Break up and remove all statues!


Torch light
#1
Statues are in fact against the God's religion and the First Commandment: Don't take any engraven statue to glorify and worship apart from God Almighty.

I asked Abu Abd-Allah about that: why should any statue be abandoned; some statues are not worshiped in fact?
He said: True, but the next generation will start to glorify such statues then to worship them.

This includes many things in fact:

>> like the statues of the Christ and his mother and of saints erected in churches and elsewhere; the Cross itself is a statue and idol (carrying the statue of the Christ hanged on it.)

>> and it includes also the constructed tombs of imams and of righteous men

>> and even the statues and tombs of non-righteous men like Linen, Mao Tse Tongue and others: people in fact glorify them so much like they worship them or more.


If such statues cannot be broken up; at least remove them to the museums, as the grand-daughter of Churchill said recently about the statue of Churchill.

http://www.quran-ayat.com/universe/i...st_Commandment
quran-ayat.com/universe/index.htm#First_Commandment
Last edited by Torch light; 4 weeks ago at 11:27 AM..
 
Blackleaf
+2
#2
As Mohammed was a slaver, and as there are no statues of him, maybe we should start pulling down mosques.
 
Ron in Regina
+1
#3
Quote: Originally Posted by Torch light View Post

Statues are in fact against the God's religion and the First Commandment: Don't take any engraven statue to glorify and worship apart from God Almighty.

I asked Abu Abd-Allah about that: why should any statue be abandoned; some statues are not worshiped in fact?
He said: True, but the next generation will start to glorify such statues then to worship them.

If such statues cannot be broken up; at least remove them to the museums, as the grand-daughter of Churchill said recently about the statue of Churchill.

http://www.quran-ayat.com/universe/i...st_Commandment
quran-ayat.com/universe/index.htm#First_Commandment

Torch light, is this not just another twisted call to have the Infidels conform to the religion that you where born into? Is this really your opinion, or what you're told your opinion is??
 
Avro52
#4
The protests to defend these statues are getting huge....



Almost as big as Trumps inauguration attendance.
 
Blackleaf
#5
Quote: Originally Posted by Avro52 View Post

The protests to defend these statues are getting huge....

Almost as big as Trumps inauguration attendance.

You should see what's going on in London.
 
spilledthebeer
+2
#6
Quote: Originally Posted by Torch light View Post

Statues are in fact against the God's religion and the First Commandment: Don't take any engraven statue to glorify and worship apart from God Almighty.

I asked Abu Abd-Allah about that: why should any statue be abandoned; some statues are not worshiped in fact?
He said: True, but the next generation will start to glorify such statues then to worship them.

This includes many things in fact:

>> like the statues of the Christ and his mother and of saints erected in churches and elsewhere; the Cross itself is a statue and idol (carrying the statue of the Christ hanged on it.)

>> and it includes also the constructed tombs of imams and of righteous men

>> and even the statues and tombs of non-righteous men like Linen, Mao Tse Tongue and others: people in fact glorify them so much like they worship them or more.


If such statues cannot be broken up; at least remove them to the museums, as the grand-daughter of Churchill said recently about the statue of Churchill.

http://www.quran-ayat.com/universe/i...st_Commandment
quran-ayat.com/universe/index.htm#First_Commandment






Poor fool!


Your sanity has been broken up intO microscopic pieces!


That WILL NEVER be re-assembled!


As for those IMBECILES attacking ChUrchill - it would be WELL TO REMEMBER what he stood against!


Under Nazi racial purity laws a blond haired, blue eyed Polish person WAS DEEMED SUB HUMAN!


In 1936 - when the Olympic Games were held in Munich - and the Yankees brought black sprinter Jesse Owens to compete


Hitler told the world that Washington "HAD INSULTED ALL WHITE PEOPLE BY BRINGING THAT BLACK ANIMAL TO COMPETE"!


