Britain threatens Russia with military and economic retaliation over spy poisoning


Blackleaf
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Theresa May is drawing up a “full spectrum” retaliation against Vladimir Putin for the nerve agent hit on spy Sergei Skripal, The Sun can reveal.

The PM has told ministers to prepare a powerful response across diplomatic, economic and military fronts to punish the Salisbury outrage - dubbed by Home Secretary Amber Rudd as “a brazen and reckless act”.

Intelligence chiefs are just “a few days” away from establishing hard proof that the poison plot was ordered by Moscow.

Senior Whitehall sources said Mrs May accepts she must then initiate a response to match the public uproar that will meet the revelation that another state was behind a chemical weapons attack on British soil.


UK'S 'NEW COLD WAR' Theresa May threatens military and economic retaliation against Russia if Vladimir Putin is proven to be behind poisoned spy attack

Such measures proposed include the immediate expulsion of Russian diplomats and pushing for a Nato-wide reinforcement in Eastern Europe

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By Tom Newton Dunn, Political Editor
9th March 2018
The Sun

THERESA May is drawing up a “full spectrum” retaliation against Vladimir Putin for the nerve agent hit on spy Sergei Skripal, The Sun can reveal.

The PM has told ministers to prepare a powerful response across diplomatic, economic and military fronts to punish the Salisbury outrage - dubbed by Home Secretary Amber Rudd as “a brazen and reckless act”.

Theresa May told ministers to prepare for diplomatic, economic and military retaliation against Russia for the chemical weapons attack on British soil

Intelligence chiefs are just “a few days” away from establishing hard proof that the poison plot was ordered by Moscow.

Senior Whitehall sources said Mrs May accepts she must then initiate a response to match the public uproar that will meet the revelation that another state was behind a chemical weapons attack on British soil.

It will include:

  • The immediate expulsion of senior Russian diplomats and spies, as well as potentially cancelling Kremlin-linked oligarchs' visas to London, plus asset freezes and travel bans.
  • A statement of joint international condemnation from Britain’s closest allies - France’s President Emmanuel Macron and German leader Angela Merkel.
  • In the longer term, boosting Britain’s military deployments in Eastern Europe with more jets and troops, as well as a pushing for a NATO-wide reinforcement at the alliance’s summit in July.


Spooks are scrambling to work out the Kremlin masterplan behind the attempted murder of Skripal and his daughter Yulia amid fears more mayhem is planned

What we know so far:

  • Ex-Russian spy Sergei Skripal, 66, and his daughter Yulia, 33, were found unconscious on a bench in Salisbury on Sunday
  • Police say they were deliberately targeted with a rare nerve agent
  • Cops cordoned off his house and the grave of his wife and son fearing others could be exposed to the poison
  • The first Wiltshire cop on the scene is also ill in hospital - but hopes were raised for his recovery now he is awake and talking
  • A blonde woman with a red handbag is being hunted after being caught on CCTV minutes before the hit
  • Cops say the poison may have been slipped into a gift Yulia brought from Moscow
  • Spooks also believe the Russians may have had their drinks spiked in a pub or a Zizzi's restaurant
  • Theresa May has vowed revenge on Putin over the 'hit'
  • Russian state TV warned 'traitor' double-agents they are not safe in the UK
  • It was claimed Yulia Skripal may have been poisoned after calling for Putin to be jailed on Facebook as doctors reveal her fight for life
  • It was revealed Sergei's MI6 contact had links to poisoned ex-spy Alexander Litvinenko


One senior minister said the UK has now entered a new Cold War with Russia

Military scientists at Porton Down expect to be able to soon say beyond any doubt that the rare poison was devised in the SVR Russian foreign spy service’s notorious Yasenevo labs in Moscow.

One senior minister told The Sun: “We are in a new Cold War with Russia that is beginning to get hot.

“We need to completely overhaul our posture to reflect that.

“This is all about debilitating the West, so we have to reverse the psychology and make Putin look weak.”

The minister added: “Putin doesn’t dare attack the US, so he goes for us instead because of all the government’s current troubles. It is crucial we are seen to stand up to that”.

