Ontario PCs are really screwing up badly


mentalfloss
#1
Already a billion times worse than the Liberals - and that was a pretty low bar to begin with.


Lisa MacLeod Skewered For ‘Tone-Deaf’ Tweet In Wake Of Toronto Flash Floods

An Ontario cabinet minister picked the wrong time to troll her rivals about Toronto.

Lisa MacLeod, the minister of children, community, and social services, has sparked plenty of headlines lately by publicly jostling with the federal government over the costs of housing asylum seekers and scrapping the province's basic income pilot project.

Early Wednesday morning, MacLeod took to Twitter to poke fun at Opposition New Democrats who are raising alarms over the Progressive Conservative government's plan to dramatically slash the number of Toronto city councillors.

"Still can't find the chaos in Toronto the NDP is claiming," she wrote, with a photo of the city. "Beautiful morning in the Provincial capital."

The tweet was immediately panned as tone deaf given how torrential rains Tuesday night spurred flash flooding that caused plenty of chaos for Torontonians.

Some responded by sharing news stories, including a terrifying tale of two men who nearly died trapped in a flooded elevator.

Others shared their own dramatic stories and videos.

Some shared tweets from Toronto Police Services and the chief of Toronto Fire Services who said that, over a 12-hour period, crews responded to 714 separate emergency calls.

And Liberal MP Adam Vaughan, who represents the Toronto riding of Trinity-Spadina, blasted the remark as "oblivious," while taking a dig at the Progressive Conservative government's buck-a-beer plan.

https://m.huffingtonpost.ca/amp/2018...et_a_23498396/
 
petros
+3
#2
Is this the first time it's rained in downtown Toronto?
 
Walter
+2 / -1
#3
Why hasn’t Toronto improved its infrastructure, it floods the low lying areas every time it rains.
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
-1
#4
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Why hasn’t Toronto improved its infrastructure, it floods the low lying areas every time it rains.

...because a mountain of previously Provincial expenditures (such as housing for the poor) was downloaded on the City during the Harris years. Toronto has no power of taxation besides user fees and property taxes. The latter are too politically unpopular to raise, despite Toronto having (by far) the lowest Mill Rate of the GTA. More responsibilities to a rapidly growing population with no new revenues coming in ...
 
petros
+4
#5  Top Rated Post
Lifts in underpasses aren't as important as whirlygigs.
Last edited by petros; Aug 8th, 2018 at 02:45 PM..
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
-1
#6
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Is this the first time it's rained in downtown Toronto?

Hey, Ckem. Picture,if tpyou can, an urban areas that adds a million new residents every decade and what kind of money it requires just to stay even.

You can't, can you? All you see is empty prairie, eh?
 
MHz
+1
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Why hasn’t Toronto improved its infrastructure, it floods the low lying areas every time it rains.

Water isn't going to change the way it does things so unless the city wants to move to higher ground the short term solution is to fill in the areas subject to said flooding and insert the needed pipes and ditching to have it flow away in an orderly manner. Dig up all parks and school grounds to the depth of 50 ft and let that collect the flood water the storm drains can't handle and it releases it back into the storm drains as as flow rate gets less demanding.


If you can't control rain-water how do you get qualified to be making up rules that people have to follow while the elite get to use a few loop-holes that exempts them from having to follow the same rules?


Old cities were built next to the water, today we have the ability to pump the water uphill so the flood prone areas should have been abandoned 100 years ago or so. They are an anchor around the necks of the residents rather than being a nation treasure that has to be preserved at all costs. Now it can't be done because it would be 'too expensive'. Always and excuse for why something can't be done and never about something being completed on time and on budget. We would be better off paying the brass to just stay in bed as they just end up making things worse when they are up and about.
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
#8
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

Water isn't going to change the way it does things so unless the city wants to move to higher ground the short term solution is to fill in the areas subject to said flooding and insert the needed pipes and ditching to have it flow away in an orderly manner. Dig up all parks and school grounds to the depth of 50 ft and let that collect the flood water the storm drains can't handle and it releases it back into the storm drains as as flow rate gets less demanding.


If you can't control rain-water how do you get qualified to be making up rules that people have to follow while the elite get to use a few loop-holes that exempts them from having to follow the same rules?


Old cities were built next to the water, today we have the ability to pump the water uphill so the flood prone areas should have been abandoned 100 years ago or so. They are an anchor around the necks of the residents rather than being a nation treasure that has to be preserved at all costs. Now it can't be done because it would be 'too expensive'. Always and excuse for why something can't be done and never about something being completed on time and on budget. We would be better off paying the brass to just stay in bed as they just end up making things worse when they are up and about.

They got no money for that.
 
MHz
+1
#9
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Hey, Ckem. Picture,if tpyou can, an urban areas that adds a million new residents every decade and what kind of money it requires just to stay even.

You can't, can you? All you see is empty prairie, eh?

Recovery from the same disaster year after year rather than fixing it once and for all time is not the road to success in the future as all things would need repairs all at the same time. Spend big at the start and a solid plan needs little or no maintenance fees in the distant future. The areas subject to flooding along the river would be landscaped to handle extra dry years as well as years will a lot of rain water in short periods of time. If sadness crops up take a few pictures.


The Prairies are small compared to the empty space between your ears.

Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

They got no money for that.

