Israel

NZDoug
Free Thinker
#31
The Peace Report
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62scDcWMQDg
I donate to these dudes.
Ex U.S military peace activists.
Peace!
✌🏼
 
DaSleeper
+1
#32
There are many versions of what really happens in Palestine



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwpc...ature=youtu.be
 
Girth
+3
#33


Arab countries attempted to whitewash history. The amount written on the Palestinian political situation is abundant, but when has one ever heard about the ethnic cleansing of the Jews of Muslim-dominated countries in the Middle East and North Africa.

These Jews numbered nearly 1,000,000 people at the conclusion of World War 2. Most were forced to immigrate, mainly to Israel under threat of death. They enacted Nuremberg style laws, denied Jews their status as citizens, expelled them from most jobs and the civil service, killed many outright after being convicted in kangaroo style courts of being "spies of Israel." The Jews were only allowed to escape to other nations, if they agreed to transfer all their assets (property, business, personal belongings, etc) to the state.

It is an inconvenient truth, but Jews aren't known to whine about their tragic history. Arabs are...
Last edited by Girth; Feb 27th, 2020 at 02:54 PM..
 
QAbones
No Party Affiliation
#34
Quote: Originally Posted by Girth View Post

I want to pledge my support to the Jewish state. It is the only democracy in the Middle East, and in spite of the constant threat of attacks from it's Arab neighbors, and the bogus UN resolutions drafted against them, the country continues to prosper!

Israel are Democratic State but Israeli Army big treat with the Arabs and treatment by arabian yihadist's ain't Israel biggest treatment coronavirus ...
 
QAbones
No Party Affiliation
#35
Quote: Originally Posted by Girth View Post


Arab countries attempted to whitewash history. The amount written on the Palestinian political situation is abundant, but when has one ever heard about the ethnic cleansing of the Jews of Muslim-dominated countries in the Middle East and North Africa.
These Jews numbered nearly 1,000,000 people at the conclusion of World War 2. Most were forced to immigrate, mainly to Israel under threat of death. They enacted Nuremberg style laws, denied Jews their status as citizens, expelled them from most jobs and the civil service, killed many outright after being convicted in kangaroo style courts of being "spies of Israel." The Jews were only allowed to escape to other nations, if they agreed to transfer all their assets (property, business, personal belongings, etc) to the state.
It is an inconvenient truth, but Jews aren't known to whine about their tragic history. Arabs are...

Ain't these the beautyful way after the slaughter in Poland and a more State in WW2 ...
 
QAbones
No Party Affiliation
#36
But Israel have competitor by Iran and Turkey in the Middle East to strongpoint in strongest Army power there ...

 
QAbones
No Party Affiliation
#37
It's because Turkey are in military offensivaly in Syria and then in Libya too ...
 
NZDoug
Free Thinker
-2
#38
More b.s.
................
Israel's settlement policy


Israeli settlers in Hebron, West Bank
Israel has had its settlement growth and policies in the Palestinian territories harshly criticized by the European Union citing it as increasingly undermining the viability of the two-state solution and running in contrary to the Israeli-stated commitment to resume negotiations. In December 2011, all the regional groupings on the UN Security Council named continued settlement construction and settler violence as disruptive to the resumption of talks, a call viewed by Russia as a "historic step". In April 2012, international outrage followed Israeli steps to further entrench the Jewish settlements in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, which included the publishing of tenders for further settler homes and the plan to legalize settler outposts. Britain said that the move was a breach of Israeli commitments under the road map to freeze all settlement expansion in the land captured since 1967. The British Foreign Minister stated that the "Systematic, illegal Israeli settlement activity poses the most significant and live threat to the viability of the two state solution". In May 2012 the 27 foreign ministers of the European Union issued a statement which condemned continued Israeli settler violence and incitement.[76] In a similar move, the Quartet "expressed its concern over ongoing settler violence and incitement in the West Bank," calling on Israel "to take effective measures, including bringing the perpetrators of such acts to justice."[77] The Palestinian Ma'an News agency reported the PA Cabinet's statement on the issue stated that the West, including East Jerusalem, were seeing "an escalation in incitement and settler violence against our people with a clear protection from the occupation military. The last of which was the thousands of settler march in East Jerusalem which included slogans inciting to kill, hate and supports violence".
Israeli Military Police
In a report published in February 2014 covering incidents over the three-year period of 2011–2013, Amnesty International asserted that Israeli forces employed reckless violence in the West Bank, and in some instances appeared to engage in wilful killings which would be tantamount to war crimes. Besides the numerous fatalities, Amnesty said at least 261 Palestinians, including 67 children, had been gravely injured by Israeli use of live ammunition. In this same period, 45 Palestinians, including 6 children had been killed. Amnesty's review of 25 civilians deaths concluded that in no case was there evidence of the Palestinians posing an imminent threat. At the same time, over 8,000 Palestinians suffered serious injuries from other means, including rubber-coated metal bullets. Only one IDF soldier was convicted, killing a Palestinian attempting to enter Israel illegally. The soldier was demoted and given a 1-year sentence with a five-month suspension. The IDF answered the charges stating that its army held itself "to the highest of professional standards," adding that when there was suspicion of wrongdoing, it investigated and took action "where appropriate"
More
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel...inian_conflict
 
