trudeau doesnt give a **** about indigeneous peoples rights


spilledthebeer
+3
#151
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

Bullshit. It is the elected chiefs that have legal authority. The hereditory chiefs are nothing but useless fluff and feathers. Do look up the term elected.


THE REAL PROBLEM HERE with natives is panic stricken LIE-berals frantically trying to BUY native votes in a desperate bid to cling to power at ANY PRICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!


And why are we not discussing the latest LIE-beral scandal involving SNC Lavelin- the Quebec based company caught up in bribery and corruption charges!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!


And Our idiot Boy gave a VERY CAREFULLY SCRIPTED REPLY to the question of govt intererfence in the case!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Our idiot Boy stated he "did not direct the Justice Minister regarding the Lavelin case"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



So as I understand it he DENIES ISSUING ORDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!


However - when he was asked if he "put any sort of pressure on the Justice Minster regarding the Lavelin case- he CLAMMED UP!!!!!!!


And when asked if Justice Minster Wilson was FIRED from her job last month because of her handling of the Lavelin case- meaning putting the case to trial instead of accepting a plea bargain that would have minimized publicity - Our idiot Boy found NO ANSWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
taxslave
Free Thinker
+2
#152
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

If that is the case do try and explain why we have to get leases from the government if they don't own the land.
 
spilledthebeer
#153
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

If that is the case do try and explain why we have to get leases from the government if they don't own the land.


Oh..........I see that taxslave is not familiar with legal terminology!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!


Govt will LEASE a thing it only wants to own or use for a little while.............like a car or a condo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!


Govt will EXPROPRIATE - meaning buy and pay for land that it wishes to use FOR A LONG TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


To expropriate a thing means having it change ownership!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As will be happening with the land the pipeline will eventually be built on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
MHz
#154
'It's' trying but 'it' keeps spilling them.'
Memo received and updates applied and ready for inspection.
'It' has a large family, Right?
 
MHz
#155
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

If that is the case do try and explain why we have to get leases from the government if they don't own the land.

Perhaps this might come into play for 'public land' that borders an Indian village and where 'private land' also borders an Indian village.
'Private land' was farmland at some point so a homestead was established and the owner of the 1/4section (160 acres) also got the mineral rights so it turned out to be a gravel quarry the 'farmer' became very rich by selling the product an keeping all the money. On public land the material would be sold at the 'xxx/meter' level that would be about 1/10 of the value after it was refined and sold on the open market.
If a utility company wants to come across a 'homestead' it does just that. The 'farmer might have some say about the 10 acres his house sits on but the other 150 acres is open territory for 'as much' or 'as little' of the property is taken. When the property sold the mineral rights were stolen by the crown so they would get a share of something they had little rights to.
'Public lands' next to a 'Reserve' were used as a resource for food, same as a farmer grows a crop for, feed yourself and sell the rest. You cannot eat oil and diamonds (NWT) in the long term will be worth $100'sT/100 years to somebody with mineral rights.

$27T in profit @ 10% = 2.7B rather than the $500M the Govt and Indians collected.
At the time the borders were being draw the Indians got the land that has the least value and any that had value was privately owned long before mineral wealth became an issue. If Indian can claim mineral wealth is 'feeding them' then would win and could drive a BMW to the 'Rez Store" to pick up his new 'wall sized big screen like you on the TV.'
The other option is even less money will make it into the public coffers but the mining companies will be swimming in diamonds. The Provinces have less money to play with but the court cases will have a big impact on what goes on up north.The fewer people the better and bears only would be the best case rather than the worst.
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#156
A new twist

B.C. gas pipeline on hold as company investigates Indigenous artifacts claim

Quote:

In a written statement, the company said Friday it has voluntarily suspended work at the site while it investigates the claims.
Spice said two Unist'ot'en supporters had been searching the upturned ground of the future work camp in the evenings, after crews had left, when they found two stone tools.
The Unist'ot'en say the company didn't conduct an adequate archeological impact assessment during the permitting process.
Coastal Gaslink says it did complete an archeological impact assessment as part of the permitting process, and the B.C. Oil and gas Commission confirmed that it met provincial requirements for its permit.
However, the company also says a road blockade prevented it from conducting onsite field work.

Were they a plant to stop the pipeline?
 
spilledthebeer
+1
#157
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

A new twist

B.C. gas pipeline on hold as company investigates Indigenous artifacts claim



Were they a plant to stop the pipeline?


It is an OLD DODGE and quite easy to do so YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


There is EXCELLENT REASON to think things were planted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And there is excellent reason to think that the archeological "value" of the planted items will be BLOWN WAY OUT OF PROPORTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


On the plus side- we are getting near to spring and thus archeologists can very soon start work- and DEBUNK the "finds" well before the October election!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And as we all know........Our idiot Boy has NO PLANS to ever build pipelines!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So our new govt will be able to get on with the work - FREE of fake archeological claims!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!