Gun Control is Completely Useless.


JLM
No Party Affiliation
+2
#12451
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

Indeed, Canaduh. You're remarkably skilled at running your mouth without filling your brain. Or whatever occupies the space between your ears, aside from Trump's dick.


Still nowhere near as skilled as you are!
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
+2
#12452
Most violent weekend in Chicago this year: At least 52 shot, 8 fatally

At least 52 people were shot, eight of them fatally, across Chicago over the weekend, the most violent of the year as summer gets underway, with a toll even higher than during the long Memorial Day holiday just a week earlier.

More than half the victims were wounded during a 12-hour burst of gunfire from Friday evening to Saturday morning. At least four of the 31 people shot during that time died after attacks on the West and South sides. At least one other person over the weekend was fatally stabbed, bringing the homicide toll to nine.

The level of violence, which typically spikes during the summer months, eclipsed that of the three-day Memorial Day weekend when at least 43 people were shot, seven of them fatally. Police Superintendent Eddie Johnson held a news conference Monday morning, calling the level of violence “despicable.”

In a statement Sunday night, the department’s chief spokesman said Johnson ordered “targeted patrols” in areas of potential retaliation by gangs. “Those efforts have resulted in 19 arrests on gun-related charges and 81 illegal weapons seized since Friday evening,” Anthony Guglielmi said. “Several people of interest are also being questioned in relation to some of our incidents and detectives have good video leads in others.”
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...603-story.html

Ooops! Someone's mouth run just got car jacked by the gun free facts.
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
+2
#12453
Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

An AR 15 is a perfect example of a mass casualty firearm
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ngs/339519002/

Yeah, so what about when they are used to stop a mass shooter?

You know...to prevent mass casualties.



SAY...

Trucking Fatalities Reach Highest Level in 29 Years


Large truck fatalities rose 9 percent to 4,761, an increase of 392 lives lost over the prior year. About 1,300 of the deaths were truckers. The remaining 72 percent occurred in the other vehicle involved in the collision.
https://www.trucks.com/2018/10/04/la...-29-year-high/

We know what "tools" of mass destruction need to go...

72 percent killed in the OTHER vehicle eh?...I see what the gun you carry is for. Witnesses.
Last edited by Danbones; Jun 4th, 2019 at 06:10 AM..
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+4
#12454
I thought we were suppose to be more like Australia

Gunman out on parole kills 4 in Australian city of Darwin

Extreme firearm control didn't help in Darwin
 
Colpy
Conservative
+2
#12455
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

I thought we were suppose to be more like Australia

Gunman out on parole kills 4 in Australian city of Darwin

Extreme firearm control didn't help in Darwin


Especially this bit:


From your article:



Quote:

It was Australia's third mass shooting since the country introduced tough gun laws in response to a 1996 massacre in which a lone gunman armed with two semi-automatic assault rifles killed 35 people in Tasmania state. Mass shootings are usually defined as those resulting in at least four deaths excluding the shooter.



How many times have I read anti-gunners claim that there have been no mass shootings in Australia since their massive gun seizures?


A lot.


Liars.
 
Hoid
#12456
Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

]How many times have I read anti-gunners claim that there have been no mass shootings in Australia since their massive gun seizures?[/SIZE][/SIZE]
A lot.
Liars.

There should be a bunch on this thread then.

GO find us one Clompy.
 
DaSleeper
+2
#12457
Deputy charged with child neglect for not doing enough during Parkland shooting.......

https://www.wtsp.com/article/news/re...4-b8588b700c11
 
spilledthebeer
#12458
Quote: Originally Posted by Danbones View Post

Yes they say vice grips will turn a lip off in no time.






OH HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!


I WILL BUY TWO PAIRS OF GRIPS FOR YOU..............................................


If you put one set on hemer-HOID and the other on Tecumsehbonesforbrains!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Definitely a WORTHWHILE investment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
DaSleeper
+1
#12459
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

There should be a bunch on this thread then.

GO find us one Clompy.

Whatsamater??? don't know how to read? ...Dummy!
Posted above by twin moose

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world...cid=spartanntp
 
Tecumsehsbones
#12460
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

I thought we were suppose to be more like Australia
Gunman out on parole kills 4 in Australian city of Darwin
Extreme firearm control didn't help in Darwin

Not if you're so staggeringly stupid you think 3 = several hundred.
 
JamesBondo
+2
#12461
Quote:

Pump action shotguns have been virtually banned from private ownership in Australia along with other rapid-fire weapons under the country's tough gun laws designed to prevent mass shootings.

A pump action is not a rapid fire weapon.
 
JamesBondo
+1
#12462
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/australi...-levels-return

Quote:

“Over the last 10 years, the importation of fire arms has built up again, and now I know from customs figures that we have already replaced a million guns in Australia."

So did the total count for gun deaths return to its original levels also?
 
Tecumsehsbones
+1
#12463
Quote: Originally Posted by JamesBondo View Post

A pump action is not a rapid fire weapon.

