WE really need to get rid of this guy


petros
+4
#31
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Meanwhile where is that $900 million that was going to be distributed to all those kids through the Canada Student Service Grant program?
Oh that's right.
The Bloc and the Conservatives have managed to prevent that from happening because they are busy running for reelection.
Priorities.

This little NDP piggy went to market

This little Conservative piggy stayed home

This little Liberal piggy went WE WE WE all the way home
 
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Ron in Regina
Free Thinker
+4
#32
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Damn them for preventing money from getting to the people who need it.

Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh View Post

You mean the WE charity foundation?

Marc & Craig Keiberger? Margaret & Sacha Trudeau? The Marneau Family vacation fund? Some other group of Justin's Family or Friends that we haven't heard about yet?

Surely you're not talking about the students that would have been lucky to receive even half of the $912 Million that wasn't gobbled in the layers of perks and administrative fees to get funds distributed?

Do the math based upon the "45,000 students volunteers not receiving financial compensation from the Liberal WE program with a max payout of $5,000." (45,000 students x $5,000 max = one Hell of a lot less than $912,000,000 and one Hell of a lot less than 1/2 of $912,000,000) If 45,000 students maxed out on their WE Volunteer Cash of $5,000 each.....that's about 1/4 of the original $912 Million....and if 1/2 of the $912 Million Dollars is gobbled up in Administrative perks and pay outs to other 'charities' to accept volunteer students labour paid for via tax dollars, and to teachers to recruit these students, and so on and so forth....then there's STILL and amount equal to or greater than the amount of the 45,000 spots for these student volunteer laborers even if they all maxed out at $5,000/head.

Where is that cash accounted for? No wonder the contract was awarded to a shell corporation with no assets to protect the WE Charity from indemnity against the taxpayers or the Canadian Gov't requesting that cash back I'm assuming at this point.

http://nationalpost.com/news/politic...ral-government
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/we-c...ents-1.5633733
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/pand...deau-1.5633674
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/c...YRlq-KufNnGx4O
http://nationalpost.com/news/politic...grant-program/
http://ipolitics.ca/2020/07/21/publi...ram-pco-clerk/
http://globalnews.ca/news/7204135/bi...arity-scandal/
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+4
#33
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

There are many departments of government at federal and provincial levels that are already set up to do just this. Just that none of the government agencies are ready to give a billion to some of turdOWE's friends. None of this money was supposed to go to anyone in need, it was all to be gifted to the faithful.

Funny how this $1-2 Million all parties agreed to help students ballooned to $912 Million to a sole source administrator

Just sayin
 
Hoid
#34
Regardless of ones math skills the money that was supposed to go to student volunteers has been held up.

Why?

That question will be answered at some point.
 
pgs
Free Thinker
+5
#35
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Regardless of ones math skills the money that was supposed to go to student volunteers has been held up.

Why?

That question will be answered at some point.

Why should volunteers get money ? If they want to volunteer fine , if they want money they should get a job .
 
Jinentonix
No Party Affiliation
+7
#36
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

What could be more conservative than removing key ministers from goverment during a global emergency.


Nothing says I don't give a **** about this country or anyone in it more than that!

How about a Finance Minister who utterly refuses to answer even the most basic questions about the country's finances. Nothing says "contempt for the taxpayer" anymore than that!
 
Hoid
#37
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

Why should volunteers get money ? If they want to volunteer fine , if they want money they should get a job .

why should anybody get money?

Oh as far as working - there is a global pandemic going on and there aren't many jobs.
 
Dixie Cup
Conservative
+6
#38
isn't volunteering for money an oxymoron? If they're getting paid, they're not volunteering!!
 
Jinentonix
No Party Affiliation
+1
#39
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Regardless of ones math skills the money that was supposed to go to student volunteers has been held up.

Why?

That question will be answered at some point.

Pretends to care about student volunteers. Doesn't give two shits about the women's crisis centers being closed because Groper isn't offering anymore funding to them until October. Of course they'll still have to apply and I'm sure they'll be forced to affirm the touchy-feely bullshit of Prince Groper before they receive a penny.
 