Spy bosses are also scrambling to work out the Kremlin masterplan behind the attempted murder of Colonel Skripal and daughter Yulia, The Sun has also been told, amid fears more mayhem is planned.

Home Secretary Amber Rudd dubbed the attempted assassination of Sergei Skripal 'a brazen and reckless act'

MI5 and MI6 were left startled by the audacity of the Russian president’s “wet job” order, which he knew would be swiftly traced back to Moscow because of the poison's complexity.

Under Russian law, foreign assassinations can only be authorised by the President himself.

A senior security source dubbed the nerve agent hit a “seriously balls in your face” move.

The source added: “Why have they done this? What is their next move?

“This is what we’re trying to work out now. Putin is without doubt a deluded individual, and that makes him dangerous.”

Ex-Russian spy Sergei Skripal and daughter Yulia remain in a critical condition in hospital following the nerve agent attack on Sunday

Activity across Whitehall was intense last night to prepare for the retaliation, with the MoD, the Treasury, the Foreign Office and Home Office all drawing up a series of options for No10.

Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson is preparing a major telephone lobbying operation for Britain’s European allies in a bid to sign up to a joint statement of condemnation, as well as potential action at the UN.

Diplomats along with MI5 are drawing up an extensive list of Russian figures to expel, from declared SVR intelligence officers to oligarchs who back Mr Putin.

The PM will take a final decision on how many to throw out once the full intelligence assessment is delivered to her – which could come as early as the weekend.

Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson will call on Britain's European allies to sign a joint statement of condemnation against Russia

The UK will look towards its closest European allies Germany's Angela Merkel and France's Emmanuel Macron

And defence chiefs are looking at deploying another squadron of Typhoon jets to Estonia, and an extra army battalion to Poland or Romania to bolster defences against renewed Russian aggression.

Pressure was mounting on Mrs May last night for the toughest response possible.

Backbench Tory MP Sir Edward Leigh dubbed it “a brazen act of war” if Russia is behind the attack.

Furious senior Tories even called for Russia’s ambassador to be ejected and his embassy closed down.

Accusing Putin of “behaving like a rogue state”, former Foreign Secretary Sir Malcom Rifkind added: “It is becoming progressively more difficult to contemplate normal diplomatic relations with such a government”.

Cops searching the home of Skripal in Salisbury, Wiltshire

Tory MP Sir Nicolas Soames (Sir Winston Churchill's grandson) tweeted: “The West has been pretty pathetic in sticking up for Democracy in Moscow and weak on Russian interference in Ukraine, the Balkans and Syria #forgoodnesssakewakeupandgetagrip”.

The Home Secretary vowed to bring Colonel Skripal’s twisted attackers to justice, as she branded his poisoning “a most outrageous crime”.

Addressing MPs in an emergency Commons statement, Ms Rudd also revealed the Government’s outrage over the chemical weapons use, saying: “The use of a nerve agent on UK soil was a brazen and reckless act”.

Home Secretary Amber Rudd updates MPs in Commons on nerve agent attack on ex-Russian spy Sergei Skripal



Significantly, she also repeatedly refused to dampen down mounting speculation about Moscow’s involvement.

In a strong suggestion of the retaliation to come, Ms Rudd instead told MPs: “There will come a time for attribution, and further consequences will then follow”.

Other MPs called for wider action, with Tom Tugendhat saying that Putin used "murder as an instrument of state policy" as he urged for a co-ordinated boycott of the World Cup.

His call was backed by Labour's Chris Bryant, who suggested it would be "difficult" for England to take part if Russian state involvement in the attack was proven, according to The Daily Mail.

The PM called for the police to be given “the time and space to actually conduct their investigation”.

But Mrs May added: “We will do what is appropriate, we will do what is right, if it is proved to be the case that this is State sponsored”.

But Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson told ITV1’s Good Morning Britain that President Putin’s regime posed an “ever greater threat” to Britain and the UK must be not be “pushed around” by another nation.

The Russian embassy in London tried again to pour cold water on the frenzied speculation.

It tweeted: “When Boris Berezovsky and Alexander Perepilichny died in Britain, there was a lot of speculation in the media, then all the conclusions were classified, and no data provided to Russia.

