Einstein's gravity theory passes toughest test yet


L Gilbert
#1
Cool stuff.

Bizarre binary star system pushes study of relativity to new limits

Einstein's gravity theory passes toughest test yet: Bizarre binary star system pushes study of relativity to new limits
 
darkbeaver
#2
There are no limits to relativity, anything goes.

Pulsar Wind Nebulae


Posted on January 14, 2013 by Stephen Smith
Jan 15, 2013 Some so-called “neutron star pulsars” are said to create nebulae as they spin. The standard model of stellar evolution proposes that pulsars are neutron stars rotating at incredible speed. For example, PSR J1748-2446ad, in the globular … Continue reading →

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Electromagnetic Monsters

Posted on January 14, 2013 by Stephen Smith
Jan 14, 2013 Extreme magnetic fields in space are said to be caused by the high-speed rotation of neutron stars. Several previous Picture of the Day articles discuss the problem of neutron stars and how they affect the progress … Continue reading →

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L Gilbert
#3
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver View Post

There are no limits to relativity, anything goes.

Pulsar Wind Nebulae


Posted on January 14, 2013 by Stephen Smith
Jan 15, 2013 Some so-called “neutron star pulsars” are said to create nebulae as they spin. The standard model of stellar evolution proposes that pulsars are neutron stars rotating at incredible speed. For example, PSR J1748-2446ad, in the globular … Continue reading →

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Electromagnetic Monsters

Posted on January 14, 2013 by Stephen Smith
Jan 14, 2013 Extreme magnetic fields in space are said to be caused by the high-speed rotation of neutron stars. Several previous Picture of the Day articles discuss the problem of neutron stars and how they affect the progress … Continue reading →

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Go make yer own thread with your (pseudo)science news.
 
darkbeaver
#4
Oh my dear me I had no idea this was your personal space fantasy thread. I'll just leave you and your gravity waves alone. Don't you guys have a convention in Vegas every year where you dress up in science fiction costumes?
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
#5
Quote: Originally Posted by L Gilbert View Post

Cool stuff.

Bizarre binary star system pushes study of relativity to new limits

Einstein's gravity theory passes toughest test yet: Bizarre binary star system pushes study of relativity to new limits

So, Einstein is proven right again. His theory's only flaw is it is incompatable with Quantum theory. Seems to me that maybe the flaw is in Quantum theory?
 
L Gilbert
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Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver View Post

Oh my dear me I had no idea this was your personal space fantasy thread. I'll just leave you and your gravity waves alone. Don't you guys have a convention in Vegas every year where you dress up in science fiction costumes?

Ya know, the difference between me n you is you post pseudoscientific claptrap which I and others counter with real science. I and others, on the other hand, post real scientific stuff which you muck up by posting your pseudoscientific claptrap.

Quote: Originally Posted by IdRatherBeSkiing View Post

So, Einstein is proven right again. His theory's only flaw is it is incompatable with Quantum theory. Seems to me that maybe the flaw is in Quantum theory?

I don't think there are flaws in either actually. IMO, the rift comes from both theories not being completed to the point where they mesh.
 
darkbeaver
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by L Gilbert View Post

Ya know, the difference between me n you is you post pseudoscientific claptrap which I and others counter with real science. I and others, on the other hand, post real scientific stuff which you muck up by posting your pseudoscientific claptrap.

Well Mr Gibson if I can muck up your "real scientific stuff" with ease that might tell you something if you were an adherent of the scientific method instead of the Church of the Big Bang.
Gravity waves sheesh. do the math for a neutron star
 
L Gilbert
#8
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver View Post

Well Mr Gibson if I can muck up your "real scientific stuff" with ease that might tell you something if you were an adherent of the scientific method instead of the Church of the Big Bang.
Gravity waves sheesh. do the math for a neutron star

you didn't really much up the real scientific stuff, you simply muck up posts of real scientific stuff with your crap. Mucking up posts is the easy stuff. Mucking up real science is a whole nuther bottle of ketchup.
Last edited by L Gilbert; May 9th, 2013 at 04:19 PM..
 
Dexter Sinister
#9
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver View Post

Gravity waves sheesh. do the math for a neutron star

Do the math for an electric star as you once said you would and explain how Tom Bridgman's analysis of it, which shows that the electric model predicts powerful effects that are not seen (I gave you the link several times) and thus cannot be right, is in error. Feel free to use a resistance, capacitance, or inductance model (if you know what any of those mean), or any combination of them that suits you, and explain the source of solar neutrinos, the observed charge-neutrality of the solar wind, the absence of the huge magnetic field that would accompany an electric current large enough to account for the sun's observed energy output, and the absence after decades of careful solar observation of any evidence for the electric current itself.

