The CPC rating the debate before it even began


Briteyes
#1
I was watching Mike Duffy live and I was shocked when the Liberal strategist read from a peice of paper that leaked from the CPC rating the debate hours before it even began here is the link for anyone who is interested in viewing it
http://www.thestar.com/static/PDF/05...te_verdict.pdf
check the time I was shocked that they can do that and no one seems to care.
 
Reverend Blair
#2
It's just business as usual for the Conservatives. No substance, no truth, just spin and platitudes and they aren't even competent at that.

All parties try to spin the debate to their advantage, but for the CPC to have been caught writing their press relase before the debates shows an arrogance that is sickening.
 
Colpy
Conservative
#3
Quote: Originally Posted by Reverend Blair

It's just business as usual for the Conservatives. No substance, no truth, just spin and platitudes and they aren't even competent at that.

All parties try to spin the debate to their advantage, but for the CPC to have been caught writing their press relase before the debates shows an arrogance that is sickening.

I prefer to think it shows a clear, concise understanding of the issues and personalities involved.....
 
missile
Conservative
#4
I understand there was a Liberal document released the other day that said they could only guarantee 10 seats would be theirs.
 
Jay
#5
In the background though, they giggle like little girls while they plan our demise....

 
Reverend Blair
#6
Quote:

I prefer to think it shows a clear, concise understanding of the issues and personalities involved.

What it shows is more Conservative corruption.
 
missile
Conservative
#7
I seethey all have been out to the Moore's Suit Sale
 
Jay
#8
Quote: Originally Posted by missile

I seethey all have been out to the Moore's Suit Sale

 
Colpy
Conservative
#9
Quote: Originally Posted by Reverend Blair

Quote:

I prefer to think it shows a clear, concise understanding of the issues and personalities involved.

What it shows is more Conservative corruption.

What!!! Somebody paid them to be wise?

This ain't corruption, Rev.

Stupid misstep, yes. Corruption? No.
 
Reverend Blair
#10
What they did amounts to lying to the Canadian public, Colpy. That's corruption.
 
Calberty
#11
I'm a political junkie and even I didn't watch the debate. I haven't found one fellow worker who spent more than the first 10 minutes watching it. It's all about performance and media hype. All that counts the next day is spin and perception.
 
Reverend Blair
#12
You didn't miss much, Calberty.

Harper's lack of French showed a bit...he had to ask for the recorded questions to be repeated a couple of times. He was basically there to say that everything is Martin's fault. Oh, and he lied about Martin threatening to use Notwithstanding on SSM.

The debate was really between Duceppe and Martin though. It was pretty much a wash.
 
Calberty
#13
I see the debates as a politcal jousting and the impact is on the media..not the viewers (or lack of them). The policies and not momentary 'slip ups' are what I cast my vote on.

For me me the only real value is to see whether or not a PM or future PM can think or act under pressure and doesn't crack up (a la Turner against Mulroney). I don't equate a 'hold your on' TV performance with the inability to be a good PM. Allthe current leaders can do their monkey act well enough to be PM.
 
Reverend Blair
#14
There is an impact on the viewers, but it's mostly from what the media decides about the politicians performances. The important thing is they get the exposure.

I think tonight's debate will be a little more lively than last night's. Harper and Layton really have little stake in Quebec, with each of them being a spoiler in a couple of ridings but having no real chance of winning seats there. BC is a battleground though and tonight's debate is likely to show that.

The candidates are also more familiar with the format, and will have been coached all day on how to do better tonight, so it should be more entertaining. I doubt there will be knockout, but it will be a more lively debate.
 
Finder
#15
ah, I thought CPC was Communist Party of Canada as it is commonly known as. Isn't the short form for the Conservative Party of Canada usually "Tory, Con or just Conservative"

I'm sure all the parties had formulated a answer to the debate before it started. Just because for instance, they pretty much know what the other sides will say in general.
 