"Same happening now, with MI6 agent Sergei Skripal poisoning”.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/576128...ipal-poisoned/
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Danbones
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Quote:

It was revealed Sergei's MI6 contact had links to poisoned ex-spy Alexander Litvinenko

Alexander Litvinenko was a former Russian spy who was killed in London in 2006 by radioactive polonium-210.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/259536...b-killers-tea/

What does the queen do with traitors who defect, have them over for tea, or trap them in an embassy when they are found not guilty, and prosecute them anyway like with Julian Assange?
 
Blackleaf
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Poisoned Russian spy was 'codenamed Forthwith' and remained 'highly valued' by MI6 even AFTER settling in Britain following exchange that led to release of glamorous GRU agent Anna Chapman



Sergei Skripal (left), who was 'deliberately targeted' in a nerve agent attack along with his daughter in Salisbury on Sunday, was regarded as a 'highly valued spy' for MI6. Mr Skripal, 66, provided a wealth of intelligence on the GRU - Russia's foreign intelligence service - over a ten-year period, according to The Times. Among the trove of data supplied to British authorities was the GRU's entire telephone directory. He was jailed for 13 years in 2006 and was only released in the high-profile spy-swap which involved glamourous Russian agent Anna Chapman (right), who had been caught spying in the US.
 
Danbones
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I see..so when is the ol qweenie going to release julian who is being held because he told the truth ? He isn't even "suspected" anymore.

The pair are suspected of assassinating Putin critic and ex-spy Litvinenko in London using radioactive polonium over a decade ago.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/259536...b-killers-tea/

In the ol USSR, "suspected" was all the state needed....
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Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by Danbones View Post

I see..so when is the ol qweenie going to release julian who is being held because he told the truth ?

Assange can rot in the Ecuadorean Embassy in Knightsbridge for all I care.
 
Danbones
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Yeah court proven innocence brings that out in people, while you hang putin on unproven BS

lol, too funny.

The queen prolly had the guy whacked herself, just because.
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by Danbones View Post

Yeah court proven innocence brings that out in people, while you hang putin on unproven BS

Who do you think poisoned a Russian spy who now works for MI6?
 
Curious Cdn
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You've got to wonder what kind of "military retaliation" to this the UK is capable of.
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

You've got to wonder what kind of "military retaliation" to this the UK is capable of.

Land, sea, air.
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

Land, sea, air.

You're gonna huff and you're gonna puff ...
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

You're gonna huff and you're gonna puff ...

And we'll blow their house down.
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

And we'll blow their house down.

Yeah. Right.
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Yeah. Right.

I knew you'd agree eventually.
 
Cannuck
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Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

You're gonna huff and you're gonna puff ...

Pretty much all they can do unless their allies want to go to bat for them. I personally could care less about Brittain. All the Brittish soldiers coming to Medicine Hat, are dying to find Canadian women so they can stay.

Most of them are pedophiles with bad teeth... a rather disgusting people in general.
 
taxslave
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Better by a couple more 3D printers to fill out that pretend navy.
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

Better by a couple more 3D printers to fill out that pretend navy.

Is that was the Canadians do? Print out warships?

We build ours.
 
taxslave
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We don't have any.
 
justlooking
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Quote: Originally Posted by Danbones View Post

What does the queen do with traitors who defect, have them over for tea,

Treason is a dangerous business.

Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

You've got to wonder what kind of "military retaliation" to this the UK is capable of.

Absolutely none.

Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

You're gonna huff and you're gonna puff ...

No, if the UK had any brains, they would get rocking on some fracking, it seems they are sitting on some
pretty large gas reserves.

Because buying Russian gas is really gonna show the Russkies who is boss.
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Briddin's gonna send Her Majesty's Light Pensioners, commanded by Prince Phil himself, to give the blighters what-for, eh what?
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by justlooking View Post

Because buying Russian gas is really gonna show the Russkies who is boss.

That may or may not be that case, but that doesn't concern Britain. Britain doesn't use Russian gas. She gets hers from the North Sea and Irish Sea.
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

Briddin's gonna send Her Majesty's Light Pensioners, commanded by Prince Phil himself, to give the blighters what-for, eh what?

