Ontario boosts subsidies for electric car-buyers to up to $10,000


mentalfloss
#1
Alberta should do the same.


Ontario boosts subsidies for electric car-buyers to up to $10,000

Ontario is jump-starting subsidies for motorists who buy elect‎ric vehicles in a bid to cut pollution and greenhouse gas emissions.

The maximum incentive will rise to $10,000 from $8,500 and vehicles and with five or more seats will qualify for an extra $1,000, Premier Kathleen Wynne said Wednesday.

Vehicles with “larger battery capacities come with an additional grant of $3,000.

“With a growing population and expanding urban regions, transportation emissions pose one of our province’s greatest challenges in achieving our ambitious greenhouse gas pollution reduction targets,” Wynne said.

The government said it will also boost its funding to build more electric vehicle charging stations by $20 million.
Electric vehicles are a tiny portion of traffic on Ontario roads and highways — there are just 5,800 despite subsidies that have been available since 2010.

http://m.thestar.com/#/article/news/...-to-10000.html
 
petros
#2
Why not give them a tax credit?
 
B00Mer
No Party Affiliation
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petros
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#4
Nobody is using charging stations so buy people cars to charge all while tacking on more stupid idea debt?
 
darkbeaver
Republican
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It's my right to burn fossile fuels. Oil or death.
 
petros
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Where is the electric lawnmower subsidy or didn't ON invest in electric lawnmower manufacturing like they did autos that nobody obviously want?
 
mentalfloss
#7
Oil is a bad business these days.

This is a good move.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalbitch

Alberta should do the same

Why?

Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

Oil is a bad business these days.

This is a good move.

Why? Electric cars not selling? Why aren't they selling?
 
mentalfloss
#9
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Why?

Why not?

We should be transitioning away from oil.
 
petros
#10
Why invest in what doesn't sell?

Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

Why not?

We should be transitioning away from oil.

To what? Hemp?
 
mentalfloss
#11
Renewables mostly.

We don't really need oil anymore and it's bad for the environment.
 
petros
+1
#12
Oh nice..some digging has revealed hybrid and EV sales are down 50% thanks to lower gasoline prices.

That means sales were financially driven and not because of "environmental concerns".

How much did Wynne invest in EV and hybrids?

Maybe it is time to diversify beyond autos and get real manufacturing?
 
mentalfloss
#13
Manufacturing is also part of the old economy.
 
petros
#14
Green killed that, now all you have is autos with the EV and hybrid sector of that tanking after dumping taxpayer money into it.
 
mentalfloss
#15
Wrong.

It was NAFTA and free trade.

I thought you were smart enough to realize that.
 
petros
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No. It wasn't. Green did it in and continues to.
 
mentalfloss
#17
Nope.

The colour green did not kill manufacturing.


It was free trade with a country that allows for inhumanely low wages for manufacturing workers.

This is all well documented already.


When we ratify TPP it will finish the job.
 
petros
#18
Uh huh. ON pulp and paper was done in by Asians. Good grief!

Death throws....Hybrid, EV sales tumble in 2015
 
mentalfloss
#19
No causation.

Free trade is dwindling though, and it's not surprising.

Nations are starting to realize the human cost is not worth it.
 
petros
#20
Oh really? What happened to the tulip angle?
 
mentalfloss
#21
Nothing.

But that was the beauty of it.
 
petros
#22
It was a non issue.

So, how much taxpayer money did Wynne blow on EV and hybrids that are tanking?

Does everything she touches turn to sh-t or what?
 
mentalfloss
#23
Blown?

No it was a worthwhile investment.

People just get bogged down by start up costs.
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
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Gas is really cheap right now. It makes no sense to convert to a more expensive fuel source (thanx Premier Wynne for that really expensive electricity and those useless wind turbines) even if the car is cheaper. Plus its not like you can go anywhere in an electric car. There are gas stations every 2 blocks, where exactly can you charge your car?

I will stick with my car.

Btw Flossy, do you own an electric car? What type of car do you own?
 
mentalfloss
#25
Cheap gas for an oil exporting nation that has to pay alot to extract oil is bad.
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

Cheap gas for an oil exporting nation that has to pay alot to extract oil is bad.

Even worse for somebody having to pay somebody to spin a wind turbine around to go to the grocery store.
 
mentalfloss
#27
Not at all.

The cost benefit is much better.
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

Not at all.

The cost benefit is much better.

The cost for the consumer is much higher to use any electric vehicle than a gas vehicle. The cost to the taxpayer is also greater for electric fuel sources. And if you count the manufacturing and disposal of the batteries for the electric vehicle, its not any greener either.
 
mentalfloss
#29
It produces less carbon emissions and I agree that the cost to most consumers is still too high.

It will be another decade before mass production, but we'll be there first, which is nice.
 
Jinentonix
No Party Affiliation
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

It produces less carbon emissions

It's a trade off, and not necessarily a good one. At least 20% of China's farmland is toxic due to heavy metals. Almost all of the toxic poisoning is due to the mining and refining of rare earth elements and heavy metals. Heavy metals that are used in the manufacturing of batteries. A big increase in electric cars means a big increase in mining which means a big increase in both ground and air pollution, including GHGs.


In Ontario, electric cars might make sense for in town driving due to the fact that something like 85% of Ontario's hydro generation is emissions-free. But that's because of our nuclear capacity and to a lesser extent our hydro-electric capacity as opposed to turbines or solar, or fossil fuels
Not every jurisdiction has nuclear power or the hydro-electric capacity already in place. And that's important too because building large new dams usually isn't very green.