Fake Hate Crimes


Girth
#1
A thread to discuss reported hate crimes, that turn out to have been a hoax. The craze is sweeping North America, so I thought I would get ahead of the curve, and create a thread about these incidents.
 
gerryh
#2
Quote: Originally Posted by Girth View Post

A thread to discuss reported hate crimes, that turn out to have been a hoax. The craze is sweeping North America, so I thought I would get ahead of the curve, and create a thread about these incidents.


So, list them.
 
Girth
#3
Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh View Post

So, list them.

I created this thread for you, gerry.


Now, get to work.
 
gerryh
#4
I'm not the one that keeps jumping the gun and accusing people of fake reports. Obviously you think there's a shit load to be able to fill a thread up. Have at er.
 
Girth
#5
Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh View Post

I'm not the one that keeps jumping the gun and accusing people of fake reports. Obviously you think there's a shit load to be able to fill a thread up. Have at er.

Gerry, you are being difficult.
 
Girth
#6
Just for you, gerry:

http://fakehatecrimes.org/

Fake hate crimes are at epidemic levels.
 
gerryh
+1 / -1
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by Girth View Post

Just for you, gerry:
http://fakehatecrimes.org/
Fake hate crimes are at epidemic levels.

Only one is referring to anything recent and that's the noose which was determined to have been a garage door opener fairly quickly. It wasnt fake, it was there and had been for at least a year. Fake would have been bubba or one of his crew putting it up and claiming it was a statement against him. Your going to have to try a lot harder than that.
 
Dixie Cup
+4
#8  Top Rated Post
Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh View Post

Only one is referring to anything recent and that's the noose which was determined to have been a garage door opener fairly quickly. It wasnt fake, it was there and had been for at least a year. Fake would have been bubba or one of his crew putting it up and claiming it was a statement against him. Your going to have to try a lot harder than that.


Ah but you obviously didn't hear him being interviewed AFTER the FBI made the determination that there wasn't a hate crime. He was on CNN with Lemon (?) and he stated categorically that it wasn't a garage pull but a noose so he still is going around stating that it was a noose & that the FBI got it wrong!!
 
gerryh
#9
Quote: Originally Posted by Dixie Cup View Post

Ah but you obviously didn't hear him being interviewed AFTER the FBI made the determination that there wasn't a hate crime. He was on CNN with Lemon (?) and he stated categorically that it wasn't a garage pull but a noose so he still is going around stating that it was a noose & that the FBI got it wrong!!


Ya, I know. But he didn't put it there. That just proves he's as big a fear monger as the rest of you.
 
gerryh
+1
#10
I also just went through a mess of these "fake" hate crimes, did you? What did I find? More suspected than confirmed. In other words a site that does more for spreading bullshit and fear mongering than actual facts.
 
Ron in Regina
+1
#11
Does this count as a Fake Hate Crime?

http://nypost.com/2020/06/22/how-nypd-faked-shake-shack-controversy-and-conspiracy-theory/

The three cops at the center of the NYPD milkshake “poisoning” scandal never even got sick, and there wasn’t the slightest whiff of criminality from the get-go — but that didn’t stop gung-ho brass from rolling out the crime scene tape and unions from dishing out empty conspiracy theories, The Post has learned.

The fullest picture yet to emerge of the incident — which came amid fraught tensions between the police and public — is based on records and multiple interviews with police sources. The three officers were down from The Bronx, on protest duty in Lower Manhattan, on June 15 when they ordered the now-infamous mid-shift treats via a mobile app around 7:30 p.m., purchasing three shakes across two separate orders, sources said.

Their drinks were waiting for them when they arrived at the Shake Shack on the second floor of 200 Broadway a few minutes later. A female officer picked up her strawberry shake from the front counter, and her two male colleagues grabbed their cherry and vanilla drinks from a side counter, sources said.

Police sources explained it was clear that the workers couldn’t have known cops had placed the orders “since it wasn’t done in person” — and they couldn’t have dosed the drinks after the officers arrived, because they were packaged and waiting for pickup when the trio walked in.

Soon after sipping the shakes, however, the cops realized they didn’t taste or smell right, so they threw the drinks in the trash and alerted a manager, who apologized and issued them vouchers for free food or drink, which they accepted, according to sources.