Owens should have received TSO gold medals for his performance but Hitler refused to reward that "ANIMAL"!



SO - What NON WHITE NUMBSKULL thinks Hitler had ANY REDEEMING QUALITIES that would have enabled non whites



to cooperate in any serious way with Nazis?



And what IMBECILE wants to suggest we sneer at Churchill for leading the defense of all that we consider important!


Churchill is perhaps MOST FAMOUS for suggesting that "Islam in a man is a useful as Rabies in a dog"!


Considering the behaviour of Isis and Boko Haram and others such as Al QAIDA - CHURCHILL WAS RIGHT!
 
Torch light
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

As Mohammed was a slaver, and as there are no statues of him, maybe we should start pulling down mosques.

Mohammed was not a slaver, but the wars brought the captives of war, whom your people are enslaving till now.
You are very crooked and a liar to yourself before others.
Mosques are the houses of God's worship alone without associate, so I have to pull you down and all your devils: the Zionists and Satanists.
 
Torch light
#8
Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina View Post

Torch light, is this not just another twisted call to have the Infidels conform to the religion that you where born into? Is this really your opinion, or what you're told your opinion is??

My call is not twisted; the infidels are the twisted.
This is really my opinion, and all this time (years) passed but you did not understand other than only your wishful thinking.
I didn't say anything before contrary to what I am saying now.
 
Torch light
#9
Quote: Originally Posted by Avro52 View Post

The protests to defend these statues are getting huge....

Almost as big as Trumps inauguration attendance.

And you are so glad? Of course, you fear for the statues and tombs of Linen and Mao maybe.. the turn will come to them.
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Torch light
#10
Quote: Originally Posted by Torch light View Post

Mohammed was not a slaver, but the wars brought the captives of war, whom your people are enslaving till now.
You are very crooked and a liar to yourself before others.
Mosques are the houses of God's worship alone without associate, so I have to pull you down and all your devils: the Zionists and Satanists.

Who broke the statues other than Prophet Mohammed and his grandfather Prophet Abraham?
While your ancestors erected the statues and idols.

http://quran-ayat.com/conflicts/engl...ped_the_Idols_
quran-ayat.com/conflicts/english2.htm#They_Worshiped_the_Idols_
 
Blackleaf
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by Torch light View Post

Mohammed was not a slaver, but the wars brought the captives of war, whom your people are enslaving till now.

You are very crooked and a liar to yourself before others.

Mosques are the houses of God's worship alone without associate, so I have to pull you down and all your devils: the Zionists and Satanists.

The Prophet Muhammad did not try to abolish slavery, and bought, sold, captured, and owned slaves himself. But he insisted that slave owners treat their slaves well and stressed the virtue of freeing slaves.

There are two different ways of interpreting this:

* some modern writers believe that Muhammad intended his teachings to lead to the gradual end of slavery by limiting opportunities to acquire new slaves and allowing existing slaves to become free. This idea doesn't appear in early writings.

* other writers argue that by regulating slavery the Prophet gave his authority to its continued existence, and that by having slaves himself he showed his approval

https://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/relig...ery_1.shtml#h3
 
Ron in Regina
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by Torch light View Post

My call is not twisted; the infidels are the twisted.
This is really my opinion, and all this time (years) passed but you did not understand other than only your wishful thinking.
I didn't say anything before contrary to what I am saying now.

Wherever you reside, are you allowed to have an opinion different than what your current opinion is with respect to your religion?
 