gerryh
+1
#39
Israel should just officially expand their borders to include Gaza and the west bank. Throw all Hamas supporters in jail, offer citizenship to Palestinians. Those that decline can leave. Any outside interference to be met and terminated with extreme prejudice.

If you think Isreal would have a problem with this, refer to the 1967 war.
 
petros
+1
#40
How about they call it all Palestine again and make Israelis Palestinians?
 
gerryh
#41
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

How about they call it all Palestine again and make Israelis Palestinians?

Nope
 
NZDoug
Free Thinker
-1
#42
Israels importance diminishes with the value of oil.
China gives aid to the world.
Russia gives aid to the world.
Cuba sends doctors to the world.
USA gives 38 billion per year or $750 Us,. to Israel every minute 24 hours per day in military supplies, as Americans die from lack of medical equipment.
This will work out well.�� NOT!!!
 
Dixie Cup
Conservative
+3
#43
The bottom line to all of this is that the Palestinians don't want peace at all - let me clarify - the Palestinian leaders don't want peace with Israel. But if one were to speak with the average Palestinian, they do want peace with Israel and there is (at least) one independent documentary I saw on one of the TV stations (can't remember if it was CBC, CTV or Global) that went among the Palestinians to ask what their beef was with Israel. The vast majority of the Palestinians that were interviewed said that they had no bone to pick (my words) with Israel and were, in fact, thankful for Israel because they provided them with fresh water, medical supplies & treatments etc. Some actually worked in Israel while others had no comment one way or the other. I found that to be very interesting.


So who really stands to gain by warring with Israel on a regular basis because it certainly isn't the "average" Palestinian.
 
Tecumsehsbones
#44
Quote: Originally Posted by Dixie Cup View Post

The bottom line to all of this is that the Palestinians don't want peace at all - let me clarify - the Palestinian leaders don't want peace with Israel. But if one were to speak with the average Palestinian, they do want peace with Israel and there is (at least) one independent documentary I saw on one of the TV stations (can't remember if it was CBC, CTV or Global) that went among the Palestinians to ask what their beef was with Israel. The vast majority of the Palestinians that were interviewed said that they had no bone to pick (my words) with Israel and were, in fact, thankful for Israel because they provided them with fresh water, medical supplies & treatments etc. Some actually worked in Israel while others had no comment one way or the other. I found that to be very interesting.
So who really stands to gain by warring with Israel on a regular basis because it certainly isn't the "average" Palestinian.

Oh dear. Dixie has, purely by accident, stumbled upon a truth.

Now, let's see if she can extend that to the average German in 1936, the average American in 1775, the average Russian from 1945-1990, or the average Chinese from 7000 years ago-this morning.
 
EagleSmack
+6
#45  Top Rated Post
Quote: Originally Posted by NZDoug View Post

Israels importance diminishes with the value of oil.
China gives aid to the world.
Russia gives aid to the world.
Cuba sends doctors to the world.
USA gives 38 billion per year or $750 Us,. to Israel every minute 24 hours per day in military supplies, as Americans die from lack of medical equipment.
This will work out well.�� NOT!!!


Anti-Semetism is alive and well in NZ it seems.




Americans die for lack of medical equipment? Oh dear... you are not talking about ventilators and PPE?


Why are libs so uneducated.
 