It is if your standard is muzzle-loading muskets.

Or if you're a journalist who can't figure out which end of a gun is dangerous.
 
spilledthebeer
#12464
Quote: Originally Posted by JamesBondo View Post

A pump action is not a rapid fire weapon.






PEABRAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The purpose of the original comment was to PROVE that Comprehensive Australian gun laws HAVE DONE NOTHING to keep guns out of the hands of CRIMINALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!


The purpose of the original comment was TO PROVE that Our idiot Boy and his loser LIE-berals are FULL OF SH+T when they talk about their ALLEGED SOLUTIONS TO CRIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!


LIE-berals want us to become USED TO crime in the same way we deal with thunderstorms and tornadoes..............................


they want us to simply duck and cover............................................. ....


AND COWER .......................................until the storm blows over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!


LIE-berals HAVE NO INTENTION of taking ANY practical action on crime!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals consider that fighting crime will cut into THEIR supply of gravy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !


And LIE-berals FEAR the loss of votes if they take strong action on crime!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Stupid LIE-beral GREED AND HYPOCRISY are the order of the LIE-beral Sunny DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+2
#12465
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

Not if you're so staggeringly stupid you think 3 = several hundred.

Who said that? 4 is still too many no?
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
#12466
Quote: Originally Posted by JamesBondo View Post

A pump action is not a rapid fire weapon.


Whut?



OH Shoot!
 
spilledthebeer
#12467
Quote: Originally Posted by Danbones View Post

Whut?



OH Shoot!






OH YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


TYPICAL LIE-beral DODGE AWAY from the fact that Australian laws that are TIGHTER than in Canada...........................................



and yet HAVE FAILED to keep guns out of the hands of CRIMINALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



The LIE-beral legal system with its policy of catch and release by hug a thug judges............................................


IS A TOTAL FAILURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And LIE-berals have made matters worse with their HIGHLY


UN-SELECTIVE immigration process that ensures ill



educated screwups get moved TO THE HEAD OF THE



LINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



LIE-berals literally PREFER ill educated dorks who think that "pimp, drug dealer and thief" are VIABLE career choices!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Especially when they can supplement their income with Cdn WELFARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals insult white people at EVERY OPPORTUNITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Colpy
Conservative
+2
#12468




Mark Holland Ajax, ON


What thugs do is to make sure they are able to keep weapons in their car and not have to answer any questions. That is what they are going to do. They are going to put the weapons in the car and drive wherever they go. They know that if they are pulled over by a police officer, all they have to do is list one of a million different places to explain where they are going. That is what this legislation changes.


On purchase verification, which is very important, today when we are dealing with people who are not gun store owners but individuals who are selling to another individual, there is no way of being sure that the individuals in question have an up-to-date and valid PAL. As an example, if somebody has committed a series of crimes and they still have their card, they can purchase that gun without any check. Therefore, all this legislation requires one to do is to make a very quick call. It costs nothing. No information is given about the firearm, except to say, “Hey, I am going to sell; this person is going to buy. Is everybody okay here? Is the PAL up to date? Is this person allowed to own a gun? Am I allowed to sell a gun?” If it's yes, then away one goes.


That then allows a person to sell 10 or 20 weapons and there is no information about the firearm. However, it makes sure that the people who are buying and selling are doing so legitimately and are in fact law-abiding gun owners. What we are finding is that, very sadly, many of the firearms that are now being sold on our streets are being sold not because they are being smuggled or snuck into Canada, but they are being sold from within Canada, from within the existing stock of guns. Unfortunately, that means that a lot of people are taking law-abiding firearms owners' weapons and then selling them to gangs.


These are statistics. These are facts. It has been explained very clearly by the chiefs of police, who by the way support this bill. They say it is an important change, and it is needed for public safety. I put some stock in what the chiefs of police tell us. I do not think they go around saying that public safety changes are important for no reason.


The other thing that comes up is the RCMP classification of weapons. Some have said that there should be a check on the RCMP. Let us be very clear: that check is the Criminal Code. The Criminal Code of Canada very clearly prescribes in this country what is a prohibited weapon, a restricted weapon, and an unrestricted weapon. It is up to the RCMP to interpret that legislation. In fact, they do it about 8,000 times a year. The idea that politicians could overturn that effectively means the provisions we put into the Criminal Code have no meaning.


It is our job as legislators to describe at the highest level what those classifications should be in terms of those prohibited, restricted, and unrestricted weapons. It is the job of the RCMP, as an independent arm's-length arbiter, to then enforce it. It is not up to politicians to say that this particular semi-automatic weapon seems to be popular, so let us just override the RCMP. The RCMP has an important job to do, and it is important that we let them do that job. That is why we made that commitment in the platform.
I mentioned earlier in my speech that these are not the only things we are doing to make Canada's streets and our communities safer.