They used all their money on a disaster that shows up year after year after year. Making the same mistake time after time after time is not a 'solution', short term or long term. You only have to dig a hole once.
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
-1
#10
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

Recovery from the same disaster year after year rather than fixing it once and for all time is not the road to success in the future as all things would need repairs all at the same time. Spend big at the start and a solid plan needs little or no maintenance fees in the distant future. The areas subject to flooding along the river would be landscaped to handle extra dry years as well as years will a lot of rain water in short periods of time. If sadness crops up take a few pictures.


The Prairies are small compared to the empty space between your ears.


They used all their money on a disaster that shows up year after year after year. Making the same mistake time after time after time is not a 'solution', short term or long term. You only have to dig a hole once.

Yeah, one huge one was agreeing to build a new LRT line then having a bully mayor and his fatcat brother come along and demand that it has to be a subway line, instead, thus quadrupling the price. How to piss away billions with stupid, eh?
 
petros
+1
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

...because a mountain of previously Provincial expenditures (such as housing for the poor) was downloaded on the City during the Harris years. Toronto has no power of taxation besides user fees and property taxes. The latter are too politically unpopular to raise, despite Toronto having (by far) the lowest Mill Rate of the GTA. More responsibilities to a rapidly growing population with no new revenues coming in ...

Plenty of Municipalities have taxation beyond property tax.
 
Walter
+1
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

...because a mountain of previously Provincial expenditures (such as housing for the poor) was downloaded on the City during the Harris years. Toronto has no power of taxation besides user fees and property taxes. The latter are too politically unpopular to raise, despite Toronto having (by far) the lowest Mill Rate of the GTA. More responsibilities to a rapidly growing population with no new revenues coming in ...

Toronto’s property taxes are ludicrously low, ask anyone who lives north of Steeles Avenue.
 
petros
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Hey, Ckem. Picture,if tpyou can, an urban areas that adds a million new residents every decade and what kind of money it requires just to stay even.

You can't, can you? All you see is empty prairie, eh?

What's that in English?
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
-1
#14
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

what's that in english?

вы должны съесть задние концы воды буйвола, сенокосил.

Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Toronto’s property taxes are ludicrously low, ask anyone who lives north of Steeles Avenue.

Ask anyone who lives in Oakville! Toronto is the poor beggar in the middle with the thriving 905 belt around it.
 
JamesBondo
+3
#15
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

Already a billion times worse than the Liberals - and that was a pretty low bar to begin with.


Lisa MacLeod Skewered For ‘Tone-Deaf’ Tweet In Wake Of Toronto Flash Floods

An Ontario cabinet minister picked the wrong time to troll her rivals about Toronto.

Lisa MacLeod, the minister of children, community, and social services, has sparked plenty of headlines lately by publicly jostling with the federal government over the costs of housing asylum seekers and scrapping the province's basic income pilot project.

Early Wednesday morning, MacLeod took to Twitter to poke fun at Opposition New Democrats who are raising alarms over the Progressive Conservative government's plan to dramatically slash the number of Toronto city councillors.

"Still can't find the chaos in Toronto the NDP is claiming," she wrote, with a photo of the city. "Beautiful morning in the Provincial capital."

The tweet was immediately panned as tone deaf given how torrential rains Tuesday night spurred flash flooding that caused plenty of chaos for Torontonians.

Some responded by sharing news stories, including a terrifying tale of two men who nearly died trapped in a flooded elevator.

Others shared their own dramatic stories and videos.

Some shared tweets from Toronto Police Services and the chief of Toronto Fire Services who said that, over a 12-hour period, crews responded to 714 separate emergency calls.

And Liberal MP Adam Vaughan, who represents the Toronto riding of Trinity-Spadina, blasted the remark as "oblivious," while taking a dig at the Progressive Conservative government's buck-a-beer plan.

https://m.huffingtonpost.ca/amp/2018...et_a_23498396/

you sure do like to talk like a moron
 
mentalfloss
#16
You just can't handle the truth.
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

You just can't handle the truth.

He can't handle much.
 
JamesBondo
+2
#18
lol you think you are an internet legend but you really are just an asshat
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
#19
Quote: Originally Posted by JamesBondo View Post

lol you think you are an internet legend but you really are just an asshat

See what I mean.

Snowflake.
 
JamesBondo
#20
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

See what I mean.

Snowflake.

religious nut job
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
#21
Quote: Originally Posted by JamesBondo View Post

religious nut job

Hmmm. You don't know me that well.

I get it. You come from a simpler world.
 
JamesBondo
+1
#22
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Hmmm. You don't know me that well.

I get it. You come from a simpler world.


I only know you from your posts. you are a moron.
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by JamesBondo View Post

I only know you from your posts. you are a moron.

You are very young and inexperienced. I know that from your posts.
 
mentalfloss
#24
Quote: Originally Posted by JamesBondo View Post

lol you think you are an internet legend but you really are just an asshat

 
petros
#25
Are you going to be okay?
 
mentalfloss
#26
Do you need a hug?
 
JamesBondo
#27
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

You are very young and inexperienced. I know that from your posts.

LOL even young and inexperienced people see you as a moron.
 
mentalfloss
#28
What an angry millennial you are.
 
JamesBondo
+1
#29
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

Already a billion times worse than the Liberals...

Just how many people do you think you have convinced?
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
+3
#30
The new flooded TTC infrastructure is Liberal infrastructure. Poorly designed with the contracts going to Liberal favourites no doubt.
 

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