Canada's New Trade Minister on Bill Maher


Glacier
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0tUrIYXjaA
 
Locutus
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Say what you want about Bill Maher

By lance on November 21, 2015 6:00 PM | 43 Comments

But he is very consistent.
"People like you are the problem." - Bill Maher to Crystia Freeland, Canada's Minister of International Trade.
And I see this is going over well in Liberal land:
Maher’s exchange with Chrystia Freeland, a member of the Canadian House of Commons, came after he opened up his program contending many of the Syrian refugees don’t share many of America’s cornerstone values.

“If you are in this religion, you probably do have values that are at odds. This is what liberals don’t want to recognize,” Maher said. “This idea that somehow we do share values that all religions are alike is bulls***.

That triggered a debate amongst Maher’s panel, but particularly seemed to offend Freeland who pushed back against the HBO host.

“Are you guys saying that the Muslim faith is by definition worse than other people’s?” she asked.

“Yes! The ideas,” Maher countered. “If 6 million people in a supposedly moderate country agree with ISIS . You know, I read this article recently — it was attacking me about my beliefs on such things. And they said, ‘Oh Bill, you paint with too broad of a brush.’ What about Indonesia? The moderate country of Indonesia. And then they went on to say, only 18 percent believe in honor killings.’ Really? So one out of five people in the moderate country your holding up as the moderate country believes if a woman is raped we blame and kill her?”
(...)

"You’re saying their ideas are bad?” a seemingly offended Freeland asked.

“Killing women for being raped I would say is a bad idea. Yeah, I do,” Maher fired back as the audience erupted in applause. “Hang me for it.”

WATCH: Bill Maher tells Chrystia Freeland: "This idea that somehow we do share values, that all religions are alike, is bulls***.ā€¯ - The Rebel

this is the sort of arrogant shrill shrew that will help derail shiny pony.
 
CDNBear
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Bwaaahahaha!!! She got pwned.
 
B00Mer
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Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear View Post

Bwaaahahaha!!! She got pwned.

I sure would like to see better from Canada's leaders.
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

I sure would like to see better from Canada's leaders.

That's what you get when you higher by quota, instead of merit.

But to be honest, I bet the whole caucus is just that dumb. I know their supporters are. Look at the Fluffer, he can't grasp the difference between Organized religion and people.
 
Glacier
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First comment on the Youtube video:

"As an Egyptian Christian who grew up in the Arab world I want to applaud Bill Maher.

Yes, not all Muslims are bad. We had great friends who were Muslims. We also had friends as a kid who couldn't hang out with us anymore because their dad told them "not to hang out with Christians". We had to memorize the Koran in school. My mom was called a ***** in the street several times for not covering her hair.

There are many good Muslims out there, especially in the West. But the culture in the Arab world IS undeniably different from that of the West and to think otherwise is totally naive and ignorant. I wish I could hang out with our Canadian trade minister who was on this show making a fool of herself and all Canadians and tell her my story."
 
taxslave
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Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear View Post

That's what you get when you higher by quota, instead of merit.

But to be honest, I bet the whole caucus is just that dumb. I know their supporters are. Look at the Fluffer, he can't grasp the difference between Organized religion and people.

But merit is no longer PC. Since stupid people make up a sizable % of the population they too are entitled to equal representation.
 
AnnaG
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Quote: Originally Posted by Glacier View Post

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0tUrIYXjaA

Meh This Chrystia person is operating with the typical fuzzy and cute but naive mentality of ideologues.

Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear View Post

That's what you get when you higher by quota, instead of merit.

But to be honest, I bet the whole caucus is just that dumb. I know their supporters are. Look at the Fluffer, he can't grasp the difference between Organized religion and people.

Birds of a fluff flock together?
 
mentalfloss
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She held her own pretty well.

The other guys are stuck at focusing on the minority of extremists but didn't provide any compelling suggestions on how to reduce that extremism.

Also, percentages are more important than numbers.

If the worst country only has 8% of extremists (which is debatably lower), then this truly is an inconsequential thing to be concerned with.

And you can see that in the current response to Paris as well.

10 years ago we would have declared war on Assad but we learned from Iraq and Afghanistan and we're doing the smarter tactic of taking in refugees instead.

We're on the cusp of a major shift in international dogma wherein diplomacy and accepting migrants actually compromises the aim of terrorists.
 
darkbeaver
Republican
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What was a Canadian member of Parliament doing on US prime time comedy/agitprop TV?
 
Cannuck
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Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver View Post

What was a Canadian member of Parliament doing on US prime time comedy/agitprop TV?

