Canada’s GDP growth soars to 2.9% in second quarter – exports hit 4-year record

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My Grandkids will be thanking Scheer for righting the ship

When you use a winky does that indicate you have said something especially clever?
Do you enjoy deflecting when you are wronge?
Because when the majority of people like you that means you aren't popular
Huh? what you talkin about Willis?
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Huh? what you talkin about Willis?

If you ignore him, he will eventually cry.
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Huh? what you talkin about Willis?

Does he think he's Yoda?
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Because when the majority of people like you that means you aren't popular

Are you confessing that nobody likes you??

Show your posts to your shrink, unless you are one then your mom or a hooker will do, then follow their advice.
Bank of Canada expected to keep rates on hold, but reasons for a hike 'solid'


The Bank of Canada is widely expected to keep interest rates on hold in its monetary policy decision on Wednesday, with many expecting the central bank to sit on the sidelines a bit longer as trade negotiations between Canada and the U.S. continue.
The odds of an interest rate hike tomorrow are below 10 per cent, according to trading in investments known as overnight index swaps. But, those odds jump to more than 80 per cent for a rate hike next month.
While many economists think that last week's second quarter GDP miss may be enough for the central bank to stand pat for now — after hiking rates for the fourth time in a year in July — not all are convinced that they should wait.
Derek Holt, head of capital market economics at Scotiabank, said the Bank of Canada has plenty of reasons for a hike this time around.
"Our longstanding house call for a hike tomorrow is admittedly marked by modest conviction, but there, nevertheless, remains a very solid case for continuing to hike and the risk of surprise should be higher than markets are demonstrating," Holt said in a note on Tuesday.


Holt points out that second quarter growth of 2.9 per cent may have slightly been below market consensus of a 3.1 per cent rise, but it was still above the 2.8 per cent that the central bank was forecasting.
"There may not be as good a chance to hike in October or December if growth moderates and so, the case for waiting may be weaker than the case for acting now while continuing to emphasize future data dependency," Holt said.
Bank of Canada governor Stephen Poloz has reiterated time and again that the central bank is trying to base its interest rate decisions on economic data.

Holt added that if the case for leaving interest rates unchanged rests on NAFTA uncertainty, then that's a weak reason in his view.
"NAFTA risks will remain well into 2019 even in a best case scenario as negotiations then move toward debate within legislative assemblies and the need to pass any agreement in all three countries," Holt said. "Monetary policy cannot be put on hold until NAFTA risks are resolved.
"Poloz has been clear that he will consider NAFTA risks only as they impact data and there isn't much if any evidence of this so far," he added.

Debt to keep bank 'patient'

But Benjamin Reitzes, Canadian rates and macro strategist at BMO Capital Markets, said the central bank is still focusing on issues such as how households with high debt are coping with rising rates, even though the data so far suggests that higher rates have been manageable.
"The slowing housing market and new mortgage rules have caused debt growth to decelerate, but it's going to take time to work off debt burdens and bring debt ratios down," Reitzes said.
"Barring a big burst of sustainable income growth, elevated debt burdens will keep the bank patient."
Mortgage borrowing fell to the lowest since 2014 in the first quarter of this year as the introduction of new lending rules and rising interest rates started to have an impact.
Meanwhile, Karl Schamotta, director of market strategy at Cambridge Global Payments said the resumption of trade negotiations between Canada and U.S. on the same day as the interest rate decision is enough to "introduce an element of downside risk when the central bank releases its statement."
The Bank of Canada is set to make its policy announcement at 10 a.m. on Wednesday.

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Debt to GDP is what's important

... Like in Ontario, the world's largest sub-sovereign debtor.

... Good times in Ontario, right Flosster?

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Yup. She must have broken his heart. Poor guy.

Leave it to Flossy to pine-for a gay woman and fall into a deep bout of eco-grief when she doesn't switch teams for him
Canada's economy set to slow down even if there is a NAFTA deal, say economists


So much has been said about the importance of a trade deal with the U.S. for the Canadian economy, as officials from both sides of the border continue to try to hash out a new agreement.
But, even if a new NAFTA deal is reached, it will not prevent the Canadian economy from slowing down from the robust growth we've seen recently.
Royce Mendes, senior economist at CIBC Capital Markets, forecasts that gross domestic product (GDP) will fall to 1.8 per cent growth next year, and then slow down to only 1.3 per cent growth the year after that, in 2020.
That compares to an expected two per cent growth this year, according to the Bank of Canada. The economy grew a strong three per cent last year.
"Our research finds that even with a NAFTA deal in place, the long-desired rotation in growth towards exports and business investment will be sluggish and won't offset the coming slowdown in household spending and housing activity," Mendes said in a note on Thursday.
Rising interest interest rates will hold consumers back from spending and make housing affordability even more costly, he said.
"As we've stated before though, that doesn't mean higher interest rates will break consumers' backs . With the unemployment rate expected to hover around six per cent over the next couple of years, households, in general, should be able to service their debt loads," Mendes said. "It will, however, leave fewer dollars for discretionary purchases."
The Bank of Canada is widely expected to raise interest rates for a fifth time next month since it began its hiking cycle in July of last year.