There is a litany of things we are doing to try to improve public safety, but it is a piece of the puzzle. For example, when we had the guns and gangs summit in Ottawa, which was hosted by the minister, and that I and many members of this House were privileged to be a part of, we talked about the money we are putting into communities, escalating to $100 million a year, to help build the capacity to deal with what gun and gang violence looks like in each individual community.


We saw that reality in Ajax, my home community, where unfortunately there was a shooting at our ribfest. It is unheard of for us to see this kind of gun violence in our neck of the woods. The realities of what we can do to change the problem of guns and gangs, suicides, and domestic violence differ very much from what we would see in a community, let us say, Red Deer, Alberta, or Summerside, P.E.I.



Those communities need to be given the funds, resources, and support to be able to build those solutions from the ground up.
I say that as a former member of the Police Services Board in Durham region. I so often saw self-evident solutions that needed to be funded and supported, but the box we had to contort ourselves in was created in Ottawa or Queen's Park. It was frankly completely disconnected from what was actually going to work on the ground in those communities. That is one of the reasons why our biggest push is for support at the community level, to give them the capacity and strength they need to be able to tackle this problem. Of course, we have done this in addition to a whole host of measures to improve border security to stop the illegal smuggling of weapons across the border.


This is something that has been brought out in testimony at committee, and I want to say it here today. It is unfortunate that every time we talk about firearms, violence, and death, we do not talk about suicide. We only talk about gangs. We do not talk about the tremendous problem we have with domestic violence as well. We have to come at this from every angle. That means the debate we have on these issues must be worthy of the weight of the issue.


That means when people send a Facebook ad pretending that there is a new registry, that dishonest action is unworthy of the debate we must have in this place. I know that for every single one of us, every member, our hearts are ripped apart when we see gun violence tear into our community. Whether it is somebody walking into a mosque in Sainte-Foy and tearing down the congregants who were just trying to pray, or a domestic violence situation in my own riding where a father killed a mother and his own children, or somebody who commits suicide in our community, the weight of what is in front of us is important. It is something that obviously I am very passionate about.


I hope that folks can see, as well, that it means we have to take action, but at the same time we must protect and support law-abiding gun owners. That is why none of these measures cost anything. Most of these measures, in fact almost in their entirety, only deal with restricted or prohibited firearms, the most limited class of firearms. Unfortunately, most of the debate against it has gone into hyperbole with respect to things that have nothing to do with this bill.


Therefore, do I think that we should go 85 days touring around on something that was in the platform and requires immediate action when we have so much other work to do? No. It is time to pass this bill. It is time to move forward on the other collective actions we can do to make our communities safe. I look forward to doing exactly that.


LIES!!!
Just to start, the only way you can get a firearms license is undergo a training course and background check. That means Canadian gun owners are not "thugs" What a PoS.


I'll have a heart attack if I have to address the rest of this, but it is all BS to one degree or another.


OUT with you in October.

 
Hoid
#12469
Clompy on a tear with the fake gun nut news.

Where are all these end of the world liberal gun grabbing laws?

Will they arrive before or after CNN dies?
 
B00Mer
No Party Affiliation
+1
#12470
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Clompy on a tear with the fake gun nut news.
Where are all these end of the world liberal gun grabbing laws?
Will they arrive before or after CNN dies?



Democrats Are Newly Emboldened on Gun Control


2019: THE YEAR DEMOCRATS TRY AND TAKE YOUR GUNS

...oh and CNN isn't dead yet? Never watch it, wouldn't know.
 
Colpy
Conservative
+1
#12471
Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post



Democrats Are Newly Emboldened on Gun Control


2019: THE YEAR DEMOCRATS TRY AND TAKE YOUR GUNS

...oh and CNN isn't dead yet? Never watch it, wouldn't know.


You wonder if these idiots ever heard of Lexington and Concord
 
Hoid
#12472
I wonder if you idiots have ever heard of Columbine and Parkland.
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
+2
#12473
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

I wonder if you idiots have ever heard of Columbine and Parkland.


Guns weren't at fault there, idiots were! Let's starting putting the blame where it belongs.
 
Hoid
#12474
I blame the nra.
 
DaSleeper
+5
#12475






Hoid / Waldo

 
B00Mer
No Party Affiliation
+2
#12476
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

I wonder if you idiots have ever heard of Columbine and Parkland.

Shane: A gun is a tool, Marion. No better and no worse than any other tool - an axe, a shovel, or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ternps0JFwo
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
+2
#12477
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

I blame the nra.


Why? It was Assholes who committed the crime. We're a litigation society and it has to stop.
 
B00Mer
No Party Affiliation
+2
#12478
 
Decapoda
+3
#12479
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

I blame the nra.


Most pathetically naive, one dimensional thinkers do.
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
+3
#12480
Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

Shane: A gun is a tool, Marion. No better and no worse than any other tool - an axe, a shovel, or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ternps0JFwo


Exactly...………………..Idiots can't see that!