Embarrassing herself
 
darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck View Post

Embarrassing herself


And this country which is a bit more important. Trudeau better get grip on his party.
 
Cannuck
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post


If the worst country only has 8% of extremists (which is debatably lower), then this truly is an inconsequential thing to be concerned with...

I would say that 8% of Indonesia's population being extremists would not be inconsequential.
 
B00Mer
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God, I just sat through the whole hour long Bill Maher TV show, not just the 7 minutes posted here.. what a useless stupid Bitch.

I love the part where she says; "The Liberals won with a landslide victory in Canada."



Maher actually had to explain to her that stoning rape victims was a bad thing.

This is the irrational, directionless, unthinking, completely indiscriminate mess that the Liberal Party has become.


...
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Angstrom
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

She held her own pretty well.

The other guys are stuck at focusing on the minority of extremists but didn't provide any compelling suggestions on how to reduce that extremism.

Also, percentages are more important than numbers.

If the worst country only has 8% of extremists (which is debatably lower), then this truly is an inconsequential thing to be concerned with.

And you can see that in the current response to Paris as well.

10 years ago we would have declared war on Assad but we learned from Iraq and Afghanistan and we're doing the smarter tactic of taking in refugees instead.

We're on the cusp of a major shift in international dogma wherein diplomacy and accepting migrants actually compromises the aim of terrorists.

If our own culture was outgrowing and out populating their culture I would agree with you. Unfortunately it is not.
Normally accepting migrants will work. Unfortunately we have a very mediocre growth at the moment and that is the real problem that's going to hurt us in this strategy.
 
waldo
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Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver View Post

What was a Canadian member of Parliament doing on US prime time comedy/agitprop TV?

she's a long-standing media player - Freeland Media appearances (per wiki):

Freeland appeared several times as a panelist on Real Time with Bill Maher between 2010 and 2015. She has also appeared on The McLaughlin Group, The Dylan Ratigan Show, Imus in the Morning, Fareed Zakaria GPS, and The Colbert Report. She is a frequent guest on public radio's political debate program Left, Right & Center, produced by KCRW. In addition, Freeland was featured on a panel discussion on Tom Ashbrook's On Point regarding inequality and democracy in the United States. In June 2013 she gave a speech at the TED Talks, speaking on the subjects of economic inequality, plutocracy, globalization, and "the growing gap between the working poor and the increasingly disconnected mega-rich."

Quote: Originally Posted by Angstrom View Post

If our own culture was outgrowing and out populating their culture I would agree with you. Unfortunately it is not.
Normally accepting migrants will work. Unfortunately we have a very mediocre growth at the moment and that is the real problem that's going to hurt us in this strategy.

of course... one of the rationale's used by government's (including the Harper Conservative government) for increasing immigration rates is the low/declining birth rate of, as Stephen Harper labeled them, "old stock Canadians"... someone has to pay for those social contracts, hey!

Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

She held her own pretty well.

The other guys are stuck at focusing on the minority of extremists but didn't provide any compelling suggestions on how to reduce that extremism.

you could simply chalk it up to being just an extension of the same ole anti-religion shtick of (atheist) Maher... except Maher shows his true colours too often. He's been called out for exactly what he is in regards to his so-called "liberal views" towards Muslims... Maher's clearly unsophisticated in his broad-brush application of extremism to all Muslims. Popular/well-known "religious scholar" Reza Aslan captures it succinctly within the following video... while also taking down a couple of CNN talking-heads for their same tactics:


Reza Aslan Slams Bill Maher
 
DaSleeper
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Keep pretending she didn't loose the argument......you might even believe it some day...
But nobody else will.....except maybe the other Trudeau fluffer, Mentalfluff!
 
Dixie Cup
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Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck View Post

I would say that 8% of Indonesia's population being extremists would not be inconsequential.


Especially to Indonesia!
 
Jinentonix
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Quote:

We're on the cusp of a major shift in international dogma wherein diplomacy and accepting migrants actually compromises the aim of terrorists.

I find it distressing that you actually believe that crap. Show me the empirical proof of this concept.
 