Torch light
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

Poor fool!
Your sanity has been broken up intO microscopic pieces!
That WILL NEVER be re-assembled!
As for those IMBECILES attacking ChUrchill - it would be WELL TO REMEMBER what he stood against!
Under Nazi racial purity laws a blond haired, blue eyed Polish person WAS DEEMED SUB HUMAN!
In 1936 - when the Olympic Games were held in Munich - and the Yankees brought black sprinter Jesse Owens to compete
Hitler told the world that Washington "HAD INSULTED ALL WHITE PEOPLE BY BRINGING THAT BLACK ANIMAL TO COMPETE"!
Owens should have received TSO gold medals for his performance but Hitler refused to reward that "ANIMAL"!
SO - What NON WHITE NUMBSKULL thinks Hitler had ANY REDEEMING QUALITIES that would have enabled non whites
to cooperate in any serious way with Nazis?
And what IMBECILE wants to suggest we sneer at Churchill for leading the defense of all that we consider important!
Churchill is perhaps MOST FAMOUS for suggesting that "Islam in a man is a useful as Rabies in a dog"!
Considering the behaviour of Isis and Boko Haram and others such as Al QAIDA - CHURCHILL WAS RIGHT!

This is called RUBBISH.
What have we to do with Hitler or Churchill?
Did they follow Prophet Mohammed and the rest of God's messengers? No, they were disbelievers and would lose in the Next Life whether you like them or not.

And although the Nazis were infidels and disbelievers, but you Zionists are worse than Nazis with your haughtiness and transgression.
 
Torch light
#14
Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina View Post

Wherever you reside, are you allowed to have an opinion different than what your current opinion is with respect to your religion?

What's this claim, devilish one? Will my opinion be other than what I believe?
I don't allow myself to say anything in contradiction with God's religion.

My words are clearly obvious concerning the First Commandment, as it is explained in my link, and the First Commandment is nothing else than No god but only God without associate or son.

http://www.quran-ayat.com/universe/i...st_Commandment
quran-ayat.com/universe/index.htm#First_Commandment

http://www.quran-ayat.com/hour/an_ho...m_in_the_Bible
quran-ayat.com/hour/an_hour_with_ghosts.htm#About_the_monotheism_in_th e_Bible
 
Blackleaf
#15
The founder of Islam was a slaver.

We should be pulling down mosques.
 
Ron in Regina
+1
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by Torch light View Post

What's this claim, devilish one? Will my opinion be other than what I believe?
I don't allow myself to say anything in contradiction with God's religion.

My words are clearly obvious concerning the First Commandment, as it is explained in my link, and the First Commandment is nothing else than No god but only God without associate or son.

http://www.quran-ayat.com/universe/i...st_Commandment
quran-ayat.com/universe/index.htm#First_Commandment

http://www.quran-ayat.com/hour/an_ho...m_in_the_Bible
quran-ayat.com/hour/an_hour_with_ghosts.htm#About_the_monotheism_in_th e_Bible

Ugh....Ok.....If your 'Neighbour' (nod-nod-wink-wink!) had a different opinion about religion than you do....in your neighbourhood....would he or she be punished (by other people on this planet and not by your God in the afterlife) for this conflicting belief?
 
Avro52
#17
The Jefferson Davis statue has been removed from its pedestal at the Kentucky state Capitol.
 
Torch light
#18
The monotheism in the Bible which is contradicted by all Jews, Christians and most of Muslims

It is mentioned in the Book of Leviticus, chapter 26: 1; God – be glorified – said:

"I am the Lord your God. You shall make for yourselves no idols a, neither shall you raise up an engraved image b or a pillar c , neither shall you place any figured stone d in your land, to bow down to it: for I am the Lord your God."
.................................................. ........................

a The "idol": is a high round building ascribed to one of the alleged false gods or to one of the saints or imams,
like the "Maqam" of the present time: e.g. the Maqam of Khidhir or Maqam of Sadiq.

b The "engraved images": are the statues of created beings, like those erected by Christians: e.g. the statues of Mary and Jesus, the Cross and similar things.

c The "pillars": are some protuberant stones hanged on the wall or erected over it; as a symbol for some alleged false gods or kings or others; e.g. A stone at Qadam Gah in Iran: which people visit and kiss.

d The "figured stones" or “remarkable stones”: There is a large number of such figured stones in the shrines of imams, sheikhs and saints. Nowadays, a large number of people kiss such stones and sanctify them.

