ending Whining, they are a spoiled over indulged Province. Leave good grief who would pay for all those special things unique to Quebec, like cheap child care paid for by all Canadians.
 
ottawabill
#98
Unfortunately Sassie, we are all wrapped up with the stupid situation with no end. Taking up tons of money that could be much better spent across the whole nation instead of funneled to one area.

I for one have no problem with Quebec as a province, it's people, it's language or even culture..they likely add a nice balance to the dullness of the typical Canadian hahaha!! I even send my kids to french immersion school. Not because of some great Canadian patriotic nature but rather that I live not to far from Quebec therefore knowing French is an advantage for them to find work...You know market forces!!.like the old..French where number warrant policy!!

However this unfair advantage politics mixed in with veil threats and stupid old grey haired men yakking away about the gory of France in the 1640's drives me over the bend....
 
s_lone
#99
Quote: Originally Posted by ottawabill View Post


However this unfair advantage politics mixed in with veil threats and stupid old grey haired men yakking away about the gory of France in the 1640's drives me over the bend....

This has got to be one of the silliest statement on Quebec nationalists/seperatists. France abandoned its colony. It just didn't consider it worth fighting for. French Canadians were actually forced to develop their own national identity much before English Canadians. Heck, you guys are still yackin' about the Queen for God's sake! You've got a really doubtful perspective of history if you think that 250 years after the conquest, French Canadians are still attached to and glorifying France.
 
Vicious
#100
Two separate and distinct thoughts:

If Quebec wishes to leave they should leave with what the territory they brought in
http://www.collectionscanada.ca/conf...-2101.5-e.html

And I can't think of anything Quebec would gain by leaving.
 
Logic 7
#101
Quote: Originally Posted by DurkaDurka View Post

Economy? Care to elaborate on that?



First of all, it is a well known fact that there is more money from the taxe payer from quebec that goes out than in, quebec is 4th economically speaking in canada, and it is not the truth that coorporation will leave quebec, because they are separated, peoples who wants to make money doenst give a damn about those who want to be seperated or not, all they want is money, period.


However, knowing how anglo-saxon are, especially these days, they would probably invented an alqueada cell in quebec, to invade them and occupied them, to get canada back together.Knowing how are CSIS, GRC and CIA, that is just a common sense thinking.
 
the caracal kid
#102
Perhaps the question is not "should quebec leave canada" but "should canada cease"?
 
Sassylassie
#103
Yes of course end Canada and we'll all become Francos? Not. Logic Quebec sucks more money up via transfer payments than it puts into the Federal Pot, in fact Canadians are bending over and taking it up the Tax Bum visa vie Bilinualism. Quebec is no more "Special" than any other province, if fact I've seen a culture more distinct in NFL and Cape Bretain than in Quebec. They think they are "Special" but they aren't.
 
Hotshot
#104
Let Quebec go if they are stupid enough. They need Canada, Canada doesn't need them. If they go they will end up being the 51st State.
 
the caracal kid
#105
So let the distinct cultures of the East go free and flourish (or flop), along with those of central and western canada.

The "country of two nations" is not congruous with the "multicultural tapestry of canada".

So, accept canada is a failed experiment and disolve her. The alternative is to expect one "culture" to surrender their special status, which is not going to happen so long as the other "founding culture" gets to keep its.
 
Hotshot
#106
No, Canada wouldn't be a failed experiment, there was no experiment here. Quebec expects to be treated differently than the rest of Canada, if they don't get their way and start whining the rest of Canada doesn't have to back down. If they threaten to leave, by all means let them go. No harm to the rest of Canada. Let Quebec have their own currency, postage stamps, passport, etc. Let they join France, US or whoever. Who cares??

This has been beaten to death.
 
I think not
#107
If Logic7 is a representation of the Quebec population, I'm surprised you're not kicking them out.
 
Sassylassie
#108
Choke, that was funny ITN. Now I've got to run and clean my keyboard and monitor. LOL.
 
Dalreg
#109
Never thought about that. Maybe we should kick them out. No more whining!
 
DurkaDurka
No Party Affiliation
#110
Quote: Originally Posted by Logic 7 View Post

First of all, it is a well known fact that there is more money from the taxe payer from quebec that goes out than in, quebec is 4th economically speaking in canada, and it is not the truth that coorporation will leave quebec, because they are separated, peoples who wants to make money doenst give a damn about those who want to be seperated or not, all they want is money, period.


However, knowing how anglo-saxon are, especially these days, they would probably invented an alqueada cell in quebec, to invade them and occupied them, to get canada back together.Knowing how are CSIS, GRC and CIA, that is just a common sense thinking.

Youy haven't the slightest clue of anything, you are a disgrace to Quebec and Canada.
 
ottawabill
#111
Logic:

get your facts before you post, the only two provinces that pay in more to the pot then take out are Ontario and Alberta...(Sask & B.C are close to becoming have provinces but not their yet)..

I don't care if we have a Queen, but it is Quebec that runs to France looking for support during separation matters. It is France that comes out publicly in support of Quebec's nation building.

Sassy:

Damn right....Newfoundland and Cape Breton are Canada's society with cultural differences!! My Mom is a newfie and I do spend time on the East Coast..travel across Quebec to get there... Quebec feels like New England with French while Newfoundland is completely different then anywhere else in North America..Hell my wife can understand Quebecers better with her broken French then she can my Newfie relitives with their English ha!
 
