Should Canada keep the Monarchy?


B00Mer
#1
Should Canada keep the Monarchy?



Turf 'em

I've heard all the excuses, and none of them have won my heart over to the monarchist camp.

1. "It's our heritage" - no, it's British heritage

2. "It's what distinguishes us from Americans" - no, if that's what you think really separates us from them, then you have a piss-poor idea of what a Canadian really is. Besides, if we insist on distinguishing ourselves from Americans based on meaningless trivialities, we might as well do something totally useful, like converting entirely to the metric system, etc.

3. "Keeping them saves a few bucks. The Queen is free" This is the worst one. This is the part of the Canadian psyche I don't like: when we think of money before substance. The price tag doesn't matter, what matters is the ability to unleash ourselves from years of cultural servitude. Even if you think it's benign and harmless, I have to stare at the Queen's mug everyday on my twenty dollar bills and coins reminding myself that we are still not entirely masters of our own house.

Your thoughts?
 
darkbeaver
+1
#2
Keeping a Queen all these years has cost a lot of money and dead soldiers. We should have spent the coin on beer.
 
Colpy
+1
#3
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver View Post

Keeping a Queen all these years has cost a lot of money and dead soldiers. We should have spent the coin on beer.

Who exactly died because of the Queen?

My father-in-law, combat veteran of World War II in the Canadian Army, requested he be buried with the Union Jack, as he fought for King and Country..........

But he was a US citizen at the time, so it doesn't count.

 
mentalfloss
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#4  Top Rated Post
I extend my rotten middle finger to the Queen.
 
gerryh
+2
#5
Should Canada keep the monarchy? Of course, stupid question. Should the americans keep the presidency?
 
Cliffy
+2 / -1
#6
Na! I say get rid of the old reptilian baby eater and all her kin. Deport the whole lot of them back to Germany from whence they came.
 
Colpy
+2
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

I extend my rotten middle finger to the Queen.

That is because you are an arsehole, we expect no class nor any hint of understanding from you, and we are never disappointed.
 
B00Mer
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Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh View Post

Should Canada keep the monarchy? Of course, stupid question. Should the americans keep the presidency?

The Queen isn't our Prime Minister?? Unless you're saying the Queen is Canada's President?

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/in...-monarchy.html

Mods you can merg these two threads pls.
 
darkbeaver
+2
#9
Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

Who exactly died because of the Queen?

My father-in-law, combat veteran of World War II in the Canadian Army, requested he be buried with the Union Jack, as he fought for King and Country..........

But he was a US citizen at the time, so it doesn't count.

What history exactly did you study? The all died serving the Crown. Hundreds of thousands of young men butchered to save and fatten the useless privilaged.
 
lone wolf
#10
Prime Minister isn't Canada's head of state. That's the queen - represented by the Governor General - whereas the President is the US head of state
 
Colpy
+1
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Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver View Post

What history exactly did you study? The all died serving the Crown. Hundreds of thousands of young men butchered to save and fatten the useless privilaged.

Yes, yes I know. Had we not been such suckers, we could all be goose-stepping around looking for Jews to burn.......

Sigh. The possibilities.
 
gerryh
+1
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

The Queen isn't our Prime Minister?? Unless you're saying the Queen is Canada's President?

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/in...-monarchy.html


Wow, just wow. Why did you even bother with this thread since you obviously don't have a fu cking clue.

Read lonewolf's response.
 
HarperCons
+1
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

That is because you are an arsehole, we expect no class nor any hint of understanding from you, and we are never disappointed.

Maybe you can worship arbitrary hierarchies unthinkingly, but that age is ending.
 
darkbeaver
+2
#14
Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

Yes, yes I know. Had we not been such suckers, we could all be goose-stepping around looking for Jews to burn.......

Sigh. The possibilities.

Mr Hitler had one chance in ten billion of conquering the world which he blew the day he invaded Russia. The combined Allied war effort paled to nothing compared to the Russian effort. Russia won the second world war, period.
 
Cliffy
+1
#15
Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

Yes, yes I know. Had we not been such suckers, we could all be goose-stepping around looking for Jews to burn.......

Sigh. The possibilities.

There never was a possibility that Germany would occupy America. There never was any other reason to go to war than to profit from it. The reasons for war are never what is fed to the sheeple, who are then fed to the war machine. War is a racket.
 
Frankiedoodle
#16
Yes, Canada should keep the monarchy. It would take years to change our government. However, sadly, when our Queen steps down or passes I think that will be the end of the monarchy.
 
Colpy
+2
#17
Reasons to keep the Monarchy:

1. It works

2. Getting rid of it would require extensive modification of the Constitution, which means opening it for all issues.

3. Just to remove the Crown would require unanimous consent across the provinces.....impossible.

4. Tradition.

5. The symbolism of forcing the Monarch to mouth the words of the representative of the people.....our triumph over the Divine Right of Kings.
 
Murphy
+1
#18
I don't see a point to the monarchy. Any monarchy, in fact. They are dinosaurs politically. They just use up taxpayer's money, best spent on health or education. Some of your points are, well, silly. It's the 21st century. They perform no function. They are living statues.



Some constitutional changes are tough. This one isn't. The generations of monarchists are aging or dead. There would be little fight in Canada.

There are other, easier ways to make visitors to Canada happy. Historic reenactments involving dead monarchs will attract tourists with much less fuss and cost. Let some aboriginals and serge suited Mounties dance around on Parliament Hill for the people to photograph. Tie up a polar bear or two in some of the parks for the Euro folks or the Japanese to be eaten by. Scatter some totem poles around and decorate the downtown of some towns.