Tecumsehsbones
#46
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

Anti-Semetism is alive and well in NZ it seems.

Consumption of alcohol, too.
 
NZDoug
Free Thinker
-1
#47
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

Anti-Semetism is alive and well in NZ it seems.
Americans die for lack of medical equipment? Oh dear... you are not talking about ventilators and PPE?
Why are libs so uneducated.

Israel's settlement policy


Israeli settlers in Hebron, West Bank
Israel has had its settlement growth and policies in the Palestinian territories harshly criticized by the European Union citing it as increasingly undermining the viability of the two-state solution and running in contrary to the Israeli-stated commitment to resume negotiations. In December 2011, all the regional groupings on the UN Security Council named continued settlement construction and settler violence as disruptive to the resumption of talks, a call viewed by Russia as a "historic step". In April 2012, international outrage followed Israeli steps to further entrench the Jewish settlements in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, which included the publishing of tenders for further settler homes and the plan to legalize settler outposts. Britain said that the move was a breach of Israeli commitments under the road map to freeze all settlement expansion in the land captured since 1967. The British Foreign Minister stated that the "Systematic, illegal Israeli settlement activity poses the most significant and live threat to the viability of the two state solution". In May 2012 the 27 foreign ministers of the European Union issued a statement which condemned continued Israeli settler violence and incitement.[76] In a similar move, the Quartet "expressed its concern over ongoing settler violence and incitement in the West Bank," calling on Israel "to take effective measures, including bringing the perpetrators of such acts to justice."[77] The Palestinian Ma'an News agency reported the PA Cabinet's statement on the issue stated that the West, including East Jerusalem, were seeing "an escalation in incitement and settler violence against our people with a clear protection from the occupation military. The last of which was the thousands of settler march in East Jerusalem which included slogans inciting to kill, hate and supports violence".
Israeli Military Police
In a report published in February 2014 covering incidents over the three-year period of 2011–2013, Amnesty International asserted that Israeli forces employed reckless violence in the West Bank, and in some instances appeared to engage in wilful killings which would be tantamount to war crimes. Besides the numerous fatalities, Amnesty said at least 261 Palestinians, including 67 children, had been gravely injured by Israeli use of live ammunition. In this same period, 45 Palestinians, including 6 children had been killed. Amnesty's review of 25 civilians deaths concluded that in no case was there evidence of the Palestinians posing an imminent threat. At the same time, over 8,000 Palestinians suffered serious injuries from other means, including rubber-coated metal bullets. Only one IDF soldier was convicted, killing a Palestinian attempting to enter Israel illegally. The soldier was demoted and given a 1-year sentence with a five-month suspension. The IDF answered the charges stating that its army held itself "to the highest of professional standards," adding that when there was suspicion of wrongdoing, it investigated and took action "where appropriate"
More
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel...inian_conflict
 
NZDoug
Free Thinker
#48
So Girth,
If China dissolves Tel Aviv,
will you automatically dissolve and Rapture out?
Maybe I should convert!
 
NZDoug
Free Thinker
#49
Quote: Originally Posted by NZDoug View Post

So Girth,
If China dissolves Tel Aviv,
will you automatically dissolve and Rapture out?
Maybe I should convert!

Would you ,will you put me in your will?
Nothing the far North....
 
Dixie Cup
Conservative
+1
#50
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

Oh dear. Dixie has, purely by accident, stumbled upon a truth.

Now, let's see if she can extend that to the average German in 1936, the average American in 1775, the average Russian from 1945-1990, or the average Chinese from 7000 years ago-this morning.



The "average" person in Germany, (America??) , Russian & Chinese likely didn't have a clue of what their governments were doing because they were too busy scraping for food to survive!! The wealthy ones didn't give a damn as long as nothing affected them.
 
Torch light
-3
#51
The Hebrew state in Palestine, called Israel, is fake, invented and feigned : against logic and reality.

Go back from where you came Zionists; it may be the last chance for you!
Or you convert and be honored by the Islam religion and the Quran teachings, and I give you guaranty you will then be saved and allowed to stay in Palestine like other Muslims.
Don't rely on the present condition and the power of USA and the West..

God is the Most Powerful.. in one minute He can change everything ..

that is when Muslims change their devotion to be for God alone and abandon the tomb worship.. at that time, you may not have this opportunity of returning to your original countries.

