Thuggery of the Left


Serryah
#601
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Agreed, but all Antifa are progs.


If they were progressives, they wouldn't be Anarchists. The two are not the same.
 
Walter
+3
#602
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

If they were progressives, they wouldn't be Anarchists. The two are not the same.

You don’t know yer histry.
 
Hoid
#603
racist questions your historical grounding.

historically a "prog' is anyone a racist wants to call one.

Like an N word.
 
Serryah
#604
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

You don’t know yer histry.


So are all Alt-Right fascists then?
 
Walter
+1
#605
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

So are all Alt-Right fascists then?

Nope.
 
Serryah
-1
#606
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Nope.


By your methodology, they are.


But you say they aren't - why aren't they?
 
Hoid
#607
ya Walter is not really about to argue with anyone about anything.

he is more the single word observational racist.

the more he says the easier it is to see what an idiot he is.
 
Walter
+2
#608
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

By your methodology, they are.
But you say they aren't - why aren't they?

What methodology? Use a dictionary to find out what a fascist is.
 
Danbones
+1
#609
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

ya Walter is not really about to argue with anyone about anything.
he is more the single word observational racist.
the more he says the easier it is to see what an idiot he is.

You lye a lot... like the way hitlary bleached her hard drives.
 
Serryah
#610
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

What methodology? Use a dictionary to find out what a fascist is.


I did. Even posted what they are here.


Fascism is an extreme right wing belief.


Alt-Right is extreme right wing beliefs.


Ergo, the Alt Right are fascists.



Even some Right wing types are fascists.
 
Walter
+2 / -1
#611
Fascism is not right wing and what is alt-right.
 
Serryah
#612
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Fascism is not right wing and what is alt-right.


Willful ignorance isn't becoming, Walter.


"Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of radical right-wing , authoritarian ultranationalism [1] [2] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy[3] which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.[4] The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I, before spreading to other European countries.[4] Opposed to liberalism, Marxism and anarchism, fascism is placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum.[4] [5]"

You know what alt-right is. Don't be so effin stupid.
 
Walter
+2
#613
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

Willful ignorance isn't becoming, Walter.
"Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of radical right-wing , authoritarian ultranationalism [1] [2] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy[3] which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.[4] The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I, before spreading to other European countries.[4] Opposed to liberalism, Marxism and anarchism, fascism is placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum.[4] [5]"
You know what alt-right is. Don't be so effin stupid.

fascism noun
fas·​cism | \ ˈfa-ˌshi-zəm also ˈfa-ˌsi- \
Definition of fascism
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
early instances of army fascism and brutality
— J. W. Aldridge
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

No mention of wing, just gubmint control.
 
Hoid
#614
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

Willful ignorance isn't becoming, Walter.


"Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of radical right-wing , authoritarian ultranationalism [1] [2] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy[3] which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.[4] The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I, before spreading to other European countries.[4] Opposed to liberalism, Marxism and anarchism, fascism is placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum.[4] [5]"

You know what alt-right is. Don't be so effin stupid.

pretty sure you are starting to appreciate just how thick he really really is.
 
taxslave
+2
#615
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

Willful ignorance isn't becoming, Walter.
"Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of radical right-wing , authoritarian ultranationalism [1] [2] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy[3] which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.[4] The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I, before spreading to other European countries.[4] Opposed to liberalism, Marxism and anarchism, fascism is placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum.[4] [5]"
You know what alt-right is. Don't be so effin stupid.

THat description sounds exactly like the extreme left. DO you realize it is only far left countries that have fences to keep the citizens in?
 
taxslave
+2
#616
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

fascism noun
fas·​cism | \ ˈfa-ˌshi-zəm also ˈfa-ˌsi- \
Definition of fascism
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
early instances of army fascism and brutality
— J. W. Aldridge
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism
No mention of wing, just gubmint control.

SOunds like comunism. AKA Extreme left.
 
Curious Cdn
+1 / -1
#617
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

SOunds like comunism. AKA Extreme left.

Probably. Extreme Right usually includes exterminations of whole ethnic categories.
 
Serryah
#618
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

pretty sure you are starting to appreciate just how thick he really really is.


Sadly I 'appreciated it' a while ago, but this is really deep.



It should scare me, only it doesn't. He's pitiful more than anything, and sad.
 
Serryah
-1
#619
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

fascism noun
fas·​cism | \ ˈfa-ˌshi-zəm also ˈfa-ˌsi- \
Definition of fascism
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
early instances of army fascism and brutality
— J. W. Aldridge
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

No mention of wing, just gubmint control.


Oi...


Strain some more, Walter; you just might be able to shit out some sense yet.


See, Walter, there's a difference between the two of us.



You won't ever, ever accept any definition that puts fascism as right-wing alt-right. That's proven just by this convo alone.


