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Gilgamesh
+1
#181
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Flosshole is a closet Dipper but won't bring it up in public.

I guess he is ashamed?

Probably true, and if we want to see NDipper (socialist) programs and policies in action, Venezuela & Nicaragua point the way.
 
Hoid
#182
as do public schools.
 
spilledthebeer
#183
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

as do public schools.


Oh Hoid- why stop at just whining about our socialist school system?



There are PLENTY of other LIE-beral screw ups to look at!!!!!


Consider:



Here is an article illustrating how badly public housing is being run by the over privileged Hogs of Toronto civil service. With some comments of my own in brackets):

TCHC board gobsmacked over ombudsman report

By Sue-Ann Levy. Published: February 23, 2018. Updated:
February 24, 2018 9:07 AM EST

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ News/ Toronto & GTA

After making noises that they’d been kept in the dark about the issue, the Toronto Community Housing Corporation board woke up to the fact Friday that they have serious problems with the way their endangered tenants are treated.

On the agenda of the monthly meeting was a thorough and scathing 65-page report by new city Ombudslady Susan Opler- (a breath of fresh air compared to her predecessor, the very political and publicity conscious Fiona Crean- on what she called the “broken” and downright arbitrary internal transfer system within Canada’s largest housing authority.

TCHC is giving tenants false hope
Susan Opler, Toronto's ombudsman

For the purposes of her report, Opler focussed on “priority transfers” made for safety and security — in this case when a tenant fears for his or her life due to crime in the building — or for medical reasons.

(TCHC has a serious and ongoing problem with criminals living in their facilities- doing drug seals, threatening and robbing elderly tenants, dealing in prostitution etc. The solutions are relatively simple: separate the elderly from the young and potentially dangerous in different buildings and make greater efforts to evict trouble makers! But establishing buildings only for old folks have not been done though it was supposed to have started over a year ago! And evicting thugs apparently violates the “mission statement” of TCHC which sees no reason to throw people out just because they are dangerous criminals- rather like the LIE-beral refusal to deport convicted Muslim terrorists! It’s a madly twisted LIE-beral value system that forces frightened TCHC tenants to put up with insane crap!!)

Opler’s report was prompted by the cases of two tenants.

One was a young mother who had applied for a “priority transfer” — and was denied twice — after witnessing a violent crime outside her home, escaping to a shelter and coming back to find a loaded gun in her child’s dresser drawer.

The second complaint, she said, came from a family, also denied a transfer, after two shots were fired into their livingroom and their teenagers were assaulted enroute home from school.

Opler, who came to the city one-and-a-half years ago, minced no words that the transfer process is a mess — noting that tenants receive “vastly different amounts of help” applying for a transfer, the requirements for a transfer are “unclear” and the decisions “inconsistent and contradictory.”

“The criteria were being applied arbitrarily,” she said, emphasizing that decisions for denial of an application were often inadequate and in some cases “completely absent.”

But the most damning finding is the lengthy priority transfer waiting list comprised of 1,413 tenants, 76% of whom have been on the list for two years or more and a shocking 55% who’ve waited for a transfer for more than five years.

“We see that as a waiting list that is bloated and stagnant,” Opler said, noting, quite rightly, that the priority transfer list is no such thing.

“TCHC is giving tenants false hope,” she added.

(LIE-berals are well aware that the entire system of so called affordable housing is nothing of the sort and TCHC has now degenerated into the biggest slum lord in North America! With no way to repair the endless mess thanks to idiot spending priorities by the bloated and paralysed Toronto City Council- Ford is right to cut their numbers drastically and swiftly!)

Most board members seemed taken aback with the report and claimed they were the “last to know” about its disturbing findings, even though the report also went to city council earlier this month.

“We need to treat tenants fairly and consistently,” said board chairman Kevin Marshman.

(Of course city councillors are “the last to know” since they HIDE from such reports! They have spent so much money buying civil service union Hog support there is nothing left for practical matters like repairing infrastructure!)