Logic 7
#112
Quote: Originally Posted by Sassylassie View Post

Yes of course end Canada and we'll all become Francos? Not. Logic Quebec sucks more money up via transfer payments than it puts into the Federal Pot, in fact Canadians are bending over and taking it up the Tax Bum visa vie Bilinualism. Quebec is no more "Special" than any other province, if fact I've seen a culture more distinct in NFL and Cape Bretain than in Quebec. They think they are "Special" but they aren't.


They speak a complete different language, they have a total different culture, when montreal was protesting against the war in iraq, people in the rest of canada, put american/brits flag on their cars, they are not ready to kill the entire planet for their own little security, so yes they are different.


It is a hard fact, that more money that goes out of quebec than in, get inform, just like get inform on muslim, get inform in general, period.
 
Logic 7
#113
Quote: Originally Posted by ottawabill View Post

Logic:

get your facts before you post, the only two provinces that pay in more to the pot then take out are Ontario and Alberta...(Sask & B.C are close to becoming have provinces but not their yet)..

I don't care if we have a Queen, but it is Quebec that runs to France looking for support during separation matters. It is France that comes out publicly in support of Quebec's nation building.

Sassy:

Damn right....Newfoundland and Cape Breton are Canada's society with cultural differences!! My Mom is a newfie and I do spend time on the East Coast..travel across Quebec to get there... Quebec feels like New England with French while Newfoundland is completely different then anywhere else in North America..Hell my wife can understand Quebecers better with her broken French then she can my Newfie relitives with their English ha!



Get yours straight, quebec is the only provincy in canada, where there is 2 different taxes, exactly you guys have the queen, that is enought to get a laught at.

And by the way, the queen will never go to quebec, cause she knows how quebec hates them, and damn that is for a good cause.
 
ottawabill
#114
Quote: Originally Posted by Logic 7 View Post

Get yours straight, quebec is the only provincy in canada, where there is 2 different taxes, exactly you guys have the queen, that is enought to get a laught at.

And by the way, the queen will never go to quebec, cause she knows how quebec hates them, and damn that is for a good cause.

what are you talking about???

2 different taxes??? do you mean provincial and Federal? if thats the case all provinces have that,,if not then please explain...

I sorry but it's not you guys that have a Queen it is Quebec as well..and for the record I don't like having a Queen anymore then you likely do!
 
Sassylassie
#115
Logic wrote: They speak a complete different language, they have a total different culture, when montreal was protesting against the war in iraq, people in the rest of canada, put american/brits flag on their cars, they are not ready to kill the entire planet for their own little security, so yes they are different.


LOL you have to kidding, have you been to NFL or Cape Bretain? I didn't think so. Gaelic is still spoken and taught in Cape Bretain, so is Acadian French logic. Did they need a law passed to say they were "Special, I said that with a lisp" no they have kept their culture alive out of pride and history not by Extra Special Funds from the Feds like Quebec. NewFoundland has retained it's "Language" and it's a cross between Irish/Gaelic and English and it's harder to understand than French and twice as charming. NFL's populace has managed to hang on to their history and customs in "Spite" of the Feds screwing with it. Quebc is blasse, French is a dying language Logic, the only place it's used in Aviation is France-check out their incident rates regarding Air Incidents.

Logic Irag isn't an Entire Planet mon enfant it's a wee small country. Logic read a paper, a book get educated for you own sake.

Regarding American flags and British ones, damn straight I've got both on my fence and I wave them proudly. I love the Queen, and she's not my Queen she's Canada's Queen Logic you are stuck with her.
 
ottawabill
#116
As long as we don't have to have Prince floppy ears after she dies.....

Logic..your online...google you thoughts and get facts before you write....you are so far off on some much...the so called rest of Canada is no where as homogenuos as the Quebec press make them out to be... There is no English Canada, there is many people from many backgrounds that make up this country not just 2!!

Sassie...Your so right. Newfoundland is wonderful and very different without one ounce of money from the dept of Newfoundland society preservation fund!!
 
BigBen
#117
Yes.
 
rmk1234
#118
Im from Ontario... for the last twenty years I bought into this BS about how bad it would be if Quebec seperated from Canada ... Its a lie and a diversion. We have spent too much time and money talking about this issue and spending bribe money in quebec to keep Canada together.

I just spent the summer working on bookeeping for my business..... there is way too much government... too many rules ... too many government employees... too many BS government programs....

Keep it simple.. deliver health care and other essential services and thats it....

We have more government than we can all afford. Either amalgamate it all or its time to seerate and get rid of a few levels cause all they are doing is wasting all of our time and money.
 
sine000
#119
QUEBEC will always be part of CANADA
 
Zzarchov
#120
The repeated mention of "law" in regards to seperating is hysterical.

When a nation seperates, law has nothing to do with it. I don't recall there being a Law for America to seperate, I don't recall at French law saying England could invade New France (Quebec) I don't recall a law saying the Riel Rebellions could take place. And in modern context:

I don't recall a law saying Kosovo could seperate, etc etc

Laws don't mean jack once you get to the point of seperation.
 

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