Now there is a profound lesson for you: the Coronavirus and what it has done to these haughty states.

Even to their military and armed forces: a large number of their military and police have been infected and I read in the CNN as I remember: 26 military ships with their staff have been infected. And the infected military counted by thousands (I don't remember the exact number)

In France, the Charles Degoul carrier has its staff infected.

I say: if the military are infected with an infection worse than this, can they go to help the Zionists? Of course they will not be able to help the Zionists when their hour of punishment is due.

And God can afflict them with something unimaginable and unexpected worse than this simple Coronavirus.

Which was unexpected catastrophe with a simple relatively mild virus [its fatality is about 1% or more or less]: had the fatality been more than this, what result might have been!?

http://quran-ayat.com/conflicts/engl..._of_Perishing_
quran-ayat.com/conflicts/english3.htm#A_Warning_to_Zionists_of_Perishing_
Last edited by Torch light; 4 weeks ago at 05:12 PM..
 
taxslave
Free Thinker
+2
#52
Quote: Originally Posted by NZDoug View Post

Israel's settlement policy
Israeli settlers in Hebron, West Bank
Israel has had its settlement growth and policies in the Palestinian territories harshly criticized by the European Union citing it as increasingly undermining the viability of the two-state solution and running in contrary to the Israeli-stated commitment to resume negotiations. In December 2011, all the regional groupings on the UN Security Council named continued settlement construction and settler violence as disruptive to the resumption of talks, a call viewed by Russia as a "historic step". In April 2012, international outrage followed Israeli steps to further entrench the Jewish settlements in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, which included the publishing of tenders for further settler homes and the plan to legalize settler outposts. Britain said that the move was a breach of Israeli commitments under the road map to freeze all settlement expansion in the land captured since 1967. The British Foreign Minister stated that the "Systematic, illegal Israeli settlement activity poses the most significant and live threat to the viability of the two state solution". In May 2012 the 27 foreign ministers of the European Union issued a statement which condemned continued Israeli settler violence and incitement.[76] In a similar move, the Quartet "expressed its concern over ongoing settler violence and incitement in the West Bank," calling on Israel "to take effective measures, including bringing the perpetrators of such acts to justice."[77] The Palestinian Ma'an News agency reported the PA Cabinet's statement on the issue stated that the West, including East Jerusalem, were seeing "an escalation in incitement and settler violence against our people with a clear protection from the occupation military. The last of which was the thousands of settler march in East Jerusalem which included slogans inciting to kill, hate and supports violence".
Israeli Military Police
In a report published in February 2014 covering incidents over the three-year period of 2011–2013, Amnesty International asserted that Israeli forces employed reckless violence in the West Bank, and in some instances appeared to engage in wilful killings which would be tantamount to war crimes. Besides the numerous fatalities, Amnesty said at least 261 Palestinians, including 67 children, had been gravely injured by Israeli use of live ammunition. In this same period, 45 Palestinians, including 6 children had been killed. Amnesty's review of 25 civilians deaths concluded that in no case was there evidence of the Palestinians posing an imminent threat. At the same time, over 8,000 Palestinians suffered serious injuries from other means, including rubber-coated metal bullets. Only one IDF soldier was convicted, killing a Palestinian attempting to enter Israel illegally. The soldier was demoted and given a 1-year sentence with a five-month suspension. The IDF answered the charges stating that its army held itself "to the highest of professional standards," adding that when there was suspicion of wrongdoing, it investigated and took action "where appropriate"
More
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel...inian_conflict

The problem with all this is that no one of any importance gives a Flynn fukk what the EU or the UN think.
 
NZDoug
Free Thinker
#53
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

The problem with all this is that no one of any importance gives a Flynn fukk what the EU or the UN think.

Of course.
Who created Israel?
Was it in 1947?
.................
The show’s writer, Amr Samir Atif, told The Associated Press that the destruction of Israel “is a possible future in the absence of real peace and true stability in the region. … Peace should be based on justice.”
.................................................. .....
Israel decries Egyptian TV show predicting its destruction, breakup of the US
Foreign Ministry slams as ‘completely unacceptable’ Ramadan sci-fi production ‘El-Nehaya,’ in which Jerusalem has been ‘liberated’ and Jews ‘returned to their countries of origin’
more
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel...s-destruction/
 
Girth
+2
#54
One wonders why Nut Zone Doug seems to take shots at Israel and Jews, whenever possible, considering there are barely any Jews in New Zealand. Sigmund Freud would ahve a field day with him.
 