Well yes, I’ve been writing about this concept for years, along with the fact that, in my view, there are TCHC staff who either simply don’t really care about the tenants they are mandated to serve, or worse, abuse their power.

Another boss exits scandal-plagued TCHC
LEVY: Same issues, different day at TCHC
LEVY: The $369M-plus social housing disgrace
LEVY: Where’s the oversight for TCHC repairs?

(Toronto municipal employees are well aware just how broekn the system is- and they are also aware of what a MASSIVE BATTLE will be required to fix or change any problem facing the city- not just with affordable housing! This is the face of bankruptcy- where NOTHING can be done!)

The issue with “priority transfers,” I believe, although serious considering safety is in question, is just the tip of the iceberg with so many other problems- mishandled or ignored- at the beleaguered housing authority.

(There would of course be less need for transfers to protect witnesses to crimes if thugs were evicted and less crime occurred and this problem can also be laid at the feet of federal LIE-berals whose hug a thug judges practice that absurd “catch and release insanity while offering up so many excuses for the vile behaviour of thugs!)

For instance, new CEO Kathy Milsom mentioned that getting a handle on crime- drug dealers one hopes- is a huge priority considering they house 4% of the city’s population but account for 25% of the violent crimes in the city.

Police cruisers at a TCHC building in North York on Oct 29, following a murder at the complex.

Opler concluded that the transfer process needs to be completely overhauled — suggesting that TCHC not continue to add to the current list and instead create a new category called “crisis” transfers, which can and should be given the utmost priority.

(Considering the crime rate in an around TCHC properties- there seems little reason to obsess over safety transfers as it does little except move people from one mess into another! It seems like we should be admitting that LIE-berals have so hamstrung our cops and so paralysed our legal system with their vile plea bargaining that turns major crime into minor offenses that crime in Toronto is pretty much out of control!)

She said Milsom has agreed to create such a list by June 30.

Milsom acknowledged the transfer process is clearly not working and told the board she’s committed to improving it along with properly defining what a crisis means for the purposes of transferring those who truly are a priority.

(Yeah, yeah- its all just paperwork and propaganda and will be FORGOTTEN before the October 2018 election anyway!)
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#184
Campaign issues expected to dominate Liberal cabinet retreat


Quote:

OTTAWA — Justin Trudeau will huddle with his cabinet ministers this week to craft the political narrative they will take to Canadians ahead of next year’s federal election.
But the reality is that heading into an election year, the Liberals face political risks beyond their control — the uptick in asylum seekers coming across the border, a tempestuous president in the White House and emerging opposition in key provincial capitals.
How governments handle events not of their making often shapes their mandate and determines their success. In this case, the outside forces exerting pressure on Trudeau’s Liberals are huge and so are their potential impacts on defining issues like trade and climate policy.
With a federal election now just over a year away, the wedge issues that could define the campaign are taking shape: the environment and carbon pricing; refugees, immigration and broader issues of diversity.
Wednesday’s gathering will be the first cabinet meeting since Trudeau shuffled his ministerial lineup in July, moving some politicians to new portfolios and bringing in several new faces to better grapple with the political challenges now facing his government.
The appointment of former Toronto police chief Bill Blair as minister of border security and organized crime reduction signalled the government’s intention to make “border integrity and security a top priority,” Trudeau said on the day of the shuffle.
The asylum seekers entering Canada from the United States has become a political flashpoint, with opposition Conservatives, Quebec and Ontario and municipal leaders in Montreal and Toronto all clamouring for federal action on the file.

 
spilledthebeer
+1
#185

Yeah- I am very sure LIE-berals will have much to talk about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


They need a whole new set of Fake News issues to talk about now that all the propaganda they spewed in 2015 has been exposed as costly failure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Consider:



Natives supported LIE-berals in hope of more gravy- and did not get it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Nor did natives get anything useful from the "Murdered and Missing Indigenous Women" dog and pony show hypocrite LIE-berals put on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The "middle class" meaning civil service Hogs got more gravy and even more taxes so they are turning away from LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The kids who hoped LIE-berals would arrange better jobs for them got told to go back to their McJobs right after LIE-berals got elected!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The environmentalists are horrified that mouldy green energy deals are being dismantled and that carbon crap and trade scams are failing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Environmentalists fear that LIE-berals may not have the courage to completely kill Kinder Morgan pipelines because of the numbe4r of votes LIE-berals would loose as the western economy tanked so Greens and NDPers are likely to steal enviro voters from LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


NOBODY expected Our idiot Boy Justin to trigger a trade war with Yankees over women`s issues!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And nobody expected him to wreck Cdn foreign affairs by taking a convicted terrorist with him on a state visit to India- where the guy had been convicted!!!!!!!!!


Nobody expected that LIE-berals would play so fast and loose with ethics and insider trading of the Bill Morneau sort!!!!!!!!!



The so called Morneau shield is used by at least 4 other LIE-beral MP`s that we know of- and who knows how many others are hiding their details????????????????????



Nobody expected LIE-berals to become the immigration equivalent of crazy cat ladies compulsively rounding up strays from around the world- and then dumping the bills for the care and feeding if illegal "strays" onto other levels of govt!!!!!!!!!!!


Nobody is happy with LIE-beral style criminal justice- the spectacle of LIE-beral hug a thug judges RELEASING SEVEN ACCUSED KILLERS in summer 2017 without trial because LIE-berals said they lacked the resources to try the men in reasonable time sickend many Cdns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The release- of half a dozen fraud artists who collectively STOLE over $50 million dollars in Ontari-owe for the same lack oftrial resources did not sit any batter with Cdns!!!!!!!!!!


The $10.5 million dollar award of blood money to vile terror poster boy Omar Khadr has not helped LIE-beral image!!!!!!!!


The award of $37 million dollars to 3 other accused Jihadist jerks simply added fuel to the bonfire of LIE-beral twisted values!!!!


The Joshua Boyle business were an ex-Mennonite- who was once married to Zaynab Khadr- the sister of terrorist Omar Khadr who later left him in favour of a hard core jihadist who died later in a police shoot out- with Boyle then taking his pregnant second wife on a hiking tour of Taliban held Afghanistan- and eventually coming back to Canada to meet with "his old pal Justin" in a private one on one meeting reeks of utter madness on the part of both Boyle and Our idiot Boy!



One has to wonder on what mad moon Mennonite Boyle and Our idiot Boy silver spoon socialist ever crossed paths? Such a meeting speaks of some weird and unsavoury Trudeau values!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And of course there is the Kokanee Grope with its quite public unsavoury and negative consequences!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And of course Our idiot Boy has been stung by the public mocking his alleged feminist leanings- that disappear if a reporter with a nice ass turns her back on him- with those negative consequences- and so to re-affirm his feminist side- he has picked a fight with what he thought was an easy target: Saudi Arabia and Our idiot Boy got reamed for that piece of ill considered stupidity too!!!!!!!!!!!!



It is clear and conclusive that all LIE-beral policy HAS FAILED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Walter
+2
#186
Trudeau Liberals fall to earth, crushed by pipelines and carbon taxes
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/and...d-carbon-taxes

Still not ready.
 
Hoid
#187
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Trudeau Liberals fall to earth, crushed by pipelines and carbon taxes
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/and...d-carbon-taxes

Still not ready.

no numbers - all talk
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
+2
#188
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Trudeau Liberals fall to earth, crushed by pipelines and carbon taxes
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/and...d-carbon-taxes


A full-on, scathing analysis.


Bad days ahead for tater tot and Climate Barbie
 
mentalfloss
+1
#189
Thy PCs are really stinking it up.

Woof!

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/pol...ions-1.4171977
 
Gilgamesh
#190
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

The confidence of Andrew Scheer

“I think there’s a fine line between confidence and arrogance,” said Andrew Scheer, “and I would by no means presume to tell Canadians what is going to happen.”

