Why are we refining Russian oil instead of using our own?


petros
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As August began, three tankers with a combined capacity of almost two million barrels of oil prepared to pass through the Strait of Juan de Fuca to refineries in Washington state. Two of these ships were American, en route from Alaska. The third, the Nordtulip, flying the Portuguese flag, was delivering Russian oil.

Why, you might ask, would Russian oil be feeding Pacific Northwest refineries? Why is Russian oil helping to fuel cars in B. C.?

Alaska’s production is declining. Huge tankers still deliver oil to Washington refineries, but the amount is dwindling. It has to be made up from somewhere because, despite electric vehicles, demand for oil is projected to increase every year until 2040.

If you own a refinery in the Pacific Northwest, Russian oil is a substitute for the shortfall from Alaska. Unfortunately, you can’t say the same for Canadian oil. Although it originates thousands of kilometres closer, pipelines are operating at 100 per cent capacity and shipping by rail from Alberta or North Dakota comes with its own problems.

So why not use Russian oil? We all know Russian oil is extracted according to the strictest environmental standards, workers operate under the best conditions and the Indigenous people are consulted whenever any work would affect their environment. Oh, and let’s not forget about Vladimir Putin, that great defender of democracy and human rights. As my grandson might say, “Not!”

We know we’d much rather buy oil from Canada than Russia. I just don’t believe, given the choice, Canadians would rather get oil from a brutal dictatorship thousands of kilometres away than from a province right next door.

The refineries in Washington state that supply some of B.C.’s gasoline want Canadian oil, too. At Anacortes, where the Nordtulip docked after its voyage from Vladivostok, both refineries get some oil from the Trans Mountain pipeline. The Andeavor refinery has made a “significant” commitment for more Alberta oil over the next 10 to 15 years.

But before they can get it, the Trans Mountain extension must be built.

Canada must be the only country in the world where a vocal minority of citizens protest against using their most valuable natural resource to maintain one of the world’s highest standards of living, best health care, pensions, education and other benefits too numerous to list.

Does Canadian oil contribute to greenhouse gas emissions? Of course, it does.

Should that be a reason for us to leave it to other countries — many of them with totalitarian governments — to supply a demand that’s going to exist whether we help fill it or not?

Canadian oil is getting cleaner: A barrel of oil from the latest oilsands facility compares favourably with the world average. Technological improvements continue to lower the GHG emissions involved in its production.

Transporting Canadian versus Russian oil is a no-brainer. If you’re concerned about emissions from transportation, a pipeline always beats a tanker. Let’s not forget that spills from the current Trans Mountain pipeline over the past few decades probably don’t add up to a year’s worth of accidental discharges from commercial shipping in the Strait of Juan de Fuca.

Most important, Canada is a democracy. We have a process that, if flawed, gives a voice to communities and First Nations. We have legal protections for workers that benefit hundreds of thousands in the industry and millions in our communities. Russia, Saudi Arabia and Nigeria — three places from which Canadians get oil — don’t bother to consider such niceties.

Why are we supporting corrupt and dictatorial regimes in Saudi Arabia and Russia by buying their oil, rather than supporting our fellow Canadians who share our values and contribute to our prosperity?

Given the challenges we face internationally, it’s time to stand up for our country. We’ll face some tough choices as we do, one of which will be over the Trans Mountain expansion. I know where I stand and where I believe a large majority of my fellow Canadians do, too.

Joseph Maloney is international vice-president for Canada of the International Brotherhood of Boilermakers.
 
Twin_Moose
#2
Very good article, question wouldn't that Oil break the UN sanctions agreement?
 
taxslave
+1
#3
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

Very good article, question wouldn't that Oil break the UN sanctions agreement?

The UN is a useless toothless paper tiger.
 
taxslave
+2
#4
Flossy and Hoid would much rather get oil from Russia than Alberta.
 
Twin_Moose
#5
Don't forget Cliffy as well
 
Hoid
#6
don't want to buy oil from Russia - want to sell oil to China.
 
pgs
+1
#7
Those Neanderthalís in Alberta donít deserve our money . Letís give it to Putin instead . Canada land of the fó-ed .
 