Moreover, it is in the Book of Deuteronomy, chapter 5: 7-9, God – be glorified – said that:

" 7 You shall have no other gods before me.

8 "You shall not make an engraved image for yourself, [nor] any likeness [of anything] that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

9 You shall not bow down yourself to them, nor serve them; for I am the Lord your God, a jealous God."


All this and more explanation is in the book An Hour with Ghosts, by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.
http://www.quran-ayat.com/hour/an_ho...m_in_the_Bible
quran-ayat.com/hour/an_hour_with_ghosts.htm#About_the_monotheism_in_th e_Bible
 
Torch light
#19
Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina View Post

Ugh....Ok.....If your 'Neighbour' (nod-nod-wink-wink!) had a different opinion about religion than you do....in your neighbourhood....would he or she be punished (by other people on this planet and not by your God in the afterlife) for this conflicting belief?

I don't think such thing is present as you imagine, but it is also among your people.
To me, I don't bother myself (now at least) with those of different opinion, as long as they do not oppose the God's religion or the true monotheism.... Ugh of your rancor, I seek God's help against your wickedness; may He deal with you according to your crookedness.

Quran 17: 60, which means:
(Surely, your Lord is All-Aware about people.)
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/17.htm#a17_60
quran-ayat.com/pret/17.htm#a17_60
 
Torch light
#20
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

The founder of Islam was a slaver.
We should be pulling down mosques.

You lie, and want to fight God?.. so who will overcome the other?
I believe you are very near to your end, Zionists.
 
Torch light
#21
Quote: Originally Posted by Avro52 View Post

The Jefferson Davis statue has been removed from its pedestal at the Kentucky state Capitol.

Good work.
 
Torch light
#22
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

The Prophet Muhammad did not try to abolish slavery, and bought, sold, captured, and owned slaves himself. But he insisted that slave owners treat their slaves well and stressed the virtue of freeing slaves.
There are two different ways of interpreting this:
* some modern writers believe that Muhammad intended his teachings to lead to the gradual end of slavery by limiting opportunities to acquire new slaves and allowing existing slaves to become free. This idea doesn't appear in early writings.
* other writers argue that by regulating slavery the Prophet gave his authority to its continued existence, and that by having slaves himself he showed his approval
https://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/relig...ery_1.shtml#h3

The slavery was present before Prophet Mohammed, and he did not make or invent it; refer also to the Torah as included in the Old Testament.

And it is also in the Gospel, Jesus said: " No servant [or slave] is greater than his master."

Moreover, you cannot enslave free people; and the source of such slavery was the wars and the captives of war.
If you are just (which I am certain you are not), then when you study the Quran, you will see it is the great virtue if one frees a slave (or frees a captive from the captivity.)

Quran 90: 11-13, which mean:
(11. But he cannot assault the obstacle [in order to enter into Paradise.]

12. And do you know what [righteous work, makes to man a way in crossing] the obstacle?

[Then God – be glorified – described the deeds by which he may traverse such obstacle, and He said:]
13. [It is] to free [a believer] from captivity or slavery.

14. Or to feed in the time of starvation:

15. An orphan of the relatives.

16. Or [to feed] a poor man who sits on the dust [because of his extreme poverty.])

http://quran-ayat.com/pret/90.htm#a90_11
quran-ayat.com/pret/90.htm#a90_11
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Torch light
#23
Now let us listen to this great soora 90 which is a short soora:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHio8sMSzBU

This also is the interpretation of this marvelous soora

Soora 90
(In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful)

[One of the associaters or idolaters among the people of Mecca said: “God, if this [Quran] is indeed the truth [coming] from You, then rain down on us [a shower of] stones out of the sky, or bring us a painful chastisement!"