But in an interview on Tuesday with Paul Wells—in front of a live audience at the National Arts Centre in Ottawa—Scheer delineated a not-too-distant future in which he is Prime Minister. The day earlier, an Angus Reid opinion poll showed Scheer ahead of Justin Trudeau by 13 percentage points, and his confidence came out in the form of imagination.

He named the first bill he would enact as PM; he defended his support for Brexit by comparing the European Union to a fictional North American equivalent, and he assigned a metaphor to the summer jobs controversy by accusing the Liberals of “peering into the minds of Canadians.”
On the first day of Spring, at his highest personal ratings yet, in a room enclosed by 16 glass window panels and two sets of glass doors, an assured Scheer peered into his glass ball.
“I hope that [Canadians] see in me and my team of shadow ministers and my caucus a government-in-waiting, and I could step in the day after the election and govern this wonderful country,” he said. “When I use language like that, I want to project the idea that I am confident. I believe very firmly that, not only am I capable of doing it, but that my team is capable of doing it and that our policies can work for Canadians.”
Scheer did not flatly rule out working with the NDP after the next election in a minority situation “to try to make Parliament work”.
When reminded that no party has brought down a first-term majority government since R.B. Bennett in 1930 (who was only the second since Confederation after Alexander Mackenzie in 1873), Scheer flipped the logic via his experience as an insurance broker: “when you point out that if it hasn’t happened in a while, my insurance brain tells me we’re due for one.”
To elaborate on his government-in-waiting: “I made a commitment that our first piece of legislation in 2019 when I’m Prime Minister will be an act to repeal the Carbon Tax Act,” he said. “Canadians didn’t vote for a carbon tax. Justin Trudeau campaigned, promised that he wouldn’t create a carbon tax.”
In fact, Trudeau announced his carbon tax plan eight months before the 2015 election. Scheer said he would meanwhile support oil and gas projects like the Northern Gateway pipeline, which would’ve opened up access to Asian markets. And he questioned if Trudeau actually wants to build the pipeline. “All of us lose when we don’t get what we could be getting on the world market because we’re just selling to one spot.”
That “spot” has a U.S. president whose rhetoric could help Scheer come to power, but he refuted the idea that he must cater to Trump supporters in Canada. “The Conservatives win when we have a positive message, an aspirational message,” he said. So will they run attack ads in the next election? “We will run ads that show the contrast between what we are proposing and the effects of the Liberal government.”
To show why he supports Britain leaving the European Union, Scheer sketched a continental union in North America. “You can imagine if part of NAFTA was to have kind of a super-national government maybe anchored in New York, and Mexican and American delegates could pass laws overruling Canadian laws, or to establish a justice system that would strike Canadian laws down or Canadian court decisions down, you can imagine, I don’t think Canadians would’ve signed onto that in 1988.”
Though Scheer argued the economic benefits of Brexit, Wells said, “I admit to remaining a skeptic.”
Among the top questions Maclean’s readers wanted to ask Scheer was why he is working with people associated with Rebel Media, including his campaign director, Hamish Marshall, a former Rebel board member. Scheer replied that the two things should not be conflated. While Scheer made the decision to no longer appear on Rebel Media he added that “I’ll leave it to other people to decide what they want to read or look at.”
Scheer called out the Liberals for policing Canadian values through changes to the federal summer jobs program, which could deny money to organizations with religious affiliations. “What the Liberals have done here is allowed the government to peer into the minds of Canadians to see what goes on up there, what their views are, what their personal opinion is,” Scheer said. “That’s not right. Every country in history that has gone down dark paths, where governments take on too much control and really intervene and take away those freedoms, often start with an attack on the freedom to disagree.”
Scheer said he’s begun campaigning for 2019. His response to another question submitted by a reader, “Convince me you’re not Stephen Harper”: “I’ve got my own style. I’ve got my own approach. I’ve got my own way of handling things,” he said. “Stephen Harper kept our party united … now that chapter’s been closed. Canadians chose something else in 2015. We have the Liberal chapter being written right now, and our job is to make sure that I get to write the next one.”

