Ontario Imam: Muslims must reject secularism


Locutus
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strive to establish Islamic State & sharia law



Mazin AbdulAdhim, a prominent Imam of Iraqi descent in London, Ontario who is affiliated with the radical Islamic global movement of Hizb ut-Tahrir, calls on Canadian Muslims to stick to the Islamic law, reject secularism, work together to spread Islam, re-establish the Islamic State (Caliphate) and implement the rulings of Islam (Sharia Law).

The following are excerpts from Mazin AbdulAdhim online study group on July 29, 2016:
“What is the ruling [حكم] of Islam? let’s ask ourselves, we want to be revived? What is the ruling [حكم] of Islam for Palestine? What is the ruling [حكم] of Islam for Kashmir?

“The Muslim armies, or the Muslim men need to move and go protect the people that are being oppressed.

“That’s the ruling [حكم] of Islam. وَإِنِ اسْتَنصَرُوكُمْ فِي الدِّينِ فَعَلَيْكُمُ النَّصْرُ [Sura al-Anfal, verse 72: And if they seek help of you for the religion, then you must help].

“If weak people who need help ask help from the armies of the Muslims or the army of the Muslims, because it should be a one united army, you are required. So it is a command… you are required to respond. You must go and help them.

I t’s a requirement upon the Muslim armies to go and liberate Palestine and liberate Kashmir and protect Iraq and remove all the oppressors from there and protect Syria, protect the skies and so on and so forth. That’s the ruling [حكم] of Islam…

The problem of the Ummah [Muslim nation] today is that we’ve been secularized.

“The problem of the Ummah [Muslim nation] today is that we’re ignoring our political rulings [احكام] of Islam. Muslims are not working towards, Muslims are not demanding so, and we’re talking about a quarter of the planet. If one quarter of the planet demand something it’s going to happen.

“But not only are Muslims not working towards it, Muslims are fighting against it. How many videos do you see online where some famous speaker is speaking out against the call for the Caliphate (Islamic State – خلافة)?…

“Wherever you go you find Muslims fighting against this call, because they’ve been secularized, because they’re told [that] politics is, put it aside, keep it outside of the mosque [مسجد], we don’t it in the mosque [مسجد]. And so we have to look at the practical application, that’s what I mean by the rational concept of a revival rather than, it is a topic related to the Islamic Law [شرعي] without a doubt, but it has to be put into context in our current reality today.

“Once we do, then we apply all the verses [آيات ] and the [Islamic] rulings [احكام] in the context of the Islamic Law [شرعي] on it, but first you have to first of all set up the context and say: This is the problem that we’re facing today which is the Ummah [Muslim nation] is being influenced by a creed [عقيدة] other than Islam…

“Secularism is system that makes you think that you’re being a practising Muslim, but you’re actually being a practising Muslim secularist, because you’re only focusing on the things that secularism teaches you to focus on, which is fasting and praying and praying and reading Quran and making supplications [دعاء] and doing the remembrance [ذكر] of Allah in the morning and praying in the mosque [مسجد] and getting married and so on and so forth, and maintaining Halal business dealings, but you have no role in legislation, no role in politics.

The only thing you do with politics is how Muslims go vote for people who implement Kufr [heresy].

“And that’s the problem is that we today have essentially as an Ummah [Muslim nation] adopted secularism as our creed [عقيدة] as our way of life as our comprehensive idea of life in universe…

“This is the cause of all of our problems. We have been secularist and we don’t even realize it. This is why we have to order the good and forbid the evil [الامر بالمعروف والنهي عن المنكر].

“We have to teach the Ummah [Muslim nation] this. This is why it is important to work to re-establish the Caliphate [Islamic State], because if everybody is teaching these ideas then everyone would realized that they’re being secularized.
T he more Muslims are training Dawah [outreach, propagation to Islam] the fast the Caliphate [Islamic State], Allah Willing [ ان شاء الله ] will be establishedwe need to call for the implementation of Islam.”

Canadian Imam: Muslims must reject secularism, strive to establish Islamic State – CIJNews English

cool story mohamed
 
Angstrom
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Kick him the fu€k out!
 
lone wolf
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...don't think there hasn't been a scope or two on him....
 
