WE really need to get rid of this guy


Mowich
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Ron in Regina
Free Thinker
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#122
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

My God you're pedantic.

As I have told you before - if you use google to prove your point you could just as easily use it to disprove it. Why do you need someone to do it for you?

So you're just making this one up too then?OK, got it.
 
Hoid
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#123
I heard it from one of the people being interviewed on CBC today.

Not sure why you are so gotten to over it.

WE charity is a big deal and has been since long before Trudeau arrived on the scene.
 
Hoid
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#124
lol No Prime Minister had ever been convicted of an ethics violation by a commission that came into existence in 2007
 
gerryh
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#125
http://globalnews.ca/news/5775279/et...story-trudeau/


Not that hoid would be interested in truth.
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
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#126
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

I am fine with idea of paying students for volunteer work during this time where the jobs they would normally do in order to get money and experience are not available to them.

That is the important part.

That part about damaging Trudeau and hurting the Liberals is of no importance to me.

Yeah, right. No importance to you. You are a lone voice crying for the students, because they won't get their grants aka Trudeau's vote buying fund.

WE charity is cash cow that keeps giving, for the Kielburgers, the Trudeau's, and the Morneau's.


This just in on that Left Wing Television Station CBC NEWS:


WE employees say they were told to attend 2018 holiday party in Bill Morneau's riding

Several former employees of WE Charity have told CBC News they felt pressured to attend the event and claimed they were not told by their supervisors that the party would be hosted by the federal finance minister and MP for Toronto Centre.
"None of us wanted to go," said a former employee, whom CBC News has agreed to refer to as Robin.
Robin is one of three former WE Charity employees who allege co-founder Marc Kielburger's chief of staff, Jackie Pilon, repeatedly asked them to attend the event on Dec. 13, 2018, even after they told her they'd rather not.

If you would like to know the rest of the story click here
 
gerryh
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#127
This is interesting.

https://calgaryherald.com/opinion/gw...box=1596060119
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
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#128
Last edited by Cliffy; Jul 30th, 2020 at 12:58 AM..
 
DaSleeper
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#129
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post


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Twin_Moose
Conservative
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#130
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

My God you're pedantic.
As I have told you before - if you use google to prove your point you could just as easily use it to disprove it. Why do you need someone to do it for you?

Ron proved his work, you not so much

'It's highly unethical': Someone paid nearly 200 people to promote positive WE Charity stories on Google

Paid to send traffic to positive stories to get them ranked higher in the search engine

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to testify today on WE Charity controversy

Um, Ah, we were doing it for the students during the pandemic

Wash rinse repeat for 2-4 hours
 
Jinentonix
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#131
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

lol No Prime Minister had ever been convicted of an ethics violation by a commission that came into existence in 2007

Yeah, let's all pretend that the Office doesn't have several direct ancestors that predate this legislation, and its origins can be traced back to the 1970s.
 
Mowich
Conservative
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#132
Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh View Post

This is interesting.

https://calgaryherald.com/opinion/gw...box=1596060119


"The prime minister said it was needed so students would have summer jobs. But students arenít taking jobs that already exist. A prime example is agriculture. Because of COVID-19, farmers have faced delays in getting temporary foreign workers, leaving crops spoiling in their fields. Many students that farmers did manage to attract either failed to show up or quit after deciding the work was too hard, a phenomenon that reflects our coddled Generation Zís aversion to physical labour."
 
Mowich
Conservative
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#133
Well that's it then. It's all the fault of the public service. The little potato knew nothing............nuthink. So, time to haul the public service before the commission and get their take on why, with all the other choices available including existing government agencies more than capable of delivering the program, WE was chosen. Especially when WE had no experience whatsoever delivering government programs. Why when the public service was apparently doing their 'due diligence' did they not turn up the fact that WE employees were forced to sign NDAs? And, did they bother to look into WE's books?


Edit to add:
This is not say that for one single moment do I believe the numerous lies coming out of the little s*&t's mouth because I don't but how to prove otherwise........ah there's the rub.
 
Mowich
Conservative
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#134
If this is an example of how Canada's Public Service Commission does due diligence our country is in bigger trouble than I thought.

They didn't find out that WE is heavily involved in real estate deals
They didn't find out that WE demanded their employees sign NDA's and attend indoctrination parties
They didn't find out that WE was almost broke and the billions promised from the government would take care of that little problem nicely
They didn't find out that WE had fired their entire board just prior to the announcement that they would administer the program
They didn't care that the PM's family was heavily involved with WE
They didn't care that Canada's Finance Minister was heavily involved with WE


Boy howdy that's some due diligence.
 
Jinentonix
No Party Affiliation
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#135
Canada's Prime Minister


 
Mowich
Conservative
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#136
Thomas Mulcair gives him a fail and just brought up the same points I did in my prior post - yeah Thomas!

And ...... here's..............Katie. Telford is now under the gun. Here we go with a list of all the wonderful things that the liberal government has done during the pandemic. Now she has veered into her history with the PM - no one cares Katie - get to the point.......oh the point is the pandemic and all the wonderful work the government has done for Canadians. Yawn.
Oh they made mistakes she says but hey it was all for the good cause they had to get those billions out the door as fast as they could. Who cares about due diligence.