Danbones
+1
#8
There is so much capped oil in prudhoe bay It can't even be counted.

Williams had witnessed a huge oil discovery at Gull Island (5 miles north of Prudhoe Bay in the Beaufort Sea) that could have produced so much oil, that the official said that another pipeline could be built “and in another year’s time we can flood America with oil- Alaskan oil … and we won’t have to worry about the Arabs.” However, a few days after the find, the Federal Government ordered the documents and technical reports locked up, the well capped, and the rig withdrawn.

Antony C. Sutton wrote in Energy: The Created Crisis:

“Our mythical energy shortage can be dismissed with a few statistics. The U.S. consumes about 71 quads (a ‘quad’ is one quadrillion BTU’s, or 10 to the 15th power British Thermal Units) of energy per year. There is available now in the U.S., excluding solar sources and without oil and gas imports, about 151,000 quads. Consequently, we have sufficient energy resources to keep us functioning at our present rate of consumption for about 2,000 to 3,000 years
https://peakoil.com/production/how-l...comment-page-1

Because I get my oil tips from an insider, I have been ahead of the price curve ( both directions) for the past 10 years.


lucky me.

Ps: I did say to buy oil related stocks LAST summer because the price was going up...The Us would become the worlds biggest exporter while still buying for local use, because that really sucks for the common man, but makes beaucoup bucks for "THE MAN".

did anyone listen?
Last edited by Danbones; Sep 19th, 2018 at 08:51 PM..
 
taxslave
+1
#9
Going to be tough going for hoid and flossy. LNG Canada wil anounce sometime next week that the Kitamat LNG plant is a go. $40 BILLION project. And they said it couldn't be done.
 
Hoid
#10
Amazing how you could be so wrong about the Kinder Morgan pipeline yet still shoot your mouth off about LNG.
 
Serryah
#11
IMO...

If Canada would guarantee that the oil shipped East would be refined and used in Canada first, likely that would be good enough to get the pipeline through.

Though I personally don't like pipelines, I'd be good if it was meant for us and not other countries.
 
petros
+1
#12
Right now America is the East's best option.
 
pgs
+2
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

IMO...

If Canada would guarantee that the oil shipped East would be refined and used in Canada first, likely that would be good enough to get the pipeline through.

Though I personally don't like pipelines, I'd be good if it was meant for us and not other countries.

The waterin your taps comes through a pipeline .
 
petros
+1
#14
And carries water and shit out. Then there is the dreaded NG pipelines our houses tie directly into.

How many NG pipelines have exploded so far this year and how many dead or seriously injured?

How many oil pipelines have killed or seriously injured people this year?
 