But when the cops told their sergeant about the incident, the supervisor called in the Emergency Service Unit to set up a crime scene at the fast-food joint for an evidence search around 9:20 p.m. — nearly two hours after they first got the sour shakes. The three were rushed to Bellevue Hospital, where they were examined and released without ever showing symptoms, sources said.



Meanwhile, a lieutenant from the Bronx blasted out an email to the unions that six cops “started throwing up after drinking beverages they got from shake shack on 200 Broadway.” It was unclear why the sergeant and lieutenant escalated the situation. Detectives easily closed the case after interviewing five employees and reviewing surveillance footage showing the shakes were made normally, sources said. The machine was cleaned before the officers ordered, according to sources, and it still contained residual milkstone remover — a typically acidic solution used to combat buildup in dairy equipment.

But by 10:45 p.m., the Detectives Endowment Association was declaring that Finest had become “ill” after being “intentionally poisoned by one or more workers at the Shake Shack” — as Police Benevolent Association president Pat Lynch made a show of visiting Bellevue while his union declared at 10:47 p.m. that police officers came “under attack” from a “toxic substance, believed to be bleach.” Both messages flurried across social media, spawning a trending #BoycottShakeShack hashtag that was still being tweeted Sunday by users who appear to erroneously believe NYPD members were intentionally poisoned.

Around 3 a.m. June 16, the department was reviewing a statement on the matter, and at 4 a.m. — just over eight hours after the cops picked up their shakes — Chief of Detectives Rodney Harrison announced on Twitter that there was “no criminality.” The unions later deleted their tweets and issued statements walking back their discredited claims. Privately, they blamed the lieutenant who first raised the false alarm. That, however, didn’t stop City Council Speaker Corey Johnson (D-Manhattan) and Councilman Ritchie Torres (D-Bronx) from demanding a probe into the unions’ alleged “inflammatory” behavior. A review of the incident and how it unfolded is ongoing, according to an NYPD spokeswoman.
 
gerryh
+2
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina View Post

Does this count as a Fake Hate Crime?
http://nypost.com/2020/06/22/how-nypd-faked-shake-shack-controversy-and-conspiracy-theory/

The three cops at the center of the NYPD milkshake “poisoning” scandal never even got sick, and there wasn’t the slightest whiff of criminality from the get-go — but that didn’t stop gung-ho brass from rolling out the crime scene tape and unions from dishing out empty conspiracy theories, The Post has learned.
The fullest picture yet to emerge of the incident — which came amid fraught tensions between the police and public — is based on records and multiple interviews with police sources. The three officers were down from The Bronx, on protest duty in Lower Manhattan, on June 15 when they ordered the now-infamous mid-shift treats via a mobile app around 7:30 p.m., purchasing three shakes across two separate orders, sources said.
Their drinks were waiting for them when they arrived at the Shake Shack on the second floor of 200 Broadway a few minutes later. A female officer picked up her strawberry shake from the front counter, and her two male colleagues grabbed their cherry and vanilla drinks from a side counter, sources said.
Police sources explained it was clear that the workers couldn’t have known cops had placed the orders “since it wasn’t done in person” — and they couldn’t have dosed the drinks after the officers arrived, because they were packaged and waiting for pickup when the trio walked in.
Soon after sipping the shakes, however, the cops realized they didn’t taste or smell right, so they threw the drinks in the trash and alerted a manager, who apologized and issued them vouchers for free food or drink, which they accepted, according to sources.
But when the cops told their sergeant about the incident, the supervisor called in the Emergency Service Unit to set up a crime scene at the fast-food joint for an evidence search around 9:20 p.m. — nearly two hours after they first got the sour shakes. The three were rushed to Bellevue Hospital, where they were examined and released without ever showing symptoms, sources said.

