Recommended Website - GlobalResearch.ca


DerekJay
#1
Just thought some of you might enjoy the articles on this site... it's based out of Quebec.

www.globalresearch.ca
 
Toro
#2
Hahaha.

You realize, this Michel Chossudovsky is nuts, eh?

Let's look at the headlines.

Is the Bush Administration Planning a Nuclear Holocaust? http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...articleId=2032

Michel Chossudovsky: War and Globalization: the Truth behind 9/11
http://www.canadiancontent.net/en/jd...balresearch.ca

Quote:

The relationship between war and the free market reforms. The war on terrorism is a fabrication, which serves to support of war of conquest. Osama bin Laden is a creation of US intelligence. Analyses the intelligence ploy behind September 11.

Is America Preparing for Martial Law?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...0&articleId=71


The Ultimate Weapon of Mass Destruction: "Owning the Weather" for Military Use
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...&articleId=319

Coup d'Etat in America?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...3&articleId=57

Bush Administration "Guidelines" for Postponing or Canceling the November Presidential Elections
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...&articleId=103



The Left discredits itself with this type of nonsense.
 
Sassylassie
#3
Wheres the link to "Aliens are taking control of our minds", this is an important site that offers tips and counter measure to ensure the aliens don't get you. I just evicted one from my sun-room and that bastard put up a hell of a fight.
 
I think not
#4
Must be a Mel Hurtig spinoff.
 
DerekJay
#5
Quote: Originally Posted by Toro

Hahaha.

You realize, this Michel Chossudovsky is nuts, eh?

Let's look at the headlines.

Is the Bush Administration Planning a Nuclear Holocaust? http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...articleId=2032

Michel Chossudovsky: War and Globalization: the Truth behind 9/11
http://www.canadiancontent.net/en/jd...balresearch.ca

Quote:

The relationship between war and the free market reforms. The war on terrorism is a fabrication, which serves to support of war of conquest. Osama bin Laden is a creation of US intelligence. Analyses the intelligence ploy behind September 11.

Is America Preparing for Martial Law?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...0&articleId=71


The Ultimate Weapon of Mass Destruction: "Owning the Weather" for Military Use
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...&articleId=319

Coup d'Etat in America?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...3&articleId=57

Bush Administration "Guidelines" for Postponing or Canceling the November Presidential Elections
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...&articleId=103



The Left discredits itself with this type of nonsense.

You can call him nuts... but if you read his work with an open mind, I think you might find that he's quite an intelligent guy, that can support a lot of his articles with facts.

Easy to post a few headlines, then laugh calling him crazy.

I laugh every day when I read letters from people claiming how great it is that Canada is involved in this "war on terrorism". You see, I'm not one who picks up the paper and believes everything... I use facts and supporting arguments to separate the truth from lies.
 
DerekJay
#6
Quote: Originally Posted by Sassylassie

Wheres the link to "Aliens are taking control of our minds", this is an important site that offers tips and counter measure to ensure the aliens don't get you. I just evicted one from my sun-room and that bastard put up a hell of a fight.

I must admit... I laughed at your comment. If this is your type of reading, I might suggest abovetopsecret.com

If you believe everything here... then you really need to get your head examined.

There are a few intelligent folk that contribute some interesting stuff though.
 
Toro
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by I think not

Must be a Mel Hurtig spinoff.

Hurtig's not really a foiler, just deluded.

But Chossudovsky,



GONG!

is the real deal!
 
Jay
#8
I would imagine you would need an open mind to believe we are in Afghanistan not because of 9/11 but because of pipelines and that GWB orchestrated the whole tragedy for oil.

If I didn't believe the reasons people spew this drivel are diabolical, I would believe they were so open minded their brains fell out.
 
DerekJay
#9
Quote: Originally Posted by Jay

I would imagine you would need an open mind to believe we are in Afghanistan not because of 9/11 but because of pipelines and that GWB orchestrated the whole tragedy for oil.

If I didn't believe the reasons people spew this drivel are diabolical, I would believe they were so open minded their brains fell out.

You should do some research before dismissing such a "theory". There is more going on in this world than what is reported on CNN.
 