Hoid
#15
2017
On January 7, a Colonial Pipeline stubline leaked gasoline into Shoal Creek, in Chattanooga, Tennessee.[274]
On January 14, the Ozark Pipeline, an Enbridge, now Marathon, division, spilled about 18,900 gallons of light oil, at the Lawrence Pump Station, near Halltown, Missouri.[275]
On January 16, a gas pipeline exploded and burned, near Spearman, Texas. There were no injuries.[276]
On January 19, a Tallgrass Pony Express Pipeline failed in Logan County, Colorado, spilling about 420,300 gallons of crude oil. The cause of the failure was unknown.[171]
On January 25, a Magellan pipeline leaked 46,830 gallons (1,115 barrels) of diesel fuel onto private agricultural land, in Worth County, Iowa, near Hanlontown.[277][278]
On January 30, a Texas Department of Transportation crew dug into the 30-inch-diameter Seaway Pipeline, near Blue Ridge, Texas, spraying crude oil across road. About 210,000 gallons of crude were spilled. There were no injuries.[279][265]
On January 31, a DCP pipeline exploded under a runway, at Panola County Airport-Sharpe Field in Texas. There were no injuries, but the airport shut that runway down for an extended amount of time.[280]
On February 9, a Phillips 66 natural gas liquids pipeline (TENDS pipeline Sorrento system)[281] near the Williams-Discovery natural gas plant on US Route 90 near Paradis, Louisiana exploded while being cleaned, killing one worker, and sending another worker to a burn unit. Traffic on US 90 and La 631 was shut down and residents in the area evacuated.[282][283][284]
On February 15, 2017, a 36-inch-diameter Kinder Morgan natural gas pipeline exploded and burned in Refugio County, Texas. There were no injuries.[285] The flames were visible 50 miles away. Refugio County Chief Deputy Sheriff Gary Wright said the explosion occurred at an apparent weak point in the pipeline that must have required maintenance, but KM disputed the issue.[286] Residents as far as 60 miles away thought it was an earthquake, while others described it as "a thunder roll that wouldn’t end.”[287] According to the PHMSA incident listing, "the incident was most likely caused by some combination of stress factors on the pipeline." The explosion and resulting fire cost $525,197 in property damage. The pipe was installed in 1964.[179]
On February 27, a crude oil pipeline ruptured in Falls City, Texas, spilling about 42,630 gallons of crude oil. The cause was from internal corrosion.[265]
On March 29, a natural-gas leak of a high-pressure pipeline, in Providence, Rhode Island, owned by Spectra Energy, released about 19 million cubic feet of natural gas, or enough natural gas to heat and keep the lights on for 190,000 homes for a single day. Approximately two gallons of polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs) were also released, in the form of contaminated natural gas condensate.[288]
On April 4, a pump on the Dakota Access Pipeline spilled about 84 gallons of oil, at a pump station in Tulare, South Dakota. The leak was not noticed until May 9.[289]
On April 13 and 14, it was discovered that Energy Transfer Partners spilled drilling fluid into two separate wetlands in rural Ohio while constructing the Rover Pipeline. The spills occurred in wetlands near Richland County, Ohio. The spill on the 13th released 2 million gallons of drilling fluid and the spill on the 14th released approximately 50,000 gallons of drilling fluid.[290][291]
On April 21, a Plains All American Pipeline, experienced a crude oil release on the Buffalo Pipeline, near Loyal, Oklahoma. About 19,000 gallons of crude oil were spilled.[292]
On April 22, a 1,050-gallon oil pipeline spill near Bismarck, North Dakota polluted a tributary of the Little Missouri River, but was prevented from flowing into the larger waterway.[293]
On May 8, a Wood River Pipelines (part of Koch Industries) line broke in Warrensburg, Illinois, spill 250 gallons of crude oil.[294]
On May 25, workers were installing a replacement pipeline at a tank battery, near Mead, Colorado, when there was an explosion and fire. One worker was killed, and, 3 others injured.[295][296]
On July 13, a contractor doing maintenance on Magellan's Longhorn Pipeline hit that pipeline, in Bastrop County, Texas. About 87,000 gallons of crude oil were spilled, resulting in evacuations of nearby residents.[297][298]
On July 27, while installing a water pipeline by horizontal drilling, a contractor hit a ONEOK Natural Gas Liquids pipeline, spilling about 126,000 gallons of NGL's, near Watford City, North Dakota.[299]