Scheer is my man.
 
White_Unifier
+1
#191
Sometimes projections can backfire. For example, if a person doesn't want a majority government, is planning on voting for Party A, and then learns that party A might form a majority, that knowledge alone could cause him to change his vote to Party B instead.
 
Gilgamesh
#192
Except that he supports the evil dairy cartel that robs Canuckistanian consumers of billions each year.
 
White_Unifier
#193
Quote: Originally Posted by Gilgamesh View Post

Except that he supports the evil dairy cartel that robs Canuckistanian consumers of billions each year.

Who's 'he?' Trudeau, Scheer, or Singh?
 
Gilgamesh
+1
#194
I was referring to Scheer but all three leaders are in favour of this quasi Communist relic of the past rip off.
 
Hoid
#195
Gee, I wonder why.
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#196
Justin Trudeau's Approval Rating At Lowest Point Since 2015 , Poll Says

Quote:

The wave of popularity Prime Minister Justin Trudeau rode to a majority government in 2015 seems to be at its lowest point yet, a new poll suggests.

Trudeau's approval rating among Canadians is now at its lowest level since he was elected, according to the Angus Reid Institute's latest survey.
The polling firm found that 35 per cent of respondents approve of the PM's performance. That's quite a drop from the 63 per cent rating he received in a similar poll conducted in his first month in office.
Thirty-nine per cent of respondents in the new survey said they "strongly disapprove" of the prime minister, while just eight per cent said they "strongly approve."
The fires of discontent for Trudeau burn brightest in Saskatchewan and Alberta, where a whopping 79 and 78 per cent of respondents, respectively, said they disapprove of the PM.
Atlantic Canada, which the Liberals swept in the 2015 election, showed the most support for the Liberal leader, though almost half of respondents there still gave him a thumbs down.
Trudeau's tension with the west has been growing, with even Alberta Premier Rachel Notley — once seen as a strong ally of the PM — publicly criticizing him for failing to help her province get more oil to overseas markets.
Earlier this month, she even took credit for a stunt that involved a projector beaming a pro-pipeline ad outside a Liberal holiday event in Ottawa.
The controversial Trans Mountain pipeline expansion — which would run from Alberta to coastal B.C. — and the hurdles it continues to face have also fractured Trudeau's political ties with both those provinces. That province's NDP premier, John Horgan, went to court to oppose
And yet Notley isn't the only premier to throw shade on Trudeau's sunny ways. In Ontario, Quebec and New Brunswick, provincial Liberal premiers aligned with Trudeau have been booted out in favour of conservative leaders.
Ontario Premier Doug Ford has emerged as one of Trudeau's most vocal critics, railing against his government's carbon pricing plan and forming a tag team against it with fellow conservative leaders in Saskatchewan, Alberta, Manitoba and New Brunswick.
That carbon pricing plan, his infamous trip to India as well as the marathon NAFTA negotiations — and their less-than-popular end result — also likely contributed to the dip in his approval rating, according to the institute.
The Liberal government's ballooning deficits could also be a factor, as the poll found that 28 per cent of respondents ranked the economy and government spending as the most important issue facing Canada.
Trudeau is also closing the year with a growing spat with China that started after Canadian authorities arrested a high-ranking executive for Huawei Technologies — at the request of the U.S. Two Canadians, one of them a former diplomat, have been detained in that country since.
The polling firm also found that, for the first time since his election, Trudeau is no longer seen as the party leader that would make the best prime minister.
Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer now leads the pack for that question with 33 per cent support, while Trudeau follows with 27 per cent. Support for Green Party Elizabeth May is still slightly stronger than NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh.
Approval and disapproval ratings for Trudeau's rivals are mostly in line with the findings from the question above, except for Singh. Even though he's the newest leader on the scene — and still doesn't have a seat in the House of Commons — Singh received a disapproval rating of 53 per cent . That's second only to Trudeau's 58 per cent.
The Angus Reid Institute's survey was conducted online survey from December 12 – 18, 2018, among a representative randomized sample of 3,239 Canadian adults. For comparison purposes only, a probability sample of this size with this sample plan would carry a margin of error of plus or minus 2.5 percentage points, 19 times out of 20.