Hoid
#40
This program has wide support both with the public and with the political parties of Canada.

Is it a surprise that people who think climate change is a hoax and that only white people face discrimination are against the program to help Canadian students?

No.

It makes perfect sense.
 
gerryh
+4
#41
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

This program has wide support both with the public and with the political parties of Canada.
Is it a surprise that people who think climate change is a hoax and that only white people face discrimination are against the program to help Canadian students?
No.
It makes perfect sense.



The program does, not the way trudeau and morneau wanted to implement it.

With everything that is now coming out, you mean to tell me that you are part of the 12% that are ok with what the liberals did?
 
Hoid
#42
I am fine with idea of paying students for volunteer work during this time where the jobs they would normally do in order to get money and experience are not available to them.

That is the important part.

That part about damaging Trudeau and hurting the Liberals is of no importance to me.
 
gerryh
+3
#43
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

I am fine with idea of paying students for volunteer work during this time where the jobs they would normally do in order to get money and experience are not available to them.
That is the important part.
That part about damaging Trudeau and hurting the Liberals is of no importance to me.


And everyone is fine with getting money to students, just like everyone else. What we are not fine with is the liberals giving the job to their friends to pad their wallets. This is what was going to happen with WE. Pay attention to what is now coming out. Pay attention to the numbers. Just pay attention for once and take your liberal blinders off.
 
DaSleeper
+3
#44
Poor hoid


one of those liberal


 
Hoid
#45
I don't care about your scandals.

Get the money to the people who need it.
 
gerryh
+4
#46
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

I don't care about your scandals.
Get the money to the people who need it.

That would be up to the government to ensure the money actually got to where it should go. Something they weren't doing.
 
Hoid
#47
It is up to everyone in government. Especially in a minority situation.

SO chalk it up as a fail all around and enjoy the endless months of committee meetings and focus groups.

Meanwhile Canadian students fall further and further behind.
 
gerryh
+3
#48
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

It is up to everyone in government. Especially in a minority situation.
SO chalk it up as a fail all around and enjoy the endless months of committee meetings and focus groups.
Meanwhile Canadian students fall further and further behind.

No, it was a win. The opposition and Canadians were able to stop the liberal government from using money that was supposed to be distributed to needy students from being distributed to the governments friends.
 
Hoid
#49
They have managed to stop the liberal government from using the money that was supposed to be distributed to needy students being distributed to needy students.

What a win!
 
gerryh
+1
#50
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

They have managed to stop the liberal government from using the money that was supposed to be distributed to needy students being distributed to needy students.
What a win!

Wow.
 
petros
+2
#51
Wouldnt it make more sense to just cut bursary cheques that go directly to tuition, fees and texts?

As it stands, there is money for students who can't work, it's called Provincial social assistance.
Last edited by petros; Jul 27th, 2020 at 10:53 PM..
 
Ron in Regina
Free Thinker
+3
#52
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

This program has wide support both with the public and with the political parties of Canada....

All the political parties except the NDP, the Bloc, & the Conservatives support this widely (I've no idea where Liz & the other two Greenies stand on this one) with the manner in which it was rolled (or is that dolled) out...and I'm assuming its support in what was its initial form with WE Charity Foundation having a sole (thank you on the soul save, BTW) source contract was supported by a proportionally similar (and even much of the Liberal Party supporters could smell this one coming and are holding their noses or outright repulsed at this one) amount of the general public as is seem with the political parties.
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

I don't care about your scandals. Get the money to the people who need it.

Who's Scandals? Who is the "your" you refer to above?



Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and his chief of staff Katie Telford will appear before the House of Commons finance committee Thursday to explain their roles in the decision to strike a partnership with We Charity — which has close ties with the Trudeau family — to deliver a $900 million student grant program. The committee is scheduled to hear from Trudeau from 3 p.m. to 4 p.m. and from Telford from 4:15 p.m. to 5:15 p.m.