The Russians will face off against Bobbys blowing whistles, again.
 
Hoid
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What will they do? Put a tariff on fish and chips?
 
Blackleaf
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Salisbury diners told to wash possessions

11 March 2018
BBC News



Up to 500 Salisbury pub-goers and diners told to wash possessions as precaution after nerve agent traces found

Trace amounts of the substance used to poison ex-Russian spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter were found at the Mill pub and Zizzi restaurant.

Prof Dame Sally Davies, the chief medical officer for England, said the risk of harm was "low".

The advice applies to anyone in either venue after 13:30 on Sunday.

Salisbury diners told to wash possessions - BBC News

Coffee House

With 240 potential witnesses, were Skripal’s poisoners trying to send a message?


James Forsyth





Sergei Skripal

James Forsyth
10 March 2018
The Spectator

‘Any fool can commit murder, but it takes an artist to make it look like suicide’, the KGB used to say. But whoever put Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia in hospital was rather less subtle: police have identified 240 potential witnesses, according to Amber Rudd, and have extensive CCTV coverage to go through.

I write in The Sun this morning that anyone capable of getting hold of the nerve agent used was capable of killing him in a far more subtle manner – with no witnesses and nothing in CCTV. Whoever carried out the attack on Skripal wanted to send a message. They wanted to prove that enemies of Russia are not safe wherever they may be. They also wanted to highlight Western impotence; to show how the liberal democratic world struggles to deal with attacks that come wrapped in a cloak of deniability.

It is currently hard to escape the conclusion that the UK government’s passivity in the face of Alexander Litvinenko’s murder has emboldened Putin’s friends to carry out another attack in Britain

This time it must be different. The UK needs to make clear that Russia will pay a price for this kind of behaviour.

We should use social media to spread the word in Russia about just how rich Putin, his family and his cronies are. Ahead of the Russian elections later this month, Putin released details of his wealth. They suggested he had around £175,000 in the bank, some shares in a bank, a flat and a few sportscars.

But considering that his son in law had to essentially give away close to $2 billion worth of shares when he broke up with Putin’s daughter, it is safe to assume his real worth is massively more than this.

Getting this information out there in Russia would embarrass Putin. Combine this with far sharper sanctions on his associates, allies and enablers and his gang would think twice about letting people carry out assassination attempts on British soil.

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/0...end-a-message/
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justlooking
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Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

That may or may not be that case, but that doesn't concern Britain. Britain doesn't use Russian gas. She gets hers from the North Sea and Irish Sea.

Yeah.
No.


 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by justlooking View Post

Yeah.
No.


How much of Britain's gas actually comes from Russia? As the graphic shows, only a third of Europe's gas comes from Russia - but how much of that goes to Britain?

The UK is the least dependent on foreign sources of energy out of the five EU countries who consume the largest amounts of energy overall (Germany, France, Italy, Spain and the UK).
 
justlooking
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Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

Britain doesn't use Russian gas.

Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

How much of Britain's gas actually comes from Russia?

Obviously more than zero.


I don't forget the these are the numbers British Gas are willing to release,
which have probably been 'massaged' anyway.

You should be more careful making absolute blanket statements.
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by justlooking View Post

Obviously more than zero.


I don't forget the these are the numbers British Gas are willing to release,
which have probably been 'massaged' anyway.

You should be more careful making absolute blanket statements.

But is it enough for the British to fear the Russians turning the supply off?

From The Guardian, Friday 29th December 2017:

The first-ever shipment of Russian gas to the UK looks likely to head straight back out on another ship, disproving Moscow’s claims that Britain will be reliant on it for supplies this winter.

National Grid confirmed that gas from a Russian field targeted by US sanctions had been delivered by a Russian icebreaker to storage facilities at the Isle of Grain in Kent on Thursday night.

Russian media seized on the delivery of liquefied natural gas (LNG) to claim it would “keep Britons from freezing this winter” while the Russian embassy in the UK tweeted: “Feeling cold? Help is on the way.”

