Killing Khashoggi .. American work


spilledthebeer
#31
Quote: Originally Posted by Torch light View Post

Wicked Zionists hate the Arab .. and everything related to the Arab .. they hate the camel .. so what's the fault of the camel that God created it for the desert particularly in the Arab land. And you are ignorant about your grandfathers and their way of living.
Therefore, keep hating the camel; the camel does not bother about the Wicked Zionists
In fact, God forbade eating the camel meat for Jews as a penalty for their transgression and evil manners,
but God did not forbid for Muslims the eating of its delicious meat and the drinking of its milk (which has a salt taste)
It is pure and good and wholesome.
They are prevented from its delicious meat, forbidden for Jews, but lawful for Muslims.
See how the camel scorns the Zionists

Quran 88: 17, which means:
(Do they not consider how the camel is [wisely] created!? a)
.................................................. .....
17 a They move in the desert, grazing on the thorn instead of the grass, and can forbear being without water for ten days in summer and for forty days in winter. And they carry loads and walk on the sand.
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/88.htm#a88_17
quran-ayat.com/pret/88.htm#a88_17


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WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Torch light IS EVEN DELUDED ABOUT HIS QURAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Better run and check the early pages - in which Muhamed PROHIBITED Muslims from eating Camel flesh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And He also prohibited Muslims from eating Rabbits.........God alone knows why!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Later in the Quran there are reports of Muhamed and other senior Imams eating Camel flesh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And there is a piece about how Muhamed happily accepted the gift of a haunch of Rabbit and ate it with enjoyment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


SUCH A SINNER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Or maybe Muhamed is a little bit ABSENT MINDED and FORGOT about not eating Rabbits and Camels????????????


Poor stupid Muslims focus on the irrelevant and the foolish while their world crumbles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
coldstream
#32
Iran is one of Trump's blindspots. There is absolutely no advantage to America siding with the criminal regime in Saudi Arabia (and its murderous and tyrannical Crown Prince), which is a far more virulent proponent of Terrorism, and Islamic infiltration, of the West through it Wahabee Sect than is Iran.

It comes down to Jared Kushner and Benjamin Netanyahu.. and to the rabid support of Israel by prophetic Evangelicals in the States. Netanyahu considers Iran an existential threat to his vision of a 'Greater Israel' and Kushner is his dutiful Zionist soldier. Trump really just follows the conservative weathervane on the issue.
Last edited by coldstream; Nov 5th, 2018 at 02:13 PM..
 
MHz
#33
He apparently knows what side of the bread is buttered. You seem to know the enemy well, somebody give you them words?
 
Gilgamesh
#34
Quote: Originally Posted by Torch light View Post

Wicked Zionists hate the Arab .. and everything related to the Arab .. they hate the camel .. so what's the fault of the camel that God created it for the desert particularly in the Arab land. And you are ignorant about your grandfathers and their way of living.
Therefore, keep hating the camel; the camel does not bother about the Wicked Zionists
In fact, God forbade eating the camel meat for Jews as a penalty for their transgression and evil manners,
but God did not forbid for Muslims the eating of its delicious meat and the drinking of its milk (which has a salt taste)
It is pure and good and wholesome.
They are prevented from its delicious meat, forbidden for Jews, but lawful for Muslims.
See how the camel scorns the Zionists

Quran 88: 17, which means:
(Do they not consider how the camel is [wisely] created!? a)
.................................................. .....
17 a They move in the desert, grazing on the thorn instead of the grass, and can forbear being without water for ten days in summer and for forty days in winter. And they carry loads and walk on the sand.
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/88.htm#a88_17
quran-ayat.com/pret/88.htm#a88_17

Actually DNA, genetics, & fossils show the camel originated in polar climates. Another proof religion is crap.
 
MHz
#35
The Bible is a pretty decent book if you take the literalist version.


Isa:34:7:
And the unicorns shall come down with them,
and the bullocks with the bulls;
and their land shall be soaked with blood,
and their dust made fat with fatness.

That applies to all the animals that have been sacrificed, what was killed in the verse if the clean cleash was only started after the flood?