Glacier
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Quote: Originally Posted by waldo View Post

you could simply chalk it up to being just an extension of the same ole anti-religion shtick of (atheist) Maher... except Maher shows his true colours too often. He's been called out for exactly what he is in regards to his so-called "liberal views" towards Muslims... Maher's clearly unsophisticated in his broad-brush application of extremism to all Muslims. Popular/well-known "religious scholar" Reza Aslan captures it succinctly within the following video... while also taking down a couple of CNN talking-heads for their same tactics:

Reza Aslan has absolutely no credibility. He is an Islamic supremacist lying scumbag. Using what he said as a defense is accepting the words of a pathological liar as truth.

https://richarddawkins.net/2014/10/t...ogist-mindset/
On the Mechanics of Defamation: Sam Harris
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJGRsLbBf_k
 
waldo
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Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post

Keep pretending she didn't loose the argument......you might even believe it some day...
But nobody else will.....except maybe the other Trudeau fluffer, Mentalfluff!

such sad lil' fackers... always the need to come up with variations on the esteemed CC member 'mentalfloss' name! Clearly... the guy has rustled too many of your jimmies!

Quote: Originally Posted by Glacier View Post

Reza Aslan has absolutely no credibility. He is an Islamic supremacist lying scumbag. Using what he said as a defense is accepting the words of a pathological liar as truth.

imagine that... you found 2 more atheists, coupled with atheist Maher, to pronounce your "lying scumbag... pathological liar" screech!
 
B00Mer
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The dummest bitch in Canada.

She is an embarrassment to this country.

Brown her noseing and kissingTrudeau's A$$.!
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

The dummest bitch in Canada.

Don't be silly. She's a distant second to you.
 
AnnaG
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Quote: Originally Posted by waldo View Post

such sad lil' fackers... always the need to come up with variations on the esteemed CC member 'mentalfloss' name! Clearly... the guy has rustled too many of your jimmies!

... or is just a bit of tired, old, redundant rhetoric-spewing partisan.

Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

The dummest bitch in Canada.

She is an embarrassment to this country.

Brown her noseing and kissingTrudeau's A$$.!

What the hell is that "brown her noseing"?
 
Glacier
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Quote: Originally Posted by waldo View Post

imagine that... you found 2 more atheists, coupled with atheist Maher, to pronounce your "lying scumbag... pathological liar" screech!

Well that's because when I used Christians who refute his obvious falsehoods people say, "imagine that... you found a couple of Christians saying that."

Maybe you should ignore who is saying what, and actually focus on what they're saying.
 
B00Mer
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Quote: Originally Posted by AnnaG View Post

What the hell is that "brown her noseing"?

WTF are you a Grammar Nazi now?

Brown nosing.
 
AnnaG
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Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

WTF are you a Grammar Nazi now?

Brown nosing.

You are not supposed to be texting while driving, son.
 
Dixie Cup
Conservative
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

She held her own pretty well.

The other guys are stuck at focusing on the minority of extremists but didn't provide any compelling suggestions on how to reduce that extremism.

Also, percentages are more important than numbers.

If the worst country only has 8% of extremists (which is debatably lower), then this truly is an inconsequential thing to be concerned with.

And you can see that in the current response to Paris as well.

10 years ago we would have declared war on Assad but we learned from Iraq and Afghanistan and we're doing the smarter tactic of taking in refugees instead.

We're on the cusp of a major shift in international dogma wherein diplomacy and accepting migrants actually compromises the aim of terrorists.



You're kidding right? Please, tell me you're kidding. Taking refugees compromises the terrorists? They're laughing like hell at us 'cuz we're too stupid to know whether any of their buddies are one of the refugees. And while you may think "only" 8% of a country's citizens are extremists (likely higher in my estimation but even if you're correct) 1 - just 1 or 2 people can do a lot of damage as was proven in California recently.


We simply cannot be blinded by good ol' idealism; I am certainly not saying that we shouldn't take refugees - I am saying, however, that we can take ISIS or whatever they want to call themselves, at face value - they mean what they say. I find it extremely frustrating that various governments aren't taking them seriously. Or, to be more blunt - open the door but watch who you let into your house. That's all I'm saying and if that's being a bigot or racist or whatever, I wear that banner proudly.


JMHO
 
damngrumpy
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This is not as simple as one thinks. No the East and the West have very different lifestyles
and beliefs. There are many who are good Muslims and Good Christians and so on but
there are others in all different groups who are not.
This program of course is one where people come on and express personal opinions as
an entertainment venue. Hardly a serious news program.
Then we get to liberal or conservative logic. Some claim liberal logic is no good or stupid.
Well we just went through ten years of conservative logic that when tallied together proved
seventy percent didn't agree with. The conservative logic concept was kicked to the curb in
favor of something else. Hey look at what is happening most people agree to bring refugees.
The young people the ones conservatives need for the future are taking a different position.
I do not mind debate it is good to debate issues and concepts however when all there is is a
belittling of someone Else's opinion there isn't much substance there either.
 

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