Craig and Marc Kielburger, the founders of WE Charity, will appear before the finance committee Tuesday morning. The Kielburgers initially were scheduled to appear with WE Charity's CFO, Victor Li, from 1 pm to 2:30 pm, but at the request of the Conservatives, committee members agreed Monday to have Li appear on a different day later in the week. Conservative MP Pierre Poilievre asked to extend the time the Kielburgers would answer questions to four hours. MPs on the committee debated the witness list earlier today and agreed to ask the brothers — once they are before MPs on Tuesday — if they can stay that long and, if not, if they can return later in the week to complete the four hours of questioning.

Poilievre also moved a motion asking the committee to extend Trudeau's appearance from one hour to three. The MP also asked for Telford to appear for two hours instead of just one. The committee failed to agree to those time extensions before the meeting was adjourned. (The Finance Committee is 6 Liberals, 4 conservatives, 1 NDP, & 1 Bloc Member)



Shortly after it was announced that WE Charity would be running the program, the Liberal government came under fire from opposition parties over the Trudeau family's close relationship with the organization. Initially, WE Charity said members of the Trudeau family were not paid for appearing at WE events, although Sophie Grégoire Trudeau had been reimbursed for travel expenses. On July 9, it emerged that Trudeau's mother Margaret was paid approximately $250,000 for speaking at 28 events, while his brother Alexandre spoke at eight events and received about $32,000 (I'm sure the fact that these two where paid for their speaking engagements when it sounds like nobody else was by WE Charity or maybe WE Charity Foundation, unless that's also a lie, had nothing to do with the fact that Justin Trudeau is/was the sitting PM).

Earlier in July, Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner Mario Dion announced that he was launching an investigation into Trudeau over the government's decision to task the WE Charity with administering the summer student grant program. Dion said he will be investigating Trudeau under subsection 6(1) of the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Act, which prohibits public office holders from making decisions that further their own private interests or the interests of another person. Trudeau also is being investigated under sections 7 and 21 of the Act, which deal with giving someone preferential treatment and failing to recuse from a conflict of interest.



"I made a mistake in not recusing myself. I am sorry," Trudeau told reporters. Separately, the Commons Ethics Committee voted last week to call Trudeau before that committee to answer MPs' questions but the prime minister has yet to confirm his appearance.

Link: http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/we-c...emic-1.5664391

Documents shared with the Commons finance committee today suggest that although the Canada Student Service Grant program was allocated a $900 million budget, officials had drawn up a plan with the WE Charity Foundation to spend only a portion of that amount. (starting to sound familiar...)

According to the text of the contribution agreement signed June 23 between Youth Minister Bardish Chagger's office and the WE Charity Foundation, up to $500 million could have paid out in the form of grants to students across three cohorts of potential volunteers, while $43.53 million would have been allocated to the WE Charity Foundation for administering the program. Both Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and Finance Minister Bill Morneau are under investigation by the office of federal Ethics Commissioner Mario Dion over their failure to recuse themselves from cabinet discussions of the program, given the close ties between their families and WE Charity....etc....
 
pgs
Free Thinker
+1
#53
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Wouldnt it make more sense to just cut bursary cheques that go directly to tuition, fees and texts?

As it stands, there is money for students who can't work, it's called Provincial social assistance.

Where is the graft in that plan ? Shit do you think we work for free ?
 
pgs
Free Thinker
+1
#54
Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina View Post

All the political parties except the NDP, the Bloc, & the Conservatives support this widely (I've no idea where Liz & the other two Greenies stand on this one) with the manner in which it was rolled (or is that dolled) out...and I'm assuming its support in what was its initial form with WE Charity Foundation having a sole (thank you on the soul save, BTW) source contract was supported by a proportionally similar (and even much of the Liberal Party supporters could smell this one coming and are holding their noses or outright repulsed at this one) amount of the general public as is seem with the political parties. Who's Scandals? Who is the "your" you refer to above?



Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and his chief of staff Katie Telford will appear before the House of Commons finance committee Thursday to explain their roles in the decision to strike a partnership with We Charity — which has close ties with the Trudeau family — to deliver a $900 million student grant program. The committee is scheduled to hear from Trudeau from 3 p.m. to 4 p.m. and from Telford from 4:15 p.m. to 5:15 p.m.