Murphy
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Time to get serious with these people. It's probably too late for Europe. Cut out the disease before it spreads any farther.
 
Remington1
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LOL we're going to need a much better and stronger leader, that's for sure. He wants to ignore these types of **** in your face rhetoric BS, actually JT agrees with Sharia law. We are sleeping, the same as England, France and Belgium were for years. Hate speech, and that is what they are, are very well known, but we are still in the politically correct stage. When we step away from this stage, it will be when we pick up slaughtered pregnant woman or our people are run over by a truck, it's interesting how everybody can see this, that is except the people paid to not only know this hatred is being spread, but the very people who are paid to do something about it, we, Canadians want and accept a secular country, that is for now, when we are still the majority!! The caliphate!!, seriously f*&ck.

Did I hear the O'Leary wanted to jump into politics?
 
bill barilko
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Something happened in London Ontario?

Kind of hard to believe.
 
Cliffy
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Why just pick on Muslims? Ban all religion.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

Why just pick on Muslims? Ban all religion.

Especially dirt worshipping.
 
mentalfloss
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Another thread about muslims.
 
Murphy
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Quote: Originally Posted by Remington1 View Post

LOL we're going to need a much better and stronger leader, that's for sure. He wants to ignore these types of **** in your face rhetoric BS, actually JT agrees with Sharia law. We are sleeping, the same as England, France and Belgium were for years. Hate speech, and that is what they are, are very well known, but we are still in the politically correct stage. When we step away from this stage, it will be when we pick up slaughtered pregnant woman or our people are run over by a truck, it's interesting how everybody can see this, that is except the people paid to not only know this hatred is being spread, but the very people who are paid to do something about it, we, Canadians want and accept a secular country, that is for now, when we are still the majority!! The caliphate!!, seriously f*&ck.

Did I hear the O'Leary wanted to jump into politics?

I agree. In my opinion, Justin isn't up to the job. He's probably dress in a thawb and carry their swords for them.

I had heard Kevin say this, but I believe it was more tongue in cheek.
 
petros
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I should start calling myself an Imam.
 
lone wolf
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Okay.... You ma'am
 
Jinentonix
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

Another thread about muslims.

No, it's a thread about sh*t heads coming here and then deciding their f*cktarded delusional beliefs take precedence over our laws and cultural mores.
 
Angstrom
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Quote: Originally Posted by Jinentonix View Post

No, it's a thread about sh*t heads coming here and then deciding their f*cktarded delusional beliefs take precedence over our laws and cultural mores.

Mentalfart has no problems with that. He enjoyed it when Christians did it to North American Natives.

Really worked out great for the natives.
 
mentalfloss
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Quote: Originally Posted by Jinentonix View Post

No, it's a thread about sh*t heads coming here and then deciding their f*cktarded delusional beliefs take precedence over our laws and cultural mores.

 
Jinentonix
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

Well way to go Mentalfart. I was mistaken to think you were at the shallow end of the gene pool. Nah, you're in that little puddle thingy that toddlers splash around in.

Quote: Originally Posted by Angstrom View Post

Mentalfart has no problems with that. He enjoyed it when Christians did it to North American Natives.

Really worked out great for the natives.

Yeah but I still respect the Natives for that. At least they put up a fight and are still fighting. Half-wits like Mentalcase are perfectly happy to lay down, let it happen and take it like a b*tch.
 
mentalfloss
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This is not a problem.
 
Jinentonix
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

This is not a problem.

That you're stupid? Well if it's not a problem for you then....
 
Machjo
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Quote: Originally Posted by Locutus View Post

strive to establish Islamic State & sharia law



Mazin AbdulAdhim, a prominent Imam of Iraqi descent in London, Ontario who is affiliated with the radical Islamic global movement of Hizb ut-Tahrir, calls on Canadian Muslims to stick to the Islamic law, reject secularism, work together to spread Islam, re-establish the Islamic State (Caliphate) and implement the rulings of Islam (Sharia Law).