Could someone paste the graphs from the article Razor won't let me
 
Hoid
#197
This belongs here too, in case anyone was misled by all these ridiculous claims

Liberals Would Win If The Election Was Held Today, Despite Justin Trudeau's Shockingly Low Approval Ratings


https://www.narcity.com/news/liberal...proval-ratings
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
-1
#198
Scheer's popularity grows by the day, as long as he keeps his mouth shut. It's Trudeau's election to lose. As soon as the right-wing-idealogue yahoos start to spout off, Scheer's advantage will dissolve away.

Canadians are not in that place.
 
spilledthebeer
#199
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Scheer's popularity grows by the day, as long as he keeps his mouth shut. It's Trudeau's election to lose. As soon as the right-wing-idealogue yahoos start to spout off, Scheer's advantage will dissolve away.

Canadians are not in that place.


Way to go there Curious Cdn !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You go boy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Run right out and DISPLAY that LIE-beral contempt for ordinary Cdns for all the world to see!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Here is an article illustrating how lazy and sloppy the civil service union Hogs of Canada Revenue Agency are. With some comments of my own in brackets):

Canadians dodged paying feds up to $3B in taxes on foreign income: CRA

From Canadian Press. Published: June 28, 2018. Updated: June 28, 2018 12:46 PM EDT

Filed Under: Toronto SUN

OTTAWA — A new federal analysis says Canadians dodged paying Ottawa between $800 million and $3 billion worth of taxes on foreign personal income in 2014.

The study by the Canada Revenue Agency says the missing funds represented between 0.6% and 2.2% of the total income tax revenue Ottawa collected that year from individuals.

(CRA has a long documented history of going after low hanging fruit- meaning harassing local Cdns who owe small amounts that are easy to collect- while IGNORING foreigners who owe much larger amounts but are harder and more costly to track down! That Canada has become a haven for money laundering due to sloppy LIE-beral attitudes towards crime of all sorts is NOT HELPING!)

So far, the agency says the federal government collected up to $14.6 billion less than it would have in 2014, had all tax obligations been fully met — and that number is expected to grow as research continues.

(So two years of LIE-beral govt and LIE-berals and their Hog allies now have $14 billion LESS TAX REVENUE from foreigners working and investing in Canada to play with! No wonder LIE-berals WHINE so often about the need for a carbon tax- they are taking the EASY ROAD to grabbing extra gravy for themselves!)

In previous reports, the agency has already released estimates on the so-called tax gap — the difference between what is owed to the government and what was collected — for personal income tax and the federal portion of the GST and HST.

The agency’s next study will focus on domestic and international businesses, a report it says will provide CRA with its first estimate of Canada’s overall tax gap.

(POOR LIE-berals- we are leaking money in a hundred directions! Rent arrears at Toronto Housing Authority is soaring as gang bangers learn how to game the system and pay whatever and whenever they feel like- secure in the knowledge they will NOT be evicted!)

(And there was a report presented to Toronto mayor Jackass John Tory last spring that detailed the millions of dollars in cleaning costs the city IS NOT COLLECTING from tenants at Union Station!)

(Or maybe we should discuss the quickly forgotten- by LIE-beral loving Cdn news media- scandal of the Paradise Papers- that DAMNING DOCUMENT that detailed how the most wealthy and connected Cdns HID their money from the tax collectors of CRA by shipping cash to the discreet bankers of the Carribean! And prominent among the names in the Paradise Papers was chief federal LIE-beral fund raiser Charles Bronfman!)

The latest numbers are being released as Ottawa invests more resources in analyzing and cracking down on tax evasion.