He said this in a way of mocking and denying the apostle-hood of Mohammed; therefore, this soora was revealed in reply to his requesting the chastisement:]


1. No, I swear by this city [of Mecca: I shall not bring the punishment on this city.]

2. As long as you [Mohammed] are dwelling in this city.

3. And [as long as there are believers therein of] old parents and their children.

4. Surely, We created man [: Adam] inside [a grave; and his progeny inside the womb.]

[These ayat were revealed concerning Abu Aswad son of Kilda:]
5. Does he think none [of creatures] is stronger than him?

6. He says [to his people]: "I have expended abundant wealth [in charity.]"

[Therefore, God – be glorified – said in reply to him:]
7. Does he think that none [of Our angels] has seen him?

8. Have We not made to him two eyes [with which he sees],

9. And a tongue and two lips [with which he speaks]?

10. And acquainted him about the two ways [of the truth and the falsehood]?

11. But he cannot assault the obstacle [in order to enter into Paradise.]

12. And do you know what [righteous work, makes to man a way in] the obstacle?

[Then God – be glorified – described the deeds by which he may traverse such obstacle, and He said:]
13. [It is] to free a believer from captivity or slavery.

14. Or to feed in the time of starvation:

15. An orphan of the relatives.

16. Or [to feed] a poor man who sits on the dust [because of his extreme poverty.]

17. In addition to be one of those who believe and advise each other to be steadfast [about the distress and affliction], and advise each other to be merciful [to the poor and the weak.]

18. It is such [believers just mentioned] that will have 'success and happiness'.

19. But those who disbelieve in Our revelations will [after their death] receive the bad omen [of the chastisement.]

20. A fire in which they will be locked up.)


More explanation by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly:
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/90.htm#a90_1
quran-ayat.com/pret/90.htm#a90_1
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Torch light
#24
Delusions of idolaters :

Satan deludes the idolaters until he misguides them.

E.g. Once I heard a man saying: "We had a poster hanged on the wall, in which the name of God is written in addition to the names of Mohammed, Ali, and the companions of Mohammed: Abu Bakr and Omar.

He said: Wherever I looked to that poster I saw the name of Ali glistening with light; it is very miraculous indeed: how can the name of Ali be glistening from everywhere I sat to the right or to the left!?"

Of course it is certainly the colors with which these names were written and the reflection of light which made such appearance.

And as such are the delusions of idolaters with their idols and patrons.

And as such the statues will be - by time - taken as idols and as protective patrons of the city and country where they are erected.


 
taxslave
#25
Quote: Originally Posted by Avro52 View Post

The protests to defend these statues are getting huge....

Almost as big as Trumps inauguration attendance.

Two fat old white guys is all that is needed to fend off the fascists.
 
Avro52
#26
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

Two fat old white guys is all that is needed to fend off the fascists.

Who weren’t coming.
 
taxslave
+1
#27
Quote: Originally Posted by Torch light View Post

This is called RUBBISH.
What have we to do with Hitler or Churchill?
Did they follow Prophet Mohammed and the rest of God's messengers? No, they were disbelievers and would lose in the Next Life whether you like them or not.
And although the Nazis were infidels and disbelievers, but you Zionists are worse than Nazis with your haughtiness and transgression.

Nasis are little children compared to muslims when it comes to committing sins against nature.
 
Torch light
#28
The parable of Zionists:

The ministry of education sent a teacher to a school to teach the first class,
then next year it sent another teacher to teach the second class,
then the third year it sent yet another teacher to teach the third class..

The Zionists are the failed students remaining in the first class and insisting not learning by the two new teachers.
 
Torch light
#29
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

Nasis are little children compared to muslims when it comes to committing sins against nature .

Zionists are the little innocent children... poor little children.
Poor Wicked Zionist of Tel Aviv!
Muslims are against nature: so nature is resenting.. poor nature is resenting..
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Torch light
#30
These statues have become symbols, this is out of glorifying .. it may be the first step before being worshiped by next generation.
 

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