So basically she is stating is almost word for word what the PM said in his opening statement.


It is all the public services fault.
 
Mowich
Conservative
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#137
Quote: Originally Posted by Jinentonix View Post

Canada's Prime Minister



Nuthink...............Jin............nuthink! LOL
 
Mowich
Conservative
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#138
Whoa she sure blew the question about the code of ethics. Stumbling all over her words, she finally came up a garbled response that basically stated, from the liberals point of view, the code of ethics is very fluid. An every changing document that is not always easy to interpret. Well obviously not by the liberals. Doesn't appear that any of the other parties have that same inability. To them, as to any thinking Canadian, the code is crystal clear.

Man she's one cool customer this one - with eyes of steel and a smirk on her face she baldly states she is not throwing the PSC under the bus............after she threw the PSC under the bus.
 
Mowich
Conservative
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#139
I really get a kick out of the Bloc MP - haven't caught his name - but he pulls no punches - he's right there in her face taking up the entire screen.



Edit to add:
The Bloc MP is Fortin.


Did she ever advise the PM that he should recuse himself. Nope. That's just the kind of 'advisor' the PM needs - someone just as unethical as himself.
 
Mowich
Conservative
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#140
So according to Katie, neither the PM nor his Finance Minister were in a conflict of interest.............but she supports both of them saying, in hindsight, that they should have recused themselves.



Holy Shit...............the PSC actually came out with a statement that completely refutes what Telford is saying and what the PM said about the PSC. The public servants indicated that they could administer the program.
 
Mowich
Conservative
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#141
I do believe Thomas will give this piece of work a big fail too because she is not doing well at all.



WE continued to be paid for expenses even as the PM was saying he had 'pushed back' on committing to WE. In other words, they had yet to have approval to administer the program but the government was reimbursing them anyway. I can smell the stench from here.
 
Hoid
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#142
Quote: Originally Posted by Mowich View Post

I do believe Thomas will give this piece of work a big fail too because she is not doing well at all.



WE continued to be paid for expenses even as the PM was saying he had 'pushed back' on committing to WE. In other words, they had yet to have approval to administer the program but the government was reimbursing them anyway. I can smell the stench from here.

Maybe you shouldn't live in a shit hole.
 
Mowich
Conservative
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#143
So, yes the decision to go with WE was hasty and ill-thought out but hey............it was for the kids! And they HAD to get the money out like right now..............to help the kids get paid for volunteering and just a bit of indoctrination throw in for good measure.
 
Hoid
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#144
They needed to get the money out there in order to have people hire the students for the summer.

You seem incapable of following the simplest story line.
 
Mowich
Conservative
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#145
Gotta say Katie looks pretty good for having worked 20 hour days seven days a week since the pandemic started - her words.
 
Mowich
Conservative
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#146
Oh good Fortin's back. He wants to know why considering this is the 3rd time that the PM has been accused of ethics breeches, she and her boss still don't get it. She has no answer for that and ducks the question.


And there she goes again........she won't come forward and say that the PM and his Finance Minister should have recused themselves. She supports the fact that they both have stated, several times, that they should have.


Peter Julian, NDP for BC. He is the MP with the document from the PSC stating they were more than able to administer the program.


Katie again has no answer for that.


Code of ethics. She has no answer as to how much due diligence was done - none. Oh, oh Katie's getting a wee bit hot under the old collar.



There is a big discrepancy between when WE started getting paid and when the go ahead was supposed to be given....like an entire month or more later.
 
Mowich
Conservative
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#147
Now we are treated to a liberal apologist more entranced with his own voice then in asking any questions in his limited amount of time. His question after a long and very garbled diatribe is about her understanding of whether or not WE was going to get any money - Katie says they weren't ...........yet as we now know, they were already getting money.
 
Mowich
Conservative
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#148
There are a lot of programs available to students already, Katie says.........but hey there is always room for one more that can doll out taxpayers dollars.

Fortin back, asks again about recusal............Katie yaks on about the difficulty of delivering programs - again ducking the question.

No one from the PMO or the Privy Council bothered to mention to the PM that he just might be afoul of the ethics commission because, according to Katie, they were way too busy delivering other programs. Right.

Now she is saying that extra layers of due diligence were done...........but gee somehow all of WE's dirty laundry somehow escaped notice..........by everyone involved.

It is not only the fault of the PSC for not doing due diligence but according to Katie it is also the fault of the ethics commissioner for the PM not having recused himself. The bodies under the buses just keep mounting with these people.
 
Hoid
#149
Quote: Originally Posted by Mowich View Post

Gotta say Katie looks pretty good for having worked 20 hour days seven days a week since the pandemic started - her words.

Elizabeth May corroborates her words.
 
Mowich
Conservative
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#150
Telford won't disclose emails and other communications regarding this scandal without advice of a lawyer.

The liberal mantra appears to be............yeah well you know this program didn't exactly 'roll out' the way we wanted it to but not too worry nothing to see here. We interpret the code of ethics according to our own needs that actually have nothing to do with ethics and everything to do with trying to get away with whatever we can whenever we want. In addition, our understanding of 'due diligence' is about as deep as a petri dish.