Jay
#10
And you shouldn't assume I'm only going by whatís on CNN. I mean really, your not the first person to come in here and claim these things...I have a theory too, and if you search around here you will find it. I'm completely convinced these wars are about sheep.....

I can smell anti-Americanism from miles away.
 
Sassylassie
#11
Derekjay; I don't believe Bushes greed for oil is what Irag is all about. However, I don't discount the fact that the Oil Industry is bigger than any governement that exist today and is also more powerful. Thus, if there is oil in a conflick zone/country they will be their like ugly on an ape and suck the life blood out of that country and when done-- their off to another country where oil and strife exist, they are pucking parisites. The entire world needs to wake up and take that very big bastard (I mean all oil companies) and start putting some controls in place. Look at Nigeria, the oil company is polluting Tribal lands, human beings are like cockroaches to the oil industry-they have no value. Gotta go now blood pressure is rising to dangerous levels. Cheers.
 
DerekJay
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by Sassylassie

Derekjay; I don't believe Bushes greed for oil is what Irag is all about. However, I don't discount the fact that the Oil Industry is bigger than any governement that exist today and is also more powerful. Thus, if there is oil in a conflick zone/country they will be their like ugly on an ape and suck the life blood out of that country and when done-- their off to another country where oil and strife exist, they are pucking parisites. The entire world needs to wake up and take that very big bastard (I mean all oil companies) and start putting some controls in place. Look at Nigeria, the oil company is polluting Tribal lands, human beings are like cockroaches to the oil industry-they have no value. Gotta go now blood pressure is rising to dangerous levels. Cheers.

You make a good point, and your view is similar to mine in a sense that the U.S. government has their hand in this - The Bush family profits when the big Oil and gas companies he is involved with profits. These high level Industrialists and government are working hand-in-hand. all working together to achieve the same goal - $$$$$$$$ and power.
 
Jay
#13
Rather than say...lefty countries, whos main objectives seem to be to shit all over people, make them poor and slaves to stupid ideas?

I'll take American cooperation over the other choice any day. I mean what, the government and industrialist should be working against each other to make people powerless and poor?
 
DerekJay
#14
Quote: Originally Posted by Jay

And you shouldn't assume I'm only going by whatís on CNN. I mean really, your not the first person to come in here and claim these things...I have a theory too, and if you search around here you will find it. I'm completely convinced these wars are about sheep.....

I can smell anti-Americanism from miles away.

For the record... I'm not anti-American.

What I can't stand is how the government uses its military to wage war (in the interest of national security), when in fact it has more to do with power, control, and Oil reserves. If you stack up all of the reasons that the government gave all of us to justify these middle East wars (ie WMD, etc) and then compare them with all of the "others", good common sense and logic says that the U.S. would have nothing to do with these countries if there wasn't a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

It's the deception and false fronts that are created in order to rally support of these wars that drive me crazy. If your reference to "sheep" would have anything to do with the Americans being led to war with a "cause"... then I would agree with this analogy. I don't believe that the average soldier would be willing to put his life on the line if Bush told them straight up - "We need to occupy the middle east and take over the controls so me and my buddies can make a whole whack of money drilling some black gold... Hoo wahh!"

I think not. Protecting "freedom" and Fighting "terrorists" sounds a whole lot better.
 
Toro
#15
To the anti-American, or anti-oil industry, or anti-Bush crowd, or anti-whatever, its always this cartoonish scenario when every single thing is about oil. Invading Afghanistan is about Anmericans controlling oil. Allowing the genocide in Sudan is about the Americans controlling oil. 9/11 is some demented plot by Bush and his buddy Osama bin Laden to justify the invasion of Iraq so the Americans can control oil.

These theories aren't kept out of the mainstream media because of some corporate-controlled media conspiracy plot. Its because they're laughable. That's why organizations such as globalresearch aren't taken seriously.
 
Jay
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by DerekJay

For the record... I'm not anti-American.

Of course not.


Quote: Originally Posted by DerekJay

the U.S. would have nothing to do with these countries if there wasn't a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

There is a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, it just isn't what your saying it is.

Quote:

Protecting "freedom" and Fighting "terrorists" sounds a whole lot better.

That's because it's true.
 
Toro
#17
The truth always sounds a whole lot better.
 