Meanwhile, a lieutenant from the Bronx blasted out an email to the unions that six cops “started throwing up after drinking beverages they got from shake shack on 200 Broadway.” It was unclear why the sergeant and lieutenant escalated the situation. Detectives easily closed the case after interviewing five employees and reviewing surveillance footage showing the shakes were made normally, sources said. The machine was cleaned before the officers ordered, according to sources, and it still contained residual milkstone remover — a typically acidic solution used to combat buildup in dairy equipment.
But by 10:45 p.m., the Detectives Endowment Association was declaring that Finest had become “ill” after being “intentionally poisoned by one or more workers at the Shake Shack” — as Police Benevolent Association president Pat Lynch made a show of visiting Bellevue while his union declared at 10:47 p.m. that police officers came “under attack” from a “toxic substance, believed to be bleach.” Both messages flurried across social media, spawning a trending #BoycottShakeShack hashtag that was still being tweeted Sunday by users who appear to erroneously believe NYPD members were intentionally poisoned.
Around 3 a.m. June 16, the department was reviewing a statement on the matter, and at 4 a.m. — just over eight hours after the cops picked up their shakes — Chief of Detectives Rodney Harrison announced on Twitter that there was “no criminality.” The unions later deleted their tweets and issued statements walking back their discredited claims. Privately, they blamed the lieutenant who first raised the false alarm. That, however, didn’t stop City Council Speaker Corey Johnson (D-Manhattan) and Councilman Ritchie Torres (D-Bronx) from demanding a probe into the unions’ alleged “inflammatory” behavior. A review of the incident and how it unfolded is ongoing, according to an NYPD spokeswoman.

Nope, fake would have been the cops poisoning themselves and blaming it on the establishment.

Fake would be like what that black singer/rapper did. Paid someone to beat him up and blamed it on a bunch of "white" guys.
 
petros
+2
#13
Who is behind this divide and conquer shit?
 
Tecumsehsbones
#14
Jordan Edwards.
 
petros
#15
Dont be crossing Jordan?
 
Girth
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh View Post

Only one is referring to anything recent and that's the noose which was determined to have been a garage door opener fairly quickly. It wasnt fake, it was there and had been for at least a year. Fake would have been bubba or one of his crew putting it up and claiming it was a statement against him. Your going to have to try a lot harder than that.

That is essentially what he did.
 
Ron in Regina
+1
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh View Post

Nope, fake would have been the cops poisoning themselves and blaming it on the establishment.

Fake would be like what that black singer/rapper did. Paid someone to beat him up and blamed it on a bunch of "white" guys.

Would it be a fake hate crime if the Police where caught on video smashing out windows in an auto-parts store to justify the 'use of force' to stop those darn protesters from smashing out windows in an auto-parts store?

(The Dude's ex-wife may or may not have identified him): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvUe7pJVYD4

http://www.mintpressnews.com/police-deny-connection-alleged-minneapolis-umbrella-man-saboteur/268039/




Last edited by Ron in Regina; 2 weeks ago at 06:35 PM..Reason: added pic
 
gerryh
+1
#18
Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina View Post

Would it be a fake hate crime if the Police where caught on video smashing out windows in an auto-parts store to justify the 'use of force' to stop those darn protesters from smashing out windows in an auto-parts store?
(The Dude's ex-wife may or may not have identified him): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvUe7pJVYD4

http://www.mintpressnews.com/police-deny-connection-alleged-minneapolis-umbrella-man-saboteur/268039/

What's your point, Ron?
 
Ron in Regina
+1
#19
It's a thread about fake hate crimes. A hate crime (also known as a bias-motivated crime or bias crime) is a prejudice-motivated crime which occurs when a perpetrator targets a victim because of their membership (or perceived membership) of a certain social group or race. Basically a crime against someone based upon their differences to the one committing the crime.

I can't see a definition of a 'fake' hate crime. Faking a crime to justify further action against someone different than the one committing the crime (in these cases against those without badges?), would that be a hate crime? Is it really any different than what Jessie Smollett is accused of doing? That's the line I was try'n to draw.
 
gerryh
+1
#20
Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina View Post

It's a thread about fake hate crimes. A hate crime (also known as a bias-motivated crime or bias crime) is a prejudice-motivated crime which occurs when a perpetrator targets a victim because of their membership (or perceived membership) of a certain social group or race. Basically a crime against someone based upon their differences to the one committing the crime.
I can't see a definition of a 'fake' hate crime. Faking a crime to justify further action against someone different than the one committing the crime (in these cases against those without badges?), would that be a hate crime? Is it really any different than what Jessie Smollett is accused of doing? That's the line I was try'n to draw.