Ge:3:21:
Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins,
and clothed them.

Ge:4:4:
And Abel,
he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof.
And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering:
 
spilledthebeer
#36
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

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WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Torch light IS EVEN DELUDED ABOUT HIS QURAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Better run and check the early pages - in which Muhamed PROHIBITED Muslims from eating Camel flesh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And He also prohibited Muslims from eating Rabbits.........God alone knows why!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Later in the Quran there are reports of Muhamed and other senior Imams eating Camel flesh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And there is a piece about how Muhamed happily accepted the gift of a haunch of Rabbit and ate it with enjoyment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


SUCH A SINNER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Or maybe Muhamed is a little bit ABSENT MINDED and FORGOT about not eating Rabbits and Camels????????????


Poor stupid Muslims focus on the irrelevant and the foolish while their world crumbles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And NOW Torch light is telling us Jews HATE Camels as much as they hate Arabs?



That is an ODD THING to say!!!!!!!!!!!!


If Jews are so disdainful of Arabs then why are Jews spending holiday time and holiday cash in Egyptian resorts on the Red Sea?


AS for Camels- bunch of them were imported to the British Columbia Cariboo Country to haul food into the gold rush town of Barkerville!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The camels upset all the horses and mules being used and the number of people skilled in handling camels is small in Canada so the camels were got rid of!


Apparently Cdns dont like camels any more than Jews?
 
Walter
+1
#37
New Details Ruin Khashoggi Hero Story
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb...ggi-hero-story

Yep.
 
Danbones
#38
kash out oggi

thats when I dumped the last of my oil holdings for now.

Might buy at the bottom again though.
 
Gilgamesh
+1
#39
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

So the jews killed that arab.

Is that the what happened?

Evidently so. A bunch of Jews became Saudi citizens in order to pass security checks when they joined the Saudi secret police.

They had all taken secret courses on how to murder a grown man, since the Saudis only studied how to torture and kill innocent civilians, mainly girls & women.

So on that fateful day the Jewish spies conned the Saudi govt into sending them to Turkey to kill Khashoggi.

Mah God suh, these Jews are clever.

And If you believe the above; get mental help ASAP,
 
spilledthebeer
#40
Quote: Originally Posted by Gilgamesh View Post

Evidently so. A bunch of Jews became Saudi citizens in order to pass security checks when they joined the Saudi secret police.

They had all taken secret courses on how to murder a grown man, since the Saudis only studied how to torture and kill innocent civilians, mainly girls & women.

So on that fateful day the Jewish spies conned the Saudi govt into sending them to Turkey to kill Khashoggi.

Mah God suh, these Jews are clever.

And If you believe the above; get mental help ASAP,


My response to all this Kashoggi stuff is the next best thing to a YAWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I dont know the guy or his writing but as the poet said, "the death of one diminishes us all' ...........or words to that effect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



However THERE IS A LARGER STORY that is being IGNORED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !


How is it that Cdn media can tie itself in knots over the death of Kashoggi......................and then IGNORE ALL the vicious crap going on in China????????????????????????


THE LIE-BERAL FIX IS IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our idiot Boy MUST BE PROTECTED form his own big mouth by news media WHORES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


How is it that Pierre Trudeau can heap praise on Chairman Mao "for his genius in rushing 30 million Chinese to the gallows" in an EPIC DISPLAY of mass murder????????


And the media is SILENT??????????????????????


Our idiot Boy can tell us "he likes the way the Chinese get things done"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And the media whores are silent about Chinese repression of Tibetans, of religious minorities such as Christians and Muslims and Chinese slave labourers and callous abuse of political dissidents??????????????????


And when Our idiot Boy snubs our Yankee allies and tries to suck up to China, our news whores applaud this LIE-beral show of so called Cdn "independence"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!


And when Our idiot Boy finds himself stuck between the rock and the hard place- meaning what to do about that Huawei CEO passing freely through Canada even though WE HAVE an extradition treaty with Yankees...................