On August 2, a pipeline leaked up to 1,000 gallons of oil, in Signal Hill, California.[300]
On August 2, a contractor ruptured a jet fuel pipeline, in Parkland, Washington.[301]
On August 2, 2017, a natural gas explosion and fire struck the Minnehaha Academy in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Workers may have been moving a gas meter when the explosion hit, killing two people and injuring at least nine others, according to investigators.[302][303]
On September 22, a gas pipeline exploded and burned in Welda, Kansas. There were no injuries.[304]
On September 22, fire broke out at a substation of the Iroquois Pipeline, causing homes to be evacuated and about two miles of Route 37 to be shut down for several hours, near Waddington, New York. The cause of the failure was never found.[305][306]
On October 18, Louisiana-based oil company LLOG Exploration had a crude oil spill of about 672,000 gallons, 40 miles southeast of Venice, Louisiana, citing the cause as a cracked pipeline under the Gulf of Mexico.[307]
On October 23, 2017, at a facility owned by EDC-Timken, operated and maintained by Columbia Gas Transmission in Navarre, Ohio, an unintended natural gas release was noted by the onsite company personnel. While investigating the sound, the single bolt hinged closure, that appeared to be the source of the release, failed. The closure failure fatally injured one technician. The equipment was installed in 1989.[179] The leak just south of Canton, Ohio, forced authorities to evacuate a neighborhood.[308]
On November 16, the Keystone Pipeline leaked about 408,500 gallons of crude oil, near Amherst, South Dakota. The pipeline was shut down within 15 minutes of the leak's discovery. Later, the NTSB found a metal tracked vehicle had run over this section of pipeline, causing the damage.[309] During cleanup activities, state officials say a semi-trailer driver hauling hazardous material to and from the Keystone oil pipeline leak site purposely dumped soil contaminated with crude oil on the side of a northeastern South Dakota road.[310] The original estimate was doubled to 9,600 barrels (400,000 US gal) in April 2018.[311][312][313]
On November 16, three men were injured in a gas pipeline fire in northeastern Weld County, Colorado. One later died of his injuries.[314][315]
On November 20, 2017, Kinder Morgan’s Connecticut Expansion Project's pipeline test at the Agawam, Massachusetts compressor station discharged 16,500 gallons of hazardous wastewater onto the soil of the compressor station yard; the wastewater contained heavy metals, lead, and carcinogens such as tetrachloroethylene and phthalate. Kinder Morgan blamed subcontractor Henkels & McCoy for an operator error.[316]
On November 20, a Consumers Energy 22-inch-diameter gas transmission pipeline carrying gas at 600 psi exploded and burned, in Orion Township, Michigan, knocking out the county 911 system, and causing some evacuations. There were no injuries.[317]
On November 29, 2017, in Richmond, Massachusetts, a Kinder Morgan pipeline overpressure triggered a relief valve to open, releasing natural gas for a blowdown that lasted 40 minutes and sounded like a jet engine. The gas escaped into a nearby residential neighborhood. Firefighters responded to the leak and closed the road. When contacted, pipeline personnel had no idea that there was a problem, and offered no reason for their equipment malfunction.[318]
On December 5, a father and his adult son were killed when a stuck tractor they were trying to free ruptured and ignited a 20-inch-diameter gas pipeline in Lee County, Illinois. Two others were seriously injured.[319] The explosion was on Kinder Morgan’s Natural Gas Pipeline Company of America, a 9,200-mile long system that transports natural gas from Texas and Louisiana to Chicago; Kinder Morgan issued a force majeure notice on the pipeline indicating a “third-party strike” as the reason for taking part of the Illinois Lateral out of service.[320]
On December 6, a gas pipeline exploded and burned, in Eddy County, New Mexico. Residents within 2 miles of the site were evacuated, and, several roads in the area were closed. There were no injuries.[321]
On December 13, an Energy Transfer Partners gas pipeline exploded and burned, in Burleson County, Texas. There were no injuries reported.[322]
On December 31, 4 workers were injured, while working on a 10-inch gas main, in Boston, Massachusetts, when the gas ignited. Gas had to burn a number of hours, due to cold conditions prevented shutting down gas in the area.[323]
 