Or you could admit your total ignorance of real physics and stop offering your silly opinions, but I'm betting you'll never do that, you'll produce some flippant response and/or an ad hominem fallacy, as usual.
 
Tecumsehsbones
#10
Now here's REAL physics.

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darkbeaver
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by Dexter Sinister View Post

Do the math for an electric star as you once said you would and explain how Tom Bridgman's analysis of it, which shows that the electric model predicts powerful effects that are not seen (I gave you the link several times) and thus cannot be right, is in error. Feel free to use a resistance, capacitance, or inductance model (if you know what any of those mean), or any combination of them that suits you, and explain the source of solar neutrinos, the observed charge-neutrality of the solar wind, the absence of the huge magnetic field that would accompany an electric current large enough to account for the sun's observed energy output, and the absence after decades of careful solar observation of any evidence for the electric current itself.

Or you could admit your total ignorance of real physics and stop offering your silly opinions, but I'm betting you'll never do that, you'll produce some flippant response and/or an ad hominem fallacy, as usual.

Hey Sinister don't you think you're overreacting a bit? Could it be that you sense the end of the road for the gravity muddle? My silly opinions and facts come from very well educated professionals, everyone of them accredited physicists, electrical engineers cosmologists, astronomers. Should I shut up because you can't accept the future of physics and the way things really are? I don't think so.

Maybe some of these will interest readers who have not been completely conditioned by the gravity cult.

'09 Aug 22 ~ Taxpayers Duped by Einstein - LIGO still peddling LIES*

'09 Aug 07 ~ Einstein's Elusive Gravitational Waves

'09 Apr 21 ~ Newton's Electric Clockwork Solar System

'09 Jan 31 ~ NEGATIVE Gs - Old habits die hard

'08 Aug 22 ~ Electric Gravity in an Electric Universe

'08 Jun 07 ~ No Elephants In My Carpet - More LIES from LIGO

'08 Jan 07 ~ LIGO Successfully Finds Nothing!
 
darkbeaver
#12
See also Prof. Don Scott’s analysis of the report at: Comments on the Sudbury Neutrino Observatory Report
Solar neutrino puzzle is solved? | holoscience.com | The Electric Universe
Comment:
A sea of neutrinos won’t account for galactic rotation curves — the neutrinos cannot be distributed evenly, but must be collected in a halo. Dark matter is not required to explain galactic form and rotation in a plasma universe. The galactic forms and evolution have been experimentally confirmed in plasma laboratories and in super-computer plasma simulations. No strange invisible matter is needed. However, a vast sea of unreactive neutrinos could be the long debated “ether” that permeates space. Space is not a void. We then have an electrically responsive medium for the transmission of light in which the characteristic velocity of an electrical disturbance in that medium is the so-called speed of light, c.
T
 
L Gilbert
#13
That's our dim rodent; predictable and out-to-lunch.
 
darkbeaver
#14
electricity denier
 
darkbeaver
#15
Antigravity? | holoscience.com | The Electric UniverseThe British scientist, Herbert Dingle, for many years wrote the entry for the Encyclopedia Brittanica on Einstein’s Special Theory of Relativity before recanting. Then, in his book, Science at the Crossroads, he related the difficulties he encountered after he realized that Einstein’s version of the theory of relativity didn’t make sense. He wrote:
“The equations [Einstein or Lorentz as the need arose] worked, so the ‘experimenters’ became convinced that the theory, whatever it was, must be right. The superior minds acknowledged that they did not understand it, but the majority could not rise to that height. Nothing is more powerful in producing the illusion that one understands something that one does not, than constant repetition of the words used to express it, and the lesser minds deceived themselves by supposing that terms like ‘dilation of time’ had a self-evident meaning, and regarded with contempt those stupid enough to imagine that they required explanation. Anyone who cares to examine the literature from 1920 to the present day, even if he has not had personal experience of the development, can see the gradual growth of dogmatic acceptance of the theory and contempt for its critics, right up to the extreme form exhibited today by those who learnt it from those who learnt it from those who failed to understand it at the beginning.”
Mathematics is an indispensable and powerful tool where it has been demonstrated that it applies to a real world experience. However, it is inappropriate and, as Dingle points out, potentially dangerous, to give credence to deductions arising purely from the language of mathematics. The problem is that mathematicians now dominate physics and it is fashionable for them to follow Einstein’s example, with fame going to those with the most fantastic notions that defy experience and common sense. So we have the Big Bang, dark matter, black holes, cosmic strings, wormholes in space, time travel, and so on and on. It has driven practically minded students from the subject. There is an old Disney cartoon where the scientist is portrayed with eyes closed, rocking backwards in his chair and sucking on a pipe, which at intervals emits a smoke-cloud of mathematical symbols. Much of modern physics is a smoke-screen of Disneyesque fantasy. Inappropriate mathematical models are routinely used to describe the universe. Yet the physicists hand us the ash from their pipes as if it were gold dust. If only they would use the ashtrays provided.
 