DerekJay
#18
Quote: Originally Posted by Jay

Quote: Originally Posted by DerekJay

For the record... I'm not anti-American.

Of course not.


Quote: Originally Posted by DerekJay

the U.S. would have nothing to do with these countries if there wasn't a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

There is a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, it just isn't what your saying it is.

Quote:

Protecting "freedom" and Fighting "terrorists" sounds a whole lot better.

That's because it's true.

1. I have nothing against Americans... the manner in which they support the criminal organization that they call a government would be the extent of my discontent. I know many Americans, and I don't hate them. For the same reason I don't hate you for not having open mind to accept ideas outside of what we are told to believe.

2. To Clarify... the "pot of Gold" is more than Oil - Controlling these important resources equates to power, and money... which is why they are there, whether you are willing to accept that or not. This region is critical since they U.S. can't afford to be dependant on a middle east shit-show for their Oil. The Industrialists that are in bed with Bush also stand to make enourmous profits from the contracts... hmm... didn't Afghanistan report some 18X the amount expected just yesterday? The big-picture and long-range plan goes higher than this.. but for the sake of time, I'll leave it at that.

3. IF you actually believe that this "war on terrorism" is for real... then you are naive my friend. While I would agree with the fact that there are many problems in the middle east with people that are fanatical with killing the "infidel", what the U.S has done is not solve the problem. In fact, they have only thrown more fuel in the fire with the growing discontent over a U.S. occupancy. History tells us that this type of solution never amounts to a positive change. Vietman was about drugs... never about communism, just like Iraq and Afghanstan have nothing to do with human rights and terrorists. Years from now... when he U.S. military finally leaves these countries, they will be in no better shape than the day before they started dropping bombs. In fact, there will be even more people willing to strap a bomb around their waist and scream "Allah Akbhar!" Ask yourself - Who stands to gain? Certainly not the front-line soldiers who are doing the fighting... they only risk losing their lives and leaving their wives and husbands and children at home to fend for themselves. Meanwhile, Bush, the Elites and Industrialists make more money and hold more power on the world stage.
 
Jay
#19
Sure...whatever.

All you want to do is stop the spread of democracy and freedom either because your evil or you simply can't see what it does for the success of people/the masses.





God Bless America and destroy her enemies. Feel like getting in the way?
 
elevennevele
#20
The media gave the US government a free ride without much criticism when it decided to invade Iraq. The world said that they didn't have much proof Saddam still had the weapons capacity. The inspectors didn't see the proof though they were always open minded to it.

Powellís case for invading Iraq was based on forged documents that were proven to be forged before he gave his speech to the UN. Note that there was the outing of a CIA agent as a way of punishing Wilson for challenging the administration on the matter.

(Iíll even use well known US sources)
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/03/14/sprj.irq.documents/

(CIA outing)
http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...internalid=ACA

Moreover, much of the info Powell gave was old and dated. Did the media really take the US government to task? No.

A poll was also done asking people whether they believed there was a connection between Saddam and Al Qaeda. At the time most believed there was even though the connection was proven to be hardly the case. Saddam and Osama were actually rivals. Saddam, because of his tyranny, would never allow a militant group to operate within his country.

Did the news media work to really inform the public of their misconceptions? No. Even when Bush himself had to publicly state there was no connection to 911, through his administration continue to make references to 911 with regards to invading Iraq. Does the media take them to task on continually spreading misperceptions? No.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5223932/

The UN made a clear stance that the case for war wasnít strong. Old allies challenged the US on this. The US media however rather than question the validity of their arguments, created a poor impression of the rest of the world, the UN, and scapegoated France. Who was right in the end? Well now that hindsight is 20/20 I guess the rest of world but the information was there at the time to challenge the need for war. Did the media take the US government to task? No.

(Please note, Harper would have taken us into Iraq if he were leader at the time. He wrote an letter of apology to the US for Canadaís refusal to become involved.)

NBC is 80% owned by General Electric. I take interest in who owns what. I have to as I have a keen interest in the markets. So donít say Iím not into capitalism. I need to get my facts straight or I lose my ass if I just go along believing the taking heads or the corporate BS. General Electric makes missile switches. You tell me there isnít a conflict of interest.

http://www.cjr.org/tools/owners/ge.asp

I didnít look up the website originally posted for this forum so what Iím saying has nothing to do with it. The facts I mentioned however are out there.