petros
+1
#16
Try reading what you've posted, it only shores up my post.
 
pgs
+1
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

2017
On January 7, a Colonial Pipeline stubline leaked gasoline into Shoal Creek, in Chattanooga, Tennessee.[274]
On January 14, the Ozark Pipeline, an Enbridge, now Marathon, division, spilled about 18,900 gallons of light oil, at the Lawrence Pump Station, near Halltown, Missouri.[275]
On January 16, a gas pipeline exploded and burned, near Spearman, Texas. There were no injuries.[276]
On January 19, a Tallgrass Pony Express Pipeline failed in Logan County, Colorado, spilling about 420,300 gallons of crude oil. The cause of the failure was unknown.[171]
On January 25, a Magellan pipeline leaked 46,830 gallons (1,115 barrels) of diesel fuel onto private agricultural land, in Worth County, Iowa, near Hanlontown.[277][278]
On January 30, a Texas Department of Transportation crew dug into the 30-inch-diameter Seaway Pipeline, near Blue Ridge, Texas, spraying crude oil across road. About 210,000 gallons of crude were spilled. There were no injuries.[279][265]
On January 31, a DCP pipeline exploded under a runway, at Panola County Airport-Sharpe Field in Texas. There were no injuries, but the airport shut that runway down for an extended amount of time.[280]
On February 9, a Phillips 66 natural gas liquids pipeline (TENDS pipeline Sorrento system)[281] near the Williams-Discovery natural gas plant on US Route 90 near Paradis, Louisiana exploded while being cleaned, killing one worker, and sending another worker to a burn unit. Traffic on US 90 and La 631 was shut down and residents in the area evacuated.[282][283][284]
On February 15, 2017, a 36-inch-diameter Kinder Morgan natural gas pipeline exploded and burned in Refugio County, Texas. There were no injuries.[285] The flames were visible 50 miles away. Refugio County Chief Deputy Sheriff Gary Wright said the explosion occurred at an apparent weak point in the pipeline that must have required maintenance, but KM disputed the issue.[286] Residents as far as 60 miles away thought it was an earthquake, while others described it as "a thunder roll that wouldn’t end.”[287] According to the PHMSA incident listing, "the incident was most likely caused by some combination of stress factors on the pipeline." The explosion and resulting fire cost $525,197 in property damage. The pipe was installed in 1964.[179]
On February 27, a crude oil pipeline ruptured in Falls City, Texas, spilling about 42,630 gallons of crude oil. The cause was from internal corrosion.[265]
On March 29, a natural-gas leak of a high-pressure pipeline, in Providence, Rhode Island, owned by Spectra Energy, released about 19 million cubic feet of natural gas, or enough natural gas to heat and keep the lights on for 190,000 homes for a single day. Approximately two gallons of polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs) were also released, in the form of contaminated natural gas condensate.[288]
On April 4, a pump on the Dakota Access Pipeline spilled about 84 gallons of oil, at a pump station in Tulare, South Dakota. The leak was not noticed until May 9.[289]
On April 13 and 14, it was discovered that Energy Transfer Partners spilled drilling fluid into two separate wetlands in rural Ohio while constructing the Rover Pipeline. The spills occurred in wetlands near Richland County, Ohio. The spill on the 13th released 2 million gallons of drilling fluid and the spill on the 14th released approximately 50,000 gallons of drilling fluid.[290][291]
On April 21, a Plains All American Pipeline, experienced a crude oil release on the Buffalo Pipeline, near Loyal, Oklahoma. About 19,000 gallons of crude oil were spilled.[292]
On April 22, a 1,050-gallon oil pipeline spill near Bismarck, North Dakota polluted a tributary of the Little Missouri River, but was prevented from flowing into the larger waterway.[293]
On May 8, a Wood River Pipelines (part of Koch Industries) line broke in Warrensburg, Illinois, spill 250 gallons of crude oil.[294]
On May 25, workers were installing a replacement pipeline at a tank battery, near Mead, Colorado, when there was an explosion and fire. One worker was killed, and, 3 others injured.[295][296]
On July 13, a contractor doing maintenance on Magellan's Longhorn Pipeline hit that pipeline, in Bastrop County, Texas. About 87,000 gallons of crude oil were spilled, resulting in evacuations of nearby residents.[297][298]
On July 27, while installing a water pipeline by horizontal drilling, a contractor hit a ONEOK Natural Gas Liquids pipeline, spilling about 126,000 gallons of NGL's, near Watford City, North Dakota.[299]