However, industry experts said the most likely scenario was that the UK would simply be a stopping-off point for the gas, which could fetch a much higher price in Asia.

https://www.theguardian.com/business...kely-remain-uk

 
Blackleaf
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Russian spy: Salisbury diners told to wash possessions

BBC News
11 March 2018


Prof Dame Sally Davies, the Chief Medical Officer for England, said the risk of harm was "low"

Up to 500 Salisbury pub-goers and diners have been told to wash possessions as a precaution after nerve agent traces were found.

Trace amounts of the substance used to poison ex-Russian spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter were found on and around a table where the pair ate at Zizzi restaurant, the BBC has learned.

The table, along with other items, has been removed and destroyed.

Scientists have advised police it could take weeks for the premises to reopen.

Traces of the nerve agent were also found at the Mill pub in Salisbury.

Sergei and Yulia Skripal, who remain in a critical but stable condition in hospital, are understood to have eaten on a table away from other diners.

Prof Dame Sally Davies, the chief medical officer for England, said the risk of harm to fellow diners was "low".

The advice to wash possessions applies to anyone in either venue after 13:30 GMT on Sunday 4 March.

People who were at either venue before closure on Monday are advised to do the following:

Clothes should be washed, ideally in a washing machine
Clothes which cannot be washed, for example if they need dry cleaning, should be double bagged in plastic until further notice
Mobile phones, handbags and other electronic items should be wiped with baby wipes, which should be bagged in plastic and put in the bin
Other items such as jewellery and glasses should be washed with warm water and detergent
Hands should be washed after the handling of any items suspected of being contaminated.


Dame Sally said after "rigorous scientific analysis" there was some concern that prolonged exposure over weeks and months could cause health problems but it was "not a subject for panic".

She said the advice was a "belt and braces" measure, adding: "The risk to the general public remains low and I am confident none of these customers or staff will have suffered harm."

BBC correspondent Kathryn Stanczyszyn said people in Salisbury are starting to ask why the advice had not been issued before now.

Dame Sally said it had been a "painstaking process" and the "scientific tests take time" but no harm had been caused by the wait.


Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia are still critically ill in hospital

Alastair Hay, professor emeritus of environmental toxicology at the University of Leeds, said nerve agents degrade in the environment.

"Contact with moisture will lead to breakdown of the nerve agent - this is why people having visited the restaurant or pub in question last Sunday afternoon or Monday are being advised to wash their possessions," he said.

Mr Skripal, 66, and his daughter Yulia, 33, are both critically ill in hospital after being found slumped on a bench in the city on Sunday.

Det Sgt Nick Bailey, who fell ill attending the pair, remains seriously ill in hospital but has been talking to his family.

The pub and restaurant are two of five sites in Salisbury focused on by investigators.

Mr Skripal's home and the cemetery where Mr Skripal's wife and son are buried are also being examined.

At a press conference on Sunday, Chief Constable Kier Pritchard of Wiltshire Police said he was "unable to clarify" how long those crime scenes would remain closed to the public.


Det Sgt Nick Bailey remains in hospital

A 30-year-old man has been charged with breaching a cordon at one of the sites, The Maltings shopping area, on Friday night.

He was also charged with assaulting a police officer, criminal damage to a police vehicle, common assault and a racially aggravated public order offence, and is due before magistrates in Swindon on Monday.

Members of the military are assisting police for a third day having previously helped with the removal of vehicles of interest including an ambulance.

More than 250 counter terrorism police are now involved in the investigation, which has yielded 200 pieces of evidence so far and more than 240 witnesses.

Mr Skripal, a retired Russian military intelligence officer, was convicted by the Russian government of passing secrets to MI6 in 2004, but given refuge in the UK in 2010 as part of a "spy swap".

Russia has denied any involvement.


The advice affects anyone at the Mill pub between 13:30 on Sunday and its closure at 23.10 on Monday


Russian spy: Salisbury diners told to wash possessions - BBC News
 
Cliffy
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Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

You've got to wonder what kind of "military retaliation" to this the UK is capable of.

They are going to fart in Russia's general direction.
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

They are going to fart in Russia's general direction.

That would probably seriously damage those crappy, rusting ships in Russia's navy - including the Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier, which is so unreliable that the carrier is accompanied by a large ocean-going tug whenever it deploys, in case it breaks down.