Man charged after threatening to assassinate Obama


Praxius
#1

Democratic presidential candidate, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., pauses for a moment while speaking at the National Urban League Annual Conference in Orlando, Fla, Saturday, Aug. 2, 2008.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...0807?hub=World

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MIAMI -- A man who authorities said was keeping weapons and military-style gear in his hotel room and car appeared in court Thursday on charges he threatened to assassinate Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.

Raymond Hunter Geisel, 22, was arrested by the Secret Service on Saturday in Miami and was ordered held at Miami's downtown detention centre without bail Thursday by a federal magistrate.

A Secret Service affidavit charges that Geisel made the threat during a training class for bail bondsmen in Miami in late July. According to someone else in the 48-member class, Geisel allegedly referred to Obama with a racial epithet and continued, "If he gets elected, I'll assassinate him myself."

Obama was most recently in Florida on Aug. 1-2 but did not visit the South Florida area.

Another person in the class quoted Geisel as saying that "he hated George W. Bush and that he wanted to put a bullet in the president's head," according to the Secret Service.

Geisel denied in a written statement to a Secret Service agent that he ever made those threats, and the documents don't indicate that he ever took steps to carry out any assassination. He was charged only with threatening Obama, the presumptive Democratic nominee, but not for any threat against Bush.

Geisel's court-appointed lawyer declined comment. The charge of threatening a major candidate for president or vice-president carries a maximum prison sentence of five years.

The Obama campaign declined comment Thursday on the alleged threat.

In the interview with a Secret Service agent, Geisel said "if he wanted to kill Senator Obama he simply would shoot him with a sniper rifle, but then he claimed that he was just joking," according to court documents.

A search of Geisel's 1998 Ford Explorer and hotel room in Miami uncovered a loaded 9 mm handgun, knives, dozens of rounds of ammunition including armour-piercing types, body armour, military-style fatigues and a machete. The SUV, which has Maine licence plates, was wired with flashing red and yellow emergency lights.

Geisel told the Secret Service he was originally from Bangor, Maine, and had been living recently in a houseboat in the Florida Keys town of Marathon, according to court documents. He said he used the handgun for training for the bail bondsman class, had the knives for protection and used the machete to cut brush in Maine.

In the affidavit, the Secret Service said Geisel told agents that he suffered from psychiatric problems including post-traumatic stress disorder, but he couldn't provide the names of any facilities where he sought treatment.

Doesn't suprise me.... in fact I said this sort of thing was going to happen soon enough.... and I bet it won't be the last.
 
Praxius
#2
Additional Information:


Ray Geisel is seen in this undated booking photo provided by Hampden Police. Geisel, a man who authorities said was keeping weapons and military-style gear in his hotel room and car, appeared in court Thursday on charges he threatened to assassinate Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.

http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/World/1072057.html

Pretty much the same information, but now we have a face to the name.
 
L Gilbert
#3
I wonder if the fact that he was charged for threatening Obama but not Bush is a law enforcement "statement" about the Bush administration. lol
 
Praxius
#4
Quote: Originally Posted by L Gilbert View Post

I wonder if the fact that he was charged for threatening Obama but not Bush is a law enforcement "statement" about the Bush administration. lol

You know, I was thinking the same thing, but decided not to say anything.
 
quandary121
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A search of Geisel's 1998 Ford Explorer and hotel room in Miami uncovered a loaded 9 mm handgun, knives, dozens of rounds of ammunition including armour-piercing types, body armour, military-style fatigues and a machete.

This sort of arsenal does not do anything to allay fears of what may have been an attempt at assassination , and he suffered from psychiatric problems you bet..!! how can somebody who is psychiatric get a gun ....?..

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charged only with threatening Obama

Why was he there to threaten Obama ,or is this just speculation..! He either did or did not surly,cos if by owning a gun and being near a top ranking official merits a threat then half the population of Orlando should be arrested ,in like manor...
 
talloola
#6
I think we all know that this sort of' possibility' is lurking in the minds of many of us.
I have had some fear for Obama for a long time, and no we don't want to talk about
it, but maybe we should, it's a scary problem, that is real.

Is 'talking about' it going to make the possibilities go away, or is 'not talking' about it going
to make it go away, Neither is true, it is 'just there', which is sad. I wonder how many sick
heads are actually wandering around the u.s., with cruel and sadistic ideas in their heads,
planning to do harm to 'anyone', not just Obama. I think the numbers, if we really knew
them, would astonish us.
 
missile
#7
Likewise,I doubt that Obama will live to be President,or if elected, be around in the White house for a full term. There are just too many people who hate blacks
 
talloola
#8
Quote: Originally Posted by missile View Post

Likewise,I doubt that Obama will live to be President,or if elected, be around in the White house for a full term. There are just too many people who hate blacks

Yes, I totally agree, lets just hope that 'some' will remember he is half white.
 
ottawabill
#9
Unfortunately (and I say so liking the U.S.) The racial factor alway remains high... some good ole boy will likely always be there to take a pot shot at Obama..geez there are still enough who would be terribly upset if a women became prez!!
 
unclepercy
#10
Quote: Originally Posted by talloola View Post

I think we all know that this sort of' possibility' is lurking in the minds of many of us.
I have had some fear for Obama for a long time, and no we don't want to talk about
it, but maybe we should, it's a scary problem, that is real.

Is 'talking about' it going to make the possibilities go away, or is 'not talking' about it going
to make it go away, Neither is true, it is 'just there', which is sad. I wonder how many sick
heads are actually wandering around the u.s., with cruel and sadistic ideas in their heads,
planning to do harm to 'anyone', not just Obama. I think the numbers, if we really knew
them, would astonish us.

You said it. I couldn't because I am American. It has been going around in the South ever
since he entered the race. That is why I said his middle name mattered. It absolutely does. Had it been Robert or Gary or Charles - it would have been a little more tolerable to those very people you mention. I wish him no ill will, but we have plenty of crackpots out there.

Uncle
 
Praxius
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by talloola View Post

Yes, I totally agree, lets just hope that 'some' will remember he is half white.

Lol... they'll only kill half of him?
 
scratch
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by Praxius View Post

Lol... they'll only kill half of him?




You know Prax, he has got to be thinking that this will not be the last time, and IF elected.....the crazies from the South will do him.
.....fifteen minutes later there will be another POTUS...dime a dozen...
 
talloola
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by Praxius View Post

Lol... they'll only kill half of him?

I always find it amazing that, when a person is 'part' black, he is then considered a 'black'
man/woman, why is that.
I suppose, in his case, the black community accepted him, as he is, and the white
community won't do that, they consider him 'black'.
He is actuality a 'milato' (sp.?)
 
BigLou
#14
No surprise this happened. He couldn't have done any damage anyway, seing as a 9mm would be a useless weapon to kill a potential prez with, and he wouldn't even get 10 feet without a sniper taking him out considering military fatigues aren't the most conspicuous of fashions.