The analysis also found that in 2014, Canadians earned $9 billion in foreign income and held a total of $429 billion worth of assets outside the country — with most of it reported in the United States and the United Kingdom.

(Yes- our dead broke LIE-berals are in such desperate need of new streams of gravy they are now even willing to chase and harass select foreigners- but just NOT foreigners such as Aga Khan! He continues to get his LIE-beral govt grants to be used to promote better relations between Muslims and the rest of the planet! Sounds like a MASSIVE WASTE of resources to me- after all one good radical Muslim murder spree will wipe out a whole lot of feel good Muslim advertising CRAP!)

But hey-Our idiot Boy Justin might need another holiday on the Khan`s private island- so maybe its best for Our idiot Boy to keep the “grants” coming!)
 
Colpy
Conservative
+1
#200
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Scheer's popularity grows by the day, as long as he keeps his mouth shut. It's Trudeau's election to lose. As soon as the right-wing-idealogue yahoos start to spout off, Scheer's advantage will dissolve away.

Canadians are not in that place.


Just watched an interview on CTV's Question Period with Scheer.


He did quite well.


He often does not. He often appears sweaty, and stumbling.


He did well.


Now, the election is Trudeau's to lose.


The question is will Canadians go for flash over substance again this time?


I'm beginning to have my doubts.


Although the Bernier thing sucks........he might only pull 2 or 3 percent, but that migh be enough to elect Trudeau.


And that would be a disaster.


Trudeau has got to go.
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
-1
#201
Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

Just watched an interview on CTV's Question Period with Scheer.
He did quite well.
He often does not. He often appears sweaty, and stumbling.
He did well.
Now, the election is Trudeau's to lose.
The question is will Canadians go for flash over substance again this time?
I'm beginning to have my doubts.
Although the Bernier thing sucks........he might only pull 2 or 3 percent, but that migh be enough to elect Trudeau.
And that would be a disaster.
Trudeau has got to go.

Trudeau has got to go. You don't want Bernier and his ilk around, anyway. The last time a Conservative leader (Mulroney) made treaty with the rural Quebec populists,they stabbed him and Canada in the back. Learn to live without that whacko corner of conservatism.
 
Colpy
Conservative
+4
#202
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Trudeau has got to go. You don't want Bernier and his ilk around, anyway. The last time a Conservative leader (Mulroney) made treaty with the rural Quebec populists,they stabbed him and Canada in the back. Learn to live without that whacko corner of conservatism.


Exactly what "whacko corner of conservatism" do you mean?


And you're right about the Quebecers in Mulroney's gov't, but I would argue Mulroney was conservative in name only.


Which is why we on the right abandoned him for the Reform Party.
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
-1
#203
Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

Exactly what "whacko corner of conservatism" do you mean?
And you're right about the Quebecers in Mulroney's gov't, but I would argue Mulroney was conservative in name only.
Which is why we on the right abandoned him for the Reform Party.

... you on the very, very, very right ...

and you are too far from the center to be elected nationally in this country. Reform was a Western rump and only gained power by attracting the numerous, moderate, centerist vote. There is no appetite for returning to the Stone Age in Canada as there is in the US. That's the body of the party that Scheer has to stifle (as Harper also learned he had to surpress) or permanemt opposition is your fate.

Canada is almost 90% urban. They don't vote Yahoo. Not ever.
 
Dixie Cup
Conservative
+2
#204
I KNOW that I'm going to be crucified for saying this but there really isn't a "right wing" party in Canada that people keep saying there is. I consider myself a Conservative but I don't consider myself "right wing" at all. My beliefs are pretty much centrist, some a "little" left others a "little" right and, I believe, MOST Canadians are the same way. Neither the Liberals or Conservatives were ever "extreme" - not even close.


Now, however, my opinion is that the Conservatives are still where they have always been, center-center right but the Liberals are severely left and have abandoned what they used to represent - the average Canadian taxpayer. They're a more elitist party now and while they talk about supporting the "middle class" they've done more damage to said "middle class" than at any time in recent history. More and more people are losing their well-paying jobs and those who have jobs are being taxed more than ever before and the plan is to continue raising taxes in the future. How dumb is that?