The political decisions a country makes are my business to know because they do things to an economy which I have a keen interest in. So I have to know what is really going on regardless of the patriotic fuzzy feeling the media likes to reports. If somebody wants a more clearer picture than they have to read the news from all over the place, stick it up on a wall and draw a line down the middle.

The mainstream US media, Iíve discovered, has the least reliable news out there. They might give mention of truth, but then they bury it with the government position and paid experts. It then all becomes a blur where the public mostly hears the falsehoods while never having the time to dig deeper for the real truth.

My greatest concern would be that we go soft on this side of the fence with reporting.

Why is Harper in hiding? An official complaint was filed by our media with the political body for Harpers refusal to meet with the media.
 
Jay
#21
I love the smell of paint in the morning.

 
elevennevele
#22
You see, this is what Iím partial talking about. You see images like the ones you posted and you get a warm fuzzy feeling.

The images of voters or purple fingers doesnít tell us much. Of course Afghans want a better life and if they think this is a way they will get it, they will of course participate. The reality of the political landscape is really the issue. If there is verified good, then we should talk about it and back it up with verifiable sources. If their is verified bad, then would should also have the courage to discuss that to. That is the only way we can all work towards the goals that befits everyone in an intelligent rather than emotional manner.

Symbolism is one thing but reality can be another.

An example of imagery is when George Bush made a televised speech about his economic plan at a St. Louis trucking company.

http://edition.cnn.com/2003/US/05/16/nyt.bumiller/

(except)
ďVolunteers for the White House covered "Made in China" stamps with white stickers on boxes arrayed on either side of the president. Behind Mr. Bush was a printed backdrop of faux boxes that read "Made in U.S.A.," the message the administration wanted to convey to the television audience.Ē

You know why they do this? Because people eat it all up. People toss out their critical thinking all the time to eat up the symbolism.
 
Jay
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by elevennevele

You see, this is what Iím partial talking about. You see images like the ones you posted and you get a warm fuzzy feeling.

No, I post that to counter the idiocy the left spouts all day.

The pictures of purple on 70% of Iraqi fingers says it all!
 
Colpy
Conservative
#24
Quote:

The media gave the US government a free ride without much criticism when it decided to invade Iraq. The world said that they didn't have much proof Saddam still had the weapons capacity. The inspectors didn't see the proof though they were always open minded to it.

Powellís case for invading Iraq was based on forged documents that were proven to be forged before he gave his speech to the UN. Note that there was the outing of a CIA agent as a way of punishing Wilson for challenging the administration on the matter

.

Interesting piece in the National Post yesterday titled "Saddam is the Liar".

Turns out the intelligence services of the United States, Great Britain, Germany, France, China, and Russia all were reasonably certain Saddam had WMDs.

Here's the kicker: Saddam's own General Staff thought he had secret stockpiles of WMD, with which they would destroy Bush's invading armies. Post war interrogation revealed their shock and despair when they discovered there were no "secret weapons" for them to turn on the Yanks. They weren't informed until shortly before the invasion, and were completely demoralized by the revelation.

The belief in WMDs was not a deception, it was a perfectly understandable mistake.

BIG difference.
 
Jay
#25
France even warned Saddam to NOT use WMD against the allies, as France said she would join in too.

Did they just say that for fun?
 
elevennevele
#26
Then you should show 70% of Iraqis in a picture with purple fingers. That would be a more honest picture to the statement you are making.

I hope the sentence isn't suggesting I'm left of politics. I'm just putting out what is verified. A hard right politician like Pat Buchanan is even making similar criticism on similar grounds when it comes to US politics.

Coining people with labels is counter productive to making a case. A commentary can stand on how value of the argument is presented regardless of who the speaker is. Attacking messengers personally is one of the lowest denominators in trying win support for one's position.

And I say this about Ďanyoneí who tries to make a case whether right or left of politics.
 
Jay
#27
I didn't say you were left, I said that is why I post the pics...not because of the warm fuzzy feelings they give people as you suggested.

Do you have a picture of 70% of Iraqis with there frick'n figures painted?