Craig and Marc Kielburger, the founders of WE Charity, will appear before the finance committee Tuesday morning. The Kielburgers initially were scheduled to appear with WE Charity's CFO, Victor Li, from 1 pm to 2:30 pm, but at the request of the Conservatives, committee members agreed Monday to have Li appear on a different day later in the week. Conservative MP Pierre Poilievre asked to extend the time the Kielburgers would answer questions to four hours. MPs on the committee debated the witness list earlier today and agreed to ask the brothers — once they are before MPs on Tuesday — if they can stay that long and, if not, if they can return later in the week to complete the four hours of questioning.

Poilievre also moved a motion asking the committee to extend Trudeau's appearance from one hour to three. The MP also asked for Telford to appear for two hours instead of just one. The committee failed to agree to those time extensions before the meeting was adjourned. (The Finance Committee is 6 Liberals, 4 conservatives, 1 NDP, & 1 Bloc Member)



Shortly after it was announced that WE Charity would be running the program, the Liberal government came under fire from opposition parties over the Trudeau family's close relationship with the organization. Initially, WE Charity said members of the Trudeau family were not paid for appearing at WE events, although Sophie Grégoire Trudeau had been reimbursed for travel expenses. On July 9, it emerged that Trudeau's mother Margaret was paid approximately $250,000 for speaking at 28 events, while his brother Alexandre spoke at eight events and received about $32,000 (I'm sure the fact that these two where paid for their speaking engagements when it sounds like nobody else was by WE Charity or maybe WE Charity Foundation, unless that's also a lie, had nothing to do with the fact that Justin Trudeau is/was the sitting PM).

Earlier in July, Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner Mario Dion announced that he was launching an investigation into Trudeau over the government's decision to task the WE Charity with administering the summer student grant program. Dion said he will be investigating Trudeau under subsection 6(1) of the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Act, which prohibits public office holders from making decisions that further their own private interests or the interests of another person. Trudeau also is being investigated under sections 7 and 21 of the Act, which deal with giving someone preferential treatment and failing to recuse from a conflict of interest.



"I made a mistake in not recusing myself. I am sorry," Trudeau told reporters. Separately, the Commons Ethics Committee voted last week to call Trudeau before that committee to answer MPs' questions but the prime minister has yet to confirm his appearance.

Link: http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/we-c...emic-1.5664391

Documents shared with the Commons finance committee today suggest that although the Canada Student Service Grant program was allocated a $900 million budget, officials had drawn up a plan with the WE Charity Foundation to spend only a portion of that amount. (starting to sound familiar...)

According to the text of the contribution agreement signed June 23 between Youth Minister Bardish Chagger's office and the WE Charity Foundation, up to $500 million could have paid out in the form of grants to students across three cohorts of potential volunteers, while $43.53 million would have been allocated to the WE Charity Foundation for administering the program. Both Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and Finance Minister Bill Morneau are under investigation by the office of federal Ethics Commissioner Mario Dion over their failure to recuse themselves from cabinet discussions of the program, given the close ties between their families and WE Charity....etc....

But think of the children . And the Liberal war fund .
 
Jinentonix
No Party Affiliation
+2
#55
Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina View Post

All the political parties except the NDP, the Bloc, & the Conservatives support this widely (I've no idea where Liz & the other two Greenies stand on this one) with the manner in which it was rolled (or is that dolled) out...and I'm assuming its support in what was its initial form with WE Charity Foundation having a sole (thank you on the soul save, BTW) source contract was supported by a proportionally similar (and even much of the Liberal Party supporters could smell this one coming and are holding their noses or outright repulsed at this one) amount of the general public as is seem with the political parties. Who's Scandals? Who is the "your" you refer to above?



Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and his chief of staff Katie Telford will appear before the House of Commons finance committee Thursday to explain their roles in the decision to strike a partnership with We Charity — which has close ties with the Trudeau family — to deliver a $900 million student grant program. The committee is scheduled to hear from Trudeau from 3 p.m. to 4 p.m. and from Telford from 4:15 p.m. to 5:15 p.m.