The following are excerpts from Mazin AbdulAdhim online study group on July 29, 2016:

“What is the ruling [حكم] of Islam? let’s ask ourselves, we want to be revived? What is the ruling [حكم] of Islam for Palestine? What is the ruling [حكم] of Islam for Kashmir?

“The Muslim armies, or the Muslim men need to move and go protect the people that are being oppressed.

“That’s the ruling [حكم] of Islam. وَإِنِ اسْتَنصَرُوكُمْ فِي الدِّينِ فَعَلَيْكُمُ النَّصْرُ [Sura al-Anfal, verse 72: And if they seek help of you for the religion, then you must help].

“If weak people who need help ask help from the armies of the Muslims or the army of the Muslims, because it should be a one united army, you are required. So it is a command… you are required to respond. You must go and help them.

I t’s a requirement upon the Muslim armies to go and liberate Palestine and liberate Kashmir and protect Iraq and remove all the oppressors from there and protect Syria, protect the skies and so on and so forth. That’s the ruling [حكم] of Islam…

The problem of the Ummah [Muslim nation] today is that we’ve been secularized.

“The problem of the Ummah [Muslim nation] today is that we’re ignoring our political rulings [احكام] of Islam. Muslims are not working towards, Muslims are not demanding so, and we’re talking about a quarter of the planet. If one quarter of the planet demand something it’s going to happen.

“But not only are Muslims not working towards it, Muslims are fighting against it. How many videos do you see online where some famous speaker is speaking out against the call for the Caliphate (Islamic State – خلافة)?…

“Wherever you go you find Muslims fighting against this call, because they’ve been secularized, because they’re told [that] politics is, put it aside, keep it outside of the mosque [مسجد], we don’t it in the mosque [مسجد]. And so we have to look at the practical application, that’s what I mean by the rational concept of a revival rather than, it is a topic related to the Islamic Law [شرعي] without a doubt, but it has to be put into context in our current reality today.

“Once we do, then we apply all the verses [آيات ] and the [Islamic] rulings [احكام] in the context of the Islamic Law [شرعي] on it, but first you have to first of all set up the context and say: This is the problem that we’re facing today which is the Ummah [Muslim nation] is being influenced by a creed [عقيدة] other than Islam…

“Secularism is system that makes you think that you’re being a practising Muslim, but you’re actually being a practising Muslim secularist, because you’re only focusing on the things that secularism teaches you to focus on, which is fasting and praying and praying and reading Quran and making supplications [دعاء] and doing the remembrance [ذكر] of Allah in the morning and praying in the mosque [مسجد] and getting married and so on and so forth, and maintaining Halal business dealings, but you have no role in legislation, no role in politics.

The only thing you do with politics is how Muslims go vote for people who implement Kufr [heresy].

“And that’s the problem is that we today have essentially as an Ummah [Muslim nation] adopted secularism as our creed [عقيدة] as our way of life as our comprehensive idea of life in universe…

“This is the cause of all of our problems. We have been secularist and we don’t even realize it. This is why we have to order the good and forbid the evil [الامر بالمعروف والنهي عن المنكر].

“We have to teach the Ummah [Muslim nation] this. This is why it is important to work to re-establish the Caliphate [Islamic State], because if everybody is teaching these ideas then everyone would realized that they’re being secularized.
T he more Muslims are training Dawah [outreach, propagation to Islam] the fast the Caliphate [Islamic State], Allah Willing [ ان شاء الله ] will be establishedwe need to call for the implementation of Islam.”

Canadian Imam: Muslims must reject secularism, strive to establish Islamic State – CIJNews English

cool story mohamed

There's spin in the article. Why add ISIS in brackets following the word Khalifa when Khalifa can have many other meanings. In fact, most Muslims when referring to Khalifa are more likely to be referring to the historical Khalifa of centuries ago, not ISIS.

Also, it's not clear that he is promoting violence but rather just lamenting that Muslims accept too many secular ideas.

Plus it indicates that most Muslims don't agree with him.the whole point of the speech.

Quote: Originally Posted by Jinentonix View Post

No, it's a thread about sh*t heads coming here and then deciding their f*cktarded delusional beliefs take precedence over our laws and cultural mores.