And apparently China sees LIE-beral Canada as so morally LIMP, so cravenly cowardly seeking Chinese approval; that the Huawei



CEO simply assumes Cdns WOULD NEVER HONOUR the extradition treaty with Yankees!!!!!!!!!!



And when Our idiot Boy DOES tell the cops to arrest the Huawei ceo, our media whores whine about how we have become lap dogs to the Yankees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


What it comes down to is that way too many of our media whores HAVE FORGOTTEN who our BETTER friends are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The media whores have DELIBERATELY FORGOTTEN the murderous excesses of Chinese and Russian dictators and North Korean dictators, forgotten the murderous religious fanatics leading the Iranian govt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And What does this have to do with the Saudis??????????????????


Our media whores and our LIE-beral overlords HAVE NO PROBLEM sucking up to Chinese leaders who are drenched in blood........


And yet they are outraged that the Saudis would dare murder one news media guy in a rather public way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I do not say the Saudis were right in their behaviour!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I do not say they are saints.........................nor are they even likable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!


But we CAN DEAL much more easily with Saudis than with the Chinese, North Koreans. Iranians, or Cubans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And yes- Canada DESERVES to have a FULLY MADE IN CANADA foreign affairs policy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Sadly- Cdn LIE-berals are regressing back to the Pierre Trudeau Cold War Soviet sponsored propaganda that the Yankees are the cause of all world trouble and THAT IS A TRUDEAU LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Snubbing Yankees for fun and for shameless virtue signalling as Our idiot Boy so often does, IS NOT a useful Cdn foreign policy platform- as the NAFTA tariffs PROVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Snubbing Yankees and refusing to make honest judgements about the RELATIVE levels of behaviour of various other nations we deal with is EXTREME LIE-beral bigotry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Currently the ONLY local govt in Middle East that is opposing Iranian subversive operations in that part of the world are the Saudis!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The Saudis are NOT nice people ....................but compared to the alternatives..............Saudis are BETTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


A whole lot of leftist people cheered Richard Nixon when he made that first trip to RED CHINA in an attempt to engage them in trade and dialogue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And Our idiot Boy is now sucking up to China for his own foolish reasons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So WHY is it that LIE-berals can suck up to all manner of LEFTIST anti Yankee DESPOTS.......................and then SCORN the PRO WESTERN DESPOTS of Saudi Arabia?????????????????????????????


Unless of course Our idiot Boy is exactly the sort of aspiring Soviet dictator that an examination of his family history indicates he is!!!!!!!!!!!


The BIG QUESTION is this: would Canada be better off or worse off if Iran conquered the Middle East- and used nuclear weapons to destroy Israel???????????????????????


And would we be better off if the Saudi backed govt of Yemen managed to defeat the Iranian backed REBELS trying to take over in Yemen?????????????????????


If the Saudis got a nuclear weapon what would they do with it other than store it away some place secure?????????????????


If Iran got a nuclear weapon then how long before the mad dog Ayatollahs used it for the Glory of Allah and tried to destroy Israel???????????????