The divine right of kings was an explanation used hundreds of years ago to keep the peasants from chopping off the heads of aristocrats. Don't mess with me because if you do, you're really messing with God. It worked once upon a time, but is meaningless today.
 
petros
#19
Is Vicky holding the Holy Hand Grenade?
 
Murphy
#20
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver View Post

Mr Hitler had one chance in ten billion of conquering the world which he blew the day he invaded Russia. The combined Allied war effort paled to nothing compared to the Russian effort. Russia won the second world war, period.

Quite true.

Had Canada been a republic in 1939, I think they would have entered the war. I wasn't around at the time, so I can only go from family stories and historic documents. Regardless, it still took Parliament's okee-doodle to send troops anyway.

Then there's this fellow. He talked to ghosts and stuff. He has the face of a royalist, n'est pas?



Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Is Vicky holding the Holy Hand Grenade?

I do believe she is. That, or a fancy box with Prince Albert's family jewels inside.
 
Mowich
+2
#21
How many threads do we have to have on the subject before it becomes clear that for the most part Canadians are content to have Elizabeth as our Queen. Count me among those who support the Monarchy.
 
Murphy
#22
I don't know.

I also don't know what most Canadians think about the monarchy. Last I heard from some acquaintances at U of T and the military was that informal polls saw a decrease in support. But their surveys, like the ones on this forum, are not official or statistically valid.
 
Cliffy
+2
#23


"We are here to create a new world, not conform to this backwards bull****." — Gavin Nascimento
 
Sons of Liberty
#24
Quote: Originally Posted by Murphy View Post

I don't know.

I also don't know what most Canadians think about the monarchy. Last I heard from some acquaintances at U of T and the military was that informal polls saw a decrease in support. But their surveys, like the ones on this forum, are not official or statistically valid.

Where there is will there is a way, there is no will in Canada. Looking in from the outside, even if support for the Monarchy dwindles, the mere mention of a Constitutional Amendment or anything else that disrupts the status quo brings shivers to the average Canadian.
 
Danbones
#25
*sigh*
the queen and having your foreskin lopped off
ownership has its priviledges
 
taxslave
#26
Way past time to dump the inbred foreign rulers. It is embarrassing in this day and age to have an unelected foreigner as our head of state.
 
mentalfloss
#27
Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

That is because you are an arsehole, we expect no class nor any hint of understanding from you, and we are never disappointed.

Fukk your Queen.

It's time for a Quexit.
 
Trek
#28
Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

Should Canada keep the Monarchy?



Turf 'em

I've heard all the excuses, and none of them have won my heart over to the monarchist camp.

1. "It's our heritage" - no, it's British heritage

2. "It's what distinguishes us from Americans" - no, if that's what you think really separates us from them, then you have a piss-poor idea of what a Canadian really is. Besides, if we insist on distinguishing ourselves from Americans based on meaningless trivialities, we might as well do something totally useful, like converting entirely to the metric system, etc.

3. "Keeping them saves a few bucks. The Queen is free" This is the worst one. This is the part of the Canadian psyche I don't like: when we think of money before substance. The price tag doesn't matter, what matters is the ability to unleash ourselves from years of cultural servitude. Even if you think it's benign and harmless, I have to stare at the Queen's mug everyday on my twenty dollar bills and coins reminding myself that we are still not entirely masters of our own house.

Your thoughts?

No - Trudumb should go!
 
talloola
+2
#29
Quote: Originally Posted by Mowich View Post

How many threads do we have to have on the subject before it becomes clear that for the most part Canadians are content to have Elizabeth as our Queen. Count me among those who support the Monarchy.

yes, count me in too. many people aren't interested in our history. I am happy to be connected to the
monarchy, quite content, I like the peace, I like the class, I like the tradition, and I don't want
to just throw away all that they did to give this country a kick start, especially here in the west,
as right now we could be part of the u.s., who were not far away from working their way right up thru
our westcoast to devour it for their own. thanks to the railroad being built and brought right to our
coast to establish our presence and keep us all Canadian.


the u.s. were very reluctant to join world war 2, they were determined to stay out, the meeting that
took place in the martimes between Roosevelt and Churchill changed all of that. so many who
weren't alive at that time, ignore history and like to spout out about kicking the monarchy out,
but they don't know the facts, they don't know much of anything concerning our history.

England was in big trouble, London was being bombed, and hitler had rumbled his way through france,
and began his devastation of London, and had the u.s. 'not' joined, the outcome could of, and
most likely would have been devastating for England.

I love our history, I love my country, and I love and respect the monarchy.
 
Murphy
#30
I doubt very much whether one's lack of interest in history has much to do with getting rid of the monarchy. For most, it's a question of fair value for cost, and to a lesser degree, modernization of our government.

If you are a student of history, you will know that Canada was not legally compelled to enter WWII. The Statute of Westminster, in 1931, prevented England from ordering Canada to war. IOW, whatever Britain's Parliament decided, i.e., going to war with Germany, did not apply to the Dominion of Canada. As a result, the Canadian Parliament approved our participation.

WRT history, there is a much longer standing and more important part of it that is largely ignored. That of the aboriginal people here. We're too busy waving the Union Jack to be bothered with native bands. Although, successive Canadian governments have been more than happy to legislate the heck out of them.
 

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