But I WILL accept that there are alt-left/radical left morons in ANTIFA. I just don't see all libs - or progressives - as ANTIFA.


Nor do I think all right wing are fascists, or all alt-right.


Matter of fact, I hate throwing the word Nazi and Fascist around period. It's overused, it's twisted the real meanings of them and it's now an excuse to label people to hate.
 
Serryah
#620
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

THat description sounds exactly like the extreme left. DO you realize it is only far left countries that have fences to keep the citizens in?


I think fascism can apply to both extreme ends, depending on how you look at the definition. Certainly you can make explanations to why fascism is extreme left or right.


That much I'll admit.


Actually think this might be the best source of what it is and the back and forth between fascism and nazism/communism, etc.


https://www.britannica.com/topic/fascism
 
Serryah
#621
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Probably. Extreme Right usually includes exterminations of whole ethnic categories.


It's one reason why I don't like using fascism and nazism and all that BS.



It is possible to find examples at both political ends, depending on your own personal stance politically. I think a centrist will see fascism and nazism on both sides of the spectrum but the more you go one way or the other, the more you tilt towards the opposite side being either/or.
 
taxslave
+2 / -1
#622
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

It's one reason why I don't like using fascism and nazism and all that BS.
It is possible to find examples at both political ends, depending on your own personal stance politically. I think a centrist will see fascism and nazism on both sides of the spectrum but the more you go one way or the other, the more you tilt towards the opposite side being either/or.

When you get right down to it there really isn't much difference in thought process between extreme right and extreme left.
Even the terms right and left are subject to abuse and missrepresentation. For example I am a fiscal conservative but I have no use for the religious wing nuts that are called social conservatives. At the same time I have zero tolorance for the extreme left that want to destroy our way of life. Or demand that someone else pay for their lifestyle which I guess is partly fiscal conservatism. I'm not against a social safety net, just the abuse of it.
 
JLM
#623
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

When you get right down to it there really isn't much difference in thought process between extreme right and extreme left.
Even the terms right and left are subject to abuse and missrepresentation. For example I am a fiscal conservative but I have no use for the religious wing nuts that are called social conservatives. At the same time I have zero tolorance for the extreme left that want to destroy our way of life. Or demand that someone else pay for their lifestyle which I guess is partly fiscal conservatism. I'm not against a social safety net, just the abuse of it.


Sounds about right as long as they don't pay capable people who refuse to work. Vernon is overwhelmed with slobs and troublemakers who have no respect for people's property or safety or well being and yet the f**Kers are drawing welfare and the bleeding hearts encourage it. I have no problem with someone who is down on their luck but at least makes an effort and is respectful.
 
petros
+3
#624
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

If you read my response, you'd see that I DON'T consider all the right or even all the alt-right neo-fascists. I said if we went by Walter's rules, then alt-right are neo-fascists.
My definition of alt-right? Anarchists who want to change things with violence who have extreme right views like racial superiority, religious superiority and regressive ideologies like a 'woman's place' and are isolationists. Who believe conspiracy theories are more real than reality. Who would love to see their country become a dictatorship rather than democratic.
So I guess the same in general (being Anarchists), but just the extreme right (KKK, Alex Jones types, Evangelical Christians/Muslims/Jews).
That said, I also do NOT broad brush everyone who is right leaning into neo-fascists/alt-right. There are republican types/conservative types who aren't, and though some right leaning people might march and the neo-fascists might join their march, that doesn't make all of them neo-fascists.

You're confused.
 
Twin_Moose
+1
#625
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

When you get right down to it there really isn't much difference in thought process between extreme right and extreme left.
Even the terms right and left are subject to abuse and missrepresentation. For example I am a fiscal conservative but I have no use for the religious wing nuts that are called social conservatives. At the same time I have zero tolorance for the extreme left that want to destroy our way of life. Or demand that someone else pay for their lifestyle which I guess is partly fiscal conservatism. I'm not against a social safety net, just the abuse of it.

I agree the extreme fringes wherever they are placed on the spectrum is all about controlling the population as a whole, and not conducive to the rights and freedoms that we would like to enjoy. Keep Gov. out of my life and pocketbook, help pay for basic human rights, and services, help people back on their feet if they stumble.

I would like to add nobody in our society is more entitled to anything more than the next, no matter religion, colour, race, old stock, new stock, native, immigrant or language.
 
petros
#626
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

I agree the extreme fringes wherever they are placed on the spectrum is all about controlling the population as a whole, and not conducive to the rights and freedoms that we would like to enjoy. Keep Gov. out of my life and pocketbook, help pay for basic human rights, and services, help people back on their feet if they stumble.
I would like to add nobody in our society is more entitled to anything more than the next, no matter religion, colour, race, old stock, new stock, native, immigrant or language.

You're a racist.
 

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