NZDoug
Free Thinker
#55
Quote: Originally Posted by Girth View Post

One wonders why Nut Zone Doug seems to take shots at Israel and Jews, whenever possible, considering there are barely any Jews in New Zealand. Sigmund Freud would ahve a field day with him.

Why are facts "shots at the Jews"?
I like Mel Lastman and Honest Ed.
Wasn't Leonard Cohen a Cohen?
These are cool dudes.
Girty boy, explain to me about the Rapture.
Does your head explode?
I will invite you to my Bar Mitzvah!
 
EagleSmack
+2
#56
Quote: Originally Posted by NZDoug View Post

…………..
Are you guys referring to the terrorist attacks at the King David Hotel in Jerusalem in 1946?


No, we were saying we had no idea that antisemitism was so prevalent in NZ.
 
DaSleeper
+1
#57
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

No, we were saying we had no idea that antisemitism was so prevalent in NZ.

I would say that this is the politically correct pony that someone would ride after the Christchurch shootings in New Zealand last year!


Blame it on the JOOS!
 
NZDoug
Free Thinker
#58
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

No, we were saying we had no idea that antisemitism was so prevalent in NZ.

Correct!
We celebrate Waitangi Day on Feb.6 annually.
Waiting Day is the day of the “Running of the Jews”.
It is also Bob Marleys birthday,as we here are Rastafarians, who believe the Jews belong n Africa.
“Rastafari originated among impoverished and socially disenfranchised Afro-Jamaican communities in 1930s Jamaica. Its Afrocentric ideology was largely a reaction against Jamaica's then-dominant British colonial culture. It was influenced by both Ethiopianism and the Back-to-Africa movement promoted by black nationalist figures such as Marcus Garvey. The movement developed after several Protestant Christian clergymen, most notably Leonard Howell, proclaimed that Haile Selassie's crowning as Emperor of Ethiopia in 1930 fulfilled a Biblical prophecy. By the 1950s, Rastafari's counter-cultural stance had brought the movement into conflict with wider Jamaican society, including violent clashes with law enforcement. In the 1960s and 1970s it gained increased respectability within Jamaica and greater visibility abroad through the popularity of Rasta-inspired reggae musicians, most notably Bob Marley. Enthusiasm for Rastafari declined in the 1980s, following the deaths of Haile Selassie and Marley, but the movement survived and has a presence in many parts of the world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a952gCabSCQ
 
Girth
#59
Quote: Originally Posted by NZDoug View Post

Correct!
We celebrate Waitangi Day on Feb.6 annually.
Waiting Day is the day of the “Running of the Jews”.
It is also Bob Marleys birthday,as we here are Rastafarians, who believe the Jews belong n Africa.
“Rastafari originated among impoverished and socially disenfranchised Afro-Jamaican communities in 1930s Jamaica. Its Afrocentric ideology was largely a reaction against Jamaica's then-dominant British colonial culture. It was influenced by both Ethiopianism and the Back-to-Africa movement promoted by black nationalist figures such as Marcus Garvey. The movement developed after several Protestant Christian clergymen, most notably Leonard Howell, proclaimed that Haile Selassie's crowning as Emperor of Ethiopia in 1930 fulfilled a Biblical prophecy. By the 1950s, Rastafari's counter-cultural stance had brought the movement into conflict with wider Jamaican society, including violent clashes with law enforcement. In the 1960s and 1970s it gained increased respectability within Jamaica and greater visibility abroad through the popularity of Rasta-inspired reggae musicians, most notably Bob Marley. Enthusiasm for Rastafari declined in the 1980s, following the deaths of Haile Selassie and Marley, but the movement survived and has a presence in many parts of the world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a952gCabSCQ

I love these tangents you go on, to sway the topic off course. This seems to be interesting, even if it has nothing to so with the topic.
 
Tecumsehsbones
+2
#60
Israel is the only country on the planet whose existence was pre-approved by a democratic vote in the only international forum that has ever had an even questionably credible claim to representing the world and the human species.

One could almost say that Israel has a better right to exist than any other country.

Which does not, of course, immunize it from criticism of its actions.
 

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