Gun Control is Completely Useless.

Quote: Originally Posted by turubawebmaster

One problem I think has been going on is unfair gas prices for different regions... People around Thunder Bay have been paying more for gas the last couple months and it's very shocking because almost everyone around there rely on driving... There is something not right about this... I see around Toronto they have pollution from the high density of cars and they have the choice of publice transportation... Why can't they pay just as much as people up north? If you really want to help decrease a demand on fuel I think companies should ship everything by rail rather than by truck.... Trains consume only half the fuel all the trucks on the road consume.... Not only our government, but the US government as well doesn't do anything when we complain about fuel demand.... I think the americans are especially the ones to use more trains than trucks.... The best way is spreading the message to everyone out there on how we can come out with a good solution

Quote: Originally Posted by RomSpaceKnight

So we shoud only have gun contol in urban areas but predominately rural areas you can own whatever gun you choose to?
So only rich people should own guns but poor immigrants should not be allowed to own guns?
Is you life in so much danger you feel you need to own a handgun?
Do you feel there is a chance that our goverment may turn into a totalitarian system and that we need to bear arms to ensure a free democracy?
Have you tried to get a motorcycle license and seen the hops you have to jump through (actually pylons you gotta drive around)?
Bureaucratic bumbling and cost overuns are a fact of life in Canadian politics. Is the idea of a gun registry so abhorrent to you?
Picking and choosing what states to quote for stats is, In my opinion, incorrect. A simple look at the US and divide by 10 (population ratios) works for me. The 3 provinces and state you picked do not have large urban areas like Toronto, Vancouver or Montreal. 3 cities have a huge proportion of the Canadian population. St. Johns NB is a peaceful backwater local in comparison. Not all of us live in idealic small towns. I grew up in a small town that had not had a murder in 50 years.

Quote: Originally Posted by RomSpaceKnight

And this applies to gun control how?

Quote: Originally Posted by turubawebmaster

no it's another issue I wanted to bring up

Quote: Originally Posted by gopher

I thought this topic had been closed.

One thing that may not have been considered is the fact that police in the USA are the ones who often lobby for gun control legislation. They especially picked up on their lobbying when semi-automatic guns hit the market and put them at great risk.

Quote: Originally Posted by BitWhys

so let it be written...

Quote: Originally Posted by L Gilbert

http://www.dumblaws.com/laws/international/canada/

http://www.anvari.org/shortjoke/Funny2/116.html

Peachy, huh?

Quote: Originally Posted by #juan

Somehow gun control became insanely expensive and I don't know how that happened but I don't think it is useless.

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One thing that was interesting was that the worst place for murders in the whole of the civilized world was the Northwest Territories.

FACT: Comparison of U.S. gun homicides to other industrialized countries:
In 1998 (the most recent year for which this data has been compiled), handguns murdered:

* 373 people in Germany
* 151 people in Canada
* 57 people in Australia
* 19 people in Japan
* 54 people in England and Wales, and
* 11,789 people in the United States

Quote: Originally Posted by gopher

I thought this topic had been closed.

One thing that may not have been considered is the fact that police in the USA are the ones who often lobby for gun control legislation. They especially picked up on their lobbying when semi-automatic guns hit the market and put them at great risk.

Quote: Originally Posted by RomSpaceKnight

Non refer to the thread on gun control. Or is the point that gun control laws are not dumb.

Canada's national crime rate, based on incidents reported to police, fell 5% last year — despite increases in serious crimes such as homicide, attempted murder, serious assaults and robbery.

So we shoud only have gun contol in urban areas but predominately rural areas you can own whatever gun you choose to? So only rich people should own guns but poor immigrants should not be allowed to own guns?

Is you life in so much danger you feel you need to own a handgun?

Do you feel there is a chance that our goverment may turn into a totalitarian system and that we need to bear arms to ensure a free democracy?

Have you tried to get a motorcycle license and seen the hops you have to jump through (actually pylons you gotta drive around)?

Bureaucratic bumbling and cost overuns are a fact of life in Canadian politics. Is the idea of a gun registry so abhorrent to you?

Picking and choosing what states to quote for stats is, In my opinion, incorrect. A simple look at the US and divide by 10 (population ratios) works for me. The 3 provinces and state you picked do not have large urban areas like Toronto, Vancouver or Montreal. 3 cities have a huge proportion of the Canadian population. St. Johns NB is a peaceful backwater local in comparison. Not all of us live in idealic small towns. I grew up in a small town that had not had a murder in 50 years.

Quote: Originally Posted by RomSpaceKnight

All these debates come down to he said, she said, you started it, tossing around of stats and facts for both sides of argument. When it comes down to it these are the laws of this land and they will be enforced and obeyed.

I will give folk of the conservative bent some leeway here. Conservatives like lax gun laws and strict drug laws for the most part. While those of us with a more liberal bent prefer lax drug laws and strict gun control. I think banning handguns ,strictly controlling long guns and banning hard drugs and strictly controlling marijuana is the middle road. As opposed to unrestrictive gun laws and prohibition on marijuana or total gun bans and hard drugs being treated like alcohol and nicotine. Which are topics for another thread.

Quote: Originally Posted by #juan

First off, the cost of the gun control program is a disgusting, flagrant, waste.

Apart from that, can someone tell me what use a handgun is to anyone but police and armoured car guards and the like, where these people are needed to protect property and life? If target shooters can convince the authorities that they are sane and responsible, I suppose they can own handguns as long as they follow the rules.

Handguns are useless for hunting unless you want to go up north and provoke a grizzley with a 44 magnum. Handguns were designed for killing people, nothing else.

Rifles and shotguns are easy to buy, and for a short range defensive weapon, the shotgun has no equal.