Craig and Marc Kielburger, the founders of WE Charity, will appear before the finance committee Tuesday morning. The Kielburgers initially were scheduled to appear with WE Charity's CFO, Victor Li, from 1 pm to 2:30 pm, but at the request of the Conservatives, committee members agreed Monday to have Li appear on a different day later in the week. Conservative MP Pierre Poilievre asked to extend the time the Kielburgers would answer questions to four hours. MPs on the committee debated the witness list earlier today and agreed to ask the brothers — once they are before MPs on Tuesday — if they can stay that long and, if not, if they can return later in the week to complete the four hours of questioning.

Poilievre also moved a motion asking the committee to extend Trudeau's appearance from one hour to three. The MP also asked for Telford to appear for two hours instead of just one. The committee failed to agree to those time extensions before the meeting was adjourned. (The Finance Committee is 6 Liberals, 4 conservatives, 1 NDP, & 1 Bloc Member)



Shortly after it was announced that WE Charity would be running the program, the Liberal government came under fire from opposition parties over the Trudeau family's close relationship with the organization. Initially, WE Charity said members of the Trudeau family were not paid for appearing at WE events, although Sophie Grégoire Trudeau had been reimbursed for travel expenses. On July 9, it emerged that Trudeau's mother Margaret was paid approximately $250,000 for speaking at 28 events, while his brother Alexandre spoke at eight events and received about $32,000 (I'm sure the fact that these two where paid for their speaking engagements when it sounds like nobody else was by WE Charity or maybe WE Charity Foundation, unless that's also a lie, had nothing to do with the fact that Justin Trudeau is/was the sitting PM).

Earlier in July, Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner Mario Dion announced that he was launching an investigation into Trudeau over the government's decision to task the WE Charity with administering the summer student grant program. Dion said he will be investigating Trudeau under subsection 6(1) of the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Act, which prohibits public office holders from making decisions that further their own private interests or the interests of another person. Trudeau also is being investigated under sections 7 and 21 of the Act, which deal with giving someone preferential treatment and failing to recuse from a conflict of interest.



"I made a mistake in not recusing myself. I am sorry," Trudeau told reporters. Separately, the Commons Ethics Committee voted last week to call Trudeau before that committee to answer MPs' questions but the prime minister has yet to confirm his appearance.

Link: http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/we-c...emic-1.5664391

Documents shared with the Commons finance committee today suggest that although the Canada Student Service Grant program was allocated a $900 million budget, officials had drawn up a plan with the WE Charity Foundation to spend only a portion of that amount. (starting to sound familiar...)

According to the text of the contribution agreement signed June 23 between Youth Minister Bardish Chagger's office and the WE Charity Foundation, up to $500 million could have paid out in the form of grants to students across three cohorts of potential volunteers, while $43.53 million would have been allocated to the WE Charity Foundation for administering the program. Both Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and Finance Minister Bill Morneau are under investigation by the office of federal Ethics Commissioner Mario Dion over their failure to recuse themselves from cabinet discussions of the program, given the close ties between their families and WE Charity....etc....


Great post, waste of time trying to give facts to Hoid though. He's addicted to the taste of Prince Groper ass.
 
Jinentonix
No Party Affiliation
+3
#56
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

I don't care about your scandals.

Of course you don't because Prince Groper is at the center of them. Just like you didn't care about obstruction of justice because of 9000 jobs while not giving a shit about the 10's of thousands of jobs lost in the O&G sector. So clearly your concern really wasn't about jobs.

Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Get the money to the people who need it.

Hmmm for some strange reason I get the feeling your concern is about as genuine as the concern you had for SNC Lavalin jobs.
 
harrylee
Free Thinker
+1
#57
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

They have managed to stop the liberal government from using the money that was supposed to be distributed to needy students being distributed to needy students.
What a win!

There is no money, you moron....get that through yoyr fat head
 
harrylee
Free Thinker
+2
#58
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

They have managed to stop the liberal government from using the money that was supposed to be distributed to needy students being distributed to needy students.
What a win!

There is no money, you moron....get that through yoyr fat head
 
Hoid
#59
Thee's no money?

How can there be graft with no money?
 
Hoid
#60
The live interview of the WE charity founders seems to be letting all the air out of the "scandal".

There better be something worse than this going on to justify ****ing all those students out of all that money...