Export surge a 'flash in the pan'

Added to that, Mendes said new headwinds such as the U.S. becoming much more aggressive in imposing tariffs on Canadian exports with the current NAFTA deal still in place is a red flag for capital investment in Canada.
"Without healthy business investment, we also can't expect exports to become an engine for economic growth," Mendes said. "Last quarter's export surge was nothing more than a flash in the pan, in part due to U.S. buyers front running their own country's tariffs."
Government data last week showed that the economy grew a solid 2.9 per cent in the second quarter this year thanks to exports, which surged to their biggest increase in four years.
Sal Guatieri, senior economist at BMO Capital Markets, is also expecting growth next year to slow to 1.8 per cent, adding that both consumer spending and housing activity will weigh on growth.
But, he is forecasting a higher number than Mendes for 2020 at 1.6 per cent.
"A NAFTA deal is assumed in our base case forecast. It could raise investment and support growth somewhat," Guatieri said.
RBC senior economist Nathan Janzen said the bank doesn't publish forecasts for 2020, but agrees that growth is shifting lower.
Economists at TD Bank, meanwhile, said they were in the process of updating their growth forecasts, but think growth will likely be a bit higher than what CIBC is suggesting.
"We do expect a more modest pace of consumer spending going forward, and while housing activity should remain a contributor to growth, this sector as well should see more modest growth relative to the past," said Brian DePratto, senior economist at TD Bank.
In terms of NAFTA though, Depratto pointed out that while a resolution should be positive for Canada, it's more important to remember that the outcome is less about "adding markedly to the economy, and more about preserving the gains that were already there."

What happened we are back on the Petro dollar our dollar is worth $0.07 without Oil Lol

Loonie helped as crude oil hits two-month high


TORONTO - The Canadian dollar was pushed to its highest level in September on Wednesday after crude oil prices hit a two-month peak.
The November crude contract was up $1.18 to US$70.77 per barrel, just short of a high set July 13.
The Canadian dollar traded at an average of 77.24 cents US compared with an average of 76.97 cents US on Tuesday.
The loonie started the day lower on NAFTA uncertainty but recovered following an inventory report showed another sizable draw in crude stockpiles, says Candice Bangsund, portfolio manager for Fiera Capital.
She said crude prices rose on the report that said U.S. refinery demand was strong amid increasing global economic growth.
"You're seeing supplies being reduced and of course on top of that you have some geopolitical uncertainty supporting prices," she said referring to the potential for supply disruptions from Iran and the hurricane that struck North Carolina.
Fiera has a mid-$70s target for oil and an 83 cents US target for the Canadian dollar.
She said the march up to these levels in the coming months depend on how things develop on the trade front. The optimistic outlook would be undermined by a breakdown in NAFTA negotiations or a full-blown trade war between the U.S. and China.
But Bangsund says her base case doesn't include those eventualities.
Canada's main stock index decreased Wednesday.
The S&P/TSX composite index lost 46.12 points to 16,149.92, its low point for the day.
The market was pulled down by the health-care sector, telecom and industrials, while metals and gold both gained almost 1.5 per cent.
Health care dropped 3.1 per cent on lower prices for cannabis companies Aphria Inc. and Canopy Growth Corp.
In New York, the Dow Jones industrial average gained 158.80 to 26,405.76. The S&P 500 index was up 3.64 points to 2,907.95, while the Nasdaq composite was down 6.07 points to 7,950.04.
Bangsund said the improved investor sentiment has spurred an appetite for risk that allowed equities outperform fixed income investments.
"With little in the way of any notable economic or central bank developments, it seems that investors are reverting their focus back to trade developments and while we have seen a fresh round of tariffs between the U.S. and China, the response from China has been much more muted than the market were expecting," she said.
The October natural gas contract was down 2.5 cents at US$2.91 per mmBTU.
The December gold contract was up US$5.40 at US$1,208.30 an ounce and the December copper contract was down 0.1 of a cent at US$2.73 a pound.


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