And that they must then try to convince everyone else within their own group to accept it and Lament their failure to do so.
 
DaSleeper
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Another apologist

And flossy wants more ladder threads
 
Jinentonix
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Quote: Originally Posted by Machjo View Post

There's spin in the article. Why add ISIS in brackets following the word Khalifa when Khalifa can have many other meanings. In fact, most Muslims when referring to Khalifa are more likely to be referring to the historical Khalifa of centuries ago, not ISIS.

Also, it's not clear that he is promoting violence but rather just lamenting that Muslims accept too many secular ideas.

Plus it indicates that most Muslims don't agree with him.the whole point of the speech.



And that they must then try to convince everyone else within their own group to accept it and Lament their failure to do so.

Ugh. If they have such a problem our laws and cultural mores, then they don't have to f*cking come here. No one is putting a gun to their head and saying, "You have to move to Canada". It really is that simple.
 
Machjo
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Quote: Originally Posted by Jinentonix View Post

Ugh. If they have such a problem our laws and cultural mores, then they don't have to f*cking come here. No one is putting a gun to their head and saying, "You have to move to Canada". It really is that simple.

Where did it say in the article that he was an immigrant?
 
Jinentonix
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Quote: Originally Posted by Machjo View Post

Where did it say in the article that he was an immigrant?

You're right. Then just arrest him or shoot him. Either one.
 
EagleSmack
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It's probably nothing to worry about.

 
Bar Sinister
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As usual several forum members are hopping onto the anti-Muslim bandwagon. I really see no difference between a Muslim cleric attempting to support the outmoded religious ideas of Islam and the various Christian sects that pushed for the Bible to be used as the basis for all things Canadian. I can remember a succession of Bible-thumping preachers including the narrow-minded Premier of Alberta, Ernest Manning, railing against the moral decadence of other Canadians and attempting to impose their beliefs on everyone else. They didn't succeed and neither will AbdulAdhim for the simple reason that the majority of Canadians as well as the majority of Muslim Canadians is not remotely interested in a religious-based society.
 
mentalfloss
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Quote: Originally Posted by Jinentonix View Post

That you're stupid? Well if it's not a problem for you then....

No, terrorism is not a problem.

It's a mild concern, exaggerated by the media and the capitalized on by social conservative parties.
 
EagleSmack
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Belgium Launches Terror Probe as ISIS Claims Machete Attack - WSJ
 
Walter
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Quote: Originally Posted by Bar Sinister View Post

As usual several forum members are hopping onto the anti-Muslim bandwagon. I really see no difference between a Muslim cleric attempting to support the outmoded religious ideas of Islam and the various Christian sects that pushed for the Bible to be used as the basis for all things Canadian. I can remember a succession of Bible-thumping preachers including the narrow-minded Premier of Alberta, Ernest Manning, railing against the moral decadence of other Canadians and attempting to impose their beliefs on everyone else. They didn't succeed and neither will AbdulAdhim for the simple reason that the majority of Canadians as well as the majority of Muslim Canadians is not remotely interested in a religious-based society.

The Bible is already used as the basis for much of our criminal code.
 
Machjo
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

No, terrorism is not a problem.

It's a mild concern, exaggerated by the media and the capitalized on by social conservative parties.

Unfortunately, since social conservatism should not equate with xenophobia.
 
DaSleeper
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Quote: Originally Posted by Bar Sinister View Post

As usual several forum members are hopping onto the anti-Muslim bandwagon. I really see no difference between a Muslim cleric attempting to support the outmoded religious ideas of Islam and the various Christian sects that pushed for the Bible to be used as the basis for all things Canadian. I can remember a succession of Bible-thumping preachers including the narrow-minded Premier of Alberta, Ernest Manning, railing against the moral decadence of other Canadians and attempting to impose their beliefs on everyone else. They didn't succeed and neither will AbdulAdhim for the simple reason that the majority of Canadians as well as the majority of Muslim Canadians is not remotely interested in a religious-based society.

One little bit of difference... defy a bible thumper and your risk is eternal damnation.....(If you believe in that)
Defy a muslim cleric and you risk your head coming off ...non?