L Gilbert
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Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver View Post

electricity denier

Nuts. I don't deny electricity itself, just your gods' wacky views on it's activity in the universe. And the thing about the ToR is that it isn't applicable to everything. Einstein himself said that and the biggest failures of scientist and other researchers that detract from the ToR is that they forget Einstein's cautions. If you follow Einstein's cautions about the ToR, the theory makes sense. If you don't, it won't.

Try describing the effects of the laws of thermodynamics in a particular situation without using math. Or try quantifying a series of results in an experiment without using math.

Have another chew on those shrooms, dim rodent.
Last edited by L Gilbert; May 11th, 2013 at 08:35 PM..
 
Dexter Sinister
#17
"Einstein's gravity theory passes toughest test yet." Did you get that part Beave, that the theory correctly predicted what was observed? Or to put it in words of one syllable for you, it was right. That's more than anyone can say about the electric cosmos theory, which can't even admit the existence of the two objects that were observed and, at least for those with the skills to work out the consequences of its claims (i.e. anyone who knows undergraduate-level physics), predicts things that should be easily observable but are not seen.
 
Cliffy
#18
Gravity is a myth. The earth sucks.
 
darkbeaver
#19
Quote: Originally Posted by Dexter Sinister View Post

"Einstein's gravity theory passes toughest test yet." Did you get that part Beave, that the theory correctly predicted what was observed? Or to put it in words of one syllable for you, it was right. That's more than anyone can say about the electric cosmos theory, which can't even admit the existence of the two objects that were observed and, at least for those with the skills to work out the consequences of its claims (i.e. anyone who knows undergraduate-level physics), predicts things that should be easily observable but are not seen.

At the temperatures involved in this "observation" gas is long since ionized therefore they are looking at plasma which can and is replicated in various labs. Gravity waves distorting timespace is simply insanity. What would said waves be moving through anyway?


Irrespective of their source, X-rays in space are not created by gravitational fields regardless of how strong they are theorized to be. Since plasma is composed of charged particles, the particles are accelerated by electric currents and spiral in the resulting magnetic fields, creating synchrotron radiation that can shine in all high energy frequencies, including extreme ultraviolet, X-rays, and gamma rays.
Stephen Smith
 
darkbeaver
#20
In science one of the best markers for the accuracy of a model or theory is how well it predicts outcomes. This applies not only to future events but can also be applied to existing data. Below is a collection of predictions based on Electric Universe principles, which have been confirmed by observations and data. The link above provides a list of pending predictions.

At present this list concentrates on those things predicted before the event, but will be expanded in the future to cover many facets of modern astrophysics and cosmology. Comets: Deep Impact
Comets: Stardust
Sun
Mars
Saturn
Saturn's moons
Io
Supernovae: SN1987A
Fusion


Thunderbolts predictions confirmed
 
L Gilbert
#21
lol More nonsense from Thunderbolt. Cool.
 
darkbeaver
#22
The planet is covered in wires and loaded with current, no organism can live without it, no process can happen in it's absence and there isn't one gravity appliance anyhere in the known solar system and you publish your religious beliefs regularly using electricity. When a cult gets hold of a man it's a great shame. It won't be long before you're standing out on the street wearing funny clothes holding a can out and begging research money from well adjusted people for your Church of Gravity priests.
 
L Gilbert
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver View Post

The planet is covered in wires and loaded with current, no organism can live without it, no process can happen in it's absence and there isn't one gravity appliance anyhere in the known solar system and you publish your religious beliefs regularly using electricity. When a cult gets hold of a man it's a great shame. It won't be long before you're standing out on the street wearing funny clothes holding a can out and begging research money from well adjusted people for your Church of Gravity priests.

OIh, someone's wired alright. Mind altering drugs can do that to you. It's a shame you let yourself be sucked into them.
 
darkbeaver
#24
Right now you believe you are slowly but surely being sucked into the black hole at the center of our galaxy and all without drugs I presume. Nobody can see it but we're all going down the galactic drain.
 
L Gilbert
#25
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver View Post

Right now you believe you are slowly but surely being sucked into the black hole at the center of our galaxy and all without drugs I presume.

I do?
Quote:

Nobody can see it but we're all going down the galactic drain.

Life's a b|tch.
 
darkbeaver
#26
For example, plasma cosmology is officially recognized by the largest professional organization in the world, the Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers (IEEE), while big bang cosmologists ignore it. The electric universe model is an extension of plasma cosmology. It is based on concepts derived from observations as disparate as petroglyphs and quasar redshift. Big bang cosmologists have no narrative that can compete. But by the simple act of ignoring alternatives they reject them—if the public simply acquiesce and do not speak up.

Electric Gravity in an Electric Universe
 

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