Reverend Blair
#16
Quote:

ah, I thought CPC was Communist Party of Canada as it is commonly known as. Isn't the short form for the Conservative Party of Canada usually "Tory, Con or just Conservative"

They're pretty commonly referred to as the CPC because it differentiates them from the old PC party.
 
Finder
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by Reverend Blair

Quote:

ah, I thought CPC was Communist Party of Canada as it is commonly known as. Isn't the short form for the Conservative Party of Canada usually "Tory, Con or just Conservative"

They're pretty commonly referred to as the CPC because it differentiates them from the old PC party.

I googled CPC

here's the first four results. Notice how the Conservative party didn't come up. lol. Notice how Communist party of Canada did. I think I'll stick with calling the Conservative party of Canada, Tory, Con, or Conservatives.

But you are right. The PC's (Progressive Conservative Party) are not the same as the CPC (Conservative party of Canada).
 
Finder
#18
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Reverend Blair
#19
It still gets used though, and it's far more accurate than calling them Tories or Conservatives since they are neither the party of John A. MacDonald nor interested in conserving anything other than their own wealth.
 
Finder
#20
Quote: Originally Posted by Reverend Blair

It still gets used though, and it's far more accurate than calling them Tories or Conservatives since they are neither the party of John A. MacDonald nor interested in conserving anything other than their own wealth.

I'm still not sure. Even though this is such a small point which really doesn't matter. Around the world CP usually stands for "Communist party"

But since both the CPC Communist party of Canada and the CPC (ML) Communist party of Canada Marxist-Leninist Combined receice about 0.3-0.4, well I guess the Conservative party of Canada can have the Communists name of CPC. =-D They deserve it.
 
Reverend Blair
#21
The Conservatives do have a lot of things in common with the old-line communists in Poland, don't they?

Dictatorial, uncompassionate, putting things before people, concerned with their personal gain over the good of the state, willing to be a satellite state of a centralized power, the wish to have police state.

Man, they're virtual clones of the clowns who ran Poland pre-Walesa.
 
#juan
No Party Affiliation
#22
I kind of thought the Liberals won the debate. Layton was pretty strong as well but Harper was probably an embarrassment to his party. It seems the Cons got the wrong "insider" information. Par for the course.
 
Reverend Blair
#23
I don't know if they won the debate. I always think they should call in judges from the high school debating clubs to judge that.

Martin certainly won the war for press coverage when he ripped into Duceppe though. Whoever wrote that for him definitely deserves a raise.

Layton did well enough that even the National Post was saying nice things about him. That's major.
 
Finder
#24
Quote: Originally Posted by Reverend Blair

The Conservatives do have a lot of things in common with the old-line communists in Poland, don't they?

Dictatorial, uncompassionate, putting things before people, concerned with their personal gain over the good of the state, willing to be a satellite state of a centralized power, the wish to have police state.

Man, they're virtual clones of the clowns who ran Poland pre-Walesa.

What about that Communist Leader who wanted to reform the Communist party back in the 60's into more of a humaninist socialist party or a Western version of Socialism? He wasn't all that bad, plus after the fall of Communism/Stalinism, he did make a pref return to politics in Poland before dieing. For some reason I can't remember his name but I remember reading him in Soviet history and in "Lenin's Tomb". The guy who was crushed by the Warsaw pact.
 
Reverend Blair
#25
I don't remember that at all.
 
Finder
#26
Quote: Originally Posted by Reverend Blair

I don't remember that at all.


You know what. I was wrong. I was thinking of Alexander Dubček, from Czechoslovakia, and not Poland. My mistake. Anyhow he was the Communist who wanted to reform the system into a more western Socialist system and then was crushed by the Warsaw pact.
 
Reverend Blair
#27
Ah, I vaguely remember Dubcek.
 
Finder
#28
Quote: Originally Posted by Reverend Blair

Ah, I vaguely remember Dubcek.

Yeah he was the President or PM or soemthing of the Check republic after the fall of communism briefly before he died. I know the posistion he had didn't have too much power though. But he was a good man and enlightend. too bad the Soviets/Warsaw pact crushed his movement and government.
 

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