Who is going to vote for increased taxation?


JMHO
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
#205
Quote: Originally Posted by Dixie Cup View Post

I KNOW that I'm going to be crucified for saying this but there really isn't a "right wing" party in Canada that people keep saying there is. I consider myself a Conservative but I don't consider myself "right wing" at all. My beliefs are pretty much centrist, some a "little" left others a "little" right and, I believe, MOST Canadians are the same way. Neither the Liberals or Conservatives were ever "extreme" - not even close.
Now, however, my opinion is that the Conservatives are still where they have always been, center-center right but the Liberals are severely left and have abandoned what they used to represent - the average Canadian taxpayer. They're a more elitist party now and while they talk about supporting the "middle class" they've done more damage to said "middle class" than at any time in recent history. More and more people are losing their well-paying jobs and those who have jobs are being taxed more than ever before and the plan is to continue raising taxes in the future. How dumb is that?
Who is going to vote for increased taxation?
JMHO

I'm on your side, Dixie.

There is a faction in Canada that carries Tea Party Libertarian attitudes and are apparently wannabe Republicans but they represent no more than 15%+- of the population. They can affect local elections but they don't appeal to the broad populace. The Liberals take advantage of them every electoral chance that they get as they keep being associated with the Conservative Party that is mostly not like that.
 
Colpy
Conservative
#206
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

... you on the very, very, very right ...

and you are too far from the center to be elected nationally in this country. Reform was a Western rump and only gained power by attracting the numerous, moderate, centerist vote. There is no appetite for returning to the Stone Age in Canada as there is in the US. That's the body of the party that Scheer has to stifle (as Harper also learned he had to surpress) or permanemt opposition is your fate.

Canada is almost 90% urban. They don't vote Yahoo. Not ever.


This part at least is more or less true..........I'm not in the mainstream of Canadian society.


So.....the question is exactly what is it about liberty that scares you so?


I'll ignore the "Stone Age" jibe, as it is so vacuous as to defy rational reply.


Scheer has to make the party a "Big Tent" entity, and that includes the "right" (although I am not "far right" as you suggest), and yes, he needs to avoid things that will cripple the party.


Democracy, especially in a FPTP system, requires compromise on the part of all voters. Pick the party closest to your view with the most chance of getting elected.


That's the Conservative Party for me.


If I wanted to define every issue in the country, I'd have to become President for Life.
 
Hoid
#207
What on earth does any of that have to do with liberty?

How are the conservatives any more about liberty than the NDP or the Liberals.

That conservatives problem is that they are not a big tent and have never been a big tent.

Look at the french/english divide.

Lots of conservatives in both camps but they hate each other too much to ever unite.

Ford in Ontario is a perfect example.
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
#208
Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

This part at least is more or less true..........I'm not in the mainstream of Canadian society.
So.....the question is exactly what is it about liberty that scares you so?
I'll ignore the "Stone Age" jibe, as it is so vacuous as to defy rational reply.
Scheer has to make the party a "Big Tent" entity, and that includes the "right" (although I am not "far right" as you suggest), and yes, he needs to avoid things that will cripple the party.
Democracy, especially in a FPTP system, requires compromise on the part of all voters. Pick the party closest to your view with the most chance of getting elected.
That's the Conservative Party for me.
If I wanted to define every issue in the country, I'd have to become President for Life.

Hey, maybe you znd the other heavily armed 12% who know what's right and good should show us what you're made of and take Canada over with an armed insurrection. Give yourselves a purpose. You cleary know what is best for the rest of us weaklings.
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
#209
Quote:

rest of us weaklings.


I trust evolution.
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
#210
Quote: Originally Posted by Danbones View Post


I trust evolution.

Well, the knuckle walkers are mostly gone, now except for that residual 12%.
 

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