Did you really say anything in that post?
 
elevennevele
#28
You can always find a good quote from somebody somewhere. Even with someone in France thinking something. But the fact still is there was no WMD that were there to be used on US troops. No WMDs found, and the case was made by experts that they didn't see the evidence to support the invasion based on this premise.

The whole argument to the world and to the American people was that Iraq possessed WMD and were a threat because of it. That was the case made for war. That was the case made to the American people. Not spreading democracy, not removing a dictator. Those reasons popped up after when they failed to find the proof to back up their actual case for war.

That is the FACT. And that has shown itself to be the REALITY.

Whether Saddam is an honest person or a liar, or what different people think or like to believe at different times doesnít change anything. You donít go to war with a country because you think their leader is a liar or scum bag. You go to war because their is hard evidence to justify it. The hard evidence wasnít there, the doubts were their, the evidence proving against the wisdom for such an invasion was there. Powellís case for war was proven false before he gave the speech but he gave it anyway.

Again a fact with the reality shown to support it. Hey, I wish it werenít so. I wish I was making it all up, but Iím not the one making these discoveries.
 
elevennevele
#29
Post your sources Colpy so we all have a fair share of your statements.
 
DerekJay
#30
Quote: Originally Posted by elevennevele

The media gave the US government a free ride without much criticism when it decided to invade Iraq. The world said that they didn't have much proof Saddam still had the weapons capacity. The inspectors didn't see the proof though they were always open minded to it.

Powellís case for invading Iraq was based on forged documents that were proven to be forged before he gave his speech to the UN. Note that there was the outing of a CIA agent as a way of punishing Wilson for challenging the administration on the matter.

(Iíll even use well known US sources)
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/03/14/sprj.irq.documents/

(CIA outing)
http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...internalid=ACA

Moreover, much of the info Powell gave was old and dated. Did the media really take the US government to task? No.

A poll was also done asking people whether they believed there was a connection between Saddam and Al Qaeda. At the time most believed there was even though the connection was proven to be hardly the case. Saddam and Osama were actually rivals. Saddam, because of his tyranny, would never allow a militant group to operate within his country.

Did the news media work to really inform the public of their misconceptions? No. Even when Bush himself had to publicly state there was no connection to 911, through his administration continue to make references to 911 with regards to invading Iraq. Does the media take them to task on continually spreading misperceptions? No.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5223932/

The UN made a clear stance that the case for war wasnít strong. Old allies challenged the US on this. The US media however rather than question the validity of their arguments, created a poor impression of the rest of the world, the UN, and scapegoated France. Who was right in the end? Well now that hindsight is 20/20 I guess the rest of world but the information was there at the time to challenge the need for war. Did the media take the US government to task? No.

(Please note, Harper would have taken us into Iraq if he were leader at the time. He wrote an letter of apology to the US for Canadaís refusal to become involved.)

NBC is 80% owned by General Electric. I take interest in who owns what. I have to as I have a keen interest in the markets. So donít say Iím not into capitalism. I need to get my facts straight or I lose my ass if I just go along believing the taking heads or the corporate BS. General Electric makes missile switches. You tell me there isnít a conflict of interest.

http://www.cjr.org/tools/owners/ge.asp

I didnít look up the website originally posted for this forum so what Iím saying has nothing to do with it. The facts I mentioned however are out there.

The political decisions a country makes are my business to know because they do things to an economy which I have a keen interest in. So I have to know what is really going on regardless of the patriotic fuzzy feeling the media likes to reports. If somebody wants a more clearer picture than they have to read the news from all over the place, stick it up on a wall and draw a line down the middle.

The mainstream US media, Iíve discovered, has the least reliable news out there. They might give mention of truth, but then they bury it with the government position and paid experts. It then all becomes a blur where the public mostly hears the falsehoods while never having the time to dig deeper for the real truth.

My greatest concern would be that we go soft on this side of the fence with reporting.

Why is Harper in hiding? An official complaint was filed by our media with the political body for Harpers refusal to meet with the media.

Very good post. Interesting how so many people are living in denial. I think it's sad how millions of people are getting duped by this Bush Administration... year after year. I just hope that we as Canadians are strong (and smart) enough to see through the lies and bullshit, and make our own decisions without becoming a slave to this crimminal organization.
 

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