Ok. It just seemed like you were doing a "what about this one" kind of thing trying to catch an inconsistency based on who actually staged the crime and placed the blame. The big thing is staging the crime to blame someone else.
 
Ron in Regina
+2
#21
Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh View Post

Ok. It just seemed like you were doing a "what about this one" kind of thing trying to catch an inconsistency based on who actually staged the crime and placed the blame. The big thing is staging the crime to blame someone else.

I was doing a "what about this one" to see what stuck, and so see what the different definitions would arise for what a 'fake' hate crime would be from different posters with different points of view.
 
Walter
+1
#22
Bunch of nooses found in Toronto. All fake news hoaxes.
 
Girth
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Bunch of nooses found in Toronto. All fake news hoaxes.

link?
 
Twin_Moose
+2
#24
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Bunch of nooses found in Toronto. All fake news hoaxes.

I would agree broke into construction sites and coincidentally finding nooses at each site and reporting it as a hate crime is just to convenient IMO

Regent Park community speaks out against racism after noose found at 3rd Toronto construction site

Quote:

Community members gathered in Regent Park on Sunday evening to protest against anti-Black racism after a noose was discovered at a construction site in the area last week.

The noose, found near Dundas and Sumach streets on Friday, marks the third incident of its kind this month.

Organizers of the event — which include the Regent Park Mothers of Peace, the Regent Park Neighbourhood Association and members of the community — are pledging to "not be silent in the face of racist violence."

"It's in our backyards," organizer Sureya Ibrahim told the crowd. "Very intimidating and very sad [that] it's happening here."

"I'm not surprised, but at the same time I think the silence that's happening in this community makes me sick and we have, all of us, a privilege to do something about it." ....More

The picture in this article shows the noose hanging in an office under construction a few floors up, behind blinds, pretty hard to see from the street IMO
 
Girth
+1
#25
It has now been 6 full days since Althea Bernstein claimed to have been a victim of a racially motivated assault in Madison, WI. She claims four White frat-looking young men approached her while she was stopped at a red light at an intersection in downtown, and doused her with lighter fluid, through the open window of the vehicle, and set her on fire by throwing a lighter at her.

There has been no surveillance video of the incident, despite multiple 360 degree cameras. No composite drawings of the alleged suspects, and no witnesses despite thousands of people in the immediate vicinity protesting for Black Lives Matter.

It may be only a matter of time before the FBI announces the incident was staged, unless the media buries it.
 
gerryh
+1
#26
Quote: Originally Posted by Girth View Post

It may be only a matter of time before the FBI announces the incident was staged, unless the media buries it.

And there's his out.
 
Girth
#27
Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh View Post

And there's his out.

It's a hoax, gerry. It will be one week at 1 AM.

Deal with it.

In fact, I am so certain that the story is false, that if it turns out to be true, I will never post here again.
 
gerryh
#28
Quote: Originally Posted by Girth View Post

It's a hoax, gerry. It will be one week at 1 AM.
Deal with it.
In fact, I am so certain that the story is false, that if it turns out to be true, I will never post here again.


So it can't be deleted.
 
Girth
+1
#29
Well, it has been two weeks, and it looks like the media has buried the Althea Bernstein hoax. No news, no witnesses, nothing from the dozens of surveillance videos, nothing from the thousands of people who marched for Black Lives Matter a block away.

There is a double standard in the media today. If this had actually happened, it would have been huge news in the US, and people would have been protesting for days.
 
Girth
+1
#30
According to sources, Althea Bernstein's arrest for criminal mischief is days away. It's widely believed now that the crime was staged, and she suffered the burns at the Black Lives Matter a block or two away from the supposed attack on her. Incidentally, the young man that was part of BLM, that tried to set a building on fire twenty minutes earlier, was arrested, despite wearing all black, with a balaclava on.

The consensus among the public is Mrs.Bernstein tried to set a fire at the BLM protest near the state capital, and received either minor burns, or scrapes. She then went home, and made up the story to her parents, rather than admitting to being up to no good. The whole "four regular looking White frat boys" was concocted, to gain sympathy and to add legitimacy to the BLM movement. The media released the 911 call to Police, which was made a full 14 hours after the alleged incident.

I will update you, when an arrest is made.
 

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