On August 2, a pipeline leaked up to 1,000 gallons of oil, in Signal Hill, California.[300]
On August 2, a contractor ruptured a jet fuel pipeline, in Parkland, Washington.[301]
On August 2, 2017, a natural gas explosion and fire struck the Minnehaha Academy in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Workers may have been moving a gas meter when the explosion hit, killing two people and injuring at least nine others, according to investigators.[302][303]
On September 22, a gas pipeline exploded and burned in Welda, Kansas. There were no injuries.[304]
On September 22, fire broke out at a substation of the Iroquois Pipeline, causing homes to be evacuated and about two miles of Route 37 to be shut down for several hours, near Waddington, New York. The cause of the failure was never found.[305][306]
On October 18, Louisiana-based oil company LLOG Exploration had a crude oil spill of about 672,000 gallons, 40 miles southeast of Venice, Louisiana, citing the cause as a cracked pipeline under the Gulf of Mexico.[307]
On October 23, 2017, at a facility owned by EDC-Timken, operated and maintained by Columbia Gas Transmission in Navarre, Ohio, an unintended natural gas release was noted by the onsite company personnel. While investigating the sound, the single bolt hinged closure, that appeared to be the source of the release, failed. The closure failure fatally injured one technician. The equipment was installed in 1989.[179] The leak just south of Canton, Ohio, forced authorities to evacuate a neighborhood.[308]
On November 16, the Keystone Pipeline leaked about 408,500 gallons of crude oil, near Amherst, South Dakota. The pipeline was shut down within 15 minutes of the leak's discovery. Later, the NTSB found a metal tracked vehicle had run over this section of pipeline, causing the damage.[309] During cleanup activities, state officials say a semi-trailer driver hauling hazardous material to and from the Keystone oil pipeline leak site purposely dumped soil contaminated with crude oil on the side of a northeastern South Dakota road.[310] The original estimate was doubled to 9,600 barrels (400,000 US gal) in April 2018.[311][312][313]
On November 16, three men were injured in a gas pipeline fire in northeastern Weld County, Colorado. One later died of his injuries.[314][315]
On November 20, 2017, Kinder Morgan’s Connecticut Expansion Project's pipeline test at the Agawam, Massachusetts compressor station discharged 16,500 gallons of hazardous wastewater onto the soil of the compressor station yard; the wastewater contained heavy metals, lead, and carcinogens such as tetrachloroethylene and phthalate. Kinder Morgan blamed subcontractor Henkels & McCoy for an operator error.[316]
On November 20, a Consumers Energy 22-inch-diameter gas transmission pipeline carrying gas at 600 psi exploded and burned, in Orion Township, Michigan, knocking out the county 911 system, and causing some evacuations. There were no injuries.[317]
On November 29, 2017, in Richmond, Massachusetts, a Kinder Morgan pipeline overpressure triggered a relief valve to open, releasing natural gas for a blowdown that lasted 40 minutes and sounded like a jet engine. The gas escaped into a nearby residential neighborhood. Firefighters responded to the leak and closed the road. When contacted, pipeline personnel had no idea that there was a problem, and offered no reason for their equipment malfunction.[318]
On December 5, a father and his adult son were killed when a stuck tractor they were trying to free ruptured and ignited a 20-inch-diameter gas pipeline in Lee County, Illinois. Two others were seriously injured.[319] The explosion was on Kinder Morgan’s Natural Gas Pipeline Company of America, a 9,200-mile long system that transports natural gas from Texas and Louisiana to Chicago; Kinder Morgan issued a force majeure notice on the pipeline indicating a “third-party strike” as the reason for taking part of the Illinois Lateral out of service.[320]
On December 6, a gas pipeline exploded and burned, in Eddy County, New Mexico. Residents within 2 miles of the site were evacuated, and, several roads in the area were closed. There were no injuries.[321]
On December 13, an Energy Transfer Partners gas pipeline exploded and burned, in Burleson County, Texas. There were no injuries reported.[322]
On December 31, 4 workers were injured, while working on a 10-inch gas main, in Boston, Massachusetts, when the gas ignited. Gas had to burn a number of hours, due to cold conditions prevented shutting down gas in the area.[323]