In a world of ugly choices- the Saudis and Yankees ARE easier to work with!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
spaminator
#41
Evidence suggests Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman liable for Khashoggi murder: UN expert
Reuters
Published:
June 19, 2019
Updated:
June 19, 2019 9:40 AM EDT
Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman waits for the family photo during the G20 summit in Buenos Aires, Argentina on Nov. 30, 2018.Andres Martinez Casares / Reuters / Pool / Files
GENEVA — Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman and other senior Saudi officials should be investigated over the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi since there is credible evidence they are liable for his death, a U.N. rights investigator said on Wednesday.
There was no immediate response from the Saudi government communications office, but the kingdom has regularly denied accusations that the prince was involved. Riyadh was sent the 100-page report some three weeks in advance.
Khashoggi’s killing provoked widespread revulsion and tarnished the image of the Crown Prince, previously admired in the West for pushing deep changes including tax reform, infrastructure projects and allowing women to drive.
Agnes Callamard, the U.N. special rapporteur on extrajudicial executions, called on countries to invoke universal jurisdiction for what she called the international crime and make arrests if individuals’ responsibility is proven.
She also urged countries to widen sanctions to include the Crown Prince, who many consider the kingdom’s de facto ruler, and his personal assets abroad, until and unless he can prove he has no responsibility.
Agnes Callamard, United Nation special rapporteur on extrajudicial, summary or arbitrary executions, answers questions on a report of the killing of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi on Wednesday, June 19, 2019 in Geneva. Fabrice Coffrini / AFP / Getty Images
Khashoggi, a critic of the prince and a Washington Post columnist, was last seen at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul on Oct 2 where he was to receive papers ahead of his wedding.
His body was dismembered and removed from the building, the Saudi prosecutor has said, and his remains have not been found.
“It is the conclusion of the Special Rapporteur that Mr. Khashoggi has been the victim of a deliberate, premeditated execution, an extrajudicial killing for which the state of Saudi Arabia is responsible under international human rights law,” Callamard said in her report based on a six-month investigation.
The Saudi public prosecutor indicted 11 unnamed suspects in November, including five who could face the death penalty on charges of ordering and committing the crime.
Callamard said the Saudi trial should be suspended, citing concerns over secret hearings and a potential miscarriage of justice.
The CIA and some Western countries believe the Crown Prince ordered the killing, which Saudi officials deny.
The U.N. report publishes excerpts from what it calls conversations inside the consulate shortly before Khashoggi arrived at the building and during his final moments, in which a Saudi official is heard discussing cutting a body into pieces.
The material relies on recordings and forensic work by Turkish investigators and information from the trials of the suspects in Saudi Arabia, the report said. Callamard said that she could not reach firm conclusions about what the team was told was the sound of a “saw” in the operation.
Callamard went to Turkey earlier this year with a team of forensic and legal experts and said she received evidence from Turkish authorities.
“There is credible evidence, warranting further investigation of high-level Saudi officials’ individual liability, including the Crown Prince’s,” she said.
“Indeed, this human rights inquiry has shown that there is sufficient credible evidence regarding the responsibility of the Crown Prince demanding further investigation,” she added, urging U.N. Secretary-General to establish an international probe.
Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said Turkey strongly endorsed the U.N.’s recommendations regarding Khashoggi’s murder.
Asked if universal jurisdiction meant potential arrests abroad of suspects, Callamard told reporters: “If and when the responsibility of those individuals has been proven, including the responsibilities of a level that warrant arrest, absolutely.”
Judicial authorities in countries that recognize universal jurisdiction for serious offenses can investigate and prosecute those crimes no matter where they were committed.
U.S. pushes for Saudi ‘tangible’ progress on Khashoggi probe
Khashoggi’s fiancee could also have been a victim: Police report
Saudis insist Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman had no role in Khashoggi killing
http://torontosun.com/news/world/evi...rder-un-expert
 
spilledthebeer
#42
Quote: Originally Posted by coldstream View Post

Iran is one of Trump's blindspots. There is absolutely no advantage to America siding with the criminal regime in Saudi Arabia (and its murderous and tyrannical Crown Prince), which is a far more virulent proponent of Terrorism, and Islamic infiltration, of the West through it Wahabee Sect than is Iran.

It comes down to Jared Kushner and Benjamin Netanyahu.. and to the rabid support of Israel by prophetic Evangelicals in the States. Netanyahu considers Iran an existential threat to his vision of a 'Greater Israel' and Kushner is his dutiful Zionist soldier. Trump really just follows the conservative weathervane on the issue.






HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




The "criminal regime" in Riyadh is FRIENDLY to the west...........................................


and it has made peace with the Jews



The "criminal regime" in Tehran HATES THE WEST.............................................. .......


and sponsors all manner of terrorist activity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!


In Syria in support of Asad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In Yemen in support of Houthy rebels trying to sabotage the govt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In the various places here PLO "fighters" and Hezzbollah terrorists gather to plot ways to drive the Jews into the sea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The regime in Riyadh wants to be left alone....................................


the regime in Tehran wants to dominate the World Wide Caliphate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



 

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