Well skimming that list a common theme was , there were no injuries .
 
petros
+1
#18
Oil 0, NG? People still in hospital from the last gas explosion.

With NG being the backbone of the Paris Accord, more will die or suffer horribly.
 
Twin_Moose
#19
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

IMO...
If Canada would guarantee that the oil shipped East would be refined and used in Canada first, likely that would be good enough to get the pipeline through.
Though I personally don't like pipelines, I'd be good if it was meant for us and not other countries.

Energy East was to deliver to Refineries in the East and excess to be shipped to Europe. Irving refinery was already starting upgrades to handle the heavy crude when it got cancelled.

I should add Line 9 is already delivering oil to Montreal for refinement
 
Hoid
#20
the answer to "how many pipelines have exploded" is "many".
 
Hoid
#21
 
petros
+1
#22
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

the answer to "how many pipelines have exploded" is "many".

Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

How many NG pipelines have exploded so far this year and how many dead or seriously injured?
How many oil pipelines have killed or seriously injured people this year?

The question was specific.
 
Hoid
#23
your stupidity is far more generalized.

pipelines are dangerous. Pretty much every aspect of the oil and gas industry is dangerous.
 
MHz
#24
I assume your phobia about Russia is what is driving this thread.

That 1 tanker seems to have gone to the the US, the different country just to the south. The odds of any of it ending up in Canada is zilch, and we import oil from Venezuela while at the same time helping deny them the ability to import food for their own people.
You may want to research why oil from Kuwait is no longer being imported to the US since you don't know that Canada and the US are 2 different countries, on paper anyway.
Kind of hard to hide the fact you are a racist pig on this topic and it certainly fits in with your love for the ones that use sanctions to punish the ones least able to defend themselves. Hope you and a few others keel over when the first fleet of Iranian tankers start unloading oil from their country. You know the kind that is just about jet fuel as it comes out of the well while we are trying to sell tar that has been thinned out to resemble crude that has about a tablespoon of jet fuel in every barrel. Suitable for building runways rather than fueling the jets that use them.

People are catching onto how you fukers are intentionally running the world into the ground just so you don't have to share any of what you claim is yours. Thieves have no possessions of their own btw.
 
MHz
+1
#25
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

your stupidity is far more generalized.

pipelines are dangerous. Pretty much every aspect of the oil and gas industry is dangerous.

Not as dangerous as winter without NG, try it and get back to us in the spring if you still can.
 
Twin_Moose
+1
#26
Companies give final go-ahead to Kitimat LNG facility

Quote:

The five primary investors in a proposed liquefied natural gas project in northern British Columbia granted their final approval Monday for the development.
The $40-billion LNG Canada project calls for the construction of a pipeline to transport natural gas from Dawson Creek in northeastern B.C. to a to-be-built processing terminal on the coast in Kitimat, where the gas would be liquefied for overseas export.
The B.C. ministries of Finance and Energy have estimated that the project will generate $22 billion in direct government revenue over the next 40 years.
The project is also expected to employ as many as 10,000 people in its construction and up to 950 in full-time jobs.
To help make the project happen, Premier John Horgan's government offered a break on the carbon tax as well as an exemption on provincial sales tax related to construction costs.
According to information provided by the province, LNG Canada would be the least greenhouse gas-intensive large LNG facility in the world.
However, B.C. Green Party Leader Andrew Weaver was skeptical the project would mesh with the province's goal of lowering greenhouse gas emissions to 40 per cent below 2007 levels by 2030.
In a statement, he said his party would not support the LNG legislation that would be required.

NDP are endorsing this one
 
MHz
#27
Is this giving you a view of what sanctions are and what they aren't?

NATO uses it as a tool to wage war on women and children without being held accountable for it. European and North American Oil Companies are owner and operated by the World Bank. They tell countries what to do and what not to do rather than it being the other way around. Are you getting an idea how the big picture works?
 
Twin_Moose
#28
What are you going on about now?
 
MHz
#29
Are you getting an idea how the big picture works?


Please don't make this a 'repeat as required' thing. We could be here awhile.
 
Twin_Moose
#30
So the NDP endorsing the NGL projects in conflict of the Greens is a NATO conspiracy to kill Women and children, and I don't see